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Confess anything you wanna get off your chest.
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>>19 51 posts and 9 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. No.7232
>>7229I can't get into it. I play FGO and I like some of the dudes there. But I just can't care enough about them or ship them. Maybe I would if they were part of a proper Fate series like Strange Fake or whatever, but as things stand there is just not enough interesting chemistry between them, even for those that have potential.
The central issue is that gacha is inherently self-insert pandery, so almost every fucking thing a character says is related to (you). 90% of the dialogues are with (you) or discussing the next mission while (you) are listening to their plan. It's so boring.
I wish we could just get the Indian servants from FGO, Moriarty and Douman (and few others) in an actual own good story (without a player character MC).
No.7234
>>7233It's got the Homestuck problem–wide and shallow cast means its free real estate for headcanons/projection. Real Build-A-Blorbo Workshop shit. For whatever reason that's an appealing sandbox to a lot of artists/writers.
In just this year alone there are over 4k new fics of a ship (Childe/Zhongli, 18k total) that has gone 3 years without a meaningful interaction. It's hard not to be butthurt sometimes.
No.7235
>>7232You should watch some of the anime movies based on it. There are ones adapting the chapters of the game and are way more engaging and less self-inserty than PNGs yelling at (you). I'd also rec F/SN and Fate/Zero but not as a fujo rec, just because they're good.
Personally the biggest issue I have with Gacha boys is just that there often isn't enough "screentime" for each of them to be worth being invested in. And to add to that I inherently just don't enjoy the energy bar, forced battle, freemium format of them. I got yelled at by someone for saying I'd rather just buy Twst outright than deal with the "gacha" and the same is true for all of them. Even the ones I like such as FGO I fall off of because I don't want to do dailys.
Oh well, I can only hope shit like Arknights or Afterschool Summoners someday has an anime so I can actually find out what the plot of them are.
No.7250
>>7248I fujo sperged for ages about F/Z. And yeah I mainly shipped Gil/Kirei. Fantastic ship. The menhera priest and the golden devil that tempts him. Also, the series brought us Iskandar/Waver, another great ship IMO.
Although I think that nonna didn't even want to imply that F/Z isn't fujo relevant and rather that it's good on principle, so that you should watch it even without the fujo content. I agree. I fucking love Urobuchi.
No.7253
>>7234>It's got the Homestuck problem–wide and shallow cast means its free real estate for headcanons/projection.As someone who is unfortunate enough to be a Homestuck in 2024 (tragic, I know), it's actually insane how different fan interpretations are from what's actually written in the text. I think, in both cases, it often comes from fans who didn't read the comic/play the game. Like, the characters' shallowness doesn't help, but I think both of these fandoms have a high number of people who just never engaged with the source material. I do think a different group of these headcanons also come from wanting to give depth to characters who might've been denied the spotlight, but in the end, it just leads to insane fan interpretations that don't resemble canon at all. It's pretty frustrating.
>>7233It's a shame because some of the character designs look legitimately appealing, but I personally can't get into 99% of gacha games because I can't get attached to characters who have no real basis for me to feel anything toward them. I think this problem will keep getting worse, because the game's cast can only continue expanding.
No.7262
>>7232I like media with a large cast of characters. But if it's not written in a way that allows anyone to get the limelight, then I can't be bother to really care. With every new character there's more added bullshit that feels very "remember the new guy" like that character always existed but we're just now getting to learn about them. This is coming from somebody who gets bored when the main cast overstays their welcome. I want things to change, but not a way that shits on the legacy the previous gen paved. Idk, maybe I just have adhd and seek new shit like candy. Kinda makes a bad fujo now that I think about it….
No.7268
>>72534Chords jumpscare lmfao
How is modern Homestuck fandom? I get bits and pieces of it through dork osmosis but have 0 interest in the epilogue (apparently Dirk is evil?). I kinda have the itch to reread it though. There's a thread in /wes/ if you care to write a short report (coincidentally also talking about the 4Chords artist).
>>7262You might like The First Law (book series). Big cast of major and minor characters that get POV time.
