/ot/ - Off-Topic

>>13124
>>13116
This conversation reminds me of that time I watched a video about otome game fans and found out there's a service some will use where a female cosplayer dresses up as a male otome game character to go on a date with them in-character.

>>13118
There's a fairly obvious difference between roleplaying online where you can't even see the girl and rolling around in bed and getting frisky with a girl irl.

>>13124
>>13129
Yeah I meant making out and doing Other Stuff, but I just feel like. It's somehow straight to a degree. Maybe you can't be fully straight while wanting to have lesbian Yaoi Cosplay sex but I also don't think you can be a lesbian and be into that? On the other hand I have never done explicit roleplay so I don't know. Wouldn't it be kind of gay too? Idk.
>>13126
That or making out in genderbent yuri cosplay of your ships… Need fujo gf…

>>13118
>Do you think fujos who roleplay yaoi smut are also gay?
I feel very gay when I can tell it's working and they're getting off on it.

>>13129
the only way I would be okay with cuntboy would be in cosplay with another fujo

>>13114
I feel bad befriending other fujos because I fear I will do this (again), feel like a pervert and get my heart broken
>>13128
I watched a video like that too. Getting paid to dress up and talk to cute nerdy girls sounds like a dream job sigh

>>13137
At that point, its not really cuntboy, is it? It's two women in cosplay having lesbian sex.

>>13143
I feel like it's a bonus if you are into cuntboy stuff, no? I love cuntboy on cuntboy, I'm afraid, so it's just hotter to me lol

>>13143
I know, I was being silly with my post

>>13144
That's just two women tribbing

>>13146
I mean, yes and no? It's less gay than being a lesbian I think. You have to be bisexual in some way to be into either cuntboy or futa, in my opinion. Neither lesbians nor gay men can like that stuff.

>>13147
Cuntboy on cuntboy is still gay. It’s not like futa where there’s visible tits on a body with a dick. Cuntboy is often depicted as a non-loli flat chested woman.

>>13152
I partially got into BL because josei smut kept/keeps reusing the same big-boobed, baby-faced and ultra-naïve female MCs who rarely have any personality beyond "over-worked" or "timid". It's sad and strange that to get smut with short-haired, flat-chested women in pseudo-hetero works, you have to slap "cunt-boy" as a label. GL manga has similar problems where a lot of the MCs are generic moe-ish school girls (or still moe-ish adult women that don't look like adult women) which doesn't appeal to me- at least BL has more variations in art and ages.

>>13152
Not really, most cuntboys are drawn androgynously, not really that feminine. Plus there's people drawing really masculine/male-looking cuntboy as well. Admittedly not something I am into but I also don't like cis boy characters who look very masculine. Love bishies and shotas. In any case, it's different enough from yuri that imo I couldn't be into cuntboy/cuntboy stuff if I wasn't into men in the first place.

I wish I could be around other chill women but a lot of LC types are insane about BL and underage characters and "degeneracy". It doesn't matter if it's fictional.

>>13161
Aren’t most LC users twitterfags? I always assumed that was the reason for their moralfagging.

>>13162
A lot of the newer ones are twitterfags, most of the older ones are 4chan refugees and not moralfags. Sad that there’s so much moralfagging on a site where people were meant to gossip and laugh at cows instead of moralfagging.

>>13163
nta but you're missing the large tumblrina population that's on there. Many of the threads concern tumblr drama/current or ex-tumblrinas and those are usually pretty active which probably explains that.

>>13161
LC's userbase changed a lot over the years. It was full of more or less nerdy women from /cgl/interested in all sorts things over ten years ago, now we have to deal with insane anons who don't belong there at all. Like anons complaining that others often talk about Japanese or Korean pop culture. Or anons who think LC is a radfem imageboard and not a gossip imageboard so they're offended when anons gossip about women or talk about their favorite evil and problematic anime.

>>13171
I fully moved on from tumblr long ago, so these new threads surprise me a little. It looks like tumblr a lot, way more than I thought, but only for the worse.

