No.3380
My attention span is kinda fucked so right now I haven't gotten to reading the manga yet and I'm an anime only, though I don't mind seeing manga spoilers so I know manga stuff. So far book of the atlantic is my favourite arc but from the snippets I've seen I can easily imagine that the green witch arc will overtake it. When I watched all the anime I watched the noncanon stuff too and while I understand why manga readers disliked it I enjoyed the anime original content just from an entertainment point of view cause it got insane at times. It's a relic from a different time and I can vibe with that. I could see the queen becoming the final villain cause the anime original content foreshadowed different manga plot points too.
No.3381
Favourite arcs would be (sorry I can't remember all the names the fandom uses for them)the Noah's ark circus arc, the ship arc and the private school one.
>>3379Alois was the best thing about season 2, I kept rooting for him. You're right in saying that his chaotic behaviour fits better for someone who's been abused, I've often felt like Ciel was way too perfect despite all the shit that happens in Kuroshitsuji (and I my favourite aspect of the green witch arc was getting to see him being more fragile).
No.3384
>>3381I'm excited for the green witch arc too! I couldn't agree with you more, Ciel's best moments are when he's vulnerable. He comes of as too composed and mentally strong for what he's gone through so it's nice to see his walls break from time to time.
No.3386
>>3380You make some good points. I can't be mad about the anime being so different. The manga was not as advanced, so the anime did not have a lot of material to work with. I like to think of season 2 as it's own thing. It's story line is interesting to me, whether was canonical or not.
No.3387
>>3378>What's your speculations for the end of the manga?Everybody lives happily ever after. I somehow doubt it will ever end.
>>3379>I know season 2 is widely dislikedBy whom?
No.3388
At this point I just suffer from stockholm syndrome and only keep reading the manga just to see if I was right all along and if Undertaker is Cedric, so Ciel's grandfather. I started reading the manga in high school and it's insane that it's still not over yet. But last time I checked the next arc will be the last one?
No.3394
>>3393The fact that someone appears just to top Sebastian makes me want to read the manga and watch all the animes. Godspeed to you, nona.
No.3395
>>3393I always imagined wolfram to be blond but I guess it makes sense for him to have gray hair (you know, like a wolf).
Also apparently he's going to be voiced by the same seiyuu who voices the wolf from beastars, which I find very hilarious for how on the nose it is.
No.3398
>>3397>would the fans be happyi think it'd be a bit of a cop-out and i'm not sure a happy ending would fit this series.
at the same time, i feel like the only type of ending that would satisfy me is one where its vaguely implied that theres more between sebaciel, in a way where you can interpret them romantically if you want but it's not overly clear, and they somehow stay together lmao so i'm conflicted
No.3402
>>3395Kek that is perfect casting
>>3397>Would the fans be happy if he somehow got out of it?I think most fan are hoping for the two to stay together in some way.
Personally, the only thing I want in the end is to see Sebastian get Ciel's soul. He's the only one I care about being happy in the end.
No.3403
I've gone back and forth so many times on how I want the manga to end, I just don't know. All things considered it's probably true that a tragic ending makes the most sense. All I know for sure is that if Yana is still into Sebaciel I want her to add a scene that antis can't cope their way out of. I want to see the meltdown cause it'd be funny.
No.3404
>>3403I expect a tragic or bittersweet ending. Bittersweet as in "I reached my goal and avenged
my brother and myself and can die with no regret" but there are so many mysteries that I mostly worry about how the ending will happen. I'd be mad if some questions aren't answered even after the end of the manga, I started reading it when I was in high school and this shit is still not over yet so Yana better deliver a satisfying conclusion regardless of whether Ciel lives or dies.
No.3406
>>3405That's amazing. Bless her.
No.3407
>>3405I wish she didn't delete her old blog…
No.3414
>>3405God, she is so perfect. She literally our queen.
No.3415
>>3408>so what is causing more acceptance compared to the absolute moral panic shitshow of the late 2010s?I didn't notice much of a panic in the late 2010's. Most of the craziness I've seen came after the fourth season aired earlier this year.
Strictly speaking from the western side of the fandom, it looks like most of the acceptance is brought on by og fans just not succumbing to their anti bullshit, or calling them out on watching "problematic" media in the first place. I've seen lots of examples of this on tumblr and pinterest. Though it might just be the site's culture, reddit is still very much a cesspool of anti thought. I have no idea what the fandoms on twitter, bluesky, or tiktok are like. It's crazy that some people will just enter a 16 year old fandom and think that they can bully others and change things. It makes me happy to see that at least some of the og fans are standing their ground.
No.3506
>What's your speculations for the end of the manga?
I just have this feeling Ciel will die and I hate it.
No.3507
>>3506I'm expecting a fake-out death tbh.
No.3508
>>3507Also likely. In some way or another, Ciel probably won't be able to show his face to the public anymore LOL
No.3517
>What's your speculations for the end of the manga?
I do think that Ciel will reach his goal but at the cost of everyone he knows. rip Snake and Agni I have a feeling that he will lose (sacrifice) a great deal of the people closest to him. The servants and probably even Lizzy will realize that they've traded their loyalty and love just to be used as pawns. The ending will be bloody and sad and while Ciel truly begins to come to terms with his actions, his soul will be snatch away. Sebastian, business as always, takes his payment.
Honestly, I want the craziest, saddest, most twisted ending possible. I've been with this series for years, I feel like it just needs a big dramatic conclusion.
No.3583
>>3405I took a look at her insta and it's so cute. I love seeing her enjoy herself with her plushies. I hope she enjoys the rest of her vacation.
I'm chuckling at the comment of her posts, tho, people are arguing over her being a sebasciel shipper. Like of course she is, it's so obvious. Shippers have been taking travel pics with their ship merch/figs/plushies for decades. There are so many blogs that do the same. I swear antis just love to act like they're clueless. I could never understand them.
Also the cutest things are her cats. Of course she has a black and grey one,lol. The grey one also has a little blue ribbon, so obvious. That is just so cute. Pics attached
No.3584
>>3517> I want the craziest, saddest, most twisted ending possibleSeconding this. I want everyone involved to be miserable forever. To be honest I can't even imagine a happy ending for this story. It just doesn't work.
>>3583I had no idea she had cats! They're so adorable! And their fur colour being the same as sebaciel's hair colour; she's not even trying to hide it anymore kek that madwoman.
No.3585
>>3517>>3584Agreed that I want the ending to be crazy. It's the only way I can see the story ending.
Additionally, I'm hoping we get a moment where Sebastian's hunger gets the best of him. It's been brought up in the story a couple of times that he's starving, but keeps himself controlled. I hope those moments were some kind of foreshadowing. He's always so perfect and composed, I just want to see a wrench thrown into the plot and see his perfect mask ripped away.
No.3586
>>3585I think it would be funny if he didn't want to eat Ciel but instinct took over.
No.3587
>>3586Yes! Would love to see him acting erratically and lose control. I want to see him try to fight his insticts and fail. Just one moment he's pouring tea, and the next, trying to hide a growl or accidentally shape-shifts, or loses concentration in some goofy way.
No.3589
>>3586Oh my god that would be so perfect and dramatic
No.3590
>>3586It could happen, right? His whole thing is how he wants to eat Ciel's soul because he's so mentally fucked up
or maybe because he could be related to Undertaker, who knows it would taste good, as opposed to eating other souls that would just taste normal. Maybe Sebastian is developing a supernatural eating disorder without realizing it.