/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>5360
Antis and kinners are often not fan of canon but some barely related AU version of it. Some of them might have their primary or first knowledge about series from fanfics or fan interpretations instead of canon which doesn't help.

One notorious TIF anti from the TF fandom is drawing the (male) character she self-inserts as as dark-skinned Asian trans-transformer (lol) with tumblr nose because that's how she looks. Thing is primary metal color of the canonical version is white, so not even the colors are the same and she gets mad if anybody draws a human version that isn't like hers and calls them racist or seethes if anybody ships him with anybody but the one character she wants to fuck.

Mass Effect also had its fair share of anti-autists. I don't want to imagine the sperging in even bigger fandoms like Genshin. It probably attracts more trannies too since the male characters are all androgynous.

Only ship I kinda like here is Akira x Goro, shame it's the & tag for the batfam ships since if it was shipping and not platonic bullshit I'd be into it.

>>5364
Always good to see Darry standing strong.

So much Hazbin and Helluva on the charts this year, good for Vizie. Here's hoping for more ship material in season 2.

>>5355
On anonymous boards it's usually one sperg that just seethes about a show or the fact that it's popular for some reason. Like you couldn't make Vinland Saga threads on /a/ for a year or so because some asshole was so dedicated to shit it up that it turned into a dumpster fire quickly. It's often the same person when you witness that.

I am honestly surprised that I never got hate for liking the wrong character designs though because the guys I like are usually ugly or weird as shit. Like actually weird, not some ikemen with scar or something kek

No idea how someone can be offended over a design though. I can only assume it's a rival shipper or someone that is mad about the popularity of a certain character within the fandom they/she frequent(s), but they way you talk about it makes it sounds like they don't even know it. Maybe mad about the popularity of your show then?

>>5355
I rarely get mean replies, even when I post something that's debatable or probably TMI
Not sure how much of it is luck, liking things no one else has strong feelings about, phrasing, or if my taste really is just That Good, but it's nice to not get ragged on
Maybe someone assumed from your tastes that you're someone they personally know and dislike, and are just vendettaposting? Idk

>>5358
I always thought the Vinland mess was more than one guy, considering how many threads are just "grrr feminism bad grrrr pacifism is for babies". In my case I can't imagine it's one person either, unless one of them forgot for five years and suddenly remembered.

All three series were ones that you can count the English speaking fanbase on one hand (far as I know). In one it's literally three people, so forgive me if I don't name them because it'd be super easy to find my posts. As for the "ugly" designs - it's always just regular anime guys? They're typical ikemen with a variety of hair lengths, wearing suits or hoodies, that sort of thing. You can see how I find it confusing. It's like taking a random Bungo Stray Dogs image and going "gross I can't watch this" because they're… guys? In clothing?

Honestly I think if it was freaky aliens or robots people would leave it alone or I'd at least understand what they meant. You have a good mental shield when you can tell it's an unusual design. When you think there's nothing wrong with something and people give these vague negatives it just leads to doubt.

>>5361
I don't get ragged on frequently myself (though the fellow fujos calling stuff ugly thing does happen every so often), that's why this week stood out as strange. Ah. Fuck, I think I might have just landed on an answer, lol.

>>5273
Self-insertion is a plague that has made fandom worse. I should make a thread about it because it's a different issue all together that also affects the fujos, BL, and fandom in general

>>5280
Maybe a good idea it's a broad topic. What puzzles me is why it is so much more common now compared to the past. Nobody had an issue with not being exactly represented. You had women watching media with male MC (and not for shipping), young people enjoying old MCs and all of that but now suddenly the MC HAS to be literally (you). If you are trans they have to be trans too, not even the gender you identify as, if you are over-weighted the MC has to be too, the heritage, the mental illness the quirks everything has to be an exact copy.

It's why we're getting so many fucking annoying zoomer MC with ADHD, memespeak and addiction to trends in the west and so many otaku MC (oh how much I hate that trope) in anime. Even female MCs are often otaku now and all spergy and annoying. I don't even WANT to be represented. I don't desire yaoi addicted feMCs I rather want a cool or hot MC or a good story regardless of age and gender of the MC.
I wonder if it's related to socmedia or if fiction is simply pandering a whole different group now.

>>5284
Due to current events I'm seeing a bunch of the american aidens on social media now pretending like Trump is going to send death squads to their house and I've been thinking that the political climate since 2016 has been making people push for representation harder to justify their own existence.

>>5336
I rescind my statement. This used to be the case in the past, but I just looked and did find some newer western "bl" books with more complex stuff going on. They're not as mainstream as the uwu fluff stuff though.

>>5324
all i got from this is that americans are the problem. bomb america NOW
also wattpad, who even uses that anymore

>>5324
I hate to say it but it made me laugh because it reminded me of those authors who got caught pretending to be Chinese lesbians when they're white.

