No.137
>>135>I really wish more western BL could be published explicitly stating "this is sexual content for female gaze" without having to use diversity marketing so the author doesn't get canceled being female with a sex drive.this. i look for good gay books and i keep running into lgbtqiamogai shit. so tired of it
No.213
>>135Captive Prince really was my jam back in the day. Cut and Run too.
No.221
>>220It's so the fujos won't shit these too, it's a shitty woke move
No.223
>>220related but sorta ot, I had really hoped the success of super-sons would have gotten the western comic industry to get it's shit together but sadly that didn't happen, for the non comicfags here, super-sons was a monthly comic series featuring damien wayne and jon kent(son of superman and lois lane) and their self contained adventures together with in the main DC universe, the series was incredibly popular, out selling even batman titles(which is very rare) it wasn't just the shota fujo aspect that made the series popular, It had so many other factors that appealed to normies like good and consistent art-work, no dumb crossovers every 3 issues, clear story arcs and so with all that you'd think that DC would follow this success by publishing similar titles or even just continuing the series but instead they ended it and aged up jon so you can't have him as a cute kid ever again in the main DC universe, other then a flashback, prequal mini-series or an elseworld story….. sigh, this is why I don't blame anyone for trashing on western comics or being a weeb, comics are entirety dictated by dumb boardroom corporate bastards
No.235
>>234It sucks that there's so many FTM headcanons for dan
No.255
>>241>Tranny flagSomeone edit it out
No.259
>>241man what the fuck is wrong with westoid fujos
No.260
>>259Female masturbation and sexuality are more taboo than being trans is in the west
No.261
>>259can't separate fiction from reality imo
No.263
>>259Idk, we (westoid fujos) used to be pretty chill and normal for the most part when I was growing up. I don’t know what’s going on now, but the kids are not alright.
No.265
>>264shouldn't this be considered OC at that point
No.300
>>299Oh yeah………….. i like this
No.302
>>298I'm sorry I just don't see the appeal of this, maybe its cause I'm a filthy weeb but the characters look like fucking blobs
>>299This is hot though
No.303
>>302Totally understandable opinion to have, but while I won't speak for everyone ITT, the appeal of western stuff isn't the design as far as I'm aware.
Most cartoon characters aren't physically attractive, it's more the personality and dynamic they have with each other.
I mean, shows like South Park, The Simpsons, Rick and Morty, all of them have pretty ugly art-styles imo. Still they have massive fujo audiences and I think that is because people aren't looking at the characters appearance they like them for who the character is.
I'd be interested in anyone else chiming in on this, especially if you're more a fan on the cartoon side of things and your opinion on why shows like South Park attract such a large crowd.
No.305
>>304Yeah Rick x Morty was the hottest (and most hotly debated) thing for a while. People of course like shipping them with alternate universe versions of themselves as well. On tumblr in particular there was a trend of Shipping Rick with Grunkle Stan from Gravity Falls and Morry with Dipper.
Simpsons scene isn't as big and a lot of it revolves around Smithers since he is canonically gay. Burns/Smithers and Moe/Smithers are pretty popular. You also get people who really like Bart and ship him with Milhouse or Sideshow Bob.
No.306
>>305But they are all so fucking ugly and nauseating to look at and the humor is just cringe coomer jokes
No.307
>>306Not that anon but all people are different.
I personally find anime muppets fucking ugly, but I won't stop anyone from liking them.
No.310
>>309I assume she's talking about the Osomatsu sextuplets.
No.311
>>310that I agree with, those mfers are ugly asf
No.312
>>311if i saw one irl i would push it down the stairs
No.316
>>220I don't eat here but there is nothing worse to me than "winning" a confirmed not-straight only to have them not be with the person you ship them with. I honest to god would prefer unconfirmed and single to that. I'm expecting this to happen with a character in World of Warcraft soon and am lowkey dreading it despite no longer playing.
