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A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.


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 No.8898[Reply]

Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.

Old thread >>6255
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 No.9183

>>9180
>Like what do you mean by no romance?
I guess I should've said, "without romance as the primary focus or end goal." When I made the post, I was thinking of VNs like Ace Attorney, 999, The Silver Case, Higurashi, etc. but through the perspective of a female character. For example, in 999, even though the protagonist has romantic feelings for one of the other characters, the routes are entirely based on the mystery. All of the endings you get are based on the choices you make regarding the plot itself, not his romance with the girl. And ultimately, his romantic feelings are even used to further the plot instead of the other way around. I've found that a lot of otome games with an interesting premise completely sideline that premise in favor of all the romances, and it gets tiring for me. I'd just like to see more non-otome VNs with female protagonists and a stronger plot. A couple do exist, but they're pretty rare.

 No.9189

>joining like one new discord per year despite hating discord but really having an urge to talk about my favorite shit
>fujo discord about my current favorite ship is dead because I didn't retweet admin's ugly genderbending fanart and disagreed with another person once
>old other fujo(!) discord I used for ages chimped out after I said I preferred anime with male MCs because that's extremely misogynist and apparently explaining that a lot of anime are sadly aimed at coomers is racist too even though I was talking about men in general
>> now said discord is dead too because everybody refuses to talk in front of toxic people like me
All I want is talking about dudes why is that so hard? Hell the latter discord was semi-dead before, but the SECOND I reveal that I prefer sausage fests they all leave their holes to attack me with tired strawman shenanigans.

Saying that I don't hated women, just how women were often written (i.e. as coomer bait, fanservice lesbians or token "the woman") doesn't make it less misogynist for some reason. ALL of the users are allegedly lesbians too so what I suspect is that they're just the very coomers I talked about because all they need to praise an anime as the best shit ever are two underaged feMCs.

It genuinely makes me wonder how many of these people are actually male trans dudes because these people love to whiteknight and scream about being super lesbian.

 No.9193

>>9189
>It genuinely makes me wonder how many of these people are actually male trans dudes because these people love to whiteknight and scream about being super lesbian.
In my experience, every "lesbian" I encountered who wouldn't shut up about it and was anti male character was actually a dude.



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 No.4907[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post shit in BL that you hate.

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 No.9190

>>9177
I never understood people like that. I project into cool super strong male heroes when I like them because I have fun imagining being like them for being cool. I don't think I was the only girl who desire to be like Skeletor or He-Man as a kid (ignore the gender, I am more likely to measure characters by coolness and designs so I can do both).

I cannot imagine being unable to selfinsert into any character that doesn't look like me.

That said yeah, a lot of male doujinshi fan relates to tentacle monsters and orcs. I also feel like men in general never ship side characters. They either want the MC to win their favorite girl or they want goblin rape doujinshi with her. I have never once seen a dude being fan of a ship that excludes the MC.

 No.9191

>>9190
Interesting you mention childhood since I don't think I liked male characters until maybe middle school. For instance Velma used to be my favorite Scooby Doo character as a kid because I wore glasses and was a tomboy so Daphne was too "girly." Now that mindset is so juvnile to me even though she's still the better character :p, now I think Shaggy is the best because he's moe and as an adult that how I gauge characters not so much as to how similar theyvare to me.

 No.9192

I don't outright hate ABO but I think fanfics would be hotter without the pre-established dynamics and ABO society and whatnot. What's the in-universe justification for women existing in ABO if omega men can get pregnant?



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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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this thread got me into a rabbit hole. i can see why the fujo ancestors loved this series

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 No.9187

Where can I read old doujin scans online? Raws are fine. This thread makes me wanna get back into Saint Seiya and other IP



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as a counterpart to the hate thread. sperg about things you love.
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 No.9152

Cocky boy with a superiority complex gets fucked by guy he looks down on

 No.9159

I thought this was pretty cute, haven't seen it posted anywhere

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Black hair x white hair combo is peak, was peak, and will continue to be peak. Though 9 times out of 10 these pairings end up falling into the 'born to BL, forced to shounen' category.



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 No.4016[Reply]

I would like to watch some Gundam with nonas, using a service such as Cytube.

