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>>8478
About same. I hate seeing OC posts because I just read it as self-shipping with an additional step.

Not only that, they all read the same.

Attractive Mary Sue who gets the villain to fall for them by being awesome/failures. Fucked up and ugly canker sore with body hair and scarring to 'fix' the universe into accepting people who look just like them.

This is a very mean way to think of OCs, but I have never seen an OC (outside of very few fandoms) that makes me really want more of them. MHA is the sort of manga where OCs genuinely improve the story because broken super powers don't really register as special when the main cast already has all the ultra powerful god killing skills in their pocket. But if more than 5 people cared about puppet kino and gave Duck a new ally I likely would not care.

>>8478
God SAME. I fucking hate fandom-OCs. If you make OCs do it right and make them real OCs with an own story, not those godawful *sonas.
I hate how every fandom is flooded with that shit, it's everywhere. Like I sound like an asshole but it's literally a Trojan Horse way of forcing a shitty OC into an existing fandom by pretending it was related (it isn't).

What's worse is that fandom-OCs always fall into the same three horrible categories: 1.) it's a literally (you) character that looks EXACTLY like the artist including the bodytype and hairstyle and everybody knows but nobody says it. 2.) it's a self-insert mary sue which is usually done by yume. Will look like a Barbie doll and have names something like "Aurora", "Bella" or "Jane". 3.) shameless rip-offs of a canon character just badly drawn and with one detail changed in a sad attempt of making them look different.

I think it's done by people without creativity. Creative fans will either come up with enough lore related content to draw/write about or create their full own story with actual OCs.

>>8484
I know it's a very cunt like thing to do, but I tend to assume my OCs are "different" and part of me is always sad knowing someone else out there thinks they're dogshit.

OCs as concepts seem inherently cursed unless you've got insane amounts of talent to make them look as good as official characters.

FFXIV, being a MMO, is full of them since the protagonist is literally you. And I hate how I can't find Warrior of Light x Canon without stepping on the tail of some catboy OC. I just think, wow, desperate much? Which I know is entirely unfair since from their POV MY WoL likely looks boring/tryhard.

I can't win.

>>8485
I have this same problem with XIV. WoL ships are pretty good for nearly any given NPC but actually looking at the fanworks is a hurdle I can't clear.
>>8478
When you follow somebody for fanart and they pivot into OC art (or even just a fandom you don't follow) you no longer have the complete context for the picture so there are no "laying eyes on blorbo" endorphins. I also think it's really rare for a good fan artist to also be a good writer, so even if there is context it's probably not that engaging.

>>8478 here, I should probably elaborate further that the reason I was thinking about this was that in between writing some stuff for an original story I started thinking about two fandom OCs I came up with one night last fall. I opened the discord server where I posted about them to copy the text into a document to save for reference, and the only posts in the channel since then were one off drawings of people's OCs with the usual excited responses. I had those mean thoughts about them, and then I felt foolish as I reached my stuff because there weren't drawings or set design characteristics. I had introduced these characters by writing 2700 words on the spot, directly into the window. Of course that's hard to persuade people to read, but I was giving the very basics of who these characters are and why they're like that, how they end up meeting the canon cast and the ways their personalities work off each other. I can't make a character without him having something, he has to fulfill a desire for me to bother and when I bother I worry about making it convincing within the existing framework.

But I guess that's the point, what other people desire is a self insert or the thing they like but in the style of this game sprite or whatever. As an ideas guy my goals are different from people who want to jump in the "here's us but series!" gang. I do remember as a kid enjoying making OCs just to also have an OC to present when everyone else posted theirs, and that was why I started drafting these two OCs, but my autism didn't let me be simple. I wonder if I could draw maybe I'd go the other way like the artists some of you describe, who pump out very pretty art of OCs but never tell anyone about them.

>>8482
> But if more than 5 people cared about puppet kino and gave Duck a new ally I likely would not care.
I can't read this and not see a challenge. A rogue who got duck'd in the past and forgotten about, assumed ruined, but has done something with himself in the time since and crawled out of his hole. Would he be horrified to see Duck's face again, or would he still be arrogant/foolish enough to boast to him that he's doing just fine now? Is he actually doing fine, or is that a bad lie? I would want to make them terribly pathetic, someone who is struggling to make ends meet with very mundane work that they're not good at, swallowing countless criticisms from their average Joe boss, and then when the main cast assumes they're useless he pulls out some terrible assassin or thief skill that he's remarkably good at but has no use as a law abiding citizen. Also I want him to have long, wavy purple, silver, or green hair that he lets fall over his face when he sobs, only to be reminded to tie it up while he's working and stop wasting time. This would be extra moe if he has someone who does look up to him and calls him aniki.

