No.8898[Last 50 Posts]
Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.
Old thread
>>6255 No.8902
>>8901This puriteen needs to find Fujo Jesus and start writing the wild shit they're clearly repressing.
No.8903
>>8901KEK this is so funny
No.8906
>>8901The rehabilitate part makes it kinda sound like the proshippers are wild animals kek.
No.8907
>>8904Kiwi spergs are something else, pic related is her malding over the second pic kek.
>I'd say fujos are way, way worse than yuricucks from a woman's standpoint […] Fujos, on the other hand, are a menace to all fandom spaces.In her post she doesn't explain why fujos are worse but makes sure to say yurifags are just annoying for men. I love that she hates fujos so much she can't even say why. Also I got no clue what she's saying on the second pic.
No.8908
>>8907>she doesn't explain why fujos are worseMakes her husbando a fudgepacker
>Also I got no clue what she's saying on the second pic.She's just calling some random fujo ugly and saying only ugly girls are fujoshis I guess?
No.8910
>>8904This is a salty yume who can't comprehend a woman not self-inserting herself into everything which leads her to think that a fujo who enjoys two dudes fucking is an insecure cuck. She is just mad that most fanworks with her husbando involve him taking it up the ass.
No.8911
>>8910That's why she's hilarious.
No.8912
>>8905Lack of he/him and female self insert is confusing my aiden radar, but I'm still 90% sure it's probably not an actual guy.
No.8913
>>8912There is no AFAB indicator more reliable than giving a damn about "pro/anti" stuff, lol.
No.8914
>>8904>>8907This kiwi girl is an obviously autistic hetfag / yume and such a clown malding over fictional characters being "disrespected".
>this level of arrogance and no shame just pisses me offOh no! Fujos writing fanfiction!! The horror!! I'm sure Sakura and Kairi are stuck crying in a corner
No.8917
>>8916>Junjou RomanticaWhy is she using this as an example of shotacon? Is she actually retarded? The only "underage" aspect in Junjou Romantica was the high schooler that fell in love with the adult, but he was already 18 by then from what I remember. I assume she's meaning to use Loveless as an example instead, but is mixing them up.
No.8918
>>8916I would've said ironic but I've seen people like this in the wild who are very obvious fujos and still shit on fujo things. The bad grammar and the
autocorrected romantica with an ´ which leads me to believe the poster is ESL makes me think it's a shitpost either way
No.8919
>>8907I've never seen someone fail to spell "teehee" before.
No.8929
>>8905I rarely see actual dudes online caring about proship discourse, much less saying things like "proshit."
No.8932
>>8901why are their characters always so ugly?
No.8933
>>8907You know what's ironic? and also sad for these lonely spergy yumes?
That even after all the bad pr they tried to do on fujos for years, call us fetishizers, making fun of yaoi hands or yaoi paddles, well in less than a year now, yumes are publically known as huge coomers.
Huge thanks to the love and deep space game becoming widely known, now everyone knows their cringe ass game where they have pov sex with an anime boy, guess that's why they don't want fujos to ship them with each other kek such is karma.
No.8938
>>8934This person needs a whole lot of therapy. Who wastes their time obsessing over people who could give less of a shit about her?
No.8939
>>8934I wonder if YWNBAM-chan is jealous over the popularity and community yaoi has. Maybe find a community of yumes or hetshippers if you are salty and need to self-insert?
No.8952
>>8939Yume communities have gone back to the 2000s style of NO SHARING HE BELONGS TO ME ONLY style autism, probably because they rebranded to 'selfshipping' (something something muh cultural appropriation) and only get along with yumes who have a different husbando than them kek.
I am genuinely curious who YWNBAM chan's husbando is though, i̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶p̶i̶n̶o̶c̶c̶h̶i̶o̶?̶ ̶
No.8972
>>8952I wonder what prompted that change?
No.8975
>>8972A lot of the tumblr girls who were into "kinning" switched over to "selfshipping" but the NO DOUBLES autism carried over.
No.8978
>>8972When you are an insecure woman who has to pretend she’s in a relationship with a fictional man to experience any form of love no matter how detached from reality, seeing other women pretending they’re in a relationship with the same man as you shatters that fantasy. Suddenly you can’t pretend that your husbando is devoted to you only and you get jealous.
It’s easier to avoid that realisation altogether and only interact with yumes who ship themselves with other fictional men.
No.9005
>>9004>the fujoshi virus killed her creative drive blahblahblah mind virusIf there's anything you can criticize fujos for, I don't think it's being boring or soulless kek. Especially coming from Mrs. Yume Het Absolutist over here
No.9008
>>9007Not little but yes it's about escaping sex pest cats, it's more comedic than dark though. Wandanohara has similar themes but takes itself seriously. I wouldn't call Funamusea a fujo at all though, most of the games I've played from her are het and my earliest interactions from her were Yume Nikki fan art. Grey Garden has themes of BL but most of her stuff is decidedly not.
No.9009
>>9004What wildly creative and soulful things are they making that fujo content pales in comparison to?
No.9013
>>9004Just what is this deranged word salad? Faggot fujo homo rape slave porn that and tranny fujoshi virus this. Is Deep Sea Prisoner even a fujo or is she just being an insane femcel over fanon BL ships?
No.9015
>>9008>>9013>I wouldn't call Funamusea a fujo at all thoughShe's a little bit fujo with her demon OCs and their oedipus complex love child.
>>9009Her games are very "of their era" and haven't really aged as well as other games like Ib and yume nikki. A lot of the character designs are cute though.
No.9031
>>9004so theories on her saltiness? this level of obsession comes from deep issues.
is she a repressing aiden? maybe yaoi triggers her ~ gender dysphoria ~ lol
her username might be a bitter reminder to herself…
No.9032
>>9031Most definitely just a salty yume pickme, the "I'm the sole straight girl that loves heterosex in a world full of trannies and fujos" type.
Probably tried to fit in with other female peers before but they were all likely fine with homosex so decided to go plead allegiance with men. I've seen a lot of these.
It tells me a lot that she somehow talks about funamusea as if she were only a fujo when most of her games have hardcore het rape and people love shipping loli/man who abuses her in her games yet she doesn't complain about that, ONLY the gay shit.
No.9034
>>8934>>8907As fujo and yume, thank god I out grew this shit and accepted that I'm a pervert
All of this boils down to insecurity.
No.9035
>>9032it does make sense, though ive never seen this level of hate towards hetshitters and yumes on the end of fujos, so it's so startling to see someone get this pressed over fictional stuff, to the point it does make me wonder what kind of other issues this person might have if any
No.9036
>>9032Kek. Is she one of those main character delulus who believe they're oppressed because their theory of mind is so eroded that the thought someone out there sharing their beliefs is improbable? Straightslop is everywhere. One can just go outside and find them in their local store, but do hetshitters know? Fuck no, they'd much rather sperg about the ebil fujos and their plot to steal their husbandos away from them. Men are burning the world down while the only thing of concern is whether or not two men fucking their bums is a threat to womenkind.