No.7272
>>7268>How is modern Homestuck fandom?NTA but the impression I get is that they're kind of like cockroaches who have survived a nuclear blast because I have no idea how anybody's interest in the characters survived those terrible epilogues. Any lingering affection I might have had for the fandom was killed off by the conclusion and now my only fond memories are of the music. Even the original comic is fucked because of the flash experience getting replaced with shitty Youtube videos.
No.7273
>>7233I am cursed because I hate designs like that and I feel like 80% of modern manga and anime look exactly like this.
I just dislike the body types and hate those faces that are nothing but a white circle with two colored dots and a small "-" for the mouth. At best the dots/eyes are slightly lengthier instead of being perfect circles. The hair styles also look similar to me. Always bangs that cover half of the face and looking super feminine. I am just not a fan of it and feel the same towards these guys as I do with moe blobs.
I feel like I would be so much happier if I could get into this for all the content that exist for such types of characters.
No.7275
>>7273Moe is a pox upon society in general. I miss the fun art styles of the past, everything is so bland now.
No.7278
>>7273So you like 90s and 80s stuff I presume?
No.7279
>>7268>How is modern Homestuck fandom?Terrible. I just ignore it, honestly. Fan art is plagued by absolutely hideous shit, and so much fanfiction is just blatantly written by people who either did not read the original comic, or somehow sustained amnesia and forgot everything but the characters' names. I don't think the epilogues helped this at all because they kind of confirmed/validated the worst "headcanons" (I use that term loosely, because it's basically just rewriting a character to make them fit the author's ideal) of the fanbase. It somewhat helps that all new material is basically just fanfiction, so while I normally have a difficult time ignoring canon, I can just pretend it doesn't exist and enjoy the parts I like (which is basically just the original comic). The fanbase really attempts to retroactively make certain plot elements/"problematic" parts of the early comic 'okay' by forcing their headcanons onto characters or disavowing those particular parts. People also tend to take things waaay too seriously when the comic is supposed to be kind of silly, which I'd argue is a large part of its appeal. If you can believe it, there's also an admittedly small subset of people who insist the epilogues and sequel are every bit as good as the original, if not better (which I would say is a conclusion you could only come to if you were suffering from some kind of delusion). I know the Homestuck fanbase has always been ass, but it's objectively more embarrassing now that most of the fans are well into adulthood as opposed to preteens and teenagers.
>apparently Dirk is evil?Oh my God, don't get me started on this. It completely violates the development his character received, and basically walks back on one of my favorite parts of the original comic. The biggest issue with the sequel and epilogues is how characters' development and original personalities are overwritten for the sake of either drama or to fit the authors' personal preferences.
>There's a thread in /wes/ if you care to write a short reportI've considered posting there before, but I'm always worried about annoying people on the site with it lol. I know Homestuck is lame, and people are right to hate it and its fanbase, so I try not to irritate people. Sorry for this long reply, by the way!
>>7272>I have no idea how anybody's interest in the characters survived those terrible epilogues.I ignore the epilogues. Weak answer, I know, but it's basically just fanfiction. So, I treat it the same way I treat all of the shitty fics out there.
>Even the original comic is fucked because of the flash experience getting replaced with shitty Youtube videos.The Unofficial Collection does help in this regard. No need for the YouTube videos, and it has all of the playable segments and stuff.
No.7281
>>7275I wonder where it even comes from, psychologically. Like sure there were always people that were into it and that's fine. But why did it become mainstream?
Like is it the influence of men? Since they usually want blobs because they're just the extreme form of a super soft, harmless waifu with exaggerated female traits like doll faces. Or is a general fear of everything that isn't ten times as weak as you like the women that consider any 2D male older than 12 scary unless it's a trap? Is it some obsession with children?
It's all so weird to me. Though it might just be that the anime industry is reaping what it sowed. The moe look is unique for anime and adjacent stuff, so it attracted the people who are into it, pandered to them more and eventually not much else was left. The fans that prefer other shit probably ignore anime nowadays and watch live action or cartoons, which would explain why /a/ is so fucking dead outside of mainstream shounen threads.
