/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

I have such a love/hate relationship with what has been deemed 'dead dove' or dead dove spaces. What is considered proship/dead dove space in theory should be what old fujoism used to be, shipping without caring whether something was immortal or not, just…simply shipping? People who shipped the Ed brothers or the hitachiins didn't need to throw an essay about how they were raped by their brother as a child and how they're projecting their trauma into the ship now leave them alone. You just shipped them because brothers hawt and that was it.
Now almost every space that is for a standard fujo, a proship/dead dove space is:
- Full of gender politics, for some reason? Less shipping, less how shipping dadson shota rape actually helps victims overcome trauma and how it's very revolutionary feminist core
- Horny people 24/7 in such a moidy way that it becomes offputting. Imagine the obnoxiousness of cunnyfags on 4chan but 20x with somehow even more creep vibes than it should. Mind you, I like shota rape incest age gaps whatever else but I don't go "It'd be so fun if this character was such a pedo rapist ♥ I love when my fav is a PEDOPHILE!!!" that is said so unironically
- Basically no media literacy and no real interest for actually wanting to *care* about the ships. This is just a petpeeve of mine but if I like a ship it's because I like the characters and want to discuss shit, I don't wanna hear how you forgot your T-shot today or if you wonder if Character X would get their T-shot. I don't care to listen about your trauma through a ship, I'm not gonna play therapist for you when I want these characters to fuck without thinking that I'm enabling someone's 'coping mechanism'.
I just wanna ship shit, be a weirdo maybe but not have "I LOVE CHILD RAPE!!!" as a badge of honor

>>7609
I think there are a few reasons for western art usually looking different even when it is anime-esque.
>Disney and cartoon influence
>Wanting your own unique style instead of copying anime 100%.
>Japanese people grow up with manga clubs in school, they learn the real techniques for making manga look like manga and they practice by copying art they like. Most western artists don't have this background. The colouring, rendering and linework style used by western artists on a pro level is usually really different. Meanwhile more amateur ones like to do that low contrast soupy brown/red palette. Even Korean and Chinese manhwa/manhua style usually looks different from Japanese because the techniques learned and aesthetic culture are different.
>Homestuck fandom popularized the trend of racebending, making characters fat etc because the characters were 'aracial' and blank canvases (despite the fact that you can see nobody is fat or has textured hair). Then it trickled down and became the norm.

I understand wanting a unique style because I don't want to completely copy anime either, but anime also has a very wide variety of styles. For example, I don't like thin lines and thin lines are very common - but there are manga styles with thick lines too.

>>7629
THIS, all of this especially the second point. I thought I was the only one who noticed how weirdly offputting so-called "profic" spaces had become. I want to have a generally "normal" fandom experience but it's like anyone who self-IDs as "problematic" wants to be as edgy and off-putting as possible. I like my shota incest ships too but is it too much to ask people to treat them like they would vanilla ships? With regular discussions, fanarts, fics and without feeling like everyone's trying to outedge each other? The hornyposting is the worst too. It really does feel like they're trying to imitate lolicons for some reason.
>tfw you're too normal for the freaks and too freaky for the normals

>>7597
Reading this made me realize how my baby boomer father felt when I wouldn't shut the fuck up about Pokemon as a little kid in 2000.

>>7624
I didn't even know you could write sentences on titcock. I never had any interest in that site and the fact that everything has to be video based is so fucking stupid IMO.
It reminds me of instasgram where people post crappy images with fat white font on black background to make a textposts instead of just using a place that allows text to post their thoughts.

>>7627
So you hate youtube then?

I love violence. I loved the first volume of Sneaky Red. I want to draw men getting beat on and crying and hurt. Reading about it turns me on so bad, and I love the way the author of that draws the bruises just right. I wish she would do more manga on the same subject, but oh well haha

Overpowered monster x human or the other way around has always been my fetish but I just saw this screencap going around and hnnngg

>>7611
Same nonna same king kong and the ang lee hulk movie changed me as a kid

>>7602
I hate CEO AU’s too, but this particular fandom has a few characters that own businesses.

