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Why is so much otome for consoles, with no PC releases? Nobody in English-speaking countries/Europe gives a fuck about handhelds other than their smartphone. It's so retarded of publishers. It's like they don't want business. Waaaaaaaaaaa, making a port is clearly beyond the abilities of code monkeys that work for localisation companies.

>>8070
Probably because few people in Japan have a PC. Even so, they would get much more overseas sales with a PC port.

Moonchime is releasing this VN at some point in the future. Apparently it doesn't include any romance. Anybody read it?

>>8081
>hate BL with no sex or that the characters are "too much like IRL faggots" i.e. have feelings and defined personalities and how fujos enjoying that have shit taste and aren't ~based~ enough.
Holy shit I recently got into a bunch of arguments because of this. Never encountered it before but suddenly(?) there seems to be some subculture in the fujo fandom that hates on every nuanced character and masculine 2D man. I like both and happened to encounter this type of fujos on image boards and discords now. They basically called me out for supporting real men or something because I don't fap to 6 year old shota and multi-colored twinks.

I feel like almost everybody I am talking to nowadays was an angry incel from 4chan because these people say the exact same shit about anime women that are too mature, realistic or "3DPD-like" and calling everybody liking them a "normalfag that hates anime and manga".

I don't even care about "fujo" as a label. I am a fujo based on the things I draw and enjoy but tbh I hate how obsessed everybody is with labeling nowadays. To a point at which they even try to stigmatize fans that enjoyed a thing for 20+ years as fakers. Bitches I was already drawing yaoi of Satan when you weren't even born yet.
Just let me enjoy my ugly 2D ojisan, dammit.

Is Bravern like a T&B situation where it's decently liked in Japan but non-existent to English viewers? I guess I'm not surprised because it's two beefy dudes in a mecha series but pretty sad considering how homo it is.

I was thinking about the state of fujos today and I honestly hate how dominant Hoyoshit pairings are, considering how bland they tend to be. I remember as a (pre)teen there was a variety of fujobait series you could cycle through like K, Servamp, Yowapeda, etc. Everything seems lame now but I might just be romanticizing it.

>>8087
I wouldn't say non-existent since there are definitely western fans, but I think the men being a bit more muscular/mature is driving away younger people who probably would have enjoyed the story like you said. Unfortunately my bara acquaintances are the only people I know into it, no fujos.

Hoyo is "free" and is designed to print money so it's no wonder it is a dominating presence but I still see variety under the surface. Off the top of my head for 2020 fandoms: Sk8 as another nonna mentioned in the anime thread has a lot of different body types and ages so it's managed to capture a wide swath of different fans, Geass and One Piece both saw a bit of a revival due to new iterations. Trigun's remake series brought with it a new set of incest fans and revitalized the older fandom, and I don't watch new Shonen anymore but I know that BnHA still has a shipping fandom as do works like Jujutsu Kaisen and Mashle. I do think there's some rose-tintedness on your part since the big shipping fandoms from my preteen days were just the big three SJs Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece and then Clamp series. People always gravitate to what's popular and accessible, and I'm sure if mobile games had been a thing in 2008 that's what would have been big as well.

>>8062
Pui Pui Molcar. You can watch both seasons in an hour. If you want more cute shorts we've also had Chiikawa (subs are posted on /wsg/ every Tues and Thurs, you can catch up with what's on nyaa), Odekake Koazame, and Yoru wa Neko Issho.
>>8067
Seconding Fairy Ranmaru, Kyuushi, Atarashii Joushi, Migi to Dali, REVENGER (though that final ep, good lord), Undead Girl Murder Farce. Was not pleased with Sankaku Mado's adaptation quality, the relationship between the leads is far more fun in the manga but be aware there's a major het pair too.

Throwing in High Card because the leads are very shippable and even though the writing falls apart by the end, the revelations in S2 are batshit homo. There's no other way to summarize what goes down other than "wow pretty gay". Also Onmyouji, which FINALLY got an anime adaptation after decades of live action movies and TV specials, but Netflix gave it all the budget of a vanilla ice cream that contains no real vanilla and put rainbow jimmies on top hoping we'd be appeased. Well Seimei and Hiromasa are meant for each other and they even slipped in Seimei turning up at various men's bedsides so I was happy despite Douman getting genderbent for some reason. I'm guessing someone in production staff demanded more boobs in a period setting where everyone would be covered up. Thankfully she seems to ship the leads, so it's more like genderbending to prevent SeimeiDouman shippers getting in Hiromasa's way (if they even exist).