I'm open to scheduling it as a 'few episodes a week', or 'A bunch of episodes in bulk'. Both are good.

My timezone is Berlin time, GMT +1.

Nonas can let me know which Gundam they'd like to watch. I'm fine with anything that has cute boys. My personal wish is Zeta Gundam, but I'm also fine watching another timeline or repeating the 0079 series (Albeit perhaps with dub or something to shake it up).
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 No.8687

>>8641
Congrats on starting college nonna!

I prefer here personally the site you were using last time worked well.

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Hearing Amuro's voice upon rewatch feels so weird after the Furuya scandal.

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The G-Cucks anime was…disappointing… Good fanart though.



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 No.3664[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The sentence "If you'd replace one or two of the main leads with women, nothing changes" made me wonder if Yoai or Bl can benefit from a bit of realism. I'm on camp neutral, personally. I don't mind some reality in my m/m smut, but one of the reasons I like BL and Joseimuke is the decoupling expectations.
Men in these stories are borne under an idealized version women yearned for but never got because society at large forces men to be something they're not, and they all believe it. Buying into lies has caused men to double down on their misogyny over the years, harming both women, children, and themselves. And when they do reach that truth, they either blot it out or troon it out. Men can never learn, so I've relegated myself to BL, as stupid as it sounds. I feel I have the most control when reality proves disappointing. 
(btw, is this best place to post? /ot/ seemed promising but I choose /ffs/ instead. Made the most sense and honestly, I just wanna screech about pet theories. Please don't clown on me lol)
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 No.9109

>>3664
Honestly, I don't think men in BL can be compared to either irl women or irl gay men, they're like their own thing imo.
I do have one pet peeve when it comes to japanese BL though, and it's when they try to keep the seme essentially straight if you ignore his attraction to the uke. Things like him only having ex-gfs, trying to make the uke jealous by interacting with female characters, comparing the uke to a woman during sex, etc. I think most people will know what I mean. It wouldn't hurt to have a bit more realism when it comes to this in particular and I genuinely don't understand why some authors do it in the first place.

 No.9117

>>9095
Reminds me that people have said Conclave is written "in a female style" because the MC's internal mental state is constantly described throughout, and all the old Catholic men touch hands and kiss foreheads. It's easier to ship and be silly over, but it's not like the author suddenly transitioned.

 No.9175

>>9109
>comparing the uke to a woman during sex
fuck i hate too, shit like "you have hips like a woman" or "you moan like a woman" it just ruins it for me



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 No.79[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Old or new, post any stupid yaoi memes you got
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 No.9179

>>9174
this was a tumblr post word-for-word i’m pretty sure



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 No.8865[Reply]

Previous thread:
>>8357

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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 No.9162

>>9161
>playing the bottom in the Cherry Magic drama
Brainfart moment

 No.9163

>>9160
It's probably one or both of those. To my understanding you have less of a footprint on incognito tabs so it's throwing you the lowest common denominator content. If you are on kink tags that skew het it has simply mistaken you as a hetfag, especially if they have overlap with romantasy fandoms.

 No.9164

>>9146
Can't these people enjoy stories with characters that they don't self insert as? This is probably the reason why they break down so easily when people don't like their content, it feels personal to them because obviously they are projecting into the characters.



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 No.5554[Reply]

How did you become a fujoshi?

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 No.9142

sooo- I was like nine years old and I had just finished Death Note, searching for memes and stuffI found that a lot of images mencioned the word YAOI and I just googled it to find out what it meant- one thing led to another and SENSITIVE PORNOGRAPH appared in in front of me in the form of some NSFW gifs- At first I had some questions, but then I just went with the vibe LOL

 No.9143

If I remember correctly, Gravitation was my introduction to both yaoi as a genre and manga as a medium.

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>>7719
I was a couple of years younger and Saint Seiya was probably one of my first, too. My favorite was Ikki and I paired him with Shun,it was beautiful. It didn't help that Ikki got some short lived love interest (hated her) that the first thing to come out of his mouth was that he thought she was Shun!

But I think officially my first exposure to m/m was a Dragonball fanfic where Goku and Vegeta got together and then that was it,I didn't look back at hetero romance until my mid 30s for a brief period and now I'm back home.



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