No.324
>>323i am eating so well with the recent tumblr brba revival
No.341
>>135I started reading the books in 2018 and stopped in the middle of the second volume out of sheer laziness. I should read it again from the start someday. At the time it reminded a lot of the fucked up shit you'd find in kink memes so it felt very nostalgic somehow. I know the writer did some comic about fencing and some YA novel but if she or other writers decide to write similar stories aimed at an adult audience I'll try to get back into reading.
No.365
>>208I always liked it, even before that episode
It's kind of nice they picked it for the show, I think it was a good choice since it's always been pretty popular but does not involve any of the main boys
Though I kind of preferred their dynamic better before it was canonized
No.403
>>400>>401>>402cute! I haven't seen any of these before so thank you so much!
No.410
>>404>some of them were from personal websitesThat's the exact kind of fanart I am looking for! Stuff that people posted on their (now defunct) blogs. Booru sites sometimes hosts these since they are pretty hard/rare to find
>>406>Another dated aspect is the presence of Damien/Pip. Still kind of butthurt Pip died and they didn't even have them chilling in Hell togetherI feel ya. Pip was really funny but apparently unpopular amongst fans? which is a shame
Great Expectations was a good episode and I will die on this hill.
I have also noticed that people really don't draw Gregory and Christophe anymore. It seems they where popular around 2009-2011 or at least I have seen lots of fanart of them around this time even though the movie came out in 1999. Fuck, honestly the movie is so good I should rewatch it…
No.411
>>406They don't even show hell anymore, it has so much potential too
I miss the old fandom, it feels like the current fans don't even watch the show since they call everything problematic, I prefer the old autistic ship wars over the twittertard arguments.
>>410Matt and Trey themselves don't like Pip and killed him off so the fans would stop asking about him.
No.412
>>411>Matt and Trey themselves don't like Pip and killed him off Matt and Trey dislike a lot of the early parts of the show in general, which is fair enough I guess. Artists tends to be a lot more harsh towards their own works but still…
It actually happens quite frequently that when I watch an episode that I like I find out that Matt and Trey strongly dislikes that episode lol also the other way around when I dislike and episode they are proud of it. Guess my idea of the show is different than the one of the actual creators
No.418
>>417bless you anon for the art dump. Did the show even have fujo fans when the movie came out lol? Not that I'm going to let that stop me from shipping Kystophe…
No.420
>>419Is it something that would still be possible to find today? I did once manage to find some old South Park fanfics from back when the show was new but none of them where slash. Also they where all written in a script format.
Apparently people thought they could scouted as writers on the show by publishing script based fanfics on the internetI did manage to find one Style fanfic from around 2001 though but that's because the author had reposted it to ao3.
No.422
I have tried watching the south park based on the fan art and I really just don't appeal of it, it feels like something only a male white gen-xer could possibly find funny
No.423
>>422For me it's brain candy. It's good to put on when I want to watch something light. Even the political episodes are pretty shallow imo and doesn't require much thinking. The fanart is just a bonus.
The first seasons humour is kinda absurd and random. It has this odd atmosphere which is very enjoyable. The characters actually behaves like kids and combined with their chibi like design just makes them endearing even though they are kinda fucked up. I would go as far an compare it to something like K-on (just more crude), you get to watch cute looking characters in their daily lives and sometimes they will do something that reminds you of your own childhood. Tbh I don't care much for the BL aspect in this era of the series
aside from Kystophe since they behave so much like kids so it's hard for me to imagine them aged up and in relationships.
The seasons from 5+ gets more grounded but it does start to feel more like a conventional comedy in it's pacing.
There also is the nostalgia aspect. It was really popular in my school back when I was around 11-13. Tbh I found the show super obnoxious back then (and to some degree still do) but I would still occasionally watch it back then.. dunno it's just nostalgic. The show isn't for anyone though.
I only got really into South Park around summer when I noticed all the JP Hetalia artists I follow are into it as well lol. Fanon and canon definitely feels different and I kinda do treat them like two separate things but I enjoy both
No.424
>>422it's a weird american slice of life show, which is why I love the early seasons. It's just kids being kids and experiencing the absurd.
If you're talking the newest seasons, yeah I agree with you.
