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 No.3378[View All]

Thread to discuss all things Kuro.
>Which arc is your favorite?
>What's your speculations for the end of the manga?
>How do you feel about the noncanon episodes/season?
>When will this hiatus finally end?
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 No.4562

>>4561
Yeah absolutely, I wish they continued having an adult Ciel.
It was always odd to me that the earlier plays used child actors at all, considering Kuros subject nature and viewer rating. I believe the series is 18+ in Japan.

 No.4563

>>4549
Thank you so much for sharing this, I can't believe they're only up for a day at a time! ;__; I wish I'd caught the circus musical, but I've found someone on bilibili has uploaded all of them in slightly fuzzy quality, and at least I can replay Druitt's stupid song over and over. The projections during Lizzie's and the beginner butler flashback songs were really good, I wonder how they marked the places for the actors to line up that well.

 No.4565

>>4560
>>4563
Oh wow they took it down really fast. I did find a Google Drive with all of the kuromyus, though. It also includes instructions for adding eng (if needed) subtitle! I'm not sure if it works with all videoplayers, but I used the VCL player and it works.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1OBF_EzEux7cu7wXIbxfSVA59ZM3bBDcc?pli=1

 No.4574

Secret of the Public School musical is being streamed now.
>>4565
Thanks for sharing nonna! I need to watch the rest.

 No.4578

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>>4574 >>4565
Thank you!! I love this play so muuuuuch!! It has the cutest interactions. I do feel like the play having an adult Ciel allowed them to have a cutesy shipping moment. Too bad they didn't continue.

 No.4579

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>>4578
It's so silly haha

 No.4580

>>4578
I loved this scene so much, it was so goofy!
Sebastian as a character in general seems to get a lot sillier from the luxury liner arc onward. I really enjoy how human he's become over the years and I can't wait for it to come back later and bite him in the ass as a weakness.

 No.4581

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>>4574
Thank you again! I almost forgot to check yesterday, even with a nice download in my pocket the 1080p with google's attempt at autotranslation is an experience I could not miss. Good lord I love shit subs with randomly censored words. The mess when the cricketing started was something to behold as well, at some point it forgot cricket was a word and started spamming crikey and krikekriketokrike, and most "yes my lord" got turned into JESUS MILO!

The teaser at the end was such a mood killer though. Why on earth would they return to child actors for that arc? Admittedly I shouldn't have been giggling at how old and tired Ciel looked in Sebastian's arms in this one (and his ear is so flushed in pink compared to the pale makeup on his face), but at least he got to lean into his ear and show leg! The child actors were never allowed to show as much skin or linger on shippy scenes. The staging for Green Witch has potential to be so much more varied and interesting than Public School, so it won't be a complete loss, but I don't understand why they wouldn't outright switch to an adult Ciel actor so they don't have to keep finding new kids and altering things to be safer for them.

 No.4582

>>4581
Oh lord, those captions are hilarious! Honestly, I didn't even know you could add translated captions.

Yes, it's such a weird move to go back to child actors, especially for the Green Witch Arc. I can already feel myself cringing over the scenes with Sieglinde. What were they thinking?

 No.4587

>>4581
>>4582
Don't quote me on this but I believe the reason they didn't cast a child for the public school musical was because of covid. Because I guess children would be more vulnerable to the virus maybe?
Either way, I liked the adult actor they chose for Ciel. He's such a cute manlet I wish they'd bring him back :(

 No.4588

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>>4580
It's such a sweet progression. And you’re right, it's going to make everything so messy and painful! As much as I like a happy ending, I just really want to see that drama.

 No.4604

One of my absolute favorite Kuromyu moments was from The Most Beautiful Death in the World. Sebastian singing a tragic love song for Undie will never fail to crack me up and make me scream.

 No.4634

>>4604
Anon who do you think would top between Sebastian and Undertaker? I like to imagine Seb bottoming for Undertaker in a bad-ending type scenario, where he loses in a fight to Undertaker. Like in the luxury liner arc where he got pierced by the death scythe. That was some nice penetration imagery right there lol.

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>>4634
Oh definitely, Undertaker tops. That scene in the Luxury Liner arc was so hot. Sebastian was so easily overpowered.

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Ciel showing off his wife (new chapter out nonitas~)

 No.4657

>>4656
Sebastian seemed so happy to sit at the same table as his bocchan ♥
Btw nonna what do you think the deal with Modri Vladis is? Was he actually talking to god or do you think he's another schizo like the loli that stabbed Bard?

 No.4658

>>4657
I'm honestly so excited to see them sit together and eat. It feels so out if place for Sebastian. I wonder how he'll handle it.

