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 No.6421

Confess anything you wanna get off your chest.
Old thread >>19

 No.6422

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I feel stupid, I'm in my late 20s and feel like I'm drifting through life. I have a degree in a field that I don't even feel like I can use because I'm too autistic to actually keep on top of the job. I just fee like life is too complicated for me and like I've disappointed everyone in my life. If I wasn't religious and afraid of hell I'd have killed myself already.

 No.6423

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I think yaoi pretty much saved my life, maybe not that dramatic but it helped tremendously when I was at my worst. Last year I had a horrible heartbreak that I haven't fully moved on from yet. It caused me a horrible depression, I wanted to hurt myself so badly and I had suicidal thoughts. However I started using yaoi as a way to distract myself and it helped me out so much. I started getting more invested in my ships, I started buying BL physically and actually getting into proper BL instead of just shipping stuff from my favourite anime and manga, I started actually talking to fujos on Discord and having more fun with women online… I was always a fujo but last year and this year really reinforced it even more. Also /ex/ content was a life saviour, it helped me vent out so many frustrations just by seeing illustrations of cute boys with their intestines out. Drawing /ex/ content was even more efficient and now drawing my OCs cutting themselves or with their body chopped up is one of my favourite things. I have thought of making a drawthread on /ex/ because of that but I'm still unsure on what to start with lol
I will continue using fictional men to fully heal and even after that I won't stop being a fujo, much thanks to everyone who is a fujo!

 No.6431

I keep procrastinating at my job and getting away with it but feel really guilty

 No.6434

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I need to study for this very important test i'll take later this year but i can't stop thinking about gay incest sex between two old men. i'm going to kill myself why am i like this

 No.6437

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When I was younger I had a argument with this guy and I jokingly threatened that I would draw gay porn of him (I don't know if I would have actually gone through with it) but he got his younger sister to beat me up, she just came towards me, kept slapping me until I started crying and weeping and she just spat on me, I didn't tell anyone because she threatened me after that and I was too embarrassed

 No.6441

>>6434
I would get stressed when studying for tests and assignments in college and masturbate a lot. The week before finals I was doing it multiple times a day. Not sure if it helped me stay calm or took away valuable studying time.

 No.6444

I fujo out to news stories of 3dpd men getting gangraped. I especially like prisongay stories, it reminds me that its not too far fetched to have mob rape tropes in fiction because moids already fuck anything with a hole in it in reality

 No.6445

>>6444
Irredeemably based

 No.6446

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Completed my masters and I successfully landed myself a 9-5, I wanna be happy but I'm honestly actually dreading it. I know I'm doing the adult thing and building my CV or career or whatever but getting out of bed at a time that isn't 11 and not being able to get plastered during the week is gonna kill me. I don't wanna be like a lot of the people I know who finished or dropped out of uni but then stayed in their uni city and worked part time jobs whilst maintaining the quirky borderline alcoholic student life style, I genuinely think it's loser behaviour. I need to get my head on straight and I know a 9-5 in a workplace where it'll likely be socially unacceptable to discuss omegaverse with your coworkers and tell rude customers to kill themselves will probably help me be more of an adult but dear lord. Also I've wanted to leave my uni city for the longest time but I'm so stumped on how the fuck to even get started with that, dear lord take me away from the student life style and make me normal but also allow me to stay up till 4am downing gin shots.

 No.6448

>>6446
I too would like to discuss omegaverse in the workplace but life is too harsh. Stay strong nonna and make sure to buy lots of yaoiz with your corperate money!

 No.6452

>>6448
Oh honey as soon as I get the 9-5 bucks I'm looking into treating myself with some acrylic figures, perhaps a nendoroid if it weren't for the fact I keep flirting with the idea of moving out somewhere without committing to it, I got one of my coworkers to watch no.6 and she told me she cried at the end :3

 No.6456

>>6446
>>6452
I hate working so much but what helps me cope is knowing I can now afford to travel, order takeout food and buy useless merchs, books and video games just like I want. What I dislike the most is the lack of free time though even though I have a lot of PTOs, I can't use them whenever I want because my manager wants us to plan things way too in advance or at the last minute, it's annoying at best and made me delay important appointments to the doctor to get surgery at worse.

 No.6459

>>6456
I hate work too and wish I could have a normal job for a normal life

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>>6456
>>6459
Same same, when I get corporate money I definitely plan to hopefully travel more, go to more concerts and festivals and also get more gay anime merch, I'd get the physical editions of so no flag and shimanami tasogare and some more alien stage merch too… I'm already dreading corporate life and all it entails, I just wanna relax and enjoy the comfy life forever… But alas I can't get the things I want if I'm not a wageslave

 No.6486

3dpd warning i absolutely hate ishowspeed so it serves him right that he is getting sexually harassed and forcibly kissed by obsessed moid fans. not sure if its part of the act but i enjoy that he seems viscerally disgusted by it as well.

 No.6534

Cuntboy pissed me the fuck off and I hated it, but then I thought of two cuntboys fucking each other and got turned on. I guess the thing I actually despise is PIV, which most cuntboyfags draw.