>>7602
I have legit never seen a CEO AU so far. Sounds better than mermaid, genderbend or coffee shop AUs but that might be because I think of Fukumoto series when I think of CEOs.

>>7607
I only ever see it when one character is already designated as the school "rich kid" it's basically just an aged up AU from my experiences, though like the other nonnas said it's usually written by people with no life experience and comically unrealistic.

>>7379
I really can't like any Hoyo ships, even the super praised yaoi like the ship in that picture. They're all so boring to me, it feels like they want to hit the popular tropes but the game can't really give them the time to show why they're interesting. It's fine for fandom, people making something good out of a mid canon is what fandom is all about. But in canon I don't care about any of these ships including this Sumeru yaoi that gets such praise. My problem with all their ships is only one character feels fleshed out and the other one is just there and they're only shipped because the fandom treats it as "canon". I have a hard time being interested in a ship when only one character has some development and the other has no purpose outside the ship.

These people pretending to be nerds are always so funny, because you can spot them instantly by asking a few questions. I am into a series where the main character starts off as a huge asshole from the early acts to midway, but the fandom portrays her as a mindless generic bubbly girl, and I hate it. They ruined her for mass appeal

R/AO3 can be a little obnoxious at times but I do like threads like these:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1itksra/any_scene_in_a_fic_or_popular_characterization_in/
Because I can get a glimpse of the state of things in fandoms I otherwise would never have glanced at. It's pretty fascinating to look through. Especially the ones like picrel where they go on about a specific incarnation of a character that ultimately lead to a sort of spiral downward.

>>7592
No really, that's a super common sentiment among them, especially radblr. I remember that one middle aged radfem who even made a fucking video about the topic.
>They're probably the ones that certainly shlicking to yume art kek.
Oh, you bet. The Lolcow radfem variety in particular absolutely hates fujos and has multiple threads dedicated to complaining about how fujos are misogynists cucked into trooning out for frying their brains with gay porn while they themselves goon to Otome Game #453435 and its abusive main love interest Rapey McCageman.

>>7579
>Yeah, think about all the obscene moid coomery hailing from China with its numerous gacha games that are straight up porn made for men yet they always go unpunished
tbf a Chinese porn artist (gore, child rape) was sent to a literal labor camp for the next 10 years of his life, and the entire Chinese internet celebrated it

>>7603
Yeah men have to draw mauled children being raped in order to be punished while women can just draw two normal men kissing and get their asses detained.

>>7575
she's literally me fr

>>7552
Since you posted Zelos, I really love Zelos.

He's visually very girly. Long hair, pink and is very cute at a glance. But his character is so rich in trauma and shipping fuel he's been at the top of my tales of shipping charts since I played. Symphonia OVA really made him shine in the fight between he and Regal. And I know if the game was released within the last 4 years as a new title, he'd be transwashed the most.

>>7555
NTAYRT but I also love Zelos, he's probably one of my favourite characters ever. His character is so well written and I seriously hate how the fandom flanderized him into just a dumb playboy when he's drenched in tragedy and trauma.

>>7553
I stg these people overanalyze gender more than people from the 50's.
>this physically weak male character is TRANS and ill say he needs to get pregnant 200x a week while suggesting he's very submissive, GET IT? isn't that so gender?!
it's not that deep stfu aiden
>>7555
AYRT symphonia is such a comfy game with a rich world and characters. I'm very glad I played it. Zelos was so funny and well-written and made me smile throughout my playthrough. I also loved Lloyd and Genius and Colette and Rain and entire cast really. The aesthetics and character designs were on-point.

>>7389
Soriku is a yaoi staple anon, it will find you. soon.

>>7382
>>7385
Okay but Sora is generally agreed to be uke right?

>>7425
Yes, I’m not even a kingdom hearts fan and I know that.