Yes, I'm so curious about Vladis! I had to go back and reread the Layla chapter. It looks like they're going through the same weird behavior. It seems like they have two/multiple souls inside of one? It looked like Layla let someone take over her body to fight Ronald. But I'm just speculating. Kuro can be hard to speculate about lol. But I love how chaotic the storyline is.

What are your thoughts about the recent chapter and Vladis, nonnie?

 No.4660

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>>4656
Sebastian looks so good with this hair change!

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>>4658
I don't know nonna tbh I was expecting Vladis to be a character we've already seen in the past, with the way yana kept his face hidden for a couple of chapters. I thought he was going to be Joker or another member of the circus kek but Sebastian not recognizing him means he is legitimately a new character, so it is difficult to speculate what his deal is. I really wanna know why he cuts his wrists though. If he is a bizarre doll it doesn't make any sense for him to waste the precious blood that he has…
The plot has thickened so much now that our main boys are back in action kek!

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>>4663
Same, I think we may see some more of the circus troupe in the future. It's also been on my radar since Doll returned.
There's so many mysteries, so many unanswered questions. I'm excited for the next chapter!

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>>4656
What did Sebastian do to him???

 No.4705

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Kuro chapter update! We got the cutest picture of Sebastian taking a bite. His little fangs sticking out is adorable. I just wish we could have seen more of him eating.

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>>4705
Speaking of fangs, I just noticed Vladis has them too. I wonder if it's a stylistic choice or if it has a deeper significance…

 No.4713

>>4705
I can't believe we got to the smoking room and didn't get to see Ciel throwing up from an asthmatic fit…

 No.4714

>>4707
Oh, good catch! I didn't notice that either! So maybe he's a demon? Or just a huge demon fanboy?

 No.4723

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I love this new official art from Yana's twitter.

 No.4724

>>4723
I can't believe we're already at the 19th anniversary. Oh how the time flies~

 No.4726

>>4723
What do you mean 19th anniversary?!

 No.4727

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>>4726
Not op, but Kuro has been going strong since 2006! I'm actually so excited for when it reaches the 20th anniversary. If Yana plans things right, she may be able to end the series by then. I also would love it if they did a special bitter rabbit, like what they did for the 10th and 15th anniversary.

 No.4730

>>4727
>2006 was 19 years ago
>1st season of Black Butler started 17 years ago
>I've been a Black Butler fan for half of my life if not more
I'm going to throw up.

 No.4731

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>>4730
It's okay fellow oldfag, we're in this together~ Don't regret your years.

 No.4732

I haven't read Kuro since the end of the Circus arc… or maybe the zombie Titanic, whichever came later. Honestly, I thought it had ended. Nonas, do I have time to get up to speed before the 20th anniversary?

 No.4733

>>4732
You can very easily re-read the entire manga until the next anniversary. Its publication became way slower a few years ago because Yana Toboso is also working on Twisted Wonderland at the same time, and she took a long break until just a few months ago. We're in the final arc right now but it barely started.

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It have been so dry lately… I was actually really disappointed that there wasn't a kuro chapter for October. I can't wait for the new to come out in next few days!

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THESE COVERS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL

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>>5058
HOly shit! Is it Christmas already?? Both of the twins on the same cover is something I thought I wouldn't see for a very long time! They're so damn cute with their matching outfits!! I also see the holes in R!Ciel's stockings, Yana you incorrigible freak…
Volume 35 is also going to have Theo on the cover apparently. He's very moe, even if he is a bootleg version of Ciel.

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Been looking at Ciel figurines and it seems like the recent ones I can find in stock/preorder on figurine sites are based on school arc outfit. I'm not interested in this costume but I hope that means that in the future we'll get a variant of him in the Emerald witch dress.

 No.5227

>>5092
Incredible pant creases!

 No.5251

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This one looks real nice. It's very tempting though I'm not familiar with this company. https://weareanimecollectors.com/products/-pre-sale-1-5-robin-ciel-black-butler-weare-a-design-x-blover2021

 No.5255

>>5251
He's super adorable but his hat is missing the black rim that goes around the brim. Also too bad there's no naked alternative version like the Sebastian figure, though I can understand why kek.

 No.5323

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New Kuro chapter is out.
I'm starting to think Vladis might not be from England since he doesn't recognize the queen. That and his boner for god leads me to believe he's from the Victorian equivalent to the Vatican (pardon my shit history knowledge, tho google is telling me the Vatican wasn't established until the 1900's). I recall an anon earlier in the thread comparing Kuroshitsuji to Hellsing, and if this is going the way I think it is then Modri Vladis might just be the Father Anderson to Sebastian's Alucard. Just a thought.
Anyway, I'm glad the fanartists always pull through kek!