No.9037
>>9032Def this. She's just a EW FUJOS EVERYWHERE IN MY FANDOM type. It always boils down to whining that fujoshi make their own content instead of het or f/f. Always.
>>9034Accepting you're a pervert for 2D men is so freeing as you get older. I'm so sick of these dumb fujo yume ship het hime whatever wars, especially since I like all kinds of pairings.
No.9038
>>9034>thank god I out grew this shit and accepted that I'm a pervert same kek
the general conclusion when I reveal that Im a fujoyumehime is that im a porn addict but I dont care. I dont make my hobby a reflection of my moral opinions or use it as a form of activism, a good story is a good story.
No.9039
>>9038Agreed, the sooner one accepts they're into weird shit the sooner they can stop letting it run their entire life.
I'm still gonna make fun of people with weird fetishes that aren't my own though.
No.9040
>>9039>I'm still gonna make fun of people with weird fetishes that aren't my own though.I think theres a distinction between making fun of someone vs dedicating your entire time and personality to being a hater. Sure I'll mock some of the tropes I hate but I wont go out of my way to find said people who like the content and complain about how their taste sucks upfront. I'd rather stay in my bunkered off FUB free 20k blocklist curated twitter account than touch shit taste with a 20 meter stick
No.9041
>>9035>>9040As someone who used to regularly browse the farms myself, I think it's almost impossible to be a kiwifarms regular without having other issues.
No.9045
>>9031IME it's just bitterness towards other women in general. You have to have some amount of pickme-ism and NLOGism in you to be able to post on Kiwifarms to begin with but being absolutely obsessed like she is is some deep seated personal resentment. Maybe her friends in high school were fujos and shipped her husbando with another male character, that seems to be the anti-fujo origin story for most female autists.
>>9044>She thinks fujos give a shit about the canonThe utter foolishness of a person with no creativity or imagination.
No.9046
>>9045>You have to have some amount of pickme-ism and NLOGism in you to be able to post on Kiwifarms to begin withShe seems like a slightly more stable version of Paladinboo.
>>9032>yume pickmeI so desperately want to know who her husbando is. I feel like it has to be a character with a sizable fujo fanbase or with a prominent m/m ship.
>she somehow talks about funamusea as if she were only a fujo when most of her games have hardcore het rape and people love shipping loli/man who abuses her in her games yet she doesn't complain about that, ONLY the gay shit.Even funnier, looking at her post, the person she's replying to EXPLICITLY brings up the loli rape. She somehow turned it around to talk about yaoi kek.
No.9048
>>9045>She thinks fujos give a shit about the canonNot to detract from your point, but I prefer my BL to at least be canon-adjacent/divergent if not you might as well be writing OCs. That being said a character getting into a canon het relationship isn't a dealbreaker at all since you can just write around it so those "Fujos btfo!" posts are always so funny.
No.9049
>>9046>PaladinbooHoly fuck that's a name I haven't heard in a while. Clearly mentally underdeveloped women who get stuck in the pickme rut trying to catch male attention by sperging about fujos to ease their crippling loneliness and depression are truly a sight to behold.
>>9048AYRT, yeah, basically meant that fujos don't give a shit if their established couple is given a girlfriend in the canon or not if the gay relationship is still there.
No.9052
>>9051>especially if it's a fandom with a child audienceI'm not gonna deny that there's fujos into kid's shows but it's not the majority kek.
>it can fuck them up for life Seems like she's mad that preteen girls are writing gay shit on wattpad kek.
>both female and male mediaIs this about mahou shoujo having gay characters again?
>fujos just find female bodies repulsivethen why is genderswap BL and omegaverse a thing
Girl really needs to take a chill pill, I don't get how you can be this angry just thinking about gay people let alone anime gay people.
No.9055
>>9053I think they just don't really understand how puberty works and automatically assume that middle schoolers taking interest in sexually explicit material automatically means that an adult grooming them was involved, when most of the time it's just 12 year old girls on wattpad writing 'sexy lemons' for other 12 year old girls on wattpad while every older teen or adult woman is on AO3.
What's ironic is there's way stranger stuff on wattpad kek, just look at the kidnapped by one direction sub genre.
No.9057
>>9051I like how she says she believes many fujos like yaoi because it allows them to avoid the excessive sexualization of women seen in both media and real life (which they may have experienced personally), while allowing bad things to happen to men instead of having to watch those same things happen to women, and then acts like that's a bad thing. I mean, I'd argue that's not even why most women are fujos, but if it were, would that be so horrible? Does she have this same energy for things like Honkai Impact and Love Live with predominantly female casts written by men which don't even have that reasoning attached to them?
No.9058
>>9054is she really saying that evil fujos hate female characters while shipping sasusaku? sasuke treated sakura like shit all their childhood and left her a single mother kek
No.9059
>>9058A lot of current Sakura fans are like that, they sort of infight with each other as from what I've seen
>Naruto x Sakura fans hate Sasuke because he's a deadbeat dad>Sasuke x Sakura fans hate yaoi because it's misogynistic or something and naruto because Sasuke is Sakura's troo luv No.9060
>>9051Girl is on a fucking crusade lmfao. Are we sure this isn't just Paladinboo under a new username? The schizophrenia checks out.
>>9057This is what gets me though. She acknowledges a perfectly good reason why a woman would be into fujo stuff (No female sexualization, burnout from a lifetime of living in the rape culture etc) but frames that as a bad thing and starts sperging out about yaoi being a poonerpill. This is why it comes off to me as just a moral grandstanding over other women rather than genuine concern.
No.9061
>>9053The reality is more like middle-school and high-school girls discovering yaoi and fandom within groups of their peers and writing One Direction wattpad or currently HoYoverse / bkdk / stsg AO3 fanfic themselves. Or joining a fandom Discord server with other minors and thirsting over some anime boy in a chat. I also wonder how this individual feels about how it's seen as a rite of passage for teenage boys to discover actual porn and compulsively watch pornography on PornHub and similar sites.
To be fair I hate how teenagers are included by default in fandom groups online and wish every social media site and Discord had a global rule to be 18+ but that's not our fault.
>>9058Canon sasusaku is Sasuke being a deadbeat dad while Sakura looks as dumb as a bag of rocks. At least champion a better hetship instead of getting offended other fans don't like it.
No.9062
>>9055My anime porno journey was entirely self guided. Virgin until 28 but pervert at 12!
No.9063
>>9051I feel like this person is literally what every twitter/tumblrina that keeps talking about how "fujos are misogynists because they don't care about the wahmen" thinks deep down. No need to put some glorification about feminism or whatever, you're just really upset fujos don't make the het content that you want and you can't talk to other girls because you have an aversion to people liking things that you don't lmao
No.9064
>>9053In real life though, we are bombarded with highly sexualized female content and will be like 95% of the kind that children are exposed to
>>9054What a victim complex they have! While I'm not saying lesbians are not victimized, it is a truth that female sexuality is just so much more highly accepted in society than male sexuality. Its almost taken as a given that sexuality is inherently tied to femininity as if it weren't part of masculinity as well, as if males didn't enjoy sex and intimacy, either with women and/or men.