No.425
>>422To each their own, personally I liked it as a kid and it's almost nostalgic to me despite still running
I like the interactions between the boys, they're cute below the realistic shitty brattiness
It's a bit of an Osomatsu-san situation maybe?
No.426
>>425>It's a bit of an Osomatsu-san situation maybe?I have noticed there is a overlap between Osomatsu, South Park and Hetalia fans in Japan. All 3 franchises does have similar appeal
No.433
I hate that whenever I talk about South Park with people irl I really have to bite my tounge so I don't start fujo sperging. I like the show for more reasons than just BL of course but still it just feels odd that I can't talk about pairings. Sometimes I just think "they don't know that I ship these characters" whenever I talk about South Park, or any other mainstream show for the matter, with people I know irl
>>429It's really funny how they acknowledged their fujo fans. Like, I have seen plenty of Japanese franchises acknowledge their fujo fans and maybe throw in some fanservice once in a while. But to have an American show acknowledge their fujo fans and actually use the word yaoi? Beautiful. South Park also went ahead an made a pairing created by fujos canon which hasn't happen in an anime. Anime writers likes to make subtle nods to their fujo fans but they don't really make any pairings canon.
I can't believe that it's been years since creek became canon it feels like yesterday tbh.
I'm personally kinda neutral on creek but I'm so happy on their shippers behalf. Hope they are living their best lives(*^^*)♡
No.435
>>433>I hate that whenever I talk about South Park with people irl I really have to bite my tounge so I don't start fujo sperging.This. Talking to casual fans can definitely be fun, but it just isn't the same as talking to people in fandom.
Not fujosperging, but I remember this one time when I was a tween. Was watching Tsst with two of my family members. At the time I was fucking obsessed with Dip, so naturally when Damien made his (really quick and almost unnoticeable) cameo, I pointed it out.
>oh look, damien pops up real quick here!>"what?"They looked at me like I had ten heads because they had no idea who the fuck Damien was. It's really dumb, it happened so long ago and it wasn't even that big of a deal, but it still embarrasses me so much whenever I remember it.
No.436
>>435Had something similar happen to me. It isn't related to my fujo interests but I like Simpsons so sometimes when I'm watching an episode with someone I will spontaneous say some random trivia about a background character, a showrunner or the production of an episode and people look at me like I'm insane.
There just aren't many people at my age who watches Simpsons yet alone knows so much about it.
It's kinda embarrassing to like something popular. At least with fantasy and sci fi shows a "nerdy" fanbase is expected so people don't think I'm weird for knowing lots about it.
But when it comes to comedy people don't expect you to know much about it. South Park a least has a younger viewers compared to Simpsons so I'm less embarrassed to admit that I like it… but also I will never admit my fujo tendencies towards South Park…
No.446
>>442I'd personally love having a SP thread on here! I have no problem making one, but I'd like to get the opinions of other SP anons before doing so. What do you all think?
>I wish more cartoons had an active fujo audiences who could churn out content for decades.Me too, nona, me too…
No.447
>>446I wanted to start one but couldn't find a really good picture for OP
Still if you won't make one I will
No.448
>>447I think a picture with a good chunk of the characters who gets yaoi shipped would be good. That or just a creek picture since I feelvlike they are a good representation of the show's yaoi fanbase. Not that the picture is too important good luck nonnie(´ ∀ ` *)
No.463
This is a weird request, but does anyone remember that twitter artist who drew Dracula and Johnny from Hotel Transylvania? I can’t find them anymore. The pictures were usually purple or used purple lineart. I think there was the use of “daddy.”
No.473
>>471HOLY MY
Aren't those two from the short Dexter skits? Or maybe they were a completely seperate animation? I know them! I know they were on Cartoon Network, but from where? I remember something with bees, and the long haired dude getting sacrificed or something… What are their names???
No.475
>>471I just have an issue with shipping of characters that are rather blobs than humanoids, even monsterships make more sense to me
No.476
>>475>blobstf are you on about
No.477
>>475I agree that some stuff like Steven Universe's style makes everyone look shapeless, but "they look like blobs" is a weird response to someone saying they like de Pins' art LOL (specifically the men, the women are in fact blobs).
