/wes/ - Western & Alternative Style

>>1414
AYRT months later lmao sorry I never realized someone replied again to me! I think I just perceived Simon's issues with being a chosen one differently in the first book, and I liked the way the epilogue set up that he was seeking some kind of structure to his life again and then it fell apart in the sequel. I think I also found the rushed way it dealt with Simon finding out [spoiler] his grandma still being alive [/spoiler] sucked since we saw with his relationship with his ex & her family and how much he liked them that being part of a family was important to him. And I agree Baz is better! I like both Simon & Baz a ton but there are definitely bits you can tell that feel so specifically Drarry esp if you read Fangirl first. I don't mean that as an insult btw Drarry drove fujos crazy for a reason and I love the way Rowell has made them her own. I think also I'm due to reread the books as I had read the 2nd and 3rd books years after I had finished Carry On and I had an instinctive hatred for sequels. And the comic is so cute thanks for sharing!

Also, I am once again thinking about AFTG… The Heated Rivalry craze has just reminded me of them and I want to reread the series soooo bad. I like their mind games and the way the author gives both of them complexity unlike *some* other BLs (the way the gay hockey show author talks about the uke and how she wrote him in the sequel is crazyyy you can tell she only thinks the seme is special) and that they're still acerbic and shit-talk each other even after getting together. It does make finding fanfic for them so difficult BECAUSE they aren't really soft in the traditional way with each other.

The Infinite and the Divine is about two ancient alien robot mummies getting in a millennia long slapfight over a mystical artifact and bickering like an old married couple. Overall it's pretty fun but the action scene kind of drag on and you do need to know some 40k lore before hand. I also find it kind of funny that it's the only socially acceptable bl ship in that even a lot of staunch fanboys think they act pretty gay.

>>1757
Apparently it's getting a sequel and the summary on the publisher's website is pretty interesting
>The sequel finds Trazyn in an unusual position, as the opening of the Great Rift presents an opportunity to mend his… strained relationship with an embittered Orikan and uncover the fate of a long lost expedition to the Chaos-corrupted planet of Amenthis. Nothing involving Chaos is ever easy, however, and the horrors they unearth may have far greater consequences than either could possibly predict.

>>1764
I personally have 0 interest in the books but as a result, I love the series. Every single complaint Ive seen has been from book fans but I am not one ergo, it does not bother me.

In fact, if you're a multishipper it's paradise. Despite casting minorities it isn't doing that ugly, spiteful Netflix thing where they find the most unattractive people alive to fill the roles of canonically show stopping people. Everyone is hot, everyone is gay/bi. It's fun.

>>1765
yes, i believe they aged up claudia (which, fair, i guess) and didn't include the romantic elements of her relationship with louis (also fair). what bothers me the most is the fact that the show vampires do have sex, whereas rice's vampires originally typically? did not. there are plenty of sensual or sexual elements in the novels even without sex, including the very act of drinking blood or the dark trick itself, which is almost always described erotically or as a parallel to sex or even rape. it feels to me that change was only made because "good adult TV" has to include literal sex.
>also, Armand *still* is not a ginger twink.
a tragedy imo

>>1766
i've seen a few complaints from non-book readers, but obviously i don't know how valid those complaints are since i haven't watched it. mostly about the current season!
what pairings do you like?

>>1767
Armand/Daniel. Also Armand/Louis.

Having watched the first movie, my only real gripe is Claudoa's age. Maybe because of tv standards they couldn't or wouldn't show a physical small child near sexual situations even if she's a 10,000 year old loli. With Welcome to Derry/It, they do put minors in adult spaces for the horror, however there may just be a line that not even major productions can cross. Even GoT was not exempt since Sansa was played by someone who looked much older than 13 and Daenerys was also aged up.

>>1760
Yes!!! Thank you so much nona!