It is to be expected to be more guarded and jealous of mlm relationships and content since its so much easier for everyone to want to get rid of them while giving a pass to wlw ones. And I'm hoping this changes in the future because its not healthy at all, much less fair.
No.9066
>>9065moids that post in forums like this have to go
No.9067
>>9065"fandom's decline" is so funny because nobody is making them look at all the gay porn or talk about shipping. All men want to talk about is power scaling and how hot the girls are and they can do that all day over on /tv/. These people are choosing to go into fujo spaces and getting mad at what they see there. Fish found in aquarium.
>>9066The girls too tbh. Anybody who has this much time to commit to bitching needs to be cut off from the internet for a while.
No.9068
>>9044This guy is so pleased with himself he sought out the homothread to keep posting about it, even though he claimed it was only one girl since pre-pandemic threads.
>>9051This read like she copied someone else's homework in the middle but butchered the sentences and tacked her own unrelated take on the end. How are there 25 reactions on it?
>>9053>rehashing the moral panic over gays AGAINYou'd think with all these groups actively grooming children en masse we'd have not a single normal child left in society by now. And yet, children do what children have always done, whether you want them to or not.
No.9069
>>9065Buffy had a huge shipping fanbase of girls, and so did once upon a time, we even had shipping names for each straight ships in that show.
Why do they always think it's strictly a fujos thing? If anything I remember the supernatural fujos were so chill.
I personally loved the Hannibal show and even some moids called the show homoerotic on purpose.
No.9070
>>9053Yeah this is just a reskinned "gays are pedos" panic immediately conflating homosexuality to perversion and pornography and children being brainwashed into it. I was much more damaged by older men instilling hentai tropes on me than gushing about problematic yaoi with my peers when I was 14 to begin with, but this idea of older fujos pushing obscene porn on minors narrative often feels like pure projection by said predatory moids. Adult fujos don't want to hang around kids, the ones who think of themselves as the "fandom moms" with a discord server filled with 16-year olds are almost always one of those "antiship" cult leaders anyway.
>>9065>boo hoo women ruin fandoms by shippingAt least fujos care about the show rather than goonmoids who are only there for the AI-generated porn slop. And for every psychotic supernatural destiel fan there are 1000 male fans who *will* conduct a home invasion and a kidnapping plot to rape and murder the female actress they're obsessed with.
No.9100
>>9098>Death Note>GayShe has the fujo goggles ON.
No.9103
>>9102She can only watch shoujo anime till the day she dies and still won't run out of hetshit to watch, what is the point of this list?
I do agree with her that bleach is a straight anime though, fujos were shipping Ichigo with Grimmjow only because they were two hot guys but that’s it.
No.9106
>>9100To be fair the foot scene was pretty gay, but that's anime exclusive kek.
Death note's fujo stuff mainly comes from the character designs I think, because Takeshi Obata likes to draw gay stuff here and there.
>>9102>Fate zero>StraightFate's a pretty gay franchise as it is kek, the OG VN had a bisexual threesome.
No.9108
>>9102>FMA>Mushishi>Big O>Fate/Zero>Hell GirlIt's amazing just how many of these I have a ship for. Also
>>9104 I agree with your assessment, they're gay across the entire franchise and more compelling than Emiya/Saber. Waver/Iskandar are also pretty gay in Zero one of the more Fujo entries in the series.
>>9103>fujos were shipping Ichigo with Grimmjow only because they were two hot guys but that’s it.And I was over here shipping him with Uryuu, Bleach was my Naruto in terms of shonen and they were my SasuNaru.
No.9110
>>9098>>9102Obsession. This almost has the vibe of a victim of conversion therapy. It's like she's aggressively trying to deny something deep inside.
>>9104Kek I was thinking the same thing, Irisviel was cucking Kiritsugu with her lesbian lover Saber while Gilgamesh went hard seducing Kirei and Iskandar had a bona fide gay relationship with Waver practically confirmed by the Case Files series. Nothing about that fucking anime was straight.
No.9113
>>9110>Irisviel was cucking KiritsuguWasn't it the other way around? Kiritsugu was cheating on her hard lol
No.9114
>>9102>>9103Ironic, since most het shoujo romances are done the biggest fujos
No.9116
>>9102>Kenshin>straightMy first porn fics were Kenshin. Even fics that weren't porn would casually make bad jokes about Hiko's dick while the guys shared a bath. And don't let the old Akira fanbase hear them. Back in the day there was some serious angst made out of the camaraderie and lost friends. Even ignoring the manga you had one obvious pairing in the movie that got tons of fics, and I don't even mean Tetsuo and Kaneda.
>>9108I didn't read or watch far enough for Grimmjow so I always knew Ishida as the common ship. When the anime filler had vampire women chasing him everyone was laughing and saying he was flustered not because of the danger but because he's never experienced a heterosexual relationship before.
No.9125
>>9102>AkiraMaybe it's me being bias cuz I ship Kaneda and Tetsuo but I always thought Tetsuo was in homo denial with Kaneda. Also Kai and Yamagata get a lot of content together. The amount of cute and angst content the bike gang gets is pretty big.
YWNBAM-chan is pretty strange, I understand not being a fujo, I have a lot of friends who like anime or video games but don't care for shipping, much less homo shipping. But damn, YWNBAM-chan is on a crusade, even as a yume she goes out of her way to be extremely deranged by bringing the fujo topic all the time in her posts. Maybe she was a cringe fujo in middle school and now feels very ashamed? Kek
No.9126
>>9113He was, but Irisviel didn't give a shit because she was lezzing out with Saber and their marriage was basically a sham to begin with.
No.9165
>>9102It's the same type of behaviour of the lads fandom, being perpetually upset over fujos shipping guys together. Still I think it's not specifically against gay shipping but any ship that's not their own, it just so happens that gay ships are more popular in female fandoms, so that's where the salt stems from.
I've never seen for example guys in otome games or in shoujo comment about other girls or be interested in other women except for the heroine, otherwise they would be seething about it too.
No.9167
>>9166I'm not even bi (at least I don't think so) but there are so many otome protagonists or side character girls that I thought were cuter than the cast of guys. Probably just my low tolerance for default otomate ikemen template, I dislike any guy with a smug bastard expression and I prefer art styles with larger eyes to smaller eyes, plus unique outfits, and for some reason the A-game usually goes into the heroine's outfit.
Or maybe it's just that sometimes the heroine has such a cute design that I wish she was the protagonist of something more interesting. Or in a yuri game.