Shows with little homo appeal I'd rec include Akiba Maid Wars (PA Works doing yakuza mob movie parodies with cute maids), Kusuriya no Hitorigoto (poison loving girl in old China ends up solving mysteries in the palace harem), Paripi Koumei (famous Chinese general takes on Japan's nightclub scene and promises to make a girl a star), and Chimimo (a family of three sisters play host to Suwabe oni/namahage and his cute minions, who are supposed to be researching how better to torture modern humans in hell). I also really liked Tsukimichi and Shinigami Bocchan but those are an isekai and a CG het romcom so your mileage will vary.

I wrote too much for one post, teheh.

>>8075
Cont.

Do you like trash? Trash with singing? Visual Prison happened, and it was a complete dumpster fire, but it's a rare breed of shameless all male dumpster fire we don't get so often. About vampires who idol band sing while fighting for moon wishes or something, and there's a cat (nobody knows why there's a cat). Gekkan Mousou Kagaku tried taking its title with added giant neon furries and a conspiracy theory archeology theme, but was kind of lacking even in the weirdness department. And then there's Kawagoe Boys Sing, where the boys did sing, and the animation did fall apart, and there's a honey badger (nobody knows why there's a honey badger), but the guys were remarkably likeable and it even gently suggested ships.

Lastly, for children's shows there was a Muteking reboot that had surprise homo between the hero and a space cat-octopus, despite the hero's motivation being a girl he likes.

Starting Bungou since it keeps toping the AO3 charts and I'm jealous of the fans who are eating well. lol I like reading classics and I know some western authors are featured in the series so I'm curious how the writers I like like Edgar Allen Poe and Mark Twain will be treated.

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Cp in the movie night thread

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>>6832
>we're just as male as any other gay guy
Reminds me of that one pasta image of a tranny going to a gay bear party and nobody wanting to fuck her kek

>>6841
Isn't it because they're fetishizing transness and making a thing out of being kawaii soft pink uwu gay boys?

>>6847
That sounds incredibly funny. Honestly it's the best when they fight amongst each other because what will they do? Call each other bigots for not wanting to touch someone outside their orientation?

>>6844
It's not like interesting men are never ruined by a romantic plot, either. Any character with motivations teased as complex, but especially villains or antiheroes, almost always fall flat when it turns out they're doing everything because of their dead love interest.
And for fujos, if your ship is nuked irreparably by het then you'll probably cut your losses and move on.
I've never seen FranXX but that's definitely a waste of a good design.

>>6845
Yeah this is why I usually prefer non-canon yaoi and rather have pandering and hinting. Most people are not only bad at writing romance, the romance will almost always turn into the central aspect of the characters in love and turn them to shit. Especially if they act all lovey dovey afterwards and forget all of their earlier motivations.

>>6837
There are fans who love analyzing interesting female characters and those who love 'evil' or not morally perfect female characters that are there to babysit the boys like 999% of the time.
The thing is fandom is inherently selfish, so if there is a female character that is romantically paired with boy mc she will be self inserted as, and treated as perfect.
Notice this never happens in fandoms where there is no romance or shipping at all.

>>8072
Yeah not really the same experience as that anon you linked, but I have Asperger's and in highschool I considered myself asexual and only into 2D, 10 years later and now I have a BF and consider myself straight. I'm not going to say being asexual or whatnot doesn't exist, but when you're a 17 year old teen who has never dated and spends most of your time online the label is easy to attach yourself to.

Really focusing on orientation and relationships are a bit of a trap, you either like something or you don't and I think that should be the end of it. A lot of people put way too much of their self-worth into relationship status, or in terms of anime/manga fandom their purity status with regards to their waifu/husbando but in the long run it must hurt their perception of self and who you are as an individual.

>>8057
Unrelated to what everyone else has been adding but I thought I'd mention that cuteness aggression seems to contribute to people applying sexual actions to cute things. I think cuteness aggression with fictional characters extends to general infatuation, when you feel a burst of emotion towards an intangible thing and you just want to squish and squeeze them and let all that energy out. However, aside from them not being real, in fantasy squeezing your fave until they break is destructive and unpleasant and doesn't go anywhere, so some people translate the sensation into "I want his ass pounded until he's in a state of delirium and can't form words". An orgasm analogy gives climax and release to the feeling, and a presumably nice time to the character.