No.7313
>>7279As someone who got into homestuck around 2012 I definitely have a lot of good memories of it but I lost interest during the longer hiatuses near the end of the story and only went back once I heard it ended. Sounds like I was justified in my decision to not read the epilogues or anything afterwards and just keep my happy memories of the original comic.
No.7335
>>7268>How is modern Homestuck fandom? They are fucking unbearable. Like any old/dead franchise these days, genderspecials have invaded it and corroded the characters until they're basically unrecognizable. I've been a long time fan since the beginning and it hard for me to see what the fandom has become. Though I do blame Andrew Hussie and friends for destroying most of the franchise. There's so much drama from him and the original team and their antics have push most of the main fans away from the serie.
No.7347
>>6421Warning: cringe alert textwall
I hate to say it but I am one of those legit spergs whose mental health largely depends on their gay fictional cartoon characters. It's genuinely the only thing in life that makes me happy and the only way of escaping reality and delving into a mental state that makes me feel all kinds of positive emotions.
It never lasts long which makes me depend on the short, happy times harder and leech off of them like a starving vampire. My pairings/characters always die and usually they get treated badly before that. That shit will instantly throw me back into my usual state of depression but with the added feeling of heaviness and a deep sadness, opposed to the blank state devoid of feelings which is my usual state whenever I am not into a ship.
I wish this shit was studied because it makes it impossible to live normally and I can't feel shit or enjoy anything without it. I think I was always mentally ill but as long as I was a kid nobody cared about me being trapped in daydreams and LARPing fictional characters or OCs. But once you grow up you can't dream anymore and with that shit gone the only thing left was bleakness.
Canon characters that I love not only individually but as couple is the closest thing to this dream state I can get without upping my insanity to 100. No idea why nothing real can give me any of these feelings, I even tried to explain it to a therapist but it's useless, it's uncharted terrain to them and they just tell me to find shit to love in real life. Well guess what, I tried for decades and failed to find it.
No fucking idea man, but when I imagine my favs and thinking up stories with them I feel like god himself looking down and feeling the joy of his sentient creatures living. The fact that their origin and personality weren't created by me makes it even better, it makes them feel more real, since they also exist outside of my mind and are a topic I can talk and sperg about with other fujos.
When my last big ship and the guys were killed it legit felt like I got stabbed into the chest lol. It's so dumb saying this but I believe this is how a broken heart feels like (I was never in love with a real person so not sure). Shit lasted a whole week and I could barely even eat and couldn't explain it to the last family member I have. Shit was followed by a phase of depression and eventually coping by making more fanart since there is no real alternative. Better sticking to a tragic ship than having nothing again.
No.7356
>>7229I'm an autist who throws a fit every time someone calls TouRabu "gacha" to the point that reading this made me think you were talking about me.
>>7234>Real Build-A-Blorbo Workshop shitGave me a good chuckle. I admit I like sandboxing with characters, but I really like working within guidelines so I'll judge someone's works based on whether they included certain traits. It's satisfying when something you thought was a headcanon stretch ends up in the official media and actually you just understood him this whole time.
>>7239I have taken characters and made "old retiree" AUs out of them for shits and giggles, and it's amazing how much dumb absurd behavior your brain accepts from someone older. It's especially good with stuck up tsundere, either they're past caring how mean they appear or they're transparently pathetic. Grumbly old man moe.
No.7388
>>7385This confession paired with that picture reminded me of when I watched NGE as a kid, thought the TV broke when Shinji
was hesitating to kill Kaworu and got scared my parents would accuse me of breaking the TV and kick my ass. And I used to sneak at night in the living room when I was like 15 to watch Gravitation on TV but missed a few episodes and would change the channel as soon as I heard footsteps.
No.7399
>>7398That's such a cute idea anona,makes me a lil sad I don't save and remember a lot of the really good oneshots I've read
I'd love to give recommendations but first I'd need to know what kinda stuff you like
No.7401
>>7398You could always ask for recs in the recommendation thread. Not exactly what you want, probably, but I think it could be a good place to start! I'd also like to help, if you could tell us what you like.