>>13137
Cosplay sex sounds great until she's so worried about damaging or staining the cosplay all of the excitement is replaced with stress. Masturbating to the fantasy beats the reality.

>>13162
There's a split between this really weird breed of new gen tiktok farmers who hate men but hate other women more and come there to air out their grievances, and then the kiwifarms pickmes who come there to seethe at other women while also longing for their attention. Both of them are racist and homophobic though and barely able to read a post longer than two sentences.

>>13114
Honestly I know people are sick to death of fujos saying this, but I have zero interest in men irl and dating another fujo has always been my dream. Real men are hideous and unattractivr, even the "pretty boy" ones. I tried it too, they just disgust me and do nothing for me. Their masculinity is a turn off. A tomboy woman in a suit though is the hottest thing on the planet. Feminine ones too— I just would love a girlfriend I could fujo out with. But anime boys hit differently from real ones for some reason.

But anyway, more on topic, I was on rednote a while ago and discovered there's an entire industry in China where professional crossplayers will be paid for dates from otherwise straight girls. These girls will get to go on the date of their dreams from their irl husbando, all ic, and often contact the same crossplayer over and over as like a regular thing. When asked by confused foreigners why they wouldn't hire a male cosplayer, the answer is generally that it would feel less safe. They wouldn't trust the intentions of the men, nor would it feel like they were actually with the husbando the same way they feel with the female cosplayers. It lets them completely immerse themselves in the fantasy. So it turns out that the demand for anime boys played by real girls is international.

>>13193
God, there seems to be so many of us fujos who want to date another fujo. What the fuck do we do?! You sound like a dream girlfriend nona. There's this fujo butch youtuber who has married her fujo butch girlfriend recently and I'm so jealous. Every fujo needs this…

>When asked by confused foreigners why they wouldn't hire a male cosplayer, the answer is generally that it would feel less safe.
I know a lot of girls irl who would die of happiness if there were male cosplayers who did this. These women are gay lmao

>>13194
I don't even know who that youtuber is and I'm also jealous. She's living our dream…
But even just finding fujo friends irl can be challenging, let alone one who wants to date another girl. I've only ever met one fujosister irl and we became good friends, but she's a straight misandrist which although based, means that I am far outside her nonexistent dating pool.
I don't think a fujo dating app is realistic to expect, so in the meantime all we can hope for is to somehow run into eachother one day.

I wish I had a gf to cosplay breaking bad yaoi with me…

>>13194
>What the fuck do we do?!
Go to conventions and be prepared to talk to strangers. Make comments that you're interested in women and others will find it easier to take their shot. The girls are out there, they just need to know you exist.

>>13161
Try WC. It's super chill.

>>13193
>Honestly I know people are sick to death of fujos saying this, but
I will never be tired of hearing this. Fujo4Fujo is the dream.
Maybe too TMI but can I ask what your experience with men was like? I relate hardcore to everything you're saying, but I have never tried being with men even though I'm not a lesbian. I think they are hot in theory but then I see a man irl or a d*ck and I'm so disgusted. I don't know why. I swear I am technically attracted to men but there's some level of underlying disgust about them that makes it so that I'm curious about my heterosexual attraction but not enough to overcome the ew factor of irl men.

>>13114
When I was younger we used to cosplay as our yaoi ships with my then girlfriend and I really miss that time. I've literally never had interest in IRL men and every day I dream of marrying a fujo but I have yet to meet her.

>>13118
>I just feel like larping yaoi is het by proxy in a way.
How is a woman having sex with another woman in any way heterosexual. Good lord the takes I have to read sometimes.

