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adminjo 01/17/22 (Mon) 09:28:42 No.1[Reply]

A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.

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Anti fujo cringe 2 Anonymous 09/19/24 (Thu) 12:14:27 No.4731 [Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.
Old thread >>89

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Anonymous 11/21/24 (Thu) 06:24:50 No.5678

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>>5672
>The difference between yuri and yaoi regarding representation is that we usually only get it and designated BL series, whereas yuri happens surprisingly and casually in mainstream shows centered on action, drama or sci-fi.

and when we do get canon yaoi they look like this

Anonymous 11/21/24 (Thu) 06:53:23 No.5679

>>5678
My conspiracy theory is this is a direct response to Fordcest and Billdip shippers.

Anonymous 11/21/24 (Thu) 07:04:28 No.5680

>>5672
>>5678
I also think a big difference is when f/f is canon it's stuff people were already shipping with main characters (PB/Marcy, Catadora) whereas canon m/m in mainstream media is *NEVER* the most popular m/m ship.

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Self-Insertion and its consequences Anonymous 11/18/24 (Mon) 07:14:21 No.5538 [Reply]

Self-inserting has always been a thing, however, more than ever has it not taken in an almost parasitic and viral infestation in general fandom and the BL scene.

Whether it's the need to make gay ships het by adding a vagina/transing, or blatantly stating they see non-insert ships as cucking, let's talk about self-inserting and how bad it's gotten.

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Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 20:08:54 No.5649

>>5605
I think actual self-inserters are what people call kinners nowadays. They are very different from your typical otaku let alone fujos.
Self-inserting is different from being viewing the top/MC as blank state who only exists to fuck a character. This is how men usually watch media I think. They rarely self-insert, it's more about the MC being a tool that they want to see marrying the girl. They don't care about the dude, they want to see the girl becoming a waifu similar to how "solo"-fujos just want the character to get fucked.

Both is okay I think. The actual self-inserting is KINNING and you usually find these people on tumblr and instagram and they are often the most annoying fans you will ever meet.

Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 20:43:51 No.5654

>>5605
>The more I read this thread the more I think I really don't have any experience with self inserters in fandom.
It may just be the type of fandom you're in. You also may have a more discerning eye when it comes to fanfiction lol. It's deeply irritating to see fic writers turn a developed character into an in-universe version of themselves, but I'm sure it's less common in fandoms that skew older or have more mature members.

Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 21:01:03 No.5658

>>5654
I will never forget that self-inserting Mass Effect crazy that pretended to be Sparatus (some turian ambassador of the galatic council or whatever they fuck they were called) and got her mind broken when part 2 had a scene where rumor claimed that this character had cheated on his wife.

It wasn't even relevant, it was just some funny gossip. But that person (a TIF) was so obsessed with that alien dude that she wrote novel-length fics of his farm house and uncle from the military that were just literal autobiographic details of her own life. The game character didn't have an uncle or anything and was certainly not from a farm of whatever US state that person was from obsessed over (I can't even name more than four states, take that America).

I talked to her at first since we both liked aliens but it was cringe witnessing all of that. She even forced a matriarch grandma in that was a clone of her own one and turned the game wife (that was never shown) into a tradwife and the guy into a tard that loves her unconditionally so the reveal broke her. Instead of ignoring it she turned into a broken record making the same posts stating that canon isn't canon over and over again lmao

THIS is what a self-inserter is. Her character bore no resemblances to the canon guy anymore, she literally turned him into herself including her environment (even the fucking dog)

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Fujo Venting 2 11/04/24 (Mon) 00:02:50 No.5288 [Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.

Previous Thread
>>861

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Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 20:13:48 No.5650

>>5609
This is insane. I don't get how anyone could ever become like that.

Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 20:29:48 No.5652

>>5650
Me neither. She drew a lot so it's not like she was just pretending to like it because it was trendy.
For me love is all about nuances. You could have talked to me about my favs that I am obsessed with before I engaged with their story and I wouldn't have cared until I see it with my own eyes. It's all about dialogues, gestures and the behavior and none of this will be mentioned in wikias or youtube opinions.

I recently had an argument with a fan who claimed reading the wikias of an episode/issue was enough. No? This isn't a story it's a summary. How can people not discern between factual summaries and experience? Does a war you experience feel the same as reading about it as rich first world kid? No it isn't. But this is how stupid they sound.