 No.6914

I'm in a small yet dedicated fandom of an indie project, I pretty much have been part of it since the start but I'm not at all the most well known artist in the community. Even then most old members know me and I've been in some fan projects on it, this is really why I won't say what it is cuz I fear someone could identify me. This is really a fanbase I'm not a fujo for, I enjoy the characters and story but I don't see fujo potential anywhere. The thing is, the fandom is super puritain, it makes sense because the thing they love is not really "problematic" (there's messed up stuff in it but it's violence and we all know the double standards on that) but it's taken to a extreme. People lose their shit when someone draws something problematic either for fun or to bait and people get exiled from it because of what they write or draw. Doesn't help that the creator of said indie project is a Mormon and calls some stuff people can make "genuinely evil".
Maybe it's on me for still being invested on it, I've met people and I've gotten followers because of it. Weirdest thing is that is a moid infested fandom so them being puritans is super bizarre. I'm into problematic things but I'm not interested in making that sorta stuff with said indie project. Even then, it makes me wonder what would happen if people in that community discovered what I'm into. I sometimes just wanna make a new account and draw anything I want there but I have fear of being spotted because of my art style. I really shouldn't have gotten so invested in just that one thing for so long, but oh well.

 No.6932

I wasted ALL day with scrolling and shitposting again.

I feel similar like >>6422 though I am in my 30s now and feel like it got even worse in the 30s. Everytime I attempted to change it got worse not better so I stepped back and avoided doing anything. Turns out that makes depression worse. Who could know. But I still don't know what to do. Forming friendships is hard because I feel like I have nothing to say so talking is work.

The only thing that keeps me alive is gay shit and my fantasies related to the guys I like + some daydreaming about original (of course totally epic) stories. At least I managed to draw a bit again after avoiding that too for a whole year, thanks to some new anime airing that got me interested in some dudes.

But I never know how long that will last. The 2D men I like always end up dying so I expect to get depressed again when that happens and I will see if I am emotional enough to be motivated to draw more. Trying to do it for now but like I said I wasted a whole day again. Maybe tomorrow. Hopefully.

 No.6933

>>6932
>feel like it got even worse in the 30s.
RELATABLE, right down to the EPIC stories (lol) and trying to draw again. After crawling out of the depression hole that was my 20s, I think having covid derail my 30s when I was finally starting to feel like my life was starting for real this time has broken something in me. I want to do so much but I just can't start. Let's doodle something tomorrow ヽ( ̄ω ̄(。。 )ゝ

>>6914
>creator of said indie project is a Mormon and calls some stuff people can make "genuinely evil"
Dying to know what this is lol

 No.6934

>>6933
>After crawling out of the depression hole that was my 20s, I think having covid derail my 30s when I was finally starting to feel like my life was starting for real
I feel this so much. It wasn't covid but I had a few instances where I was finally getting better again just for some bad luck or bullying experiences to strike again and kill my hope. And it's always harder to stand up if you just fell again doing it.
I think we have to start slow. No big goals or projects. Right now I made a new twitter account because of this. My old one is for my "top tier" artworks and I have many followers (many for an autist like me) so it's too much pressure. With the new account I focus on another fandom rn and try to post sketches and simpler art. I think this could work!
>Let's doodle something tomorrow ヽ( ̄ω ̄(。。 )ゝ
YES! Godspeed nonna we will do it. Even if it's nothing special, just doing something.

 No.6938

I have a ship where one of them is part alien and I think it's giving me coomer gay furfag tier fantasies. It's just that the idea of the part alien one using his long giant alien tongue to please the human one is hot. Or him becoming bigger in all aspects because of it, kinda like a size difference fetish thing in this case.

 No.6939

>>6932
>>6934
sorry if this is unrelated, but ngl Ive come to realize I much prefer shitposting on social media rather than trying to build up an image and create art just for the sake of showcasing it to followers. I think its not my thing to be a content creator cause I get nervous every time I build up a following only to get decent reposts/likes on art but no interaction or comments on my posts about the series.. i dont want to be a drawslave i want to fool around and make shitty doodles while having fun damnit!

 No.6953

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I'm constantly getting triggered. I've lost month of my life to stomach churning depression and fear. I try to clean up my socials the best I can, but when you mute a word on twitter, it still shows up if you browse someone's profile directly??? The TVs on constantly in my house with my grandparents watching the news and when I hear certain words my heart starts beating, the thoughts start repeating, I get scared, and suicidal. I think my best bet is to stay off social media for good, even though that would cut me off from so much art and fandom and good chats. It is what it is though. I need to stay out the house but it get so dark at 5:30 now and I live the suburbs with no where to really go to read or study or draw or relax. Just wanna get hit in the head with a brick at this point.

 No.6958

I hate my job so I'm doing less than the minimum. I can't be fired anyway, and if they let go of me I will stay home for a little while, relax and earn unemployment benefits, and maybe I'll also finally be able to look for a better job. It wouldn't have been an issue if we didn't move to another office that's a noisy as hell open space, if my coworkers weren't annoying and screaming on the phone all the time, if I could choose my days of work at home, and if I wasn't given more work than everyone else to compensate for the high turnover rate.

Another confession is that I'd rather post dumb shit on social media than talk to my friends. They're getting very annoying anf judgmental so it's for the best anyway.

 No.6962

>>6958
This is 100% what I experienced with my job. Never liked it but it got 500% worse after we moved and the new place was an open space office that is noisy as hell, I have to do everything alone and co-workers are always sick or pretend to be, everybody is rude as hell and I couldn't choose my home office days unlike everybody else. Because I did everything they couldn't fire me but I eventually did after the overseer (she never worked, all she did was observing if I WAS working) took my home office days away as payback for complaining about the things above. I observed that lots of others listened to music while working so I did that too to drown out the noise and THEN one coworker told the boss I was listening to youtube videos since she saw me with earphones wtf?