No.538
>>242>This hurts me nona, please no. I just want normal cute Dan art where he has a normal cute penis.Literally made me laugh out loud.
I agree, a scrote should have his scrote.
No.539
>>537G-man is hot as fuck, I saw a mild resurgence of interest when the VR game came out, but yeah Half-life has the smallest fujo fandom of any Valve game.
No.540
>>539I don't have the hots for him but here's some food for you nonna.
The fujo fandom is small, me thinks, because Alyx is a respectable and prominent character in a series with an already small cast. Most fandoms with strong Fujo lean either have a near non-existent Female cast (TF2 comes to mind) or the Female characters are just complete shit (no Valve games are guilty of this thankfully but so many popular franchises have this issue). Most fanwork creators who played through all of HL2 want to see her kick ass more. Very respectable on Valve's end but my Fujo heart yearns.
G-Man and Gordon have a strange dynamic. G-Man is this besuited monster dude and he has Gordon under his control whenever he desires. He pretends to give Gordon choices about his faith but never actually does. Why Gordon? Who are the aliens G-Man alludes to working with in HL1? Is he not as all powerful as he alludes to being? What would Gordon really think of him if one where to put on the Fujo glasses? If he's more of a uke, would he hate himself for wanting his G-Penis? If he were more of a seme, would he want to dick G-Man down and overpower him with his newfound strength? Can G-Man change his form at will and mess with Gordon's sense of reality? G-Man has no sex drive but is he even aware human sexuality is a thing? Fanfiction is always unpredictable when writing it, but if I were to ever write G-Man/Gordon fic I don't know where I'd begin and where I'd end up.
No.553
>>552Fuck yeah! Blacksad is criminally underrated the art is so expressive, one of the nicest looking comics I've read.
I agree with you about the women element. I know it's meant to replicate old film noirs but its still an annoying trope regardless.
No.555
>>554And wouldn't you know it, after expressing this thought, I went straight to Pixiv and was blessed by this fujo godess
She even drew doujinshi and translated to English, all hail this amazing fujo. Very tempted to create a thread just for dumping Godfather film series art now.
No.556
>>553>Blacksad is criminally underrated the art is so expressive, one of the nicest looking comics I've read.Exactly! A lot of pages and panels have so many amazing little hidden details, that you can look at them for minutes and still find new things you haven't noticed before. The faces are also extremely expressive, I love it!
>I agree with you about the women element. I know it's meant to replicate old film noirs but its still an annoying trope regardless.Good to see I'm not the only one, I've never seen anybody else point that out.
No.558
>>557Forgive me, I know nothing about Critical Role except that it's a DnD podcast but are the players who play the slash pair just not as outgoing as the others or is most of the romance facilitated by a DM who is ignoring them?
I'd argue f/f is more in right now for the /wes/ sphere. Lots of cartoons feature it prominently while m/m content is regulated to passing dialogue.
>And why are the fandoms ok with getting the bare minimum so long as it's canonHonestly I couldn't care less about canon status. Fandoms tend to write the romance better anyway since they're able to take risks studios wouldn't. They can also dedicate more time to development than a piece of media that doesn't have romance as one of its primary genres.
While I find it incredibly frustrating when media originally had plans for canon gay romance that was cut or censored, I've never understood people who dedicate so much time trying to prove their ship is secretly canon.
Most shows can't write good romance if their life depended on it, doubly so if the media is aimed at
No.559
>>558>doubly so if the media is aimed atwho?
No.560
>>559Children.
Whoops, sorry it was 8AM after staying up all night didn't even realize that was incomplete.
No.561
>>557>Why?I think it's a few factors. For some reason modern western fans heavily weigh "rep" over quality. Traditionally f/f has been the safer gay "rep" because it doesn't cut into the male audience or encourage those nasty m/m fetishists.
>>558>couldn't care less about canon status.Same boat. Unpaired ends are better 99% of the time.