Shit it's happening again.

>>8485
>>8486
Personally I can get into WoL X canon content for the most part though lately I realised I lean more towards fancomics/art and I can't really get into fanfics. I guess I'm just more of a visual person and I'm down with it as long as the WoL is attractive to me. Pretty boys are the best but guys that have more muscle to them are fine as long as they don't have facial hair. Character creator-compliant bright hairstyles and facepaint are fine to me as well even if they do inch towards sparkledog territory but there's some people in the west who will go the IMVU modbeast direction and that's when I get turned the fuck off. Not that this appears much in fanart but sometimes people will use gpose to make content which can be a mixed bag. As a sidenote it feels like I'm fed and starving at the same time cause while there's plenty of G'raha ship content it doesn't seem like Erenville has caught on much with fujos so far. I know it's not surprising cause Erenville doesn't have the sheer amount of fujo/yume baiting content that spans multiple expansions. This is kinda delusional but part of what motivates me with art is that I'd like to become the Endymade of WoL X Erenville. Even if it's not a realistic goal, having something that drives you is going to help with productivity I imagine.

I want to see Riku from Kingdom Hearts raped but I also hardcore ship SoRiku

>>8511
Honestly Riku's ass is owned by Ansem in most if not all art and I'm all for it but yeesh KH is surprisingly stale.

All these characters and personalities… and my only choice for all content is vanilla romantic soriku, dom sub Ansem x Riku, safw Akusai and hetshit written/drawn by the most insecure people online? There's the niche ships out there as well, but those are the main pairs.

I was always an outlier for ships and wanted to push for unorthodox pairings and dynamics including noncon but I was never fandom famous. Tried to be, at a time, but my reach was pathetic and my socmed skills below subpar.

>>8512
I just started this series and am only on Re:Chain of Memories, so I haven't dived into fanworks yet, but don't people ship Axel/Roxas? That was a pair I always saw as an outsider.

I'm still kind of waiting for a KH pair to latch onto, been promised II will make me a SoRiku shipper.

>>8513
Akuroku was the main pair in the 00's era fandom. Mostly because all we had was Days for years and years and years. But oops age gap so it isn't as big in the fandom. Axel was thought to be similar in age to Roxas at the time and internet in 2009 was not the one of today.

>>8513
>>8514
nayrt but I genuinely thought axel/roxas would be more popular? I remember seeing it everywhere when I was younger but not into KH. I don't know what the nu-KH fandom ships nowadays but for sure I remember them being so prominent.
Did it just fall off for the newgen? They are obviously an age gap ship even if you didn't know their ages but as if that should stop anyone

Had a shotacon induced nightmare last night? In it, I got accused of being a pedo and when I went to flip through the photos on my phone to prove I wasn't photos of shota in sexual situations where in there and could feel the vibe turning rotten and the accuser was certain about me now and I was living in hovel alone at the end or some shit idk. Just a pure what felt like 20 mintutes dream of feeling dread as your life goes down the drain lmao

>>8562
I've had dreams where friends or family have been judging my porn. Sometimes they will be looking at it on my phone but I have had dreams where this happens while I am masturbating. I think it must be rooted in an insecurity.

I love making over powered male characters or ones with insane plot armor omegas and making them go into heat unexpectedly and need to fucked as a means of emasculating them. I hate fictional men with high standing or lots of strength in a story and making them beg for dick turns me on more than anything else.

I have the heart of a pervy old man. The image in this fic of a host sitting in the lap of the patron who's forcing him to drink, ahhh..ahh. You're hard and knowing they can't bring it up!! I wish I had a penis so bad sometimes haha

>>8633
>for as long as I can remember thinking about having a dick makes me wet
>do not want to be a man
I just want to be able to fuck something and toys do not offer any of the same excitement that imagining having a dick gives me.

>>8633
>>8647
I admit I also sometimes imagine myself dicking my favorite 2D men.

I ship characters from children's shows, and not even ones aimed at older kids.

>>8714
same, kids shows have a surprising amount of good material femslash and het material too

>>8714
Not like they don't put in the work for shippers sometimes

>>8714
Same. People will pry SportaRobbie from my cold, dead hands, I watched Lazytown well into adulthood for them.