>>9165Personally I don't get why anyone would ship the LADS guys together, do they even have any shippy moments with each other? There have been otome game BL ships I was interested in, but I just assumed that a selfinsert game so focused on delivering het fanservice wouldn't even have any fujo crumbs in it. They're all so focused on the MC that I wouldn't be able to do it anyway, as opposed to a game with routes where you can handwave away the heroine with someone else if you want.
No.9169
>>9168I know fiction doesn't equal reality but it's hard for to imagine lesbians playing LADS unless they pretend all of the guys are butches. Why does everyone have to pretend a very heterosexual series or pairing is actually super kweer all the time?
No.9170
>>9168The same "lesbians" that like utena even thou is full of straight sex scenes lmao
They say they are lesbians for woke points like 95% of zoomettes on the internet, god forbid you just say that you are a straight woman, that's boring to them
No.9173
>>9165>I've never seen for example guys in otome games or in shoujo comment about other girls or be interested in other women except for the heroine, otherwise they would be seething about it too.I've seen some women who dislike the "dead wife" trope in otome games, which is pretty similar to what you describe. I don't know if that's exactly comparable. Sorry picrel isn't an anti-fujo post, but it's an illustration of what I mean. I don't mind this attitude, and I'm not making fun of these women at all, but I think you're correct.
>>9167>I wish she was the protagonist of something more interesting. Or in a yuri game.Not to derail the thread too much, but I wish there were more plotge with no romance, no h-scenes, and protagonists who look like otome MCs. It feels like an overwhelming majority of VNs with female protagonists are romance-focused, which sucks. There are exceptions, obviously, but I wish it could be more common.
No.9178
>>9169>Why does everyone have to pretend a very heterosexual series or pairing is actually super kweer all the time?I'm sorta deciding to play devil's advocate here, but it's mostly because there simply isn't good gay mainstream content out there. For example, digging up lesbian media is so fucking tedious because it's polluted by the embarrassingly preachy kweer rep garbage, coomers who want to see hot women making out and political lesbians who are there just to romanticize lesbianism as a form of sacred sisterhood. Nobody wants to tell a genuinely good story about lesbian characters. The only actually interesting lesbian stories are always told by those who clearly have a background in fujo stuff, and they're very rare. So some lesbians just choose to do stuff like play an otome pretend like they're the man courting the female main instead of self-inserting into the girl or headcanon the pretty boys as butch lesbians. When you've been conditioned since birth to adapt these mainstream perspectives you can manipulate your brain into doing these things since it's better than having nothing at all.
>inb4 just create your own stuff!!Most people actually do, but if you want to experience a community instead of just writing stuff alone you have to make do.
No.9180
>>9173I mean get it even though I don't have much interest in media that doesn't feature sex and romance as major themes. Like what do you mean by no romance? Between the main cast? Is it just a background story for one of them but the main story is decidingly bereft of it?
No.9183
>>9180>Like what do you mean by no romance?I guess I should've said, "without romance as the primary focus or end goal." When I made the post, I was thinking of VNs like Ace Attorney, 999, The Silver Case, Higurashi, etc. but through the perspective of a female character. For example, in 999, even though the protagonist has romantic feelings for one of the other characters, the routes are entirely based on the mystery. All of the endings you get are based on the choices you make regarding the plot itself, not his romance with the girl.
And ultimately, his romantic feelings are even used to further the plot instead of the other way around. I've found that a lot of otome games with an interesting premise completely sideline that premise in favor of all the romances, and it gets tiring for me. I'd just like to see more non-otome VNs with female protagonists and a stronger plot. A couple do exist, but they're pretty rare.
No.9189
>joining like one new discord per year despite hating discord but really having an urge to talk about my favorite shit
>fujo discord about my current favorite ship is dead because I didn't retweet admin's ugly genderbending fanart and disagreed with another person once
>old other fujo(!) discord I used for ages chimped out after I said I preferred anime with male MCs because that's extremely misogynist and apparently explaining that a lot of anime are sadly aimed at coomers is racist too even though I was talking about men in general
>> now said discord is dead too because everybody refuses to talk in front of toxic people like me
All I want is talking about dudes why is that so hard? Hell the latter discord was semi-dead before, but the SECOND I reveal that I prefer sausage fests they all leave their holes to attack me with tired strawman shenanigans.
Saying that I don't hated women, just how women were often written (i.e. as coomer bait, fanservice lesbians or token "the woman") doesn't make it less misogynist for some reason. ALL of the users are allegedly lesbians too so what I suspect is that they're just the very coomers I talked about because all they need to praise an anime as the best shit ever are two underaged feMCs.
It genuinely makes me wonder how many of these people are actually male trans dudes because these people love to whiteknight and scream about being super lesbian.
No.9193
>>9189>It genuinely makes me wonder how many of these people are actually male trans dudes because these people love to whiteknight and scream about being super lesbian.In my experience, every "lesbian" I encountered who wouldn't shut up about it and was anti male character was actually a dude.
No.9202
>>9194>ethically make itaka she is saying straight girls can't "ethically" make mlm, and I bet this post was made by a tif kek.
No.9203
>>9194there's no fujo union to fight for humane working conditions and fair wages. there was that whole fiasco with lezhin a few years back. for danmei webnovels some authors get horrendously bullied by their own readers if they have to take a break from updates. and we all know the JP manga industry is notorious for its crazy deadlines. there's no ethical yaoi under capitalism.
No.9206
>>9194>were the yaois farm grown and given plenty of grass to eatI'm having flashbacks to that Victuuri doujin.
No.9212
>>9194The mentality of only gay men (minority status) can write yaoi instead of evil straight women (majority oppressors) is so individualistic, Western, and retarded
No.9214
>>9202I know I was making a joke
>>9206Link? Sounds weird but I'm curious
No.9215
>>9178>coomers who want to see hot women making outBarring the blatantly gross moid art, this is the best category. Don't see what's wrong with wanting to see hot women make out, wanting to see hot people make out is the basis of any romantic/erotic art. Cute pure uwu lesbian media has some great titles even if it's often a snoozefest. The best lesbian media is a crossover between coomer and sentimental and it's not true that only fujos make it (though yuri by fujos hits hard, i fully agree with you). It's sad that lesbian media is divided between coomer shit (whore) and uguu AGP fodder (madonna) but it's not always like this. I know you're playing devil's advocate and i'm not arguing with you per se but
>headcanon the pretty boys as butch lesbiansThis is just bisexual cope. Or even straight cope if we're talking about neo-tumblrinas with major shame around being straight. People who say this shit do not think female homosexuality is real, because they claim lesbian status even though it's obvious they're male attracted *and* fujoshis. End of derail
>>9169>Why does everyone have to pretend a very heterosexual series or pairing is actually super kweer all the time?Some shame around their sexuality, it's like how TiFs insist they don't coom to BL, they just want to feel 'represented'. But it's mostly playing with labels because they're starved for attention and mystery
No.9221
>>9194Imaging living like this. Spending hours upon hours scrolling through everybody's profile to decide whether it's morally correct to like someone's gay shipping fanart.