>>5303
Another legit autist here, and yeah, I've always been too far in my own head, daydreaming whatever makes me feel good to worry at the time of creation if it's allowed or not. The thing it influences is whether I talk in group settings, I'll quietly keep my shit to myself and won't dare tell someone to their face that I disagree with their takes. I wouldn't chase people around parroting morality rules because I can't think how I'd handle backlash, I expect to be in the wrong and misjudge social situations because that's how real life is. It's the worst feeling to be the one stepping out of line in a social group and not knowing why. Anonymous sites are easier on the brain.

However, I have been around other autists long enough to know that there are a type who go around constantly talking to everyone and forcing their interests on them. But those guys are stupid friendly, and they're more likely to be confused and concerned by negativity than to join in shit talking? I imagine it's extroverts like them who get into publicly visible bad fandom behavior, but it'd be weird to think ALL these users just happen to be the loud side of the spectrum by the boatload. There was only ever like 2 of them in special school. Every convincing diagnosed autist I meet online has more caution, even down to not telling people they have autism until they know you. You can't fake what life experience has drilled into your psyche or something like that.

>>5309
>who would only buy one and leave surplus
I've done this but in my defense they sold them separately, their ship sucks, the other guy has 500x the amount of yumes, and some of them were buying two of him to sandwich the guy I like so it was already unbalanced.

It has got to be frustrating for the creator though. P4P is already a nightmare to find buyers for, but plush are way extra in effort and cost, and Genshin of all things is going to have hundreds of plush designs, you don't need to buy from the strict shipper. They're selling them as a pair which in theory should prevent stock issues, but the implication they've seen resellers? FUCK those guys, there's nothing more dickish than people who buy P4P merch and try to resell them. They're second only to the people who pick up freebPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

This is retarded but I have this issue with most fiction because the characters that I don't like (usually the MCs because the author projects into them or has them as waifus) end up being treated fundamentally different than the characters I like (who can be everything, good side characters, randos, rivals, antagonists etc.) and everytime I get into a story I notice how it frustrates me more and more the more I watch or read of it.

This is stupid, because yeah you should expect the MCs to be the super special ones that can do everything and survive everything because many authors write a story to shill their MCs to begin with (opposed to write an epic or interesting characters), but I always have the hopes that whatever I started now might be different and it rarely ever is. If I had a taste that was more mainstream I could maybe relate and understand why the annoying ORE WA brat, the generic genki or those five mindless puppet waifus are precious but I don't and therefore I can't.

I wonder if fujos are more prone to this pain. Male characters are less likely to survive or be beloved by the writer, especially if it should be a comic or manga. The waifus never die as long as the author is male and same males also usually self-insert so the MC is save as well. It even happens in series that barely have waifus which makes it more frustrating when you see everybody else die horrible deaths while the generics are saved by literal miracles and yet the fans would still defend it and claim it was realistic.
Maybe it's my fault for not sticking to true BL. But I prefer adventures over romance and there are so few BL manga with a main plot that isn't romance and involves exciting shit or settings.

>>5315
>I've always been too far in my own head, daydreaming whatever makes me feel good to worry at the time of creation if it's allowed or not
This so much. And it makes everything worse namely BECAUSE you are stuck in your dreams. It makes it so much harder to focus on reality and knowing what's going on. I am the type of person that has never heard the names of the most popular actors or singers and other stuff. Others claim I was a liar or a kid or boomer if we talk online since they don't understand that someone could just filter and avoid 90% of the information outside or focus on the wrong one while lacking basic understanding of what everybody else is thinking and feeling.

I wish I could sperg about my pairings and series outside of anon boards. But I can't for the exact reasons you mentioned. It also makes me kinda paranoid of being accused of being evil by friends or something because I know no matter how dumb it is I will wonder if it's true because it was often true in the past because I don't understood rules and people. And normalfags will usually only tell you when it's too late and they are already venting against you.

Back-combed hair lmao
I thought it was a coincidence for ages but guys with this are strangely over-represented in my favs though it might be that they're just commonly associated with traits that I like. Up-combed hair is a subtype that I also like, like the hairstyle of Vegeta and En (DRHDR).
I dunno I just think it makes men look elegant, clean and competent. Or in Vegeta's and En's case just cool.

Pairings where both characters look like semes lol
Even better if both of them are also largely acting like some. I prefer it if the weaknesses of the uke are more subtle. Like a strong but aggressive guy whose weakness is that very hot-headedness that he has while the other dude is the cool one.

Bonus if the the cool top is also of a lower rank than the guy that bottom or his sidekick. I wish it wasn't so rare though. I rarely get into actual BL though so it's enough to me if they give off these vibes but even that isn't as common as you might assume it to be.

