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A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.

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 No.541[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Aydens are currently the biggest internal cancer in BL spaces, outsiders hate us that's a given but Aydens participate and "contribute" to our fandoms, with pussyboys, male characters with mastectomy scars and PIV sex between characters that are biological males and ruin it
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 No.6847

>>6832
>we're just as male as any other gay guy
Reminds me of that one pasta image of a tranny going to a gay bear party and nobody wanting to fuck her kek

 No.6849

>>6841
Isn't it because they're fetishizing transness and making a thing out of being kawaii soft pink uwu gay boys?

 No.6850

>>6847
That sounds incredibly funny. Honestly it's the best when they fight amongst each other because what will they do? Call each other bigots for not wanting to touch someone outside their orientation?


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 No.6255[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.

Old thread >>4731
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 No.6845

>>6844
It's not like interesting men are never ruined by a romantic plot, either. Any character with motivations teased as complex, but especially villains or antiheroes, almost always fall flat when it turns out they're doing everything because of their dead love interest.
And for fujos, if your ship is nuked irreparably by het then you'll probably cut your losses and move on.
I've never seen FranXX but that's definitely a waste of a good design.

 No.6846

>>6845
Yeah this is why I usually prefer non-canon yaoi and rather have pandering and hinting. Most people are not only bad at writing romance, the romance will almost always turn into the central aspect of the characters in love and turn them to shit. Especially if they act all lovey dovey afterwards and forget all of their earlier motivations.

 No.6848

>>6837
There are fans who love analyzing interesting female characters and those who love 'evil' or not morally perfect female characters that are there to babysit the boys like 999% of the time.
The thing is fandom is inherently selfish, so if there is a female character that is romantically paired with boy mc she will be self inserted as, and treated as perfect.
Notice this never happens in fandoms where there is no romance or shipping at all.


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 No.79[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Old or new, post any stupid yaoi memes you got
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 No.13[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

as a counterpart to the hate thread. sperg about things you love.
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 No.6816

>>6811
Sideburns are so, so hot, shame they aren't more popular.
>Zenigata/Lupin
Great taste

 No.6823

>>6811
I feel you. I love sideburns, goatees and/or thick eyebrows for the same reason but they're criminally rare. Mature faces are inherently tied to sexual attraction for me so their presence or absence largely determines whether I get into a character or not.

I would also say that broader mouths are part of it. It's a trait Lupin shares as well. Image your pic but with the classic small "-" mouth and he leaves a whole different impression. Some of these traits help making faces more expressive and expressiveness is another essential part of character design IMO.

 No.6824

>>6823
I didn't think about that broad mouth point but you're right it is definitely a component of likable character. Not totally cartoon-y but large enough for a toothy grin.


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 No.2521[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Discuss the current state of modern fandoms with the anti/pro discourse.
>What is pro/anti discourse?
Pro and anti refers to two stands in current fandom culture of what is acceptable or not to show in fiction. Anti is someone who is against anything that can be considered problematic (incest, age gaps, abuse,etc) and pro is someone who is in favour of anything problematic. But the labels can usually be something bigger, like discourse with headcanons, whitewashing, etc etc… The problematic things are just the more common ones.
>Where do these discourses usually take place?
Usually on places like Twitter, Tumblr and Ao3, but they can also be seen in other places like Discord servers, TikTok and so on.
>Are there any reads about this?
Here's a few, feel free to post more that you find!
https://note.com/orangiah/n/n437e262ce2ce (Japanese artist explaining the whole anti/pro thing)
https://www.themarysue.com/fandom-has-a-purity-culture-problem/ (general article talking of purity culture in fandom spaces)
https://www.cbr.com/cartoon-fandom-has-a-puritanism-problem/ (article about puritanism as well as a debunk in another article saying children's media has a porn problem)

Last thread
https://archive.is/9WPtF
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>>6810
Actually Transformers lel but I guess that issue applies to all of them

 No.6819

>>6817
It's funny, when I read war criminal I knew, as a TF fan, you meant TF.

Skybound run makes it obvious but unless you read the comics, the cartoons don't really put any context to the insanity of the entire crew on either side. I mean, there's a whole episode of Arcee going into shock as she has Cliffjumper PTSD and Shockwave's outright terrifying. But the show downplays a lot of how actually awful the Decepticons are. The Autobots are far from innocent themselves but no one sees Bee as someone so efficient at his job that the leader of the enemy faction personally fucked him up to make a point.

I watched the Opbee discourse go down on twitter and it's insane to me how anyone would view Bee, especially Prime Bee as OP's son. Animated had the Human Error episodes which made him a kid, for some reason, but aside from that- I can't think of any continuity in which he's specifically supposed to be a child. Much less seeing OP as a parent since their species don't have concepts like mom or dad.

Starscream calls the scaplets he creates his children in cyberverse but that's all I can think of.

 No.6820

>>6819
This is so funny to me. Well, maybe it's because the comics (especially IDW) explicitly thematize ideologies, war crimes and the trauma the crimes have caused. The political speeches make the rest very obvious. Or the inability of the criminals to resocialize after the war has ended. In MtmtE you even have Megatron turning into the protag. I actually like it that someone had the guts to do redeem the villain and make you sympathize with him while simultaneously clarifying that he was indeed a fascist and genocider. Despite being an MC he even gets executed for it at the very end, so it's not like his crimes were forgiven.