>>1645
late, but this reminded me that I really need to finish those books, the tension and open affection between the male characters is just delicious. some of my own screenshots in russian, sometimes the english translation doesn't do full justice to the original fujo potential, my own translation:

when they first meet -
>Rogozhin: prince, allow me, the reason you became dear to me (lit. the reason I came to love you). maybe, because I met you in this very minute, when I met him as well (points at Lebedev) but, well, I did not come to love him. come to me, prince. We’ll take off these little boots from you, I’ll dress you in the finest marten coat, I’ll sew you the finest tailcoat, a white waistcoat or any other you like, I’ll stuff your pockets with money, and… we’ll go to Nastasya Filippovna! Will you come or not?
>Myshkin: with great happiness I'll come and I thank you very much for that, that you came to love me. Perhaps even I'll come today if I have the time. Because, I'll tell you frankly, I have come to like you as well, especially when you told me about the diamond pendants. I liked you even before the pendants, although you have a gloomy face.

when Myshkin went to Rogozhin's for the first time -
>Myshkin: I came to comfort you, because you are dear to me as well. I love you very much, Parfyon. and now I'll go and never come back, goodbye.
>Rogozhin: stay a little

>>1762
I so wish I could understand russian so I could read Dostoyevski the way it was meant to be read. I can’t imagine how much nuance was lost in translation…
I hope you enjoy The Idiot anon, and wait till you get to the end. Myshkin and Rogojin get way gayer lol

>>1753
I honestly think the entire 7 is underutilized. The Deep had an arc after getting gill-raped and ousted from the 7 and joined some sort of superhero Scientology to fix his reputation but then he just ended up ruining it again because… the writers wanted to make him a dudebro manosphere incel. Why? I like Deep x Homelander because Deep is probably the only character who doesn't secretly hate Homie and actually wants to be near him, besides Black Noir

Speaking of, horribly underutilized. They develop his character and kill him the same episode, so lazy. Not enough good art of them.

Yeah Butcher x Homelander are decent because they are the same person basically, but one is human and the other a "supe" or basically a weapon. But the show doesn't really delve into it enough and Butcher is annoying to me. Not enough interactions with them that aren't just OI OMELANDAH. Homelander understands Butcher more than Butcher understands Homelander or even himself.

Were there any fujos on the writing team? A handful of fujos would have fixed the shitty writing for sure.

>>1754
This is true, the show in general suffers a lot from character bloat where new characters are introduced but they don't kill off or remove the old ones so they just sit around doing nothing.
Same with plot threads just fizzling out, I actually can't remember if that Scientology thing ever got a conclusion, so weird. Another good example is the "Super Terrorists" in the first season and the release of V to other countries, you'd think that'd come up again, especially as Homelander takes power and America seems like an actual threat but it just doesn't matter after season 2.

>I like Deep x Homelander because Deep is probably the only character who doesn't secretly hate Homie and actually wants to be near him
There a bit in the middle of the show where it felt like he was specifically being played off of A-Train with the Deep wanting to get closer to Homelander and A-Train wanting to get away from him, but while A-Train has a conclusion and grows as a character Deep doesn't. I don't understand why the writers insisted on keeping him so static. This is also kind of reflected in the finale of the show where he dies a completely inconsequential fight with Starlight 500 miles from any of the action. I really think they missed a chance to kill him in the previous episode either saving the drowning person, heroically proving he still did want to be a hero all along, or fucking up and ending up in the water while running away. Both those options would have been a conclusion to the character depending on how they wanted us to feel about him. Alternatively have him die when Homelander is confronted, he could either save Homelander from an attack and die in the process or maybe get fucked up and Homelander chooses not to save him. Sorry autism, but I feel there is so much missed potential.

I totally get where you're coming from with Butcher being a bit annoying though. There's so much whiplash, he's easily the most complicated of "The Boys" themselves but yeah a non-zero amount of his dialogue feels like autopilot. Honestly the moment-to-moment writing of the whole show isn't good but I like almost all the characters in some capacity.

>Speaking of, horribly underutilized. They develop his character and kill him the same episode, so lazy.
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>>1755
The super terrorists and the release of V in other countries was such a build up and then was never addressed ever again despite actually showing Vought as not only an international threat but a global threat that could elevate America as the ultimate hegemony, even moreso than it already is, spear-headed by superheroes and utlimately Homelander as the mascot. Then I suppose we're meant to assume that third world countries now have access to superheroes but it's fine.