>>8717
>>8715
>>8716
Glad I'm not the only one then. I feel self conscious whenever I get into children's media as an adult. There is a worry I'm immature even though I watch "adult" shows as well. Most adult cartoons just don't scratch the same shipping itch.

>>8648
>lie prone
>cup hands and grind into them
>imagine I'm giving dick
Ovulation takes me places.

Spongebob yaoi is good and I'm not trying to joke or hide behind ironic humor. Ik there's an ancient thread here too

>>8839
Same it's frustrating to go looking for fan content, especially fanfics, which are just "lol crackfic" trash. Squidbob is great and I'm tired of pretending it's not!

>>8648
I would for sure give Tsukishima the D tbqh

I look at oneeshota sometimes cause the only hetero content I'm into is the type where the male is weak and helpless. Same thing with monster girl media.

>>8842
But do you like crybaby ukes then?

>>8843
It depends. Much like with tsundere ukes a writer can make it work but it can also just come off as annoying.

>>8842
>Same thing with monster girl media.
Every girl I've seen into monster girl quest says this kek.

I'm a filthy handsome man x pretty girl shipper.

I know this is unpopular for some people, but I like "some" feminization, specially older males being feminized and getting called MILFs

>>8842
>Monster girl
This makes me wish non-vampire monster boys were more popular especially the ones based on mythical animals. Imagine all the crazy design possibilities. But unfortunately every person I spoke with can't handle anything beyond kemonominis…

>>8845
Sorry nonna I don't know why you'd ship Archer with Rin when Cu is right there. Or Emiya if you're brave.

>>8850
I never got the ship with him and Cu honestly, I love fujo ships as much as the next lady but they genuinely have zero chemistry (is it just because they fight at the beginning and they’re red and blue?)
>Or Emiya if you're brave.
I don’t like Shirou.

Honestly Archer and Rin was the only ship that made sense to me, in UBW it definitely seemed like Rin fell in love with Archer instead of Shirou.

>>8849
I'm always trying to work on monster boy content, unfortunately I'm working at a snail's pace… sory nonna.

>>8851
Have you played Hollow Ataraxia? I didn't get the ship during the original FSN but HA made me a believer with it's pool party.

>>8853
No I've only played the original VN.

I truthfully have the hots for a much older fandom friend. It's bullshit that I'm not entertaining because we will undoubtedly never meet in person and she would never want me even if I did, but I love her.

She's so kind, and weird, and kinda similar to me.

I love it when she says sweet things to me or finds what I have to say interesting. I enjoy the attention, we will chat on and on.

Got so worked up thinking about her and her kind words, I masturbated to the thought of it.

I have something like a praise kink, perhaps? Not in the bdsm kind of way where you could replicate this feeling with roleplay, but when it's genuine, I feel all tingly inside
(- -);;;

>>8864
>Got so worked up thinking about her and her kind words, I masturbated to the thought of it.
My fandom experience is destroying my sleeping routine because I get so invested in talking with a long distance fandom friend that I stay up hours after the conversation has ended masturbating to what we discussed. I've called it a validation kink before.

>>8869
Oh my I'm glad to know I'm not the only one some how.

Luckily my sleep hasn't been ruined by the conversation or masturbation (well it is ruined, but not from that specifically), but we do go on for very long stretches of time. Ah it makes me so happy she's willing to invest so much time talking to me instead of ignoring me like some stupid kid or something. So flattering…

Cringe but mpreg content makes me feel better as someone who wants to be a mom one day. Good mpreg fics explore the ups and downs of pregnancy in a way I've never seen in popular media. It also makes me feel less ashamed or embarrassed about wanting to be a mother. I hate how moms are always made fun of or shat on, like being a mom is the lamest thing possible and your journey in life ends. I wish mpreg never become a meme.

>>8954
The family angle is nice, and I like stories with adoption. The biggest hurdle is just the anatomy and exact mechanics which are often hard to explain away without getting gross/silly. I can see the appeal though nonna, and there is a reason it's a commonplace trope even if it's memed.

>>8954
Oh god this is so real. I've given up on that as a potential path for me, but I love seeing it from an angle that isn't so steeped in how people normally think about women and what not. It's helped me to see it from a more neutral angle and let go of some of my fears about it. It's really amazing to me, the power of art. You really never know what will resonate with you.