I have a personal beef with these fans tbh lol because some of my favorite ships are unpopular for the sole reason because people refuse to read the canon. They don't have much screentime so all of the gay content and cool shit about them comes from nuances and short scenes that aren't important enough to make it into wikias.

Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 20:58:08 No.5656

>>5652
>all of the gay content and cool shit about them comes from nuances and short scenes that aren't important enough to make it into wikias.
OMG HEAVILY THIS!! I have a rarepair that gets ridiculed for being a really "random" pairing, and while they've only met once or twice in canon, they have extremely similar narratives where one ended up doing good because of his tragic past while the other turned to a life of crime to avenge it.
This is easily overlooked because one character is considered comic relief, and both characters are used as props to ship the more conventionally attractive and popular character that most fans are aware of because of fanart/edits.
I try to give the latter shipss some grace but its just…. you can clearly tell "fans" are only making ship content of it because one is the safe wholesome adult character ship whereas the other is the daddy dom problematic ship. either way both only exist to "look good" and dont have a deeper narrative besides filling a trope.

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Fandom and Industry Trends, Analysis and Observations Anonymous 01/17/24 (Wed) 04:44:49 No.3208 [Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 17:15:53 No.5630

>>5628
Holy shit that's useful I didn't know that. Thank you.
I see a lot of fans from my fandom announcing doujins for that 29/01/25 event. They're not on tora yet but will probably appear sooner or later since most are selling them there.

Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 20:26:34 No.5651

>>5630
what kind of fandom? because i can't find any event at that date.
anyway there is also this site that can be used to check out doujinshi events
>https://shimeken.com/events

Anonymous 11/20/24 (Wed) 20:38:02 No.5653

>>5651
Sorry I am retarded and misremembered. It's 01/26, not 29. TOKYO FES.
https://akaboo.jp/event/item/ca198.html

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Stupid yaoi memes Anonymous 01/30/22 (Sun) 07:32:17 No.79 [Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Old or new, post any stupid yaoi memes you got

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Anonymous 11/19/24 (Tue) 17:53:39 No.5612

>>5607
Chanel vs Walmart

Anonymous 11/19/24 (Tue) 18:51:18 No.5613

>>5607
The bigger guy looks like dumpy America from Hetalia kek

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Fujoshi origin story thread #2 Anonymous 11/18/24 (Mon) 15:46:08 No.5554 [Reply]

How did you become a fujoshi?

Last thread: https://fujochan.org/bl/res/102.html

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Anonymous 11/19/24 (Tue) 02:16:50 No.5603

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>>5554
Good question. I try:
>Lv 1):
Maybe it's bc I am/was a loner and silent but I preferred male characters when I was small. I remember that when I was 4-5 years old Bigwig and Woundwort from Watership Down became the first characters I ever obsessed over. This might or might not have to do with my later fujoism but I mention it because it shows a lot of early signs.

I related to Bigwig to some degree because he was the loner within the group and also silent like me but at the same time a true fighter, so I also looked up to him and hoped to be as cool as him one day. Parallel to that though I also loved Woundwort who is the brutal enemy that fights and almost kills him.

I wonder if this was already very early, subconscious enemy/hero shipping. It was also what made me an artist. I drew them so much I legit learned how to animate by accident when I traced frame after frame of certain scenes from my tv and realised how flicker books work.

>Lv 2):
Anyway, after that, when I was 7-8 I had my first cartoon crushes that I recognized as such. I felt very perverted for it lol

>Lv 3):
Next stage of evolution: I am 13 and have a crush on Frieza. This was the first time that I headcanoned shit for a character and drew that instead of drawing just the character himself. Because I loved him so much I searched for fanart on all angelfire fanshrines I found and one beautiful day I stumbled upon a very pretty doujinshi in which Frieza was hinted to have had sex with Zarbon. I was puzzled but also fascinated. It changed something but I wasn't ready to accept it yet.

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Anonymous 11/19/24 (Tue) 12:44:32 No.5608

I think it was Gravitation? Back then you didn't get a choice of what was available through pirated CDs and people watched whatever they could get hands on. I was sceptical at first, but really loved it right from the first episode!

>>5603
Getting into BL through Dragon Ball is not that unusual, but it's typically involving the main cast (or the main cast x adversary). You're the first one I found whose first exposure was Frieza x (let's be frank) a nobody most people who watched DB would have a difficulty remembering the name of.