>>5260
This kinda sounds like Kiribaku MHA. Ironically it's my NOTP, but if it clicks with you, you have a gigantic backlog of quality art/doujins/fics.

i like when the guys are portrayed as straight or on the asexual spectrum until they meet the other guy, so no…
the idea of them being gay isn't attractive to me. but to be fair i don't like when they act too moidy in general so the turn off is not appliable just to them being homosexual. i guess i just want an unrealistic and idealized version of guys. it makes things more romantic and hot

It's all about gap moe and well-rounded personality for me. I don't want them to come off as girly but for the sake of making myself clear I should mention that I don't think of coomer behavior or macho when I say "manly". The real hotness comes from contrasts. Like a serious, honorable and sophisticated dude that values etiquette but then over-reacts or gets emotionally confused when things don't go his way or when his potential love interest approaches him. Or super serious tradition-loving guy that throws an autistic tantrum sometimes.
A bit like the cartoon villains from the past to be honest lol. Threatening at first but then they turn out to be naive and do dumb shit or throw a fit until their super loyal totally not gay sidekick calms them down. Or an allegedly unemotional scientist with hidden insecurities.

There is a lot. But them being outright feminine/boyish kills my enjoyment since cuteness and emotions should be the top on the ice cake not the defining trait everything else is based around. That aside it's just cute and hot af seeing some scary dude softening for a certain other dude. It hits very differently from a blushing insecure softie being lovely dovey. That aside I cannot even relate to those types. Like I don't self-insert or anything but I at least have to vaguely understand a character to like him and I can't with those male and female moe blobbs anime use to have.

Does anyone have a ship that everyone thinks is your NOTP, but you don't actually feel that strongly? I mean like a ship where you're very vocal that the popular versions aren't right and you're sick of seeing it all the time, and that the characters are more like this and this in canon. At this point, because it's also a problematic ship and people would question my interests (which is stupid 'cuz the series already has rape and dismemberment), I just let acquaintances assume I hate all instances of it. The truth is I think the way people ship it at the moment is full of flanderizing and ignoring key character traits to make an OC out of one guy and preserve their favorite as he is. I've read fics from the 00s where the authors remembered to keep both of them in-character and the slow build up is way better, the way the more innocent one struggles and resists is taken seriously instead of a joke and that leads to really sexy descriptions. The current fanart and comics and stuff are always just making him tsundere and helpless instead of repulsed by murder and mutilation, and then when they skip that stage they just make him hollow and compliant so he no longer has his personality. It's frustrating because I'm more into him than the seme and the fact he fights back in canon and gets all pissy and growly is one of his best features, as well as drowning in despair and self hate when he thinks he's committed evils. It's frustrating to find every new fanart is some OOC rewrite who is OK with everything he stands against. I've definitely posted about this ship before but it's particularly awkward that I don't feel like I can say "no actually I think it's fine I just think they're fucking it up ALL the time." I'm not shipping it myself but I think there's more than enough in canon that plays around with it and I'm disappointed everyone's taking the easy option to make it work. I want to walk into their workspace and show them how to do their job and leave, lol.

>>5013
It sounds like you're talking about Optimus and Megatron including the dismembering part LMAO because that's also exactly what newer fans are doing and fics from the 00s were so much better. Like there are still good ones, but yeah I feel the same about such issues and transformers respectively the way fans often handle Optimus is a good example. People woobify one of them too much in modern times and it got so annoying that I ignored the shipping for years despite that they were ships I also casually enjoyed.
Anyway I agree I know that feeling. If something is popular enough fans will assume that you NOTP it if you argue against it even if it's just the way they are doing it that annoys you. I don't like OOC, woobifying and selfinserting and I see a lot of this happening, especially for older fandoms. Maybe fans lack new material so they start basing their stories off on other fanon that is based on earlier fanon and so on until the guys they ship have nothing in common with the originals anymore.

I always feel like I am party pooper, regardless of the fandom I am in. It's always me who dislikes ooc and the majority seems to be in love with it. I hate it since it would make me enjoy so much art and writing more if I could, but I can't. No matter how much I love a character (or especially because of that) I always dislike mischaracterizations of them.

>>4965
The fans of that only talk about how its antis who hate it. No, I don't believe you're a pedophile in real life for shipping. I just don't like it because I see it was ooc for Reigen. Him being that type of guy would make him a completely different character.

Hannibal, I guess I was never the biggest Silence of the Lambs fan in the first place; but I remember trying really hard to get into this show and ship when it came out and it never clicked for me.

Still love still love all the dark fan art the sweies produces.

>>5068
Same. I can rationally see why it's very good fujobait, but my heart doesn't follow.

>>5068
>>5084
I don't even think they would have sex with each other, just indulge in the mutual corruption fetish by doing heinous things. Spiritually gay at its finest.