No.7527
>>7002Just now seeing this
>I'm still part of a private chat Yup, I do that too, I use discord like most people. It's relaxing, nice to just have people without the abrasion of having a feed filled with just any and all information.
>it's too publicI wish I was easier to make closed off spaces anywhere but discord, sigh~ Maybe I should make my own dreamwidth comm, for fellow weirdos to talk casually haha.
Really not everyone needs to know everything. Sometimes, you don't need people listening in. Tired of the fear of gawkers
>By the way, how is life in the suburbs?It does suck balls! Mines a bit older, so I we the charm of older brick row houses, but it's just the distance of everything. I don't have car so it's hard to go anywhere fun. Ubers will drain your money, the bus will take a hour when a drive might take 15 minutes, all while lacking the nature you at least get in the countyside even though that also comes with its own distance from others.
>identical houses gave me an eerie vibe I hate the new identical houses man, so soulless. When you say "liminal" you're right. These outside spaces are ones that no one besides kids hang out in. As an adult it's a transitory space between your house and where ever else you plan on driving off to. This doesn't apply as much if the houses have porches though.
It is isolating. Luckily, I got a really chatty neighbor recently and he's nice, but generally, it's mostly just "hello" with neighbors and not much further. My grandparent's don't have any friends near by, my mom is not friends with any neighbors, only my cousin does because she's in school and has some opportunity to encounter the people near by regularly with some reason. I walk around but there's no place to see the same people regularly enough to ever connect.
I complain, but I persist regardless. I think I'll take a bus into the city sometime soon I think!
No.7548
>>7536>I want to come up with a way to rationalize mpregI like mpreg in the fantastical way of the seme going "I'm going to breed you" to the uke and maybe some funny "haha guess I'm pregnant" result by the end but not actual pregnancy? Like, I can't actually imagine the mpreg resulting in genuine childbirth, in that case it'd be too weird. Either assbabies or dickbirth and after seeing a dickbirth doujin once I don't wanna see it again.
The alternative is giving them a pussy but that's also not really the point.
Unless the character is non-human, I can consider it and pleading to god people don't actually take it as me transfying characters. But otherwise, it's too hard.
No.7583
>>7536I lean towards realism more than anything, but mine some breaks from it like the lack of homophobia or ukes feel like a third type of sex. I don't know why, but I like that in my stuff.
No.7584
>>7536There are little things that can make a fantasy better. Blowjobs are better in fiction if you pretend that cum tastes nice.
No.7683
I really like when female genderbends of characters are out of shape and have pudgy tummies. Maybe it's just because there isn't enough art of regular guys with a squishy tummy (as opposed to stupidly fat OOC) but every so often someone will do it for a genderbend and make cute comics about it. When a character is a shut in nerd with bad eating habits it never makes sense to make them slender and glamorous anyway, bones or skinnyfat, pick one.
No.7770
Americans don't know how lucky they are to have freedom of speech. I wish I didn't have to worry about being arrested for yaoi.
It genuinely recked my mental health for months when I realised that some of the highschool setting stuff I had, which is not even a genre I particularly like, is probably illegal and that if it was found on me or if it was even found that I had intentionally accessed it before I'd be considered a danger to the public and end up with a sex offence on my record.
No.7795
Rped as pt on a chatsite going through her usual shtick of
>why am i dying
>why am i old
>i'm not property i am a MAN
to see what response it would get. The zoomer tried comforting me and telling me i was not old or fat and that i'm a true and valid man.
No.8048
Life is very stressful at the moment and I think it is the reason I am having frequent intrusive thoughts while masturbating. Normally I pause when they happen but today I forced myself to try and ignore them and I think I came thinking about groceries I forgot to buy. Ashamed by this but needing to share.
No.8049
>>7795What site? I wanna troll the zoomies too
No.8054
Decided to spend the last day before coming back to work in full fujo neet mode. Played a game until 5AM at which point I decided to write 5K of self-indulgent gay shit for said game, in the meantime ate fast food and drank energy drinks.
It's the first time in many years when I have a chance to do this. I forgot how refreshing and invigorating it can be. For once writing didn't feel like a fucking chore and I had a lot of fun while gaming despite not sleeping for two days. Still have a few hours of gaming before tomorrow.