I quit instantly and left the office right then and there and never even bothered to show up anymore so my direct employer (actually a nice dude who knows that the company is a pile of shit but can't do anything about it) was forced to make an instant dismissal since I basically disappeared.

I swore to myself I would never be diligent anymore. Next time I will do the bare minimum and be like all the others. It's a sad state, but none of us should sacrifice our mental and physical health for shit like this. NEETing right now and it helped me a bit.
>I'd rather post dumb shit on social media than talk to my friends
Same. Nobody even shares my real hobbies so our dialogues are superficial shit anyway I rather have fun on FC or 4chan and post hot 2D men.

 No.6964

>>6953
If social media stresses you out but you still want to go online, maybe check out Dreamwidth or Neocities or Wordpress or something? There you can make a fandom shrine without all the toxicity. Please take care of yourself and take a break from the internet

 No.6967

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>>6964
I do use all of those actually. I've had a dreamwidth for about 4 years at this point, and it's nice but it seems like such a hard place to be social even though I post to comm's hm. I mostly use it as a diary. I think maybe I just haven't tried hard enough to make friends hm. No more twitter. I guess I'll try to play on DW and read my manga…

Thank you ♥

 No.6970

>>6967
Sending love to you nonna, idk what fandom you're in, but I would like to be friends with you if our fates cross

 No.6973

>>6970
T_T ♥

 No.6989

>>6962
Sounds like someone specifically hated you. My case isn't as bad as yours, at least for now. Everyone seems to more or less get along until the manager works from home and then there are these two coworkers I found very annoying that try to gossip and insult others behind their backs for the way they work… even though these two people are the ones that are so noisy it's almost impossible to have phone calls or plan meetings with clients when they're around and it's impossible to focus at all. And they overwork themselves so much they sometimes work for free during the weekend or bank holidays, which gives us weird stats for the whole team, which means managers who don't know about it make us work more because "if they can do it everyone else can, I believe in you guys!" so right now I have 40% more work to do with the same deadlines than some recent hires in my small team and I had even more than literally everyone else for a year straight because of that and the turnover rates, which are high because everyone is overworked because of these tards. tldr; there's some tension now in the office and I want no part in it, I assume this will blow up at some point though.

Get the rest you need for now, I hope you'll find a much better job next.

>Nobody even shares my real hobbies so our dialogues are superficial shit anyway

I'm getting there with my friends right now. We're all nerds but even if you all like video games we don't always play the same ones. One of them has a the same tastes as mine with video games but never finishes them and still hates hearing "spoilers" 5 or 6 years later. Same for manga, we like BL but my friends almost only read webtoons and I don't. Everytime we talk about manga, anime or novels the conversations stops with "wait I'm not done yet so don't tell any spoilers!!" and that's that. Then outside of this they always talk about things I don't care about or don't want to hear about at all. Like trans rights. I'd rather shitpost and complain about dumb things on twitter or bluesky instead.

 No.7002

>>6953
That sounds like hell, nona, I'm sorry you're going through that. And I support your choice to leave social media altogether, I also sworn off it a while back, it has become too cancerous for me as well. Sometimes I miss the good aspects of it too, but I have come to realize that the downsides far outweigh those. I still interact with people anonymously online, I feel a certain levity in knowing that whatever happens won't be stitched to my name until the end of times. I'm still part of a private chat and I think the only reason it's still bearable is because it's a closed group, only very rarely someone gets invited in. I think that is the real problem with social media as it is right now, it's too public. Anyone can come in at anytime and you have to put up with their shit. Having every person in the world able to communicate with every other person in an instant sounds great on paper, but in practice that shit fucking SUCKS HAIRY DONKEY BALLS
By the way, how is life in the suburbs? I went to one once, and the rows and rows of identical houses gave me an eerie vibe, like I walked into a liminal space or something. Is it true that people don't even know their neighbors in a place like that? Must feel isolating as hell.

 No.7027

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My current job isn't as slavery as the ones before so I often take a time-out of five minutes and browse yaoi of my current favs. I also browsed yaoi in my very first few jobs and even did it with the office PC. I was lucky to be in a corner where others couldn't see what I was doing. I deleted the browser history of course, nobody ever suspected anything. Good times.

Also not sure if it's OT since it's not a sin just slightly odd maybe but I love walking through the city at night or generally being outside at night. Parks are fine as well. There is just something really calming about it, not sure what.
Maybe the darkness calms my autism. Also the lights are pretty as well as the interplay between darkness, street light and shiny skyscrapers. There are still many people around at night, so it can't be the solitude. It only gets a bit calmer after 2AM maybe.

I think it's also the feeling for being free? I mean this vibe of "It's midnight, you don't have to go anywhere and do anything anymore". No obligations, nobody messages you, nobody wants shit from you. Now it's cold though so I rather sit in a hookah bar kek but still comfy.

 No.7100

I used to make fun of internet asexuals for being cringy and thinking they were oppressed in the same way gay people are but lately I've been thinking how there must be a reason why I've gone 30 years without feeling the urge to date anybody, let alone sleep with them. Though tbh, even if I'm 'aroace' by the actual definition of the word I have no urge at all to go out and buy pride pins for it or plaster it all over my social media bios and I still think it's weird to pretend it's anything like being gay.