It's crazy seeing some fans calling ships dangerous for a series that makes clear that almost everybody is fucked up beyond belief and if they weren't psychos (from the start) then the war eventually broke them and made them mentally ill anyway.

The best I have seen were discourses about Tarn/Overlord shipping. Not sure if you read it, but those two are easily some of the worst (albeit sexy) characters that exist. They are both mass murdering sadists and both are yandere homo for the same person (Megatron), of course are fans shipping them!

>Bee as OP's son
I hate hate that stuff as well and it happens in a lot of series. Everytime two adults have some vaguely brotherly- or mentor/protegee-like interaction someone out there headcanons them as brothers, respectively father and son and condemns shipping because of incest.


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 No.5288[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.

Previous Thread
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 No.6825

>>6822
I rarely ever experienced the deletion but what's up with the temporary locking most of them are doing? I follow all the artists so I still see what they post and don't bother, but none of them ever explain WHY they lock their account and it never lasts long. Few days or at best few weeks later they unlock it again. What causes this mystery?
>without wondering if the tweet will still be there tomorrow
Why wouldn't you save everything you like? If it's not important enough to save it's not important enough to be searched for on twitter and it's harder to do than to just open the fanart folder for that series anyway.

 No.6826

>>6822
i’ll never understand this either. sometimes i feel genuine sadness over how much art ends up lost this way, and i end up neurotically hoarding any and all art that i like even a little bit. this is always why i’m biased towards artists who also post logs of their stuff on pixiv (which is by no means immune to deletion, but at the very least it’s a lot more convenient to save everything there than on twitter imo).

 No.6830

guys im so sad i cant read any fics of my otp because everything that gets upload is written by tifs trooning out one of the characters. real fujos are disappearing it seems rip


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 No.4266[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread for ships that often get brought up as 'super gay' or are at least popular that you never got the vibe for, doesn't even have to be ships you dislike just ones that you never really got.

Starting off
>Only scene I thought was fujo was the rain scene with the foot polishing
>And it's not even in the manga
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 No.6756

>>6752
Thanks for the run-down nonna, I'm shocked Derek isn't the MC since looking from the outside at the fandom that's the impression. I've gotten. Judging from just the arctypes you've listed it seems like Scott/Derek would have been my guess to be most popular though of course actors
>they teased the hell out of Derek x Stiles at cons and on social media, which ended up pissing off a lot of fans when Derek x Stiles didn’t happen.
Of fucking course, one day TV fans will stopping falling for this, but i wonder if that contributed to the kegacy as people would write post-canon fix its out of spite.

 No.6757

>>6752
I know the Voltron comparison is in regards to con teasing, but the difference between the two series is pretty funny in how TW freely baited Stiles, an adult/minor ship, while Voltron fans assblasted Shiro's VA for years for not denouncing Sheith.

 No.6767

>>6756
>I'm shocked Derek isn't the MC since looking from the outside at the fandom that's the impression
I also didn’t think Scott was the MC from seeing the fanfics I would come across while searching specific tags on ao3, I thought Stiles was the MC before watching. He’s the fandom bicycle from what I can tell. I feel like it’s kinda rare for a male main character to not be the fandom bicycle and even rarer for him to not even be in the top three most popular slash ships. (Those go to Derek x Stiles, Peter x Stiles, and Liam x Theo).
>I wonder if that contributed to the legacy as people would write post-canon fix its out of spite
Oh there’s a lot of fix-it and Canon Divergence fics and I imagine the movie from a few years ago spawned a bunch. From what I know, Derek dies in it.

>>6757
It’s absolutely interesting to see older live action TV shows where the fandom was super chill about shipping adult/minor ships. Like Buffy, Smallville, and Teen Wolf all have adult/minor ships as their most popular ones. I guess it helps that the actors are usually older than the characters they portray, but I can’t imagine some of this stuff sliding in modern fandom spaces even with older actors.


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Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>6698
I'm not saying that's what they are like in canon, but that's how a section of shippers perceive them and If you go through the #obikin tag, a good chunk of the posts will be related to turning obi-wan into a "milf"

 No.6720

>>6718
Never post boobi-wan kanobi again please.

 No.6721

>>6720
lol, great name.

>>6718
Absolutely bizarre fan perception. I don't mind huge pecs like the last one, but the moobs are bit much.


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 No.3972[Reply]

For discussing networking and general observation on places like tumblr, twitter, bobaboard, etc.

>How is the current fandom climate on your platform?
>Tips for surviving the platform and making network with other fujos?
>Current feelings on social media/forums/discords?
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 No.6669

>>6667
>>6666
Thank you, this is really useful. Also, kiriban get. How do I write 'Anti anti' and 'anti AI' in JP? Like, what is the common term?

 No.6670

>>6669
>Anti anti
I doubt you'd need this, proship/anti stuff doesn't really exist on JP side so they'd probably assume you're not an anti in the first place if you're chill. For AI I've seen JP users put "No AI" or AI with the X/stop emoji

 No.6675

>>6669
Personally I used the stop emoji before these things. Namely because I saw others doing it lol.
Maybe anti isn't needed as >>6670 says but don't speak Japanese well so I also use English and I made the experience that a few fans grew vary of me when they found me but calmed down and followed after they learned that I accept all form of shippings in fanart. I later added the sign in the bio just to be sure, since some of them made had experiences with antis it seems. But if you only post in JP to begin with you don't need it. But add the fujo sign.
Technically saying that you're fujo should already include that you are against anti.


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