>>13193
OT (though I support your overall message), seeing the ridiculous filters from Chinese social media always take me out kek. Back on topic, but I feel like there's probably a tonne of fujo x fujo in East and South East Asia since they're more open about their fujoness and seem to have more irl communities about it

>>13200
>I think they are hot in theory but then I see a man irl or a d*ck and I'm so disgusted.
>I swear I am technically attracted to men but
Anon…

>>13203
By het by proxy I mean that you do need to be attracted to men to fantasize about you and another woman being gay men while having sex.
>>13210
No, I really am. I can even get off to het porn as long as there's no penetration. It's just men irl who idk. For the most part look unappealing. Or maybe it's that I'm still scared of them to a degree, so any interest I may have in them is also having to share mental space with "if he touches me I'll call the police". But I AM technically into men. They're just gross and scary, unlike anime boys who are cute and peggable or whatever.

>>13212
>you do need to be attracted to men to fantasize about you and another woman being gay men while having sex.
Well, no. By that logic, people who roleplay stuff like doctor/patient in bed need to be attracted to doctors, or people who roleplay incest (daddy or mommy kink) need to be attracted to their parents. If someone wishes their gf was a man instead during sex then I see what you mean, but I highly doubt any bi or lesbian fujo wishes that.

>>13200
Ayrt I relate a lot to what you're saying too. I don't necessarily identify as a lesbian because I always think "what if", but in practice that what if has never happened, even when I really tried to make it happen.
It's been frustrating for a lot of my friends. I will meet a man who is good looking, successful, kind, intelligent, shares some hobbies or whatever, and is highly interested. I think that in theory, he should be perfect. My friends go wild saying hes such a good man, I should marry him, etc etc. So I give him a shot. And then once I see him giving me those soft, half lidded eyes like he's stuck in a dream, or I feel his hands on my skin, my skin absolutely fucking crawls and I start to hate him. There's something just so repulsive about him that it makes me angry, even if he didn't do anything wrong, the whole thing is going storybook. I want to put as much distance between myself and him as possible, I never want to see him again, but it's always fine until romance and touch comes into the occasion. Like it makes me physically sick.
I feel like I'm missing out on a lot in life acting like this. I'm not quite but almost 30 and still haven't had a serious relationship, and people have started questioning why. It makes me sad when I see men who are otherwise perfect but I can't bring myself to return any feelings. I don't get these feelings of disgust with woman though, but other than some quick fun with girls who are likely straight and experimenting, it's hard to find lesbians who are still single. It may be evil to say, but right now I'm kind of praying on the downfall of the LDR of a hot butch I know who has been super protective of me in the past and whose relationship is already struggling. When I see her, it almost feels like she's something I dreamed up for myself in some gooey late night, self indulgent romantic fantasy. Instead of being disgusted by lovestruck eyes, I kind of wish she would look like that at me.
But overall, you asked and thats my experience with trying to date men.

I'm in a discord server that bans shota on and off server. I don't or won't draw shota, but the off server rules make me paranoid and make me want to leave or keep my distance. I also struggle with moral ocd type thoughts

>>13213
That's not the same logic at all, because being into specific stuff like "doctors" or "teachers" or whatever is learned. Sexual orientation is fully innate. If you find the fantasy of having sex with men as a man then you need to have some attraction to men at least, even if you are having sex with another woman.

>>13216
Off server? As in they stalk your socials to see what you post? The fuck kind of 1984 wrongthink shit is this.

>>13216
Oh yeah I'm in one where they ban incest off server too. Admin has never looked at the other servers I'm in.

>>13222
It's so if their regulars all start DMing website screencaps saying "I don't like them" they have justification to ban someone.

When I was a teen there was this forum that you'd get spam emails about all the time. They'd come from random personal email addresses and if you talked shit back you got a real person upset at you. I never thought too much about them until I started going to an event that was like the only con we had in the region. I started hearing from friends in class that the owner of the forum was turning up to this event and was giving girls alcohol after hours so never hang around the hotels after dark. One friend started campaigning against him after he began picking up underage girls and making them go around with buckets asking for "charity donations." He got banned from the hotels and venue but started advertising his own events not far away.

