No.6421[View All]
Confess anything you wanna get off your chest.
Old thread
>>19 No.9978
I like gunplay.
No.9983
I don't see anything wrong with kinning.
Genuinely looks like thought police behavior.
I know people hate seeing platonic art tagged as ship- but how different is it from people shipping two characters who are not romantic with each other? IF someone views it that way- who the fuck cares about how you made it?
Kin tags read the exact same to me. It's someone's delusional fantasy and it does not affect you in any way if they go around claiming it's them in the picture. Just ignore them. They aren't saying you- the artist, actually made that for them like an unpaid comm. You posted it, they interpreted it- and I see no issue.
No.9984
>>9983>>9983>Kin tags read the exact same to me. It's someone's delusional fantasy and it does not affect you in any way It actually does, many kinnies are also antis so if they see ship art with what they personally think is problematic (depends on the character) they'll start saying shit like "I wouldn't fuck my brother, stop drawing me like this" / "I'm not a pedophile" / "Stop drawing me being raped" and make it a THEM issue as if you're genuinely hurting THEM, as a Person and completely fail at understanding that it's a character that people can do whatever they want with.
They may not say you made the art as a comm but they sure can say you are emotionally scarring them for false portrayals or whatever the fuck
No.9985
>>9984So what's stopping you from blocking them?
I genuinely think it is far too much effort to give them any attention. If they're trying to fight with you in the tags then simply remove them from your online space. It just feels like self flagellation to consider them with every single post.
No.9987
>>9985it’s the over-personalization that makes other people uncomfortable. ofc she can block but she can still find it strange and want nothing like that around, especially when someone (unwillingly?) self-inserts as a character being raped and gets mad at the artist because of their own retardation.
No.9988
Character bashing is fucking hilarious (although it should be properly tagged) and makes me miss older fan communities
>>8840https://archiveofourown.org/works/5216501One of my favorite fics if you like Spongebob kek
No.9989
>>9987Yeah, I feel that way too. It's kinda like online plural/system people. It feels like they're pretty much forcing me to play along with their delusions and it weirds me out.
No.9990
>>9987>>9989I wish there was a polite way to not play along with system or kin people on Discord besides just ignoring them, especially when they use that stupid bot for alters
No.9991
>>9988>Character bashing is fucking hilariousThere was this artist (who's deleted all their work) who drew Ouma from danganronpa being severely abused (being forced to eat bugs by having his teeth broken, being punched until he vomits, having cement dropped on his knees, etc) and I'm still not sure if they were doing it in a character bashing way or if they just really liked seeing their fave get abused in really disgusting ways.
No.9992
>>9990i admire you for trying to maintain a level of kindness. i don’t join discord servers but i usually just make fun of these “systems” when i encounter them in the wild. also never heard of utilizing bots for systems o_O that sounds actually hilarious
No.9993
>>9985I feel this way about most online discourse, people spend far too much time engaging with teenagers. There's a difference between having a discussion with someone you disagree with but respect and having an agressive conversation with a kid playing pretend.
No.9994
>>9990I find that those types of people on Discord are very volatile and usually filter themselves out of any space where someone sets them off even once, so it's not like you have to ignore them for a prolonged amount of time
I don't even mind going along with delusions; if system/kin people weren't so overwhelmingly whiny and were instead pleasant people then I'd play along with whatever
>>9993I agree, it's obnoxious how sensitive teens can be about any discourse but I think the burden is on adults to have the thicker skin and shrug off what a complete stranger online says about them
Maybe easier said than done, I don't go on Xitter regardless
No.9995
>>9991lmao poor Ouma :(
>>9992It's less out of kindness and more about not wanted to get booted from a fandom server by a BE NICE!! janny. I don't want to interact with kids either but they flood Discords even for IPs aimed at adults. This is why fujochan is nice and comfy for discussions.
No.9996
>>9995wish there was a way to properly keep kids out that doesn't involve ID verification/breaching privacy. fandom culture is dead and children/trannies on twitter buried it
No.9997
>>9996I think just having an 18+ rule is a good filter for children. Obviously it won't stop all of them, but it'd at least go back to the way the internet used to be where the ones that want in will pretend to be some 80 year old war veteran. But the 18+ rule also unfortunately tends to result in males being super degenerates. Here and LC are pretty great, although LC has a lot of moralfags, but their /m/ and /g/ threads are less moralfaggy at least.