To me this is a stage removed from finding something sexy and wanting sexual content of it for the sake of sexual gratification. It's a sort of mental outburst. It can make people look absolutely nuts and depraved, but it stems from more than just cocklust. I think even asexuals I've spoken to in fandoms have gone through this, they like a character a lot and then they write the most ass slapping BDSM fic of them. It's expressing the crescendo of feeling in ways that just cuddling and sharing a sundae can't, and it's easier to write than fight choreography.

>>8060
And then this post gives me whiplash. I love cute animal characters and I've had so many run ins when doodling them in fandoms and discovering everyone else present is there to fuck the animals. I can't fucking stand it with some series. I give some leeway when it's animal versions of a ship that I'm fine with fucking as humans, because many artists make cute jokes about the fact the dogs are prone to humping or had puppies, but there's still a limit. When people in a fandom assume any and all sfw depictions of a cute animal are inherently sexual or "moments before mob rape", I'm so fucking bewildered indignant about it. I even know when it's coming in a fandom and I'll still get funny with them for it because it doesn't make sense to me.

The worst part is I find it really cute when they draw the bumhole on small animals and make the tummy pinkish. It makes me think how warm and soft the little thing is. You know, the sensatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>8074
I can relate to the cuteness aggression lol, though it only applies to dudes I am into, not characters that are meant to be cute. But I guess it's related to autism or something. I just don't feel anything with kids, neither in real life nor shota/loli in fiction so I don't consider them cute even though they are mean to be.
Agree about zoophilia, it's just as alien to me as the general attraction to kids or anything that lacks sexual traits (related to human gender I mean). Sometimes I am baffled to what abstract shit anons on /co/ are allegedly fapping to. But then again they would probably say the same about me if I showed them some of the dudes I am reading porn of lol

>>4136
I've already seen LOGH. Thanks for the Ai no Kusabi rec though!

Okay, hard mode. Rec me a BL Japanese novel/light novel that is actually written like it's not literature for retards (like most LNs). It 1) has to be longer than 1 volume; 2) can't have an anime adaptation; 3) is not a (middle)highschool story; 4) Yukio Mishima doesn't count.

If anyone wants a collection of dysfunctional somwtimes fucked up stories Stroboscope is pretty interesting but uneven.

https://mangadex.org/title/944d89ce-55ba-47fe-aa28-b0d8cb32a17d/stroboscope

>>1224
I mean you can't blame them for not thematizing sexual organs on their official accounts. That aside the canon stance should be obvious as they shouldn't have sexual organs to begin with and everybody knows this. But it never stopped people from headcanoning everybody having a dick regardless. I fear it would be hard telling people that TFs had no sexual organs but that dick was still more canon than them being herms, you can either deny both or be silent on the topic.

I like dicks so I usually image the sex to involve them, opposed to be cable only. To be honest most herm fics I read described the hole so vaguely that I just imagine the gay hole when the text says "valve".

>>1225
unfortunately, not on my end.

I've been a fan of the Prime characters and valve is absolutely a vagina. A lot of artists will draw the clit, labia, every single fold as though it were a human vagina, and often there isn't spike stimulation. So it's just the top (male) and bottom (Starscream, Soundwave, Knock Out) with a graphic pussy. It would be different if the valve was like an actual valve but no. I have yet to find or read versions of the characters I could believe are two males.

I'll start:
>what are your favourite h/c scenarios?
My favourite is when a character becomes very delirious from a serious sickness/injury and has to be soothed and calmed down, and the other character has to take care of them and nurse them back to health.

>What type of characters do you love to see suffering?
I don't like hurting wholesome sunshine boys, the best victim is an egotistical asshole. It's great seeing such characters who hate to be weak being forced to be vulnerable in a state of pain. Especially when they suffer so much they break and do a personality 180 to become pitiful and they have to slowly build themselves back up again with the help of their love interest.