No.8056
For a long time, I was borderline asexual and definitely demisexual.
I had a very low sex drive and it was basically all directed towards whatever person I happened to fall in love with, reaching depths of obsession and loyalty that were extreme. Basically, I had a tradfag soul, but before it was popular. It wasn't to get brownie points either, it was genuinely who I was, and to this day I get pissed when people imply that some tumblrsexualities "aren't real", because I know what I felt before I even had the words to articulate it.
But anyways, my sexuality and romantic patterns made it very difficult for me to sustain relationships because I expected the same amount of dedication and loyalty (psychological too, not only in actions) I provided, which was basically impossible to find, especially because I dated scrotes. I think it's more likely for women to be that way.
I felt like I was sitting on a metaphorical cuck chair every time something minor reminded me that while I had eyes only for my boyfriend, he found other people attractive before and during our relationship, he used to watch porn and might have done it behind my back etc. Controlling I know, but looking back to this day I think that if someone is capable of giving such a sense of adoration and security to their partners, they should be able require the same. My mistake was dating people who weren't able to in the first place, and it wasn't their fault after all. Everyone is different.
Anyways, after a particularly hard heartbreak, I decided I had enough of being like that and decided to change myself. I don't know how I did it, but after over one year of exposing myself daily to yaoi, fujo spaces, and some yumeshipping something awakened in me and now I'm a goonette, or more like, I am able to feel horny and attracted to multiple anime boys, and that's very slowly also translating to irl (although I only like very good looking and specific guys).
My sex drive is super high and I feel like a stacy. I'll never have to feel like a meek cuckquean again, and that's amazing. I have way more fun this way.
So, I want to thank my fujosisters and yaoi for improving my confidence and making me enjoy myself sexually more < 3
I think there is beauty and some upsides to how I used to be too, but I'm way happier now. Also, if I never made an active effort to change, my natural wiring would have stayed the same for my whole life most likely, so I wouldn't want this post to be used as evidence that lesser common approaches to libido and attraction are fake…
I'll celebrate this year by buying loads of BL and BLCDS and dojinshis of my otp at Mandarake. I love being a fujoshi so much it's insane
No.8057
I never understood the concept of cuteness and how people associate it with sexuality. What people call cute is just "nonthreatening" to me which isn't an attractive trait IMO and I associate it with small animals, stupidity underdeveloped personalities.
I assume that cuteness and attraction are two different things to normalfags but I am not sure since most of the time someone is posting their waifu or husbando it's a generic so-called cute kid so I assume it's connected. I can't feel it.
Strangely beauty is also largely incompatible with sexuality. Unlike cuteness I have a concept of that, but it's either that a character only becomes beautiful to me after I got obsessed with him or it's something distanced that was seen as beautiful before but then it's not sexual. Like how normal people like flowers and call them pretty but they wouldn't fuck flowers.
I am probably just autistic but because of shit like this I have hard time relating to most fans. I cannot find anybody attractive if I don't relate to them either. First there needs to be a connection otherwise it's again just some distanced shit I don't feel anything for.
No.8058
>>8057You're not autistic you're demisexual.
No.8059
>>8057I think people find cuteness or beauty appealing aesthetically and at the risk of sounding like a preachy moralfag, because of how disgustingly sexualized a lot of current pop culture is these people channel that enjoyment through sexuality since that is the perceived way to "appropriate" a character. Imo this is also the main reason non-pedo lolisho exist.
I'm the same way as you though, can't get into a character based purely on design and I need like the personality and character below that. A cute design is just that, cute, I can't ship based purely on that.
No.8060
>>8058Interesting. I never thought about this. Demi is when you only experience the attraction (and to a degree the beauty and attractive cuteness) later, after getting into a character for the personality. Opposed to liking the look first. It makes sense. A lot of characters I love didn't seem good looking at first and neither applying to common beauty standards. And then I learned more about them and liked them and suddenly the designs were the best shit ever created (for me).