I really wish buying merch was not so tied up in being a good fan, especially with in the asian majority fandoms I'm part of. Even if you have the money as an adult, as some point, you gotta be reasonable about your money. I love love love their music, I own a few albums, some merch, and was even part of the fanclub for a year, but I feel like such an odd one out not importing new shit constantly lmao. Maybe I'm just bitter from being stuck unemployed though…

>>9028
agreed, I only buy merch if it could be practical in some way and maybe indulge in an acrylic charm/button pin if I have the space to put it on my daily bag. the most ive splurged on decorative merch were some nendoroids of my forever OTP and some doujin + artbook. otherwise I hardly purchase merch for any series i like unless its something really special to me

>>9028
I guess a lot of this also is tied to the franchise itself
Like I get people being expected to buy merch in something like a joseimuke gacha like twisted wonderland but I wouldn’t really get it for a game like DMC for example.

>>9029
Yeah, I bought a nice bag for my fandom and that's really it. I want some dolls as well, but they're kinda pricey… So another time. But the way people are constantly importing DVD's, and books that aren't even in english, and dolls, and magazines, ah!!! Shipping from Japan is so pricey!!! How!!!! I'd get it if you lived there, but how can you justify it, even if it won't bankrupt you? I just did not grow up feeling so free with money lmao

>>9030
Yes, like I get gacha stuff because it's built to endlessly sell merch. But if your fandom is real heartfelt art, something properly made with a vision, why is not just loving the art at the center of it all enough… I feel like your emotional depth with it should come first…

>>9031
>I just did not grow up feeling so free with money lmao
I felt this so bad when I joined a discord server with younger users for the first time. They were proxying merch for a Korean? series and saying that they were getting grandma to use her card for them as a birthday treat, but it was like $20 per acrylic stand or something crazy.

>just loving the art at the center of it
This. If it's music, own the CDs or buy the downloads. Enjoy them personally. That's all it takes to be a fan. Anything else should be because you felt a purpose to it in your enjoyment, which sounds pretentious but what I mean is I have lil plush dolls and a wallscroll for something I'm into. I can look at the stupid face on the wallscroll and smile. I can take the plush in my bag and use it to censor strangers out of photos of things I've visited. Make a joke caption about what my fave thinks of it.

I am jealous of itabags full of stuff, some of them are really well done with decorations and print outs to fill the gaps. But I'm still in shock that so many kids are making them like they're expected fandom culture now. They're just using them to school? Why? Didn't it cost a fortune? Urk.

>>9032
>Why? Didn't it cost a fortune?
It really comes down to a lot of factors
How popular is the character? Do they have a lot of merch? Is their series still regularly releasing merch? How big is the insert of the bag itself? Etc etc

If it's something like a popular idol game character or popular shounen character then you could probably make an entire bag during surugaya's free shipping sales for like, 50 to 100 bucks (not including the bag itself obviously) so it really does range.

>>9035
I suppose I meant that rhetorically since I didn't expect an answer. The ones I was thinking of you can't get the merch without using Mercari because it's still popup store and mail order only, and the prices per item are usually around 1200-2800yen (some of the out of print items go for 8-12000yen, I'm relieved I've only seen them in haul posts and not itabags). More pressingly my advice is absolutely steer clear of Suruga-ya's eng store for that, especially if it's a popular character. They are charging 600yen minimum for items and a 900yen service fee now, whereas can badges for popular chara can be found on Mandarake's site for 100-200yen a go if you catch them dumped in the same store. Also from experience I really don't trust Suruga-ya for itabags, however tempting the availability is. JP brand itabags can cost a fortune and sell out fast on int. sellers, and the secondhand ones either cost far more than they did new or have visible defects. Suruga-ya does not tell you what the defects are or if they have them, so it's a complete gamble. I've had one turn up "used" but still sealed with tags and full of paper stuffing, and another turn up the wrong color with a handle hanging loose because the glue didn't set. The one with the fucked handle was more expensive because of the brand/range.

Anyway I grew up not allowed to buy shit online, and even when I moved out I had customs to worry about so I had to keep all my purchases under 2500yen or face handling fees out the ass. I am old man shaking fist at cloud with these kids freely collecting whatever the fuck plushies and rare stuff they want. Japan is so damn accessible to them now. They're all posting phone screenshots of neokyo accounts with tens of items waiting to ship. Neokyo charges fucking percentage rates on payments like it's 2009 again.