 No.7110

Some months ago I made a post on /cm/ about how I didn't worry about shota characters in a game potentially looking sexual any more because I stopped seeing them that way at all as I got older and lost interest in that type, and instead I felt some cutesy maternal instinct to look after them if they got injured. For the first time in a while the thread seemed to be active with multiple anons calling me a pedophile and calling me out for being gross. It's been months since, maybe a whole year, I can't remember, but it's been lurking in the back of my mind. I don't know what I could have said to communicate my point better, and I don't remember the users in that fandom being that way. It's got plenty shota characters if you want them, everyone just focuses on the ones they like and mine are the very tall/buff 20-somethings. I'm sure I've whined about it here before in the middle of a conversation, but all the talk about /cm/ lately has reminded me of how much that made me feel like an outsider. It was sudden because of how quiet things had been for a long time before that, so I had assumed the people I was talking to were the same ones who made jokes like "this tired old man's gonna get taken advantage of by a middle school boy". I'm sure the fandom outside of 4chan is really fussy about underage characters, I don't know where everyone else went.

Anyway, this felt like a confession to me because part of me is still scared that what I said was really creepy. I still believe it though, those poor boys have been through enough they don't deserve to be subjected to coomerbait shit. They need someone who lets them be kids and carries them to bed at the end of the day and tucks them in with a little peck to the head. Is there really something wrong with giving them a big brother to hold them when they cry and rescue them when they get lost? Do emotional connections with characters all have to lead to degeneracy? I'm just so rattled by the idea that I can't think anything about kid characters interacting or it's inherently wrong or sexual. Bweeeh.

 No.7111

>>7100
Same here. Always knew I was "aroace" even though I didn't know the term for it. I can't stand labels though and I don't feel like I am part of any sort of community nor do I want to be so I don't tell anybody unless they explicitly ask why I never had sex or a bf/gf in my 30+ years of life.
Personally I would never consider myself oppressed because of it. Did it cause issues? Yes, but they were related to self-doubts, for how much media and stories associate being human with the ability to love and enjoy sex. But I don't think that we face oppression, at best we're simply overlooked.

 No.7113

>>7100
The weird thing is that even the asexual label has expanded to be an all inclusive "spectrum" now. So most self-identified asexuals aren't even asexual considering how many of them talk about how they have kinky BDSM sex 24/7 and are still ace. It's not even a meaningful label anymore since you can call yourself asexual as long as you haven't experienced sexual attraction at some point in your life even if you're horny all the time in the present. These people aren't even long-term celibates and live like normal but still think their experience is on par with gay people. Not even sure what they consider sexual attraction to be anyway.

 No.7114

I sometimes wonder if I should cave in to fake-tolerance or brainwash myself into being accepting of "trans male" shit both the people and the things that are done in fic and art because it feels like no matter how much I put effort into something myself, taking care of character dynamics and the canon, cuntboy trans shit will always do better and I don't fucking know why.
Even the most garbage of things I could possibly read, will have overwhelming support just by the nature of going "btw the character is trans" and it's something so overtly celebrated.
I feel like I can't even express the most "neutral" dislike over transfication (literally just saying it's not my thing) without feeling someone is gonna witchhunt me.
It's like being a fujo became truly less about liking characters and just some hidden projection thing for trannies and I can't escape them no matter what fandom I go to.

 No.7115

>>7114
Who cares about attention and support?
It really seems like nowadays the balance of original source material and fanfiction has reversed.
Fanfiction is completely unnecessary and if it's to the point that you're thinking of accepting transfiction and cuntboy despite it 99% being complete au ooc then just put it down and read something else.

 No.7116

>>7114
Why would you even think this? Do you twitter virtue signaling equals actual popularity? Look at the stuff that actually gets the numbers. It's always normal men and women content no matter how the twitter crowd cries about representation, they never actually show up for content that gives them what they supposedly want. And they're cancel hungry to top it off. Nothing you do will protect you from them eventually coming for you. The only way to win the game is to never play to begin with.

 No.7117

>>7114
>taking care of character dynamics and the canon
A quick "sort by kudos" for most fandoms will show you that AU slop dominates, cuntboy or not. Tourists/normies/teens/early 20s are the majority in fandom now and their tastes are not particularly discerning. The numbers will reflect this.

>I feel like I can't even express the most "neutral" dislike over transfication (literally just saying it's not my thing) without feeling someone is gonna witchhunt me.

Not trying to sound mean, but are you actually popular/prolific enough to get people asking you about why you aren't drawing/writing more trans men or is this just worrying about something that is very unlikely to happen? A happy fandom life is one that doesn't invite engagement over dislikes on social media (here is welcome though obviously).

Some things you could try:
-get into a fandom with a big pre-2020 backlog, or setting your Ao3 search for fics posted before the trend really took off
-find a rarepair so it's just you!
-skim the porn to see what they use for pussy and clit, then word replace them with ass and cock (works most of the time, these fics never mention T shots or scars lol)

 No.7118

>>7114
You have to find out whether you really draw or write about your favs because you love and love expressing your love or if you do it for some sort of popularity.
Not saying the latter is generally bad, but if it's that it would be better latching onto other things. If you do it because you enjoy it though, why caring about attention? Remember that the trans fics are only getting attention from the trans fans. It's natural that they like what thematizes their shit but if you don't care about them why would you want their attention or expect it?

I draw for a fandom with A LOT of trans fans and where almost every fic is herm or trans stuff. But despite having 1000+ followers almost NONE of them are trans. It's Asians who are neutral about that and westerners who don't identify as trans. There is always more than one audience. They just have to find it. Maybe it's slower or less people but still. You make them happy.

And what's the point of getting kudos if you neither care about the story you write nor the people that love it?