I can just recommend everybody to slap the "FUJO" label right into the bio. It will save both us and them a lot of trouble. My life improved since I added "Fujo(成人腐)18↑" into my profile.
No.9222
>>9215>Or even straight cope if we're talking about neo-tumblrinas with major shame around being straight. Most of the times I see people headcanon an M/F ship as t4t or "lesbians" (t4t is more common though, and if both are M/M they still become t4t and heterofied) because they're afraid of liking a god forbid, cis straight ship.
Even "queer straight" (bi girl/bi man) is wrong, they have to be some level of trans or whatever
No.9227
>>9222I hate performative wokeness so fucking much. These people never do jackshit to help others or actually act progressive in any way, they just search for reasons to attack cartoon and game fans and call them out for things they never said to feel morally superior.
No.9234
>>9212yeah and it's actual misogyny, not wanting to read things created by women just because they are women.
No.9237
>>9232you know, given how so much yaoi discourse today is trans-centric gendie infighting, i forgot that 2000s/2010s discourse was usually just literal garden-variety homophobia
No.9278
>>9237It's true though. I remember when people used to cry about being called a homophobe for being so aggressively against yaoi but in the end most of them were. If you find the thought of two fictional men being in love so revolting you have to put some cringe anti-yaoi badge on your profile or scream (CHARACTER) IS NOT GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! every chance you get when you wouldn't have the same energy for him being shipped with a woman then yeah, you pretty obviously have something against the portrayal of gay relationships.
No.9281
>>9278Nowadays they try to hide that fact by throwing biphobia accusations at fujos.
"Why can't X get with a woman? Bisexuals exist. You're erasing their bisexuality. You are so BIPHOBIC!"
The funny thing is that yurifags use the same logic too. "Bayonetta can also be bisexual. Shipping her with Jeanne is showcasing her bisexuality. STOP TRYING TO ERASE BISEXUALS, YOU BIPHOBIC BIGOT"
No.9283
>>9233Not surprised to see Yuri and Flynn brought up here. While I was playing the game I found myself thinking that it almost comes off as intentional how shippable they are. Childhood friends to enemies to rivals. I would've liked to be around in the fujo part of the Tales fanbase when it was new.
No.9286
>>9278>Something something integrity of the character and making them gay is LITERALLY CHARACTER ABUSEAlthough I'd obviously rather have people not being homophobic, I can't deny that the song and dance that they would come up with for why hating gay couples in anime/games (including canon ones on occasion) was not entertaining on some level (especially if you look at old evageeks posts).
>>9283I was thinking of Zestiria's sorey x mikleo for the pseudo canon gay ship (I really should get into tales at some point…)
No.9292
>>9290Fuck I meant Axel, well it still works.
>>9291oh damn they went off hardcore kek
No.9294
>>9283>I would've liked to be around in the fujo part of the Tales fanbase when it was new.As an oldfag I was around back then and I have to say, Tales fujoism was very mundane and people just kind of vibed with it. To my recollection there was no "HE'S NOT GAY!!!!!!!!!!" kind of infighting because the fandom consisted of fujos who also kept it pretty PC, explicit stuff wasn't very common. It's so sad the series was killed off because it was like the only JRPG that was dominated by a female audience. Sorry for blogposting, just had to reminiscence a bit.
>>9286>Something something integrity of the character and making them gay is LITERALLY CHARACTER ABUSEIt's so, so dumb. "No really, I'm not a homophobe, I don't have anything against gay people but IF YOU SHIP THIS CHARACTER WITH ANOTHER CHARACTER OF THE SAME SEX YOU'RE LITERALLY SLANDERING THEM AND I'M PUTTING 10 STAMPS ON MY PROFILE YELLING ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE IT!!! got nothing against gays though"
No.9295
>>9294I think tales being a more niche series compared to say, Naruto and Kingdom hearts (at least in the western fandom) also contributed to that, generally the more popular a series is the more underaged normies it's gonna bring in after all.
>It's so, so dumbMakes me wonder what the next type of anti fujos are gonna be kek.
We went from 90s to early 2010s unsubtle homophobia to mid 2010s to early 2020s "muh fetishization" troon stuff until shitposting made being a fujoshi cool, I guess people could argue that we're currently in a "YOU NEED TO CARE MORE ABOUT FEMALE CHARACTERS" era but that's more a leftover from the fetishization era imo.
No.9300
>>9295>I guess people could argue that we're currently in a "YOU NEED TO CARE MORE ABOUT FEMALE CHARACTERS" era but that's more a leftover from the fetishization era imo.This is the current discourse in BL circles and I want these fake ass hetty bettys to get the fuck out of BL fandom.
No.9301
>>9296AYRT. Yeah, that's how I remember it being, especially the part about people being more fans of the characters rather than the ships. The Tales fandom was one of the chillest I've ever been in, people generally minded their own business and didn't fight over ships. Very "live and let live" kind of mindset.
>>9295The "you need to care more about female characters" is definitely the current shoe they're throwing at us after the fetishization accusations went out of style. As things are in the Current world, maybe the next will be just open homophobia again.
No.9302
>>9301>maybe the next will be just open homophobia againHave you been living under a rock? We're already at this point. 'Ironic homophobia' jokes are cool with the kiddies now, like saying '[BL ship you don't like] turned me homophobic', throwing homophobic terms at real life gay actors, and other stupid shit. Apparently going on about how limp-wristed your fave is is now the height of comedy.
No.9305
>>9295>I guess people could argue that we're currently in a "YOU NEED TO CARE MORE ABOUT FEMALE CHARACTERS" eraIt's that plus
>why isn't yuri as popular?!>isn't it misogyny that the lame canon female love interest is getting "ignored"?!>why don't fujoshi like female characters?! why don't you write het or fix the canon female characters?!>fujoshi hate themselves because they self-interest into the uke!and also muh fetishization
No.9306
>>9305They're also pissed that female characters aren't more prominent in BL and that it's misogyny when they're not highlighted in BL
No.9307
>>9300>hetty bettysI like this one, I'm gonna take it.
>maybe the next will be just open homophobia againI feel like that would only work on smaller sites since they'd probably get ratio'd on anime twitter.
>>9305For a minute troons were claiming yaoi was transphobic because the uke was a representation of trans women lmao, I'm kinda curious if that's gonna become a running one in the future.
>why isn't yuri as popular?!I don't get this since it's so easy to explain
>yuri is more popular with guys, but self inserting and having a waifu is the main thing in guy otaku fandom>yaoi is the main thing with female otakus No.9308
>>9305>lame canon female love interest is getting "ignored">fix the canon female charactersI treat the canon love interests unusually well for a fujo and will occasionally get people snippy at me about it, either through anon comments or vagueposting. You can't win. In one instance it's a small fandom so I'm technically her most prolific writer (and also her best one if you'll allow me some pride), but if you want to read about her being cool you must venture into my BL dungeon. Like if they can read a by-their-own-admission "great" story with her in it but can't get over that she's not in her canon ship, I don't think they actually like her…
>>9307>claiming yaoi was transphobic because the uke was a representation of trans women lmaoI remember this and thankfully the modern HSTS does not find the argument compelling.