Anonymous 11/19/24 (Tue) 16:28:07 No.5611

I got into anime and manga by the mid-00s and obviously Inuyasha, FMA and later Death Note and Code Geass yaoi was all over the net. I was a little weirded out at first but then I was a fujo within three years of learning about anime. I didn't even know how buttsex worked for a while but I felt my way around.

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Shipping based on attractiveness vs character dynamics Anonymous 09/11/24 (Wed) 22:15:20 No.4596 [Reply]

Right now, ship wars for gay paring are much less common than in the past, but I notice one divide that still exists, a popular ship based on which male leads are the most conventionally attractive will usually be at odds with another ship, based on actual character development, an example I grew up with was Beyblade where the two most shipped characters were Kai and Rei, despite not having much interaction because they looked the most attractive. The most famous example of this would be One Piece, where Zosan remains the most popular for the same reason
I can see both sides of the arguments, but personally I support shipping based on what people find attractive in the first place

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Anonymous 11/11/24 (Mon) 23:18:02 No.5425

>>5407
I don't hate Souda but so many people have this opinion it's pretty funny.

>What a cool design
>Dudebro personality

Lol

Anonymous 11/12/24 (Tue) 00:02:11 No.5429

>>5425
He could have been chill or a fun yankee but he was a comedic relief simp instead… I will say that I found his backstory kind of interesting though, I remember filling out his free time events and him being an annoying scamp and then suddenly hitting me with crazy shit about how he actually looks bland and his dad beats him

Anonymous 11/18/24 (Mon) 06:23:00 No.5537

Both would be the best, but I care about the characters being interesting more, for me personally the characters being engaging on their own is more important than interactions, especially if most of the interactions are cookie-cutter, if they don't have an interesting story or origin even, I am not really going to be into them.
My favorite dynamic is antagonist/antihero/antagonist with redemption arc with hero, and often thankfully the nemesis gets a great design, even better than the mains.

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Watch Gundam with me Anonymous 06/11/24 (Tue) 10:08:11 No.4016 [Reply]

I would like to watch some Gundam with nonas, using a service such as Cytube.

I'm open to scheduling it as a 'few episodes a week', or 'A bunch of episodes in bulk'. Both are good.

My timezone is Berlin time, GMT +1.

Nonas can let me know which Gundam they'd like to watch. I'm fine with anything that has cute boys. My personal wish is Zeta Gundam, but I'm also fine watching another timeline or repeating the 0079 series (Albeit perhaps with dub or something to shake it up).

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Anonymous 11/15/24 (Fri) 14:10:29 No.5487

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What Garma clones are there in Gundam other than Gaelio?

Anonymous 11/15/24 (Fri) 20:16:30 No.5490

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>>5487
There's Noin. She's female though… and in love with the Char expy

(Mods can delete this if it's against the rules)

Anonymous 11/17/24 (Sun) 19:34:15 No.5520

>>5490
I forgot about her (since she doesn't die/have a fake death or gets betrayed).

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Shit You Hate #2 Anonymous 10/14/24 (Mon) 04:16:13 No.4907 [Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post shit in BL that you hate.

Previous >>2

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Anonymous 11/17/24 (Sun) 02:44:49 No.5507

>>5485
>>5506
Since we're talking about this, a big issue I have with fics that isn't mentioned yet is the formatting. Especially common are fics with one or even two blank lines after every sentence. It looks bad and is surprisingly annoying to read and tbh I usually dip out when I see it without even reading it.
Opposite extreme are block texts. A rarer but just as annoying issue I have encountered are texts that are divided into paragraphs of the exact same length. The content of the story doesn't even match them, so you have lines thrown together that should be separated by an empty line and single scenes being cut off midways. It's weird as fuck.

It shouldn't be hard I am not expecting some professional book formatting, just nothing obviously weird and distracting.

Anonymous 11/17/24 (Sun) 03:04:00 No.5508

>>5507
This! I dont even mind nor care if it doesnt follow proper spacing structure, I just need the fic to be cohesive yet structured apart so im not just looking at a wall of text but not too far apart im reading a text fic.

Anonymous 11/17/24 (Sun) 06:03:51 No.5510

>>5507
People who feel the need to put a new line after every sentence are typically using a narrow window where the input box makes their single sentence appear to be more than one line long. The most common factor in making it narrow is using a smart phone in portrait. Really makes you think.

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