After graduation I didn't have contact with that friend any more, and started only hearing about the forum owner through EncyclopediaDramatica. There were some pretty funny stories and photos of him getting arrested and his first attempt at hosting a con ending up with police dispersal orders, dealer's room thefts, and a big fight between staff. He was eventually investigated for grooming minors and sexual assault.

I made new friends locally who were a year or two younger than me and after a few years one of them told me he was going to events run by this forum. Kept going to them year after year and saying they were fun. I didn't know how to explain to him and it was awkward because he didn't see anything wrong. He wasn't a teenage girl.

Recently I learned that 20 years later the forum owner is still grooming minors. The police charges were dropped because victims didn't come forward but a number of people have shared messages he sent them when they were under 17. He retaliated by making threads about them on /cgl/ and doxxed some people who called him out. He's still running "conventions" and has over ten of them across the country. Recent reports say they're full of 3D print dragons and AI slop but the teenagers are still going because they're cheap and local.

I feel like I never said enough to discourage my friend in the past. It wasn't on me to stop this guy but I treated it like it was silly internet drama that nobody offline would understand me explaining. Nobody online takes it seriously either so he's probably still posting about his victims on LC and nobody knows. The fact he's always gotten away with this disgusts me. The fact he's gotten away with it and is making so much money from dogshit events too.

>>13222
>>13225
Yeah I guess it's so that people can dm screenshots to get you booted. I'm wondering if shota = any underage anime character = 17yo anime boys as well. Apparently there's been a lot of drama over it. Multiple times too.

>>13219
In the fantasy of having sex with women, you are fantasizing about having sex with men as a man, by larping gay male sex. So you need to en straight enough to be into sex with men.

>>13230
>In the fantasy of having sex with women, you are fantasizing about you and your partner being related, by larping sister incest. So you need to attracted to your sister to be into sex with sisters.
Have you ever had sex? I don't think you understand what roleplaying means.

I feel kind of bad about it, but I love how much image detection AI has improved OCR. No more trying to puzzle out the radicals in that one kanji the OCR site can't understand so I can look it up on Jisho, now I can just pop the whole page into Google Lens and get the text extracted perfectly and translated as well. It makes reading raw manga and doujins so much easier for someone who doesn't know much Japanese.

I hate being in my mid 30's as someone who enjoys OCs and roleplay. The friend that I spent years building a cast of characters with has drifted away from it after getting married, and finding new partners to write with makes me want to pull my teeth out. Discord groups are mostly people in their 20s and forum RP is long dead.
I know it's not her fault, but I kind of resent how easy it was for my friend to let go of something we put so much energy in to. Our tastes in characters, storylines, ship dynamics, and settings were identical. Finding that again seems like an impossible task, and I feel like a psycho for mourning our friendship when we still talk outside of that and play games together. I know I'll get over this, and I'm happy that she's happy in her life. It's just a part of growing that means priorities can change.
I'm not ashamed of my hobby either, but I wish there were ways to connect with other older writing fujos that have distinction between their characters and themselves. I'm not looking to be someone's self-indulgent stand-in, I just want to dabble and have fun with ideas. I should have treasured the LJ days while I had them.

>>13257
I have no idea how to find fun OC or roleplay groups either as someone getting older. I wish I could.

>>13257
I miss my old friends so much and the stuff we used to do… I can definitely relate.

>>13257
Nothing makes me sadder than thinking about the LJ days and then looking at a horde of 19-25 yos on Discord. Its hard to find fandom friends as you get older.

>>13257
I'm sorry for your loss.
I miss roleplaying so much. My last rp partner kept giving me one-sentence replies and nothing to work with. It was so fucking annoying. People have become generally more antisocial and uncreative…
Honestly, it might've been easier to still find rp's if forum sites didn't die out. I think dA still has their forum so maybe you gotta chance looking there?


Damn, it's so over for me I'm 26 and a neet who's never been able to make a real friend (most of my 'friends' have been more like acquaintances I would try to get to know them, but they've never reciprocated, so the relationship died out. And my old online friends just stopped coming online.) I've been wanting to change, but it's looking grim…