 No.7119

>>7116
This.
>>7114
>>7116
I NEVER see trans stuff trending. Never. Regardless of the fandom I am in, the pics that get popular is always well-drawn canon related or funny fanart it's never about trans shit or political. Most trans fans can't even draw well, which confirms yet again that it's done in a desperate attempt of getting attention. If your art is bad you get at least a bunch of validity points from queers if you pander them. But this isn't what anybody should be aiming for.
Trans fags aren't fan of the actual series anyway it's a parallel AU fandom that leeches off of popular canon works. It's like complaining why your Champloo fanart isn't getting retweets from the Genshin fandom. They are too different fandoms and the first is an older niche series. The likes of the actual fans are what counts.

 No.7121

>>7100
I feel the label may be more helpful for men, for who a desire for sex is assumed more by society

>>7110
I think it's not your desire to see cute kid character interactions that got you that reaction, it's that you brought up sexuality at all, and the internet is filled with idiots who treat characters like they're real, so to them it's like you're talking about uploading photos of your real children while knowing someone might view it sexually. No you're not creepy, and these people are idiots.

 No.7122

>>7114
If it's about porn, then cuntboy/trans stuff gets views because people read porn by searching for tropes. Many people read porn for fandoms they're not even in. You can write any kink and get views just for that. And sadly the majority of people have always been hetfags and hetfags are willing to read trans fic because it's usually just hetbend lite. If dicks are going into vags they're happy.
That's not to say that most fandoms aren't full of FtMs or theythems who make and support the transfic themselves, because they definitely are, but at the end of the day it's like the other anons said. They care more about projecting on a character than the actual canon. If you write what you want to see and don't pander to them, it may not do as well as the other fic because you're not in the circlejerk, but you're bound to reach the people who do still care about the canon characters.

 No.7124

>>7121
iirc, I wasn't the one who brought up sexuality, I was replying to someone who complained that the shota characters were depicted sexually.

>>7114
Fics especially should be your personal hamster wheel of pleasure, write whatever weird shit is YOUR jam and be pleased with its existence. Don't waste the effort trying to figure out what other people are after or how to drum up interest. Fulfill your needs first. With words you can express the ideas only you have scrambled together.

 No.7163

I keep thinking about marrying my current bf, having his child so that my mother has a legacy and grandchild, then killing myself.

I feel at peace thinking about this.

Every time something major happens to me I just want to lie down and die. I'm so tired. I'm not suicidal. I just fucking hate this place.

I'm probably emotional because a mechanic just fucked up my car even more than it was already fucked and now I can't go to work to pay for the initial repair. What is even the point anymore

 No.7175

>>7100
I was a huge academics over love type that I did consider being asexual too. Joined a few asexual communities, slapped some variant of asexuality, and didn't question myself until some events in my life revealed I was only suppressing my sexuality. Being raised in a religious household didn't help either (it might explain my weird fetishes growing up). Asexuality has the prerequisites for legitimacy but what's stopping people like me from accepting it is the overlap with hormone imbalances and autism. Me learning that gender dysphoria was simply the result of autist dealing with gender peaked me and the same happened with asexuality. That also brings to question of why yoai? Does this affect sex scene preferences or what you wanna see in a pairing? Speaking as a straight woman, I admit, my reasons for being a fan of bl is pretty much two guys make it hotter than one. Things like dynamics, plot, and lore can be 50%, even 75%. But once it hits 99%, you lost me imo.

 No.7211

>>7121
>I feel the label may be more helpful for men, for who a desire for sex is assumed more by society
I get the same impression too, and some recent events in my life made start to see why they would think they suffer the same as gay men.
Ok so, one of my friends came out as gay and it was fine, his social circle accepted him well enough, but the general consensus is that we all kind of "already knew". It's not that we were 100% sure and talked about it behind his back, but it didn't really come as a surprise to anyone, it was more like "yeah, that checks out".
I found it a bit strange because he doesn't "look" gay, if that makes sense. What I mean is, he still dresses normally instead of trying to make fashion statements and doesn't have that stereotypically gay way of walking or talking, so that got me thinking what about him made it lowkey obvious? I think that (for me, at least) is the fact that I have never seen him hitting on women, or gawking at them, or making sexual comments about anyone, or just generally being a sexpest like men usually are.
Now, I don't have anything against gays (for obvious reasons), but that got me thinking about how that comes across to someone who does. Maybe the gaydar on homophobes is also attuned to behavior, so when they see a guy who doesn't make frequent displays of thirst, instead of thinking nothing of it, they take it as an invitation to go bully him. And that might be why asexuals think they have a claim on homosexual oppression, because part of it spills over on them.

 No.7229

I look down on gachaslop shippers

 No.7230

>>7229
Depends on the gacha IMO, I used to as well but a ton of them have outside source material that makes the characters actually shippable. Like manga or anime adaptations. There are also ones based on pre-existing series that makes the gacha just a hunting ground for pre-existing characters having new interactions.

 No.7231

>>7229
Same, but I admit that very heavily has to do with a personal grudge of mine when artists who draw what I like stop and switch to gachaslop.

 No.7232

>>7229
I can't get into it. I play FGO and I like some of the dudes there. But I just can't care enough about them or ship them. Maybe I would if they were part of a proper Fate series like Strange Fake or whatever, but as things stand there is just not enough interesting chemistry between them, even for those that have potential.

The central issue is that gacha is inherently self-insert pandery, so almost every fucking thing a character says is related to (you). 90% of the dialogues are with (you) or discussing the next mission while (you) are listening to their plan. It's so boring.