 No.5325

>>5323
Thanks for reminding me of the new chapter, I keep forgetting when new chapters are released since I was so used to just waiting for the volume to be released in my country until the publication slowed down a lot. Honestly with his name I also suspect Vladis of not being English. Or not from the British empire in general. I suspected him of just being a weirdo who judges others based on his own god and virtue related criteria regardless of their social status at first but I think you're closer to the truth. By the way, the way Victoria calls her dead husband an angel and the next panels shows John Brown's face while standing there with the Albert puppet makes me suspect even more that Yana Toboso told everything she planned to the studio who made the first season of the anime. It's clearly a set up for what Victoria is planning.

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Sebastian's full demon form got revealed in this month's chapter allegedly. Not as eldritch horror as I imagined, very Alucard-y though. I kind of wish his true form had been left up to imagination but I guess it's not so bad. If it really is him.
Now I'm really curious to see what the hell some demon that is supposedly Sebastian was doing murdering randos at some foreign church function. If it is really him, then it might have been for a previous contract, hence why he doesn't remember it happening? But if Modri seemingly survived that it must mean he's a bizarre doll now, which means it couldn't have happened too long ago. Hmmmm…

 No.5410

>>5409
Where can I read the new chapter? I can only find legal ways to read it in English but I'm not gonna spend a cent on it when I already buy physical copies of the books in my mother tongue.

 No.5411


 No.5412

>>5411
Thank you so much! I just finished reading the chapter. A lot happened in that chapter, that's great. Shara is really funny I'm worried something bad will happen to her once she learns what happened to Agni.

>spoiler

Based on how outdated everyone's clothes were in that flashback I assume Sebastian did that way before his contract with Ciel. We don't know who the previous contractor was… it could be Vladis himself despite him not summoning Sebastian and the contract made him not age anymore because him and Sebastian didn't fulfill all the conditions of the contract yet? Especially if Sebastian ditched him. Ciel didn't summon Sebastian on purpose either after all, but Sebastian picked him based on how traumatized he was. Or maybe Yana is tricking us into think it's Sebastian but it could have been another demon and Vladis has no way of distinguishing between both of them since they're shapeshifters?

 No.5415

>>5412
I really liked Shara too. I wonder if her appearance could mean Soma is finally going to make a return.
>spoiler
I don't know much about historical fashion so I couldn't tell if the outfits were outdated or if they were just from some eastern European culture or something. I never considered Modri Vladis himself being a previous contractor. If it is indeed an unfulfilled contract then his boner for christ would definitely explain why.
I also considered the demon being someone other than Sebastian but I don't know if Yana would introduce other demons this late into the story. The anime had a lot of other supernatural beings besides demons and grim reapers, like angels and shapeshifting hellhounds, but the manga doesn't seem to follow that pattern. It goes out of its way to make us believe werewolves and witches are real only to reveal they're just regular humans. So I wonder how likely a bait and switch is in this scenario as well.

 No.5416

>>5415
>I don't know much about historical fashion so I couldn't tell if the outfits were outdated or if they were just from some eastern European culture or something.
I can't say for sure because I'm not an expert at all either, but just based on the dresses the ladies are wearing at the ball and Vladis having long hair tied in a low ponytail if you told me that scene happened before or around the French Revolution I wouldn't be surprised in the least. So around 1750-1800. Or even before that. Victorian era clothes are way more modern all over Europe so unless the scene was a masked ball with a specific theme it happened a long time ago. Unless I'm wrong. I don't know.

>I also considered the demon being someone other than Sebastian but I don't know if Yana would introduce other demons this late into the story.

You're right, at that point we're in the last arc of the manga, even if it looks like it's going to be a very long one. I think right now if anyone will be reveal to also not be a human it will be John Brown. With how much the anime was inspired by things from the manga that weren't revealed yet if Yana said he were an angel sent to work with the queen I wouldn't be too surprised, even if his role would be different from Ash's role in the first season. I don't think we ever saw him without his sunglasses? It reminds me a little bit of the final boss in the game Catherine on top of his white hair being similar to Ash's. And his voice actor is Hiroshi Kamiya too, he's going to be important eventually.

 No.5418

>>5416
I'm personally betting on John Brown being a grim reaper. I mean grim reapers are also known as "angels of death" so he'd technically be an angel. He probably appeared before Victoria when taking Albert's soul after he died. I bet he'll have an eye reveal just like Undertaker did in the luxury liner arc.



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