>What relationship dynamic do you like best?
I like it when there is a power imbalance between the hurt person and the comforter- like master/ servant, boss/subordinate,etc It can go either way- the boss has to be comforted by the subordinate and feels ashamed to be taken care of by someone 'lesser' than him, or the other way around where the subordinate is suprised and embarassed to be looked after and helped by their superior who they didn't expect to care about them. In the end,their relationship ends up changing and becoming more equal due to the incident.

>What are your favourite h/c scenarios?
Fanfic only abuser x victim ships. I'm a huge fan of manipulative men in general. Not a fan of seeing it much in canon because few series make it a point to actually have dynamics like this that aren't trying to be an after school special
>What type of characters do you love to see suffering the most?
Strong characters. Specifically characters who constantly put on a face and aren't actually bad at what they do. Like Shouto Todoroki is actually insanely good at what he does. But I do love throwing him into a blender. Pic related are from Tales of Graces and I recall just reading a ton of fanfic of them that ignores the end of the game.
>What relationship dynamic do you like best in h/c content?
Stockholm Syndrome will always, always be the best. To me anyways.

Generally the first fanfic I'll read. Huge fan of blackmail so damaging there's no way for that person to actually recover. Not so much a fan when the lack of comfort outweighs the hurt dished out all the time. At that point it's simply torture porn without end and I find that fucking boring, just as much as I find far too much fluff and cuddles for comfort with no hurt so much more boring

>What are your favourite h/c scenarios?
Rape recovery. Not so much focusing on the assault itself, but the character having their life seeminly ruined, withdrawing, and the othe party reaching out and going out of the way to help is the perfect h/c imo.

>What type of characters do you love to see
Every character suffering in their own way is great, but my favorite ones are comic relief characters who tend to be the butt of the joke. Especially since it naturally lends itself to grim dark suicidal thoughts since they'd perceive the rest of the cast to hate them, until the other half of the ship let's them know that they are valued.

>What relationship dynamic do you like best in h/c content?
Mutually beneficial h/c, I love when one character is suffering and is getting help, but then it's revealed the character who is giving the comfort is just as broken in another way so they are also healed through the interaction.

>Any h/c scenes from media which you enjoyed?
I would need to think on it, I mainly engage with h/c though fanfiction so I'm not sure if any official media has ever scratched the same itch.

>>4256
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>>4257
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>>4256
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>>6811
Sideburns are so, so hot, shame they aren't more popular.
>Zenigata/Lupin
Great taste

>>6811
I feel you. I love sideburns, goatees and/or thick eyebrows for the same reason but they're criminally rare. Mature faces are inherently tied to sexual attraction for me so their presence or absence largely determines whether I get into a character or not.

I would also say that broader mouths are part of it. It's a trait Lupin shares as well. Image your pic but with the classic small "-" mouth and he leaves a whole different impression. Some of these traits help making faces more expressive and expressiveness is another essential part of character design IMO.

>>6823
I didn't think about that broad mouth point but you're right it is definitely a component of likable character. Not totally cartoon-y but large enough for a toothy grin.

>>4307
Lamias are under-rated, the idea of one who curls themselves up when they're shy or embarrassed around another boy is very cute.

Thoughts on Analog horror kun? (I actually don't know if he's meant to be that, but he looks like it)

>>4312
Slenderman/12 year old girl might develop a crush core.

>>4300
Sorry that makes more sense. I guess I should have formulated my post differently, since I was talking about the usage of aroace in general save for the latter part of my post.
I am retarded and never read that series so I didn't know. I guess in that case her post does make sense, assuming that the aroace part refers to the alien alone and the homo part to the two others. I am not reading it so I don't know if that's what she says or if she implies that the other character was ace as well.

Besides the reasons I already mentioned an issue I have with aceness in fiction is that it always happens to gay characters, see >>4302. I haven't heard of a het series with this yet. A series where the character remained ace I mean.

>>4304
I wrote that when I was going to bed so I kinda forgot people use it for more than dumb discourse oops. But yeah, if you use it to post art and/or to expand your brand then there's no issue with that. This mangaka however using it to call her work "aroace" and to say her work is not "queer baiting" is wild, I dunno if she was always like this but the Twitter vermin got to her very quickly.

>>4306
>assuming that the aroace part refers to the alien alone and the homo part to the two others
I'm pretty sure this is what it's about because she said the eldritch guy can't feel love or something.
Aroace is a weird term to use here, but she probably picked it up from twitter discoursers.