I wish we could just get the Indian servants from FGO, Moriarty and Douman (and few others) in an actual own good story (without a player character MC).

 No.7233

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>>7232
I actually like Genshin's gameplay, but I can't take anyone who claims the characters are deep or well developed, seriously. They are the exact same 5 character models in different outfits and their "personalities" are cardboard cutouts

 No.7234

>>7233
It's got the Homestuck problem–wide and shallow cast means its free real estate for headcanons/projection. Real Build-A-Blorbo Workshop shit. For whatever reason that's an appealing sandbox to a lot of artists/writers.

In just this year alone there are over 4k new fics of a ship (Childe/Zhongli, 18k total) that has gone 3 years without a meaningful interaction. It's hard not to be butthurt sometimes.

 No.7235

>>7232
You should watch some of the anime movies based on it. There are ones adapting the chapters of the game and are way more engaging and less self-inserty than PNGs yelling at (you). I'd also rec F/SN and Fate/Zero but not as a fujo rec, just because they're good.

Personally the biggest issue I have with Gacha boys is just that there often isn't enough "screentime" for each of them to be worth being invested in. And to add to that I inherently just don't enjoy the energy bar, forced battle, freemium format of them. I got yelled at by someone for saying I'd rather just buy Twst outright than deal with the "gacha" and the same is true for all of them. Even the ones I like such as FGO I fall off of because I don't want to do dailys.

Oh well, I can only hope shit like Arknights or Afterschool Summoners someday has an anime so I can actually find out what the plot of them are.

 No.7239

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One of my first anime/manga crushes was Washizu lmao
I am not primarily into old men but there is a certain type of moeness that can only be achieved by old dudes that can go full tsundere and cry.

Old men ships also give me some sort of happiness that characters younger than 40 cannot provide. I am thinking of ships like Kadokura and Kirawus and the likes. Especially if the series is set in a harsh world where half of the cast is dying it feels so good seeing some weirdos being the perfect match and just get old together and enjoy their lives.

 No.7248

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>>7235
>I'd also rec F/SN and Fate/Zero but not as a fujo rec
I will live and die by the delusional belief that Fate/Zero is a fujo anime.

 No.7250

>>7248
I fujo sperged for ages about F/Z. And yeah I mainly shipped Gil/Kirei. Fantastic ship. The menhera priest and the golden devil that tempts him. Also, the series brought us Iskandar/Waver, another great ship IMO.

Although I think that nonna didn't even want to imply that F/Z isn't fujo relevant and rather that it's good on principle, so that you should watch it even without the fujo content. I agree. I fucking love Urobuchi.

 No.7251

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I've been reading too much menhera that when I read a vanilla series I kept expecting the mc to lose his shit and have a mental breakdown plus flashback when somebody took his hat.
Maybe I need to calm down a bit, read some stuff that are a bit more orthodox in personality kek.

 No.7253

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>>7234
>It's got the Homestuck problem–wide and shallow cast means its free real estate for headcanons/projection.
As someone who is unfortunate enough to be a Homestuck in 2024 (tragic, I know), it's actually insane how different fan interpretations are from what's actually written in the text. I think, in both cases, it often comes from fans who didn't read the comic/play the game. Like, the characters' shallowness doesn't help, but I think both of these fandoms have a high number of people who just never engaged with the source material. I do think a different group of these headcanons also come from wanting to give depth to characters who might've been denied the spotlight, but in the end, it just leads to insane fan interpretations that don't resemble canon at all. It's pretty frustrating.
>>7233
It's a shame because some of the character designs look legitimately appealing, but I personally can't get into 99% of gacha games because I can't get attached to characters who have no real basis for me to feel anything toward them. I think this problem will keep getting worse, because the game's cast can only continue expanding.

 No.7262

>>7232
I like media with a large cast of characters. But if it's not written in a way that allows anyone to get the limelight, then I can't be bother to really care. With every new character there's more added bullshit that feels very "remember the new guy" like that character always existed but we're just now getting to learn about them. This is coming from somebody who gets bored when the main cast overstays their welcome. I want things to change, but not a way that shits on the legacy the previous gen paved. Idk, maybe I just have adhd and seek new shit like candy. Kinda makes a bad fujo now that I think about it….

 No.7268

>>7253
4Chords jumpscare lmfao

How is modern Homestuck fandom? I get bits and pieces of it through dork osmosis but have 0 interest in the epilogue (apparently Dirk is evil?). I kinda have the itch to reread it though. There's a thread in /wes/ if you care to write a short report (coincidentally also talking about the 4Chords artist).

>>7262
You might like The First Law (book series). Big cast of major and minor characters that get POV time.

 No.7272

>>7268
>How is modern Homestuck fandom?
NTA but the impression I get is that they're kind of like cockroaches who have survived a nuclear blast because I have no idea how anybody's interest in the characters survived those terrible epilogues. Any lingering affection I might have had for the fandom was killed off by the conclusion and now my only fond memories are of the music. Even the original comic is fucked because of the flash experience getting replaced with shitty Youtube videos.

 No.7273

>>7233
I am cursed because I hate designs like that and I feel like 80% of modern manga and anime look exactly like this.
I just dislike the body types and hate those faces that are nothing but a white circle with two colored dots and a small "-" for the mouth. At best the dots/eyes are slightly lengthier instead of being perfect circles. The hair styles also look similar to me. Always bangs that cover half of the face and looking super feminine. I am just not a fan of it and feel the same towards these guys as I do with moe blobs.

I feel like I would be so much happier if I could get into this for all the content that exist for such types of characters.