No.9309
>>9308>the modern HSTS does not find the argument compellingThat's the extra funny part, it was AGPs kek.
No.9310
>>9307>For a minute troons were claiming yaoi was transphobic because the uke was a representation of trans women lmaolmao of course AGPs think women's porn revolves around them! everything women do is about them! troons and crossdressers are soooo desirable among women, such a classic female fantasy
>>9308>you can't winI usually ignore the canon li (why would a woman feature in a gay love story?) or have her in the background as a supportive friend. people will complain about those two options, they whine about having the girl get paired off, they whine if the girl dies, they whine if the girl gets "erased", they whine if there's infidelity in canon relationship, they whine about everything
No.9312
>>9311>that third picNature is healing. ♥
No.9314
>>9313>Can't recommend BL without insulting fujoshi in the process>If one or both of the mains is trans it's not even real BL anywayI dunno why you'd even bother at this point. I guess some people just actively want to be miserable.
No.9315
>>9312>Nature is healing. ♥I was so happy, these comments were just the tip of the iceberg. There were so many fujos fighting back.
>>9313I swear this person needs a job or a new hobby because yuri isn't distracting them enough.
>cares about trans characters.No wonder they're yuri works aren't popping off. A good chunk of yuri fans are secretly not accepting of trans characters.
No.9316
>>9311>Every time I get a hit yaoi tweet it legitimately takes off my life span >Any hit tweet revolving around those men is chipping away at my lifeThen don’t tweet about those men? What is the issue here? If women liking yaoi is so damaging to her life then she should simply not engage with it. But I guess seeing thousands of likes on her tweets shitting on fujos gives her dopamine so she won’t stop.
No.9318
>>9313That's a BL? Bullshit kek there's crossdressing yaoi that looks less like yuri than that.
No.9319
>>9317Unrelated but I shipped the brothers in S1, I'm pretty salty that the other ship took off in s2 onwards because the protagonist is ugly.
No.9320
>>9319I’m glad I’m not the only one that was salty that the brothers weren’t the ship that took off kek.
No.9322
>>9321Hwang Jun-ho/Frontman vs Frontman/Seong Gihun.
No.9323
>>9311>>9313>>9317>"lesbian" obsessed with cooming to yuri and hatesperging about fujos>she/her>transLike clockwork. I remember when the yurifags on Lolcow seething over fujos got so mad over a yuricow thread being made they mass reported it to get banned on grounds of being "just another troon thread" which was such a self-own kek
No.9324
>>9313>BL>trans characters So….its yuri?
No.9341
>>9325>>9324I read the main comic and there's zero mention of trans characters anywhere. Seems like it's just a headcanon
No.9352
>>9165I hate the LADS fandom and the game itself. It's a sign of how bad gacha has gotten for fujos. If you want to play a game that isn't just a clicking simulator there's nothing for you as a fujo besides Hoyoverse. Now people are more schizo than ever about "Master Love". Even incels will praise LADS yumes because they see them as successful gatekeeper since incels hate fujos more, which makes it funnier when Hoyo haters say that yumes are very oppressed. Yumes get to determined that the future of gacha for husbandos are otome games where you can't homo ship at all and calling fujos misogynists who want them to get "cucked". Yumes are always shitting on fujos in mixed spaces. Joseimuke boards allow yumes to shit on fujos but fujos are never allowed to return fire. Fujos will always be second class citizens in the gachasphere since we have to share with both incels and yumes.
No.9353
>>9352>nothing for you as a fujo besides HoyoverseI always see people who play other EN gachaslop shit all over Hoyo for no particular reason and I just realized that it's probably because there's a large fujo presence.
No.9355
>>9295Now antifujosim is replaced by himejoshis hating it, yumes hating it, and troons hating it.
No.9358
>>9352Are you referring to that /vmg/ gen? I have nothing against LADS and know many zasshoku types who enjoy otome and fujo media, but some of the yumes in there have been ragebaiting and starting infighting for no reason. It reeks of insecurity when your game is successful but somehow your focus is on fujo ships/drama instead of the latest patch updates. I don't even give a fuck about haikveh but seeing all that money being poured into that KFC collab and it going viral gives me a lil schadenfreude knowing that it pisses a lot of annoying moids and yumes off.
No.9360
>>9352>>9355Everyone envies us because no matter the hate we get we still seem to thrive, even across the centuries all the way back to ancient Greece! Ha ha ha!
No.9362
>>9358>It reeks of insecurityThis. I hope the thread dies soon, it's literally the only general I visit over there anymore and these schizos have made it unbearable. No Stacy, I don't care that some rando on xitter made two of your ugly kpop boys kiss.
No.9368
>>9353I hate Hoyo so much for the type of fan wars they encourage among everyone including the fujos, and for selling out to incels and getting a pass for it as long as they add in some minor yaoibait (all in timed minor events or in merch) but the hate they get from incels and yumes alike from having a fujo culture while other gachas don't is obvious. I hate how bad gacha is for fujos now. Incels hate it, himejoshis hate it, and yumes are very loud about hating it and crying that they get nothing. Now the future of games for husbandos and female players must all be otome with only the female MCs and no interaction between guys because yumes and fujos can't coexist the way they used to.
>>9358The joseimuke board has always been like that but it's gotten worse because LADS banning BL fanwork (I only for contests but still) has encouraged the fans to be hostile towards any sort of M/M shipping. These same people hate otome games that let you pick the gender, or have been complaining when joseimuke games like Ensemble Stars do fujobait in addition to yumebait, but LADS upped the ante of anti fujo sentiment. This is why I don't like the people who claim otome games are the future of husbandos for gacha since the nature of them means fujos still have nothing. I do think fujos want to play real games too, not only BL games, and the ability of fujos to ship no matter how hostile the fans or the source material are is a positive thing about us, but it also means we get much less and have to deal with scraps.
>>9362Gacha games are more extreme now when it comes to self-insertion, it's why I wish there could be a joseimuke game without one. /vmg/ is taken over by yumes and the rest of the boards are even worse. Gacha drama is nothing but incels crying that games don't have enough self-insert bait, it's pure cancer.
No.9370
>>9368>I do think fujos want to play real games too, not only BL gamesI wanted to like Nu carnival so badly but I gave up on it cause the gameplay was fundamentally uninteresting. If there's ever going to be a BL gacha with interesting gameplay I can only assume it would have to be Infold deciding to make a BL game to complete their 'aimed at women' collection but I doubt they'll actually go for it.