No.9998
>>9996Honestly it's not really a kid problem anymore specifically. People that are 18 now were just teenagers a couple years ago. You can find a 20-22 something adult and they might've raised in that same child brainrot environment and it may the same thing as dealing with a teenager anyway
No.9999
There's this female comic artist with strong fujo vibes that i love. I sent her raving fanmail, assuming she was anti-gendie, because she wrote things in her socials that pointed to it (i now realize i jumped to conclusions). Plus her listed pronouns are ridiculous so i assumed it was a boomer joke, as she's quite old. My letter had a whole paragraph about how cool she is for being an older fujo who didn't fall for the gendie meme, how many fujos have trooned out in younger generations, how cool she is for suporting young girls in the hobby, blah blah. Only to find out recently she's actually a geriatric gendie and rabid TRA. I'm still a huge fan! But i feel like such an idiot, it must've been awkward to receive this letter assuming she's based for having all the opposite opinions she has, lmao. She replied nicely but i'm cringing at my own assumpution, if i had known i wouldn't have brought tranny shit into our interaction
No.10000
men have no taste and make me hate femboys sometimes
No.10001
>>9999My suggestion is to never mention controversial topics like this in fanmail, nonnie, I'm an indie creator and while I pointedly never include trans shit in my BL works because I hate it, I can NEVER answer to fanmail that has clocked it because it's impossible to know if it comes from a genuine fan or some crazy internet weirdo hoping to grab screenshots to start a internet crusade.
No.10002
>>9985I had a fandom where I would get 20 notes on a drawing, and 18 of them would be kin posters. I had no idea where it all came from and it was pretty overwhelming for a first encounter with them. Even more obscure characters would get someone reblog with the tag "Jared look it's you!!!!!" and then someone else tagging it like they remembered the events in the drawing happening.
>>9990>discord botServer I mod for banned it, pfft. The other mods had no idea what it was about, we're all too old for this shit, but they immediately went "this sounds like a way to dodge permission blocks and responsibility for rule breaking messages." We've had plenty of kids make side accounts to jump around upload restrictions and mutes. Like
>>9994 suggests, the moment we turn down any kid demanding the bot or for people to respect their system personas they get in a huff and leave the server of their own accord. When they haven't been turned down they spend all their time pretending to be in distress then coming back 10mins later to say "that was my other self, man I hate it when that happens!" It's equivalent to teenage boys who pretend to be aloof mysterious bad guys at school, only to look like an awkward brat with a totally black wardrobe. Chuuniism of the west.
No.10003
When I was younger and more prone to social validation, I became friends with a group of people that made me ashamed of being a fujo. Our main interest was FFXIV so most of our talks would be about it. They would constantly make fun of catboy players (viera boys were not in the game yet), saying that Square pandering to "cock obsessed" (as they would put it) women is the reason why female characters get nothing.
When I first made my account I chose a catboy but then Fantasia'd into male Hyur because I did not want them to make fun of me… it is so embarrassing for me to remember.
They were complaining all the time, especially about male characters like Haurchefant/Graha being popular because in their mind they were creepy stalking perverts who didn't know any boundaries. I can sort of understand where they were coming from because they played as female WOLs so that behaviour reminded them of men irl but as someone with a male WOL I never had an issue with them, I felt guilty about liking them and pretended to hate them too. Naturally, they whined a lot about M/M ships being popular so I had to keep quiet about shipping Estinien/Alphinaud and Zenos/WOL as well. We had a falling out after about a year of talking and I am so glad I don't talk to them anymore. I haven't played the game in 2 years and do not plan on ever coming back.
No.10004
>>9953What surprises me is that I've been able to brush off being caught masturbating without too much embarrassment but this has had long lasting impact.
No.10005
>>10003It really sucks that you had that experience. I'm happy that I managed to meet chill people though unfortunately my own problem with the game is me hating the direction the MSQ took. If I weren't in a static I would've sold my ingame house and taken a long break.
No.10009
I really like the Chinese theme for Arcane, but I learnt of it through two male vtubers dueting so I can only think of it as an admiration bordering worship love song between two dudes. I wish there was a proper recording of the duet since they stopped before the end of the final chorus, and the only studio recordings were individual covers. They're too clean and the one who did deeper vocals is much higher in his solo cover.
No.10022
>>10005Thank you nonnie. I have seen many complaints about Dawntrail so I thought it would be better for me to save money and not buy it. Endwalker was a satisfying conclusion to the story for me. It's cool that you raid, after my experience I never wanted to talk to people in FFXIV again, so I played solo and was too shy to ever apply for a static. I was always a casual player anyway.
No.10024
>>10022Honestly the more I think about it the more I feel like I don't actually like raiding, I just wanted to have friends. I'm a very awkward introverted person who sucks at socialising, holding a conversation and keeping in touch with people but the static is a way for me to stay in contact with a group of people and joke around on voice chat and also discuss other games in the discord side channel. The actual process of savage raid prog is exhausting and I wouldn't recommend it. I just wish you had gotten to meet better people but it's still possible you would've quit after Endwalker anyway. I've been coping with my negative DT feelings by latching on to the male bunny NPCs that I have become obsessed with(Erenville and Dancing green) and looking at all the fanart and such people made of them.
No.10025
>>10024I hate how MMO communities (specifically WoW and XIV) skew way too hard with "gamer" types. They used to be REALLY good for finding (lifelong!) friends in but that changed forever around 2010 for WoW and then WoWfugees ruined XIV in the same way around the end of ShB.
>>10003>Estinien/Alphinaud and Zenos/WOL Based. I'm sorry your friend group sucked, XIV is fujo game.