 No.7275

>>7273
Moe is a pox upon society in general. I miss the fun art styles of the past, everything is so bland now.

 No.7278

>>7273
So you like 90s and 80s stuff I presume?

 No.7279

>>7268
>How is modern Homestuck fandom?
Terrible. I just ignore it, honestly. Fan art is plagued by absolutely hideous shit, and so much fanfiction is just blatantly written by people who either did not read the original comic, or somehow sustained amnesia and forgot everything but the characters' names. I don't think the epilogues helped this at all because they kind of confirmed/validated the worst "headcanons" (I use that term loosely, because it's basically just rewriting a character to make them fit the author's ideal) of the fanbase. It somewhat helps that all new material is basically just fanfiction, so while I normally have a difficult time ignoring canon, I can just pretend it doesn't exist and enjoy the parts I like (which is basically just the original comic). The fanbase really attempts to retroactively make certain plot elements/"problematic" parts of the early comic 'okay' by forcing their headcanons onto characters or disavowing those particular parts. People also tend to take things waaay too seriously when the comic is supposed to be kind of silly, which I'd argue is a large part of its appeal. If you can believe it, there's also an admittedly small subset of people who insist the epilogues and sequel are every bit as good as the original, if not better (which I would say is a conclusion you could only come to if you were suffering from some kind of delusion). I know the Homestuck fanbase has always been ass, but it's objectively more embarrassing now that most of the fans are well into adulthood as opposed to preteens and teenagers.
>apparently Dirk is evil?
Oh my God, don't get me started on this. It completely violates the development his character received, and basically walks back on one of my favorite parts of the original comic. The biggest issue with the sequel and epilogues is how characters' development and original personalities are overwritten for the sake of either drama or to fit the authors' personal preferences.
>There's a thread in /wes/ if you care to write a short report
I've considered posting there before, but I'm always worried about annoying people on the site with it lol. I know Homestuck is lame, and people are right to hate it and its fanbase, so I try not to irritate people. Sorry for this long reply, by the way!
>>7272
>I have no idea how anybody's interest in the characters survived those terrible epilogues.
I ignore the epilogues. Weak answer, I know, but it's basically just fanfiction. So, I treat it the same way I treat all of the shitty fics out there.
>Even the original comic is fucked because of the flash experience getting replaced with shitty Youtube videos.
The Unofficial Collection does help in this regard. No need for the YouTube videos, and it has all of the playable segments and stuff.

 No.7281

>>7275
I wonder where it even comes from, psychologically. Like sure there were always people that were into it and that's fine. But why did it become mainstream?
Like is it the influence of men? Since they usually want blobs because they're just the extreme form of a super soft, harmless waifu with exaggerated female traits like doll faces. Or is a general fear of everything that isn't ten times as weak as you like the women that consider any 2D male older than 12 scary unless it's a trap? Is it some obsession with children?

It's all so weird to me. Though it might just be that the anime industry is reaping what it sowed. The moe look is unique for anime and adjacent stuff, so it attracted the people who are into it, pandered to them more and eventually not much else was left. The fans that prefer other shit probably ignore anime nowadays and watch live action or cartoons, which would explain why /a/ is so fucking dead outside of mainstream shounen threads.

 No.7313

>>7279
As someone who got into homestuck around 2012 I definitely have a lot of good memories of it but I lost interest during the longer hiatuses near the end of the story and only went back once I heard it ended. Sounds like I was justified in my decision to not read the epilogues or anything afterwards and just keep my happy memories of the original comic.

 No.7335

>>7268
>How is modern Homestuck fandom?
They are fucking unbearable. Like any old/dead franchise these days, genderspecials have invaded it and corroded the characters until they're basically unrecognizable. I've been a long time fan since the beginning and it hard for me to see what the fandom has become. Though I do blame Andrew Hussie and friends for destroying most of the franchise. There's so much drama from him and the original team and their antics have push most of the main fans away from the serie.

 No.7347

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>>6421
Warning: cringe alert textwall

I hate to say it but I am one of those legit spergs whose mental health largely depends on their gay fictional cartoon characters. It's genuinely the only thing in life that makes me happy and the only way of escaping reality and delving into a mental state that makes me feel all kinds of positive emotions.

It never lasts long which makes me depend on the short, happy times harder and leech off of them like a starving vampire. My pairings/characters always die and usually they get treated badly before that. That shit will instantly throw me back into my usual state of depression but with the added feeling of heaviness and a deep sadness, opposed to the blank state devoid of feelings which is my usual state whenever I am not into a ship.

I wish this shit was studied because it makes it impossible to live normally and I can't feel shit or enjoy anything without it. I think I was always mentally ill but as long as I was a kid nobody cared about me being trapped in daydreams and LARPing fictional characters or OCs. But once you grow up you can't dream anymore and with that shit gone the only thing left was bleakness.

Canon characters that I love not only individually but as couple is the closest thing to this dream state I can get without upping my insanity to 100. No idea why nothing real can give me any of these feelings, I even tried to explain it to a therapist but it's useless, it's uncharted terrain to them and they just tell me to find shit to love in real life. Well guess what, I tried for decades and failed to find it.

