/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>8454
Every time I've asked for actual examples of what they mean by degrading it's literally been:
>Not drawing enough fanart/writing fanfics of the girl characters
>Not shipping the girl with the male character
>Liking the male characters more
>Criticizing an obvious misogynist trope for being a misogynist trope

>>8457
Oh yes, it's always like that. The girl pining after the guy with loving devotion but the guy courteously ignoring her at best and being a complete total abusive asshole to her at worst. But disliking this overused dynamic is actually what makes you hate women and you only prefer gay ships because you fetishize gay men you monster etc etc.

>>8460
KEK it's too real though, I can't believe the Relena hate (her relationship with Heero is literally the one described above but even worse btw) triggered hetshippers and men so hard that it reverberated through fandoms like this for decades.

>>8465
>Not drawing enough fanart/writing fanfics of the girl characters
>Not shipping the girl with the male character
>Liking the male characters more
>Criticizing an obvious misogynist trope for being a misogynist trope
Every time it circles back to fujos not making the content they want for free and yaoi being icky. And they act like you are hurting the dignity of a real person instead of a fictional concept.

>>8461
>I think a lot of them project onto Sakura or other characters of that nature, so they take it as a personal insult if you don't want her to be with Sasuke.
Every single female Sakura apologist I've met in my life has either openly used her as a self insert or simply been a contrarian who likes her because others hate her. This bitch is hated by literally everyone regardless of sex, age or any other factor because she started out as an awful character and the later measly "developments" came in too late and nothing could fix her fundamentally unlikable character anyway. But somehow people only call out fujos for disliking her.

I love fandoms that are small, fandoms where no dramas unfold, where every new piece of content is treasured. I'm coming back to my old hyperfixation after having fun in a huge fandom and I just love how peaceful it is. Feels like a breath of fresh air

I love BL visual novels. I love getting bad endings and seeing different directions the story can take. I also like how VNs are more able to balance story with the romance than most manga or anime I try. Sometimes, when I read a manga with an interesting premise, I'll feel disappointed that the story never fully capitalized on its premise. I find it so frustrating when a story sacrifices the plot for the romance, so I've found visual novels are more likely to have the two woven together in a manner that's more appealing to me. It's nice to have a direct view inside the protagonist's head, too, especially when he's written as his own unique character rather than a thinly-veiled self-insert. I also like how long VNs are, as it gives me more time to become invested. VNs always will be my preferred medium for BL. If you saw me post and delete this twice like a week ago, please pretend you didn't.

>>8456
I notice that I find myself thinking back to VNs much more than any other BL medium
As you mentioned with the bad endings, the way VNs are free to explore different ideas and outcomes within the same premise allows for some really interesting writing, and I think it's also a great way for an author to spread out lore and arcs very neatly between different options/routes
Along with the point about how long they are, I have a feeling that the way VNs are finished stories at release can really strengthen them
Even if a VN is long enough to be a trilogy of novels, it doesn't matter! The main story MUST be complete before release, which firstly filters out writers that can't finish what they started, and secondly cuts out fan influence in plot progression
BLVNs remind me of indie movies, where the amount of resources and time and effort needed to make a passable product keeps out creators that aren't passionate, but are also niche enough where it allows for uncompromised visions since sales numbers aren't a focal point

>>8447
Real

>>8450
Idol/idol anime fans are just insane, that's why. You chose the wrong niche to get invested in, I'm afraid.

>>8451
Funnily enough none of the 2.5D I've been into were adaptations of idol series. Just fujo stuff. I did watch some Hypmic plays through a friend but those are relatively easy to come by.

>>8441
Kek, dies irae right?

>>8441
The most homoerotic non-BL visual novel I've ever read.

Although
>Schreiber
>Inexperienced
Wasn't he a prostitute?

Both would be the best, but I care about the characters being interesting more, for me personally the characters being engaging on their own is more important than interactions, especially if most of the interactions are cookie-cutter, if they don't have an interesting story or origin even, I am not really going to be into them.
My favorite dynamic is antagonist/antihero/antagonist with redemption arc with hero, and often thankfully the nemesis gets a great design, even better than the mains.

Daredevil is a good example of a general vice shift. In any another context Matt/Foggy would have been the most popular shit, but Foggy looked like he was objectively and canonically an unattractive guy and so it got pushed aside in comparison to Daredevil/Punisher (a more typical rivals ship), but around 3-4 years Matt/Foggy became popular and surpassed Daredevil/Punisher, so I think again there is a shift where dynamics and character interaction prevail over just looks

>>4609
Harry Du Bois/Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium
Roadhog/Junkrat from Overwatch

>>8175
It's fine as speculative fan art, but you couldn't get me to read a doujin or fanfic of yuribending.

>>8178
I was referring to turning the female love interest into a whiny male uke, that's hot

I don't like it when the guys (seme or uke) cum multiple times in succession during sex or cum too easily. It's unrealistic and cumming should be climax of sex scenes (literally).

However having a character cum easily is acceptable if it's humiliating and/or shows he's a pervert with no control of his body.

>>8302
>The author decided to post two versions to appeal to everyone, but I still hated it.
I think I know the exact fic you are talking about. The sex was really bad anyway so no great loss, but still…
>Is this the future of yaoi shipping? With every gay sex scenario comes a straight reimagining of that scenario?
Gun to my head, I'd prefer at least having an option as opposed to being served nothing but straight sex masquerading as gay sex. But I agree it's a very sad state of affairs. It'd be less concerning if it was a small minority, but when it becomes a sizeable percentage of a fandom… The last fandom I was openly involved in on social media was nearly 10 years ago, and I had to quit cold turkey because the trans stuff was becoming too prevalent for me. To hear that it's apparently only gotten worse is depressing as hell.

>>8132
>then it's just projection of their genderfeelz onto their fave.
One of the most egregious examples of this I’ve seen recently is a fanfic author writing the uke as trans but still having the clit be referred to as a dick. The cope is on a whole new level, it’s honestly pathetic to see. The author had some good stuff previously but suddenly started flooding the ship tag with this shit, it’s a shame.

i know fags and bl are different but bl should reflect reality in this case

>>5554
I was reading Harry Potter fanfic on ff.net back when I was 11. I saw the Drarry fics but I didn't click on them, mostly I read gen fics, marauders fics, marauders time travel fics, and anything that wasn't straight up porn or RonxHermione. Anyways one day I started a very mysterious, untagged fic that was structured like an epistolary novel. Two students at Hogwarts start corresponding anonymously through some magical trinket. You understand very quickly the first student is Harry but the second, well, the mystery was much thicker, at least to 10 years old me. Anywys this fic is great and the love between the corresponding students grows as the fic goes, until they reveal their identities to each other… Gasp, the other student was Draco. The rest is history.

>>8322
Ah, porny HP fics - the destroyers of innocence. Happened to me too.

>>8341
Kek there wasn't even any porn. I vividly remember my first porny HP fic though, it was a hardcore Ginny Hermione Snape threesome in the Slytherin dungeons that involved a lot of bondage. I was reading it like others would watch a trainwreck in slow mo.

>>8355
The dragon boy on that first one is cute. Switch his position and state of undress with the woman and I will now play your game.

>>8353
>at least my skills are leveled up for the next ship
In theory yes and I hope for that for you, but I've seen some writers that have been for 2 decades in the game if not more, and havent really improved lel

New thread since this one hit bump limit which is 500 for the newfags
>>8357