No.10026
I really can't stand people who get offended if you even try and dare to criticize something they like. You’re forced to tiptoe around them just because you’re not obsessing over it, and think objectively. It's so annoying.
No.10027
>>10026I am a hypocrite because not only does my autism put me in a volatile state when someone dislikes things I like in what I read as unfairly (It's genuinely hard for me to disengage from this mentality), I am immediately annoyed when a friend sends me something I unfairly judge because I do not care.
The best I've managed has been to let go, and stop letting my obsession cloud my viewpoint- but it is not easy. I usually try to tell said friends it's just the unmediated 'tism (undiagnosed as a child and unfortunately can't afford an adult diagnosis for benefits) and accept that we have vary different values on what we love. But man it is hard
No.10033
>>10027I think a lot of times criticism comes from a place of care. At least in my case If I criticize something is because I want to see it improve or reach its full potential. If I didn’t care I'd just ignore it.
For example I like the Harry Potter series, so I am critical of the movies and some parts in the book.
No.10042
>>10033I would agree, while it's easy to throw out one line insults once you get to the point of becoming a critic and write multi paragraph complaints you must enjoy the media in some capacity otherwise you wouldn't dedicate that much time to it.
No.10047
>>10046What are your thoughts on Jesus x Lucifer? They are brothers in Mormonism kek
No.10048
>>10046idk why, but I think is fake
No.10049
>>10046idk why, but I think is fake
No.10055
>>10047I didn't know Mormons considered them brothers, that's interesting. Never considered them as a ship but the thought of older brother Lucifer tempting Jesus and begging for his attention is funny.
The only other man I shipped Jesus with aside from John was Judas. People treat it as a crackship but I unironically think they're a great ship. Judas regretting his betrayal and later killing himself out of guilt is prime angst potential.
Btw, picrel is from a manga adapting Biblical stories where Judas was drawn as a cute anime boy instead of an ugly jewish man. Imagining him looking like this definitely makes the ship better.
>>10048This is not fake, I actually shipped them. If you read the Bible with fujo goggles on, you will spot all the homoeroticism easily. There are scholarly debates on whether Jonathan and David were actually gay or not going on to this day.
No.10056
>>10055>Jonathan and David Oh yes the tragic "I love you more than my wife no homo" ship.
No.10072
>>10061>>10056what about the thing with Bathsheba?
No.10159
I don't know how to describe this but I really really hate this type of fandom person.
The type that has the safest, most unproblematic opinions ever and has the most deadpan-y humor which relies solely on making the most 'family-friendly' type of jokes, the type that constantly has to same something about queer/gay rights all the time, retweets nothing but trump hate/palestine gore or fundraisers or whatever, most definitely in some kind of leftie LGBT spectrum but it's not as simple as just saying "average leftie", it's like this weird chewed sanitized fandom person that feels as if they just don't have any real genuine care for a franchise or the material they supposedly 'obssess' over, that there's this odd feeling about them that feels rancid, like the type of person that must be extremely miserable to talk with unless you completely think like them.
No.10168
>>10160>for someone that's actually willing to listen :)These types always have an aura of passive-aggressiveness and insincerity, and think hiding behind a wall of "queer" moral superiority will make up for it
How anyone can interact with them without being put off by how exhausting they are is beyond me
No.10171
I feel like shota art is making me a p*dophile. It all started with some Holostars EN fan art on /vt/.
I think I may need to pivot my obsessions to something else…
No.10172
>>10168Pretty much everyone on tiktok seems like they're passive aggressive in every post kek.
>>10171Probably not the best imageboard since we're fine with shota here kek.
No.10174
>>10173Maybe I should just hyperfixate on some yume media like Love And Deepspace instead.
No.10175
You ever realize something you used to love is just poorly written? I feel bad going back to older fanworks I love because I'm too cynical now and I'm mentally shitting on something probably written by a high schooler.
>>10174I would never wish a gacha upon another, can I interest you in JoJo? Exact opposite and maybe by the time you're caught up Steel Ball Kino will have an adaptation.
No.10177
>>10171Are you having intrusive thoughts about real children that you find disgusting? If that’s the case, you might wanna see a general psychiatrist or a licensed ocd specialist if possible. I used to have violent intrusive thoughts and while I was never diagnosed with ocd (I never mentioned those specific thoughts to my therapist), I was diagnosed with depression because I did mention the suicidal thoughts and was given an ssri. I haven’t had any intrusive thoughts for a while now and I’m off that ssri.
No.10185
>>10171You're brain is probably gaslighting yourself into believing you're one due to the proship vs. antiship moralfagging crap. Most of my advice is just a repeat of what others have stated, but it would be best for you to stop interacting with that content for a while and fill your head with something else you enjoy just as passionately. Then, maybe after a year or so, try to reflect on yourself and see how you feel.
The vtuber space (especially hololive) is filled with pedo crap (surprisingly from both genders but still dominantly male) and has a lot of mentally ill fans. Most of the corpo male vtubers are pretty normal (stop watching Flayon!!!!)
If you still feel like this, it might be best to seek professional help. I know it's scary, but it's better than hurting a child.