No.639
>>626them being canonically gay ruined it.
For most fujos it's more fun if they're not.
No.646
>>645That last page with the cigarette is sexy, which graphic novel?
Always shipped Constantine with Dream of the Endless, but this pairing intrigues me.
No.654
>>651>>653NTA but as fun as the canon tension is I've never been able to fully ship it since I don't think Batman would ever back down on his morals and I don't think Joker would ever reform.
Really like one-sided pining on Jokers part though. He already flirts with Batman enough it's easy to extrapolate that into sincere feelings, especially given how many authors readily admit to writing him as gay.
Is there any particular iteration that made you ship Batjokes, or do you like it equally across all Batman media?
No.655
>>654I mean the actual meta reason Batman won't ever kill the Joker is cause Batman comics sell better then the entire western comics industry and Joker is batman's most popular enemy so he can't die either
No.666
>>665All reasons to ship it kek
No.667
>>665I remember Batjokes being really good/big in that Telltale game.
No.685
>>684I'd be interested but I'm admittedly more a Marvelfag (loved Dan/Ror though). A combined DC/Marvel thread, maybe?
(Also anyone here remember scans_daily?)
No.691
>>686Yeah sure. Though I'd say maybe keep it a superhero general and let other genres gather here so we don't drown them out. …I only read supes.
(I think first post should have a 'reply to pitch your ship with recs for issues/runs' thing)
No.797
>>796The thing I remember about onceler was it seemed that husbandofags and yumes seemed to like him. So if you were almost exclusively into weeaboo or fujoshi content, you would not have seen the onceler a lot. I only saw him a bit, and they were yumejo/self inserters.
No.798
>>796Lmao I had the EXACT experience lately. I've come across some onceler stuff and looked it up, and he was made out to be this big tumblr sexyman of the golden era, and I was like, who? When? I've never seen the guy lol. He sounds like a fun character to ship but afaik there wasn't really anyone to ship him with. He's kinda like the Warden from Superjail. Fun, evil character, but no good ships for him.
No.799
>>796I remember it but also remember blocking the tag/s and that being the end of it haha. A lot of western cartoon/Homestuck artists I followed at the time got into Oncest seemingly overnight so maybe you weren't in the right spaces to see it take over.
>>798>afaik there wasn't really anyone to ship him with.His most popular ship was with different versions of himself!
No.800
>>798Glad I'm not the only one then, I keep seeing people bring it up and I'm just like ??? that was a super big thing? Funny you mention Superjail, it was my only exposure to Once-ler since I used to be big into it and they occasionally got crossover ship art. btw most popular Superjail ship ended up being Warden/Stingray though a few brave souls shipped him with Jared.
>>799Must have been that then, wasn't into Homestuck at all, guess it attracted a certain audience I wasn't a part of. Though this is a testament to just how big Tumblr was in it's prime that people had vastly different experiences with it.
No.801
>>798I googled him too because I never heard of it. Never heard of homestuck either until someone on 4chan complained about it in 2015 or something.
It genuinely makes me wonder how other people's timelines work. I am using tumblr since 2012 and I never came across anything but the fandoms I followed people for. Most of the acc I follow(ed) were topic-centered side-accounts so they never posted anything else and the few that were more general rarely ever mentioned other series, so I experienced a decade of tumblr without ever stumbling upon any of the popular shit.
Same with every other place. On 4chan I only click threads of series I like so I have zero knowledge about the rest.
No.802
>>801Homestuck was BIG I do remember its massive fanbase. You remember Undertale's Tumblr fandom? Basically the same group of people with the same intensity. I tried so many times to get into it since the art was awesome, but the way it's written makes it a chore and it takes way too long for anything to happen.
I kind of get where you're coming from, though I see most of the big fandom content through crossover and cosplay art mainly. I also have the opposite experiences sometimes where I'm like "X was so big back in ___" only for people to have no idea what series I'm talking about.
No.811
>>626Coming back a year later to say I'm happy to see such a burst in gay SP content due to the new Netflix show.