No.9372
>>9352I think the boys look creepy and I hate self-insert shit, but I can't bring myself to hate its existence because it pisses off a large subset of men kek.
>calling fujos misogynists who want them to get "cucked"This is the only part that bothers me about the fans of LADS. I don't understand if they just genuinely believe you can't enjoy fiction without self-inserting or what their problem is. I've also noticed a lot of them getting very defensive if you don't like the way the guys look, which is also very weird.
>>9368>I do think fujos want to play real games too, not only BL gamesI wish we got regular, non-gacha games with BL in them more than anything.
>Gacha games are more extreme now when it comes to self-insertionI used to play a lot of gachas, and this is why I quit. It seems like everyone wants the MC to be a self-insert, which also detracts from whatever story the gacha is trying to tell. I never got into Genshin because it wasn't the type of gacha I like, but I knew it was a bad omen for the genre.
No.9374
>>9371I think a better example of anon's point would be people getting mad about the age gap in "Call Me By Your Name". "Real" LGBT narratives tend to be more uncomfortable and sexually charged (or violent) than tenderqueer shit written by a gender questioning AFAB on tumblr who has never fucked.
>>9372Genshin is the only gacha I like because outside of the occasional bait I like the lore. Even when I take breaks I keep up with the story. It's like getting drip-fed a PS2 JRPG series. I'd much rather have a real game though, you're right.
No.9376
>>9370As someone who has been playing NuC since day one you really aren't missing anything. At this point I log in to do my dailies to get a copy of the only boy I like twice, maybe three times if they are feeling generous, a year.
>Infold deciding to make a BL game to complete their 'aimed at women' collectionCan Infold even do that? They are based in China, doubt they want to anger the CCP…
>>9368>Gacha games are more extreme now when it comes to self-insertion, it's why I wish there could be a joseimuke game without one.At this point I've fully given up hope in wishing for joseimuke gacha with no self insertion, it goes against the state of the current market and none of these companies are willing to take risks. They just copy what's hot at the moment.
No.9377
>>9376>Can Infold even do that? They are based in China, doubt they want to anger the CCPOh yeah, I tend to forget that cause I play Infinity nikki in EN with JP voices so subconsciously I've been thinking of it as a JP game even though it isn't.
No.9380
>>9371Like they're not wrong, but picking fucking Adam the sex pest and rapist was the worst example of this to bring up, and with Enta it was pretty bad optics for him to kiss an unconscious person. I agree that tenderqueers who like gay things only when gay things beyond handholding aren't included are annoying but come on, you could've talked about something like how Shiro from Voltron being an adult gay man was seen as a predatory pedo just because he was an adult and not a soft teenage-coded boy.
No.9381
>>9372> I can't bring myself to hate its existence because it pisses off a large subset of men kek.I don't hate that it exists but I do hate it being the only option for husbando gacha since they hate fujos so much. Men have always hated her romance aimed at women and their misogyny isn't to be defended, but I also can't like these yumes and shoujo fans because they always punch down on fujos.
>I wish we got regular, non-gacha games with BL in them more than anything.I don't even want strict BL, even just a story with husbandos or ones that are friendly to fujos to ship. This is why Hoyo is so popular, the characters may be boring and unable to reach their full potential because the gacha has to move onto the next shilled waifu, but it's very ripe for fandom with the ability to ship in a big open world, or well, it was. But Genshin now pandering more to incels and the self-insert schizos getting louder ruined that story too.
>>9374>It's like getting drip-fed a PS2 JRPG seriesThis is why the game got so popular and it's a shame we don't get rpgs like that anymore either. Very few of them with an anime style that are friendly to fujos around anymore.
>>9376They don't have make a BL game, they could make a game with a mixed cast and no romance. There actually are other games in China that do have mixed casts and are fine with shipbait besides Hoyo, but they aren't high budget open world games or localized into English because they're not from big companies so they don't get noticed. Hoyoverse proves they can fujobait just fine, they even pay for tags on social media. It's just the problem is that their fujobait is a Trojan horse for the waifubait, the devs real passion, to dominate most of the actual games. Once again fujos ability to ship and always be creative can be used to not deliver as much.
No.9382
>>9380Adam wasn't a rapist and I think agreeing with this respectability politics over that is retarded. Even Enta too, I'm sorry but it's baby brain to be this triggered over a preteen boy. I discount your point completely when you talk like a twitter anti.
No.9383
>>9368LADS banned BL fanwork from all of their official communities IIRC, not just the contests. Chinese yumes went turbo homophobe over it, logging on xitter via a VPN just to gloat about how fujos are cooked and they can fuck off with their disgusting gay shit even though many LADS fans said they would be fine with gay artwork of their boyfriends. The yumes even attacked people who posted gay ship artwork on their own personal profile.
>Gacha games are more extreme now when it comes to self-insertionAnd now that Chinese high budget gacha games have killed off literal genres and rely entirely on microtransactions, it's only going to get worse. You don't get AAA JRPG titles anymore because everyone wants to rot their brains with self-insert ML games that throw them a new expensive husbando/waifu every month. Asian fujos settle for scraps all the time so they're given a bit of bait every now and then to lead them on and they'll produce endless amounts of creative fan works for free while getting beaten up by parasitic incels and yumes left and right. I really don't know any other way to work around this than simply focus on original content and support each other.
No.9384
The LADS guys are all so ugly, the yumes can have them
No.9385
>>9383Maybe yumes would loosen up if they got boyfriends irl instead of competing on the internet for the worst social rejects title
No.9386
>>9384Seconding, I don't even get why a fujo would be into it since the guys are ugly and aren't allowed to interact
It's such a bizarre turn from JP otome and galge where everyone's allowed to interact but I guess China thinks their husbando/waifu just interacting with a character who isn't the self insert is cuckoldry kek.
No.9389
>>9385This.
Most of them are so thirsty for romance, they just want to live out their dream relationship through a fantasy self-insert, and in the process, they forget how real relationships actually work.
It's the male equivalent of guys who say 2d girls are better.
No.9390
>>9385>>9389Honestly, I understand the feeling of finding real men unappealing or intimidating. Especially in countries where traditional gender roles are still pushed hard. I just wish they wouldn't take their frustrations out on us.
No.9392
>>9390>I understand the feeling of finding real men unappealing or intimidatingyeah I understand it too, if they didn't act zealous and possesive over fictional boys like it's their actual bfs I wouldn't mind.
No.9395
>>9380>Adam the sex pest and rapist >Enta it was pretty bad optics for him to kiss an unconscious person>teenage-coded boyThis site isn't Tumblr. Nobody's cheering you on for calling BL works
>problematicor whatever - the contrary. You are the epitome of what users of this site hate: a culture warrior on a crusade to stamp out 'bad' elements in the genre. You are the reason why everything in media is turning into safe, boring rehash of past works.