>>8059This is also a quite interesting remark, because it matches the theories nonnas had in another thread where we discussed why many modern female fans were obsessed with cowtit genderbending and content that's aimed at (male) coomers. It reminds me of the fans that call every character they vaguely like their waifu or husbando. It annoys me sometimes because it feels like a lot of sexualisation is forced, especially when it happens to cartoony creatures that look barely even human. And you rarely see someone liking a character for non-sexual reasons. This goes as far as men hating male characters on principle for the sole reason of not being able to get into them (besides traps maybe).
I feel like sympathy and the ability to relate plays barely a role anymore when they should be the main reasons for liking a character, regardless of whether it includes romantic interest or not.
You are most likely right about the pop culutural influence because even the men I know that are largely "offline" prefer old male characters they consider relatable or admirable instead of being obsessed with waifus or harem MCs, let alone lolis.
No.8072
>>8058It is more common for autistic people to identify as asexual so this isn't unreasonable. Like
>>8056 has posted I do think that some of it might be explained by inexperience and exposure.
No.8073
>>8072Yeah not really the same experience as that anon you linked, but I have Asperger's and in highschool I considered myself asexual and only into 2D, 10 years later and now I have a BF and consider myself straight. I'm not going to say being asexual or whatnot doesn't exist, but when you're a 17 year old teen who has never dated and spends most of your time online the label is easy to attach yourself to.
Really focusing on orientation and relationships are a bit of a trap, you either like something or you don't and I think that should be the end of it. A lot of people put way too much of their self-worth into relationship status, or in terms of anime/manga fandom their purity status with regards to their waifu/husbando but in the long run it must hurt their perception of self and who you are as an individual.
No.8074
>>8057Unrelated to what everyone else has been adding but I thought I'd mention that cuteness aggression seems to contribute to people applying sexual actions to cute things. I think cuteness aggression with fictional characters extends to general infatuation, when you feel a burst of emotion towards an intangible thing and you just want to squish and squeeze them and let all that energy out. However, aside from them not being real, in fantasy squeezing your fave until they break is destructive and unpleasant and doesn't
go anywhere, so some people translate the sensation into "I want his ass pounded until he's in a state of delirium and can't form words". An orgasm analogy gives climax and release to the feeling, and a presumably nice time to the character.
To me this is a stage removed from finding something sexy and wanting sexual content of it for the sake of sexual gratification. It's a sort of mental outburst. It can make people look absolutely nuts and depraved, but it stems from more than just cocklust. I think even asexuals I've spoken to in fandoms have gone through this, they like a character a lot and then they write the most ass slapping BDSM fic of them. It's expressing the crescendo of feeling in ways that just cuddling and sharing a sundae can't, and it's easier to write than fight choreography.
>>8060And then this post gives me whiplash. I love cute animal characters and I've had so many run ins when doodling them in fandoms and discovering everyone else present is there
to fuck the animals. I can't fucking stand it with some series. I give some leeway when it's animal versions of a ship that I'm fine with fucking as humans, because many artists make cute jokes about the fact the dogs are prone to humping or had puppies, but there's still a limit. When people in a fandom assume any and all sfw depictions of a cute animal are inherently sexual or "moments before mob rape", I'm so fucking bewildered indignant about it. I even know when it's coming in a fandom and I'll still get funny with them for it because it doesn't make sense to me.
The worst part is I find it really cute when they draw the bumhole on small animals and make the tummy pinkish. It makes me think how warm and soft the little thing is. You know, the sensation of holding a warm living thing that wiggles and is so precious. But I've absolutely no capability to translate that to fucking it, and it seems everyone else takes those features as a calling card for zoophilia.
No.8086
>>8074I can relate to the cuteness aggression lol, though it only applies to dudes I am into, not characters that are meant to be cute. But I guess it's related to autism or something. I just don't feel anything with kids, neither in real life nor shota/loli in fiction so I don't consider them cute even though they are mean to be.
Agree about zoophilia, it's just as alien to me as the general attraction to kids or anything that lacks sexual traits (related to human gender I mean). Sometimes I am baffled to what abstract shit anons on /co/ are allegedly fapping to. But then again they would probably say the same about me if I showed them some of the dudes I am reading porn of lol