I think The Deep is static because he's a schadenfreude character, I like how he doesn't actually change considering so many of the other characters go through corny change of hearts. Your ideas for his demise are way better than him being tossed into the water. Was Starlight trying to spare him?

Butcher could've been deeper if the other Boys played off of him well. They don't really. They go back and forth between not trusting him or wanting to work with him to trusting him within the same episode.
Also why did none of them kill Stan Edgar? Why does he get a pass?

Wasted opportunity to just make this show a harem ecchi about Homelander and co!!!

Why is Vortex characterized like a rapist (or at least a mech with weird kinks) in fics? Is this because of some IDW fuckery?

>>1749
Depends when it was written. If its older (pre 2009), then its because of the Marvel comics. Newer is IDW though.

>>1738
Yeah. I'm keeping off social media but whenever I see a post for bisexuals, I will do my part to boost it because I know it makes the people pushing troonery on characters seethe more.

>>1738
I know one of them is Baxter (And I am celebrating), but who is the other one?

>>1740
Husk. Basically, there was an exclusive trading card released and the preview miscolored his hat as the trans flag colors instead of the pansexual one. It was fixed shortly after. Aidens were so upset over it and it was very funny.

>>1717
Wait. I don't wanna cheat on kyman but I get it

>>1718
Thank you nonna for understanding, but be careful cartters will sneak up on you kek.

I'm considering writing some fanfic for it now but I don't have any ideas. Might upload on both ao3 and then ff.net if I ever do.

>>1717
Not my main ship but I see the appeal, especially the fanfics that center around the Awesom-O episode.

I watched My Beautiful Laundrette (1985) and it was pretty good. It was definitely more like a slice-of-life film and admittedly I looked at spoilers just to make sure it wasn't a sad ending. I sorta regret that and I need to stop looking at spoilers, but I also didn't want to watch a tragic gay movie and the vibes of the first half of the film scared me into thinking it might end badly kek. Omar and Johnny are pretty hot together and their chemistry is palpable from the get-go. Omar's a cutie-pie despite acting reckless/sorta scummy the entire film and I like that Johnny (who is, yes, an early Daniel Day-Lewis) is clearly head-over-heels for him in spite of the shit Omar gets them into. I recommend the movie if you're into more chill, slice-of-life films with somewhat subtle commentary on being gay during the '80s and in the Thatcher era. also, I really like what they do with Tania, Omar's cousin and potential fiancée…

The Cable Guy is male yandere kino with a great 90's soundtrack

>>1708
Big brain nona over here

>>1703
I think the music is pretty good! I've listened to the albums in my spare time over the years. It's pretty hard to pick favourites but the Murmaider tracks are definitely up there for me. And wow lucky, please share how it goes, sounds like it'll be a lot of fun.
And fellow SkwisTok enjoyer, their dynamic is great, love them so much.

>>1703
I saw them last night and it was awesome. Castle Rat and Amon Amarth were both super fun and there were some great songs on the setlist. Plus there was a girl in the crowd handing out banana stickers to people.

>>1704
The Murmaider tracks are timeless! They played it at the show the other night of course, but there were some pretty unexpected songs on the setlist too, like Andromeda and Pull the Plug. It was a lot of fun! The concert was formatted in a way to maximize the audience's immersion, with the musicians not being in the spotlight and all the focus being on the screen behind them. It felt like I'd actually gone to a Dethklok concert, not a Brendon Small concert kek!
Also I think SkwisTok's dynamic is delicious. I love the push and pull they have. I like to imagine them doing fanservice while performing, kind of like how the Rammstein guitarists kiss each other on the mouth during shows, except SkwisTok fuck nasty right on stage.
>>1705
>there was a girl in the crowd handing out banana stickers to people
That's absolutely hilarious! Reminds me of a Korn concert I went to where a girl was dressed up like a corn cob.