No.9396
>>9395Way to completely go around the point made in this context because you couldn't contain your spergery about muh ass jay dubya cultural warriors reeee. The original post was correct in bringing up an actual problem, but Adam is not a good example of it i.e. healthy gay representation being sidelined since he was aggressively pushing himself on a character that wasn't interested in him and was clearly made from the mold of a hypersexual okama character who can't keep his dick in his pants. Enta's case is much more charitable because shy teenagers who can't express their affection straightforward could do something like he did (kissing a sleeping person) because they don't know how dubious it is, but for what it's worth I never saw people despise him to the same extent they did with Adam. inb4 he acted the way he did because of muh abuse yeah but that still doesn't mean anything here.
No.9411
>>9370I would die happy for a fujobait game with cute gnc boys….
No.9417
>>9390My one problem with them is they call fujos "male centered" and misogynists because we don't self insert. How is wanting to romance a male character somehow less "male centered" than shipping two male characters?
>>9396Not that nonna but I don't give a fuck about "healthy gay rep". I don't think Adam is a "rapist". Sk8 is meant to be a wacky show more like something in the 00s, you can't see Adam literally and his redemption is literally due to the power of friendship. You sound like a purityfag who only wants "wholesome" characters with anxiety while shitting on fujos who like anything else.
No.9423
>>9417Jesus fucking christ will you read the original post here the "realistic gay experiences" was exactly the topic of discussion.
>>9371 No.9424
>>9412Dude is just cringe and over the top. I honestly think the absolute worst is acting like hitting people with his skateboard is a valid move. Wtf is up with that shit it should instantly disqualify you.
No.9429
>>9424I was under the impression that Langa was a minor so in my mind while rapist is a bit extreme it does seem like Adam was being a creep in-universe. I don't actually care from a moral perspective, though.
No.9434
>>9396>healthy gay representation…What happened to this place?
No.9436
>>9435
no. hsr is an afk game.
It takes months, but you can level yourself up and just auto the entire game sans mandatory control. The story is overrated by teenagers with no high literacy experience and genuinely think it has the deepest lore and interesting characters when it's as shallow as a $10 backyard pool.
The men are great, but the chemistry and characterizations are like 80% headcanon and 10% party dialogue quips. I genuinely tried to get into the world and lore but it's insulting if you have an expectation above prose slop
No.9451
>>9434Read the 4chan screenshot the person is responding to holy fuck
>>9371. Nobody is saying gay relations in fiction need to be healthy we all grew up on Loveless she's saying those campy gay rapists and dark BL is not an authentic gay experience. It's escapism for women, it can explore dark ""problematic"" shit and thats not a bad thing.
No.9453
>>9451>it can explore dark ""problematic"" shit and thats not a bad thingSome of us won't even consume hetero or lesbian media even if its sweet and 'unproblematic' tbh.
No.9454
>>9451This cover is a crime…of fashion!
Even in my teens I could never get into this series just because of the cat ears thing.
No.9580
>>9578>grape>censoring the word rapeI can't take their concerns seriously when they refer to something so serious like that. Tiktok and Youtube are really changing the way kids speak and for the worse.
No.9581
>>9578With this logic, every piece of media should make everyone have low self-esteem because we can't compete with how most fictional characters are made out to be.
No.9582
>>9580what pisses me off the most about this is that at some point everyone just collectively decided to censor words like that, i dont know why or when this happend but it just takes every bit of seriousness away from what theyre trying to say, especially if its supposed to be educative
the moment someone censors words like that you know exactly what kind of person they are
No.9583
>>9451And why does this need to be explained with the same language normies use? We all know this.
No.9586
>>9578>ive been a bl fan for almost a year and i cant find bl that doesnt include rapeLiterally how? There's so much wholesome BL out there, even if you exclusively browse places like MRM I've never had any trouble finding cute SFW BL to read when I'm in the mood for it. It's pretty rare for a BL to catch me off guard when it comes to problematic shit, if something features rape or incest or whatever you can usually tell by the synopsis, tags or even cover art honestly. Someone please teach people how to gauge a series before reading it instead of just reading whatever popular manwha their tiktok FYP spoonfeeds them. It reminds me of people on places like mangadex that decide to read a manga literally called shota oni and are unironically shocked that it's a shota manga. Same for the anime in vidrel. Who in their right mind decides to watch Super Lovers and is genuinely blindsided by the age gap? You take a glance at the cover image and you instantly know what you're getting into.
No.9587
>>9586Its more likely that they're into that stuff and just virtue signalling about it. Also, some people consider kabedon or forced kisses on the same level of sexual assault for some reason.
No.9592
>>9580My "favorite" is when they use 1337 speak to talk about a real-life tragedy or atrocity. If I had to type like a fucking gamer to discuss the deaths of someone's loved ones, I just wouldn't talk about the tragedy at that point. I also hate how half of them are supposed to be funny, as that feels like a specific brand of evil. Regardless of what form of censorship you use, it feels so immensely disrespectful to be talking about a person's "$u1c1d3" or "self deletion" or "sewer slide."
>>9586There are literally people who curate lists of wholesome BL. The only way you cannot find wholesome BL is if you're not looking for it. Even for the chronically lazy, you can Google "BL manga without rape." That requires ZERO effort. I genuinely believe they look for content that will make them mad.
No.9593
>>9592It's because people are used to TikTok and Youtube, where you're not allowed to speak properly, else your stuff gets de-monitized or taken down.
No.9594
>>9587This is how I see it as well, they're out there reading Jinx and BJ Alex etc all the time while bitching about how problematic it is. Girl you're on chapter 40 and could've dropped it after the first rape, why are you lying to yourself? They're not real.
No.9595
>>9581>>9578Those are girls with massive self esteem issues who can only enjoy a piece of media if they insert themselves onto fictional characters. It's like a mix between narcissism and sociopathy
No.9598
>>9593I wonder why they didn't use the twitter method. When twitter started autobanning users the moment they said the word "kill" in a post, people just started talking the same way they did when avoiding getting in search results, ex. "k/ill" or "k.ill".
My fave of the unnecessary censorship is the fandom of a series where one of the main characters tries to kill or injure himself every episode he's in, it's his thing. They have an animated discord sticker of him hanging himself with a noose that is free to use in general chat, but every time you share art or discussion of him you have to post "tw: sui" or "tw: sh", under a spoiler tag so they can't even see the word you're warning for, because
seeing the word may be triggering. How do people even filter for this if they don't want to see it? They'd have to include every stupid variation and guess what comical euphemism is next. I could get if someone you know killed themselves and you didn't want to see depictions of it for a while, but hiding the word isn't going to help people make informed decisions about what fanworks they open. It's way easier to hit the spoilered image than the teeny tiny three letter word under spoiler tag.
No.9601
>>9593>else your stuff gets de-monitizedI know this might be controversial, but if you choose to refer to a real person's suicide as a "self vibe check" so you can make money off a video about it, I think that's incredibly tacky at best. Also, there are other ways you can censor your words without resorting to meme phrasing.