Not done with it yet 4 episodes in, but my expectations were subverted and I'm happy its trying to do something different than retell the same story a forth time. Not as good as the comics, but refreshing.
No.812
>>807>Why'd BillDip get so much traction and not WirtBeast?Probably because OtGW got only 1 season and GF is a long running show, so there's more lore going on/get ideas for shipping.
Also I too, am a Beast x Wirtfag.
No.813
Sorry Idk a better thread for this. Anyone read shousetsu bang*bang stories? I don't normally like OC m/m but some of these older stories have a more fanfic vibe than of published m/m, which is up my alley so far. The newer content may be more, uhh, qweer and progressive, but the older stuff is pretty readable. Their site is
https://www.shousetsubangbang.com/ but I think they archive on livejournal too
No.814
>>813This is taking me back. I vaguely remember a lot of the fic authors I followed in the 00s dabbled or swapped to original m/m only.
http://mchandler.org/ this is the only one I remember off the top of my head (formerly known as "mooncalf/.org") because they were my gateway into SSB*B!
No.815
>>813I wish this thing was still around, and I blame the trannies for it no longer being so.
No.816
>>234 based-est
>>323 based
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anyways here's a drop in a 174 drop bucket of images i feel genuine shame over having on my desktop
No.817
>>816>i feel genuine shame over having on my desktopMe thinking "what's so shameful about danny phant–oh. oh…"
No.819
>>818Hehe I don't even think it's wrong so I hope you don't feel ashamed, but realizing what it was made me feel like I got slapped. ALL FUJOS ARE BASED FUJOS.
No.820
>>816No because why is this actually kind of cute..
No.830
>>792It's out, anybody watching? Episode 4 in particular was pure Huskerdust pandering.
No.831
the new Ted series makes me wish those movies had a fandom. there's a couple ancient fics but I was really disappointed to find out no one really shipped John & Ted.
No.832
>>830I’m watching, I’m not a fan of angel dust though he’s pretty obnoxious.
Good songs all around however.
No.833
>>832Yeah Angel Dust was obnoxious, didn't like him in the pilot and his VA is worse here. But episode 4 greatly improved my opinion of him, he feels less like a walking sex joke. I feel like I should have a ship already because there are so many fanworks and pairings with a ton of content, but no one has enough chemistry right now for my tastes.
>>831As in the Teddy Bear McFarlene movie? I didn't know that was a franchise and not a stand alone film, much less with fanfics and a fandom.
No.834
>>833I agree, Angel Dust is so much cuter for it, I like broken slut characters / sad jokers who are a bit self-aware. I'm more open to HuskerDust now than I was in the past.
Hazbin really struck a nerve I thought died with anime fandom. I've decided to just go on Pixiv and not do any social media searches for Hazbin and it's already improved my experience 2000%. I don't have to pretend obvious women are men, I can just enjoy pretty art and nice doujinshi.
Also, does anyone know where Alastor's human form comes from? I've seen some JP artists draw it consistently.
Also love that the whole JP fanbase seems to have latched onto Alastor being an uke/on the bottom. I'm so used to seeing guys like him being drawn as the top when I just want his ass to get drilled, I feel blessed.
No.835
>>834I'm not sure, I honestly might be a case of a lot of people adapting his design in the same way. By the by I went perusing the Wayback machine to see if it was based on any old art Vizie made and found this old ref-sheet from when he was still planned as a Zoophobia character. It's incredible just how different he is, but the bones are still there. Would be awesome to see more of the deer motif.
Definitely and uke. Hope he gets beat by Vox and/or Valentino later. Characters who seem all-powerful are at their best when they have a "oh shit" moment and and brought down.
No.836
Hazbin hotel hasn't been on my radar since the pilot released back then so it was quite a surprise when I suddenly saw JP fanart on my twitter feed. Maybe I should give it a shot.
No.890
>>816the scary thing is how on-model all of this is.
No.957
>>956I've never heard of this show but the backlighting in this picture is so pretty!
No.958
>>957It's basically like a western BL, would 100% recommend it. It's on Netflix.