No fucking idea man, but when I imagine my favs and thinking up stories with them I feel like god himself looking down and feeling the joy of his sentient creatures living. The fact that their origin and personality weren't created by me makes it even better, it makes them feel more real, since they also exist outside of my mind and are a topic I can talk and sperg about with other fujos.
When my last big ship and the guys were killed it legit felt like I got stabbed into the chest lol. It's so dumb saying this but I believe this is how a broken heart feels like (I was never in love with a real person so not sure). Shit lasted a whole week and I could barely even eat and couldn't explain it to the last family member I have. Shit was followed by a phase of depression and eventually coping by making more fanart since there is no real alternative. Better sticking to a tragic ship than having nothing again.

 No.7356

>>7229
I'm an autist who throws a fit every time someone calls TouRabu "gacha" to the point that reading this made me think you were talking about me.

>>7234
>Real Build-A-Blorbo Workshop shit
Gave me a good chuckle. I admit I like sandboxing with characters, but I really like working within guidelines so I'll judge someone's works based on whether they included certain traits. It's satisfying when something you thought was a headcanon stretch ends up in the official media and actually you just understood him this whole time.

>>7239
I have taken characters and made "old retiree" AUs out of them for shits and giggles, and it's amazing how much dumb absurd behavior your brain accepts from someone older. It's especially good with stuck up tsundere, either they're past caring how mean they appear or they're transparently pathetic. Grumbly old man moe.

 No.7357

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>>7347
its played off as a gag, but Tae going into a depressive episode because her fave character died is so fucking real (except for the weight loss that didnt happen to me KEK)

 No.7385

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>>6421
I watch anime openly on the family TV whenever I visit and sometimes my family will watch BL anime with me

 No.7388

>>7385
This confession paired with that picture reminded me of when I watched NGE as a kid, thought the TV broke when Shinji was hesitating to kill Kaworu and got scared my parents would accuse me of breaking the TV and kick my ass. And I used to sneak at night in the living room when I was like 15 to watch Gravitation on TV but missed a few episodes and would change the channel as soon as I heard footsteps.

 No.7398

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I feel like I haven't read as many BL mangas as I should so I want a group chat of elderfujos to groom me into reading as much BL as possible and give constant recommendations. Like a BL accountability group lmao

 No.7399

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>>7398
That's such a cute idea anona,makes me a lil sad I don't save and remember a lot of the really good oneshots I've read
I'd love to give recommendations but first I'd need to know what kinda stuff you like

 No.7401

>>7398
You could always ask for recs in the recommendation thread. Not exactly what you want, probably, but I think it could be a good place to start! I'd also like to help, if you could tell us what you like.

 No.7527

>>7002
Just now seeing this
>I'm still part of a private chat
Yup, I do that too, I use discord like most people. It's relaxing, nice to just have people without the abrasion of having a feed filled with just any and all information.
>it's too public
I wish I was easier to make closed off spaces anywhere but discord, sigh~ Maybe I should make my own dreamwidth comm, for fellow weirdos to talk casually haha.
Really not everyone needs to know everything. Sometimes, you don't need people listening in. Tired of the fear of gawkers

>By the way, how is life in the suburbs?

It does suck balls! Mines a bit older, so I we the charm of older brick row houses, but it's just the distance of everything. I don't have car so it's hard to go anywhere fun. Ubers will drain your money, the bus will take a hour when a drive might take 15 minutes, all while lacking the nature you at least get in the countyside even though that also comes with its own distance from others.
>identical houses gave me an eerie vibe
I hate the new identical houses man, so soulless. When you say "liminal" you're right. These outside spaces are ones that no one besides kids hang out in. As an adult it's a transitory space between your house and where ever else you plan on driving off to. This doesn't apply as much if the houses have porches though.

It is isolating. Luckily, I got a really chatty neighbor recently and he's nice, but generally, it's mostly just "hello" with neighbors and not much further. My grandparent's don't have any friends near by, my mom is not friends with any neighbors, only my cousin does because she's in school and has some opportunity to encounter the people near by regularly with some reason. I walk around but there's no place to see the same people regularly enough to ever connect.

I complain, but I persist regardless. I think I'll take a bus into the city sometime soon I think!

 No.7536

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I don't know how everyone here feels about realism vs unrealism in yaoi, but I like it when uke asshole gets wet when aroused. I rationalize it in my head as men having different bodies in fictional universes. The presence of shit really bothers me. I want to come up with a way to rationalize mpreg.

 No.7548

>>7536
>I want to come up with a way to rationalize mpreg
I like mpreg in the fantastical way of the seme going "I'm going to breed you" to the uke and maybe some funny "haha guess I'm pregnant" result by the end but not actual pregnancy? Like, I can't actually imagine the mpreg resulting in genuine childbirth, in that case it'd be too weird. Either assbabies or dickbirth and after seeing a dickbirth doujin once I don't wanna see it again.
The alternative is giving them a pussy but that's also not really the point.
Unless the character is non-human, I can consider it and pleading to god people don't actually take it as me transfying characters. But otherwise, it's too hard.

 No.7583

>>7536
I lean towards realism more than anything, but mine some breaks from it like the lack of homophobia or ukes feel like a third type of sex. I don't know why, but I like that in my stuff.

 No.7584

>>7536
There are little things that can make a fantasy better. Blowjobs are better in fiction if you pretend that cum tastes nice.

 No.7632

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I headcanon giant semes as just regular sized white people who just happen to be in korea or japan

 No.7683

I really like when female genderbends of characters are out of shape and have pudgy tummies. Maybe it's just because there isn't enough art of regular guys with a squishy tummy (as opposed to stupidly fat OOC) but every so often someone will do it for a genderbend and make cute comics about it. When a character is a shut in nerd with bad eating habits it never makes sense to make them slender and glamorous anyway, bones or skinnyfat, pick one.



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