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A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.

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 No.12715[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Previous thread:
>>10865

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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 No.13636

>>13633
I suspect that it's because that generation of fans really lost a distinction between fandom and real life. All of their interactions were/are online, so suddenly a fictional relationship between a fake 15 year old and a fake 18 year old is just as exploitative as a real relationship between a 18 and 15 year old.

 No.13638

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>>13632
Ikr? FugoNara has so much more going for it, but these literally no one else for moralfags to ship with Giorno in the main case. Also in the non-canon LN Giorno sends Fugo on a quest or something to have him prove his loyalty (?) so there's some stuff there but I've heard it's not really in character. And I agree, they should be drugging each other to complacency spy on each other, snitch, etc. They are mafia! Let them act like it.
>>13633
Holy shit discourse over 15 & 18 y/os really is common kek I remember that too, tho atp OtaYuri has been accepted people just like to ignore the age gap or age them up. Sigh remnants of a better time…
>>13636
Which I get if it was for something like JosuHan (no offense to any shippers here I'm just using it as an example) since it's a 16 y/o & 20 y/o, but 15 & 18 are both still high schoolers, even IRL it's not inherently horrible. I do agree they are very online I just don't understand the cognitive dissonance of them liking problematic ships but drawing the line at an 18 y/o being with anyone younger than them. DMMD pfps telling me I should kms for shipping GioMis and I'm just standing here like. Bro. I feel like a lot of it is groupthink where they just agree with what others say and "attack" so as to not draw attention to the shit they're doing. High school social dynamics recreates but 1000x worse

 No.13642

I hate moralfags


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 No.11021[Reply]

Old or new, post any stupid yaoi memes you got

Old thread >>79
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>>13637
There must have been miscommunication between the writer and the artist lol. Or perhaps it was just a tiny detail that got overlooked and nobody double-checked.

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 No.429[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I believe we need containment thread for NOTP posting.
Post any NOTP that you fucking hate the reason can be anything canon, position, fans, etc. be petty as you want.
feel free to bash them or venting about it.
Dont visit this thread if you cant stand seeing your favorite ship get dunked.
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 No.13634

A bit contrary to the thread but I'm so desperate to see a character bottom I'm reading doujin of my NOTP for it. I'm basically 1 of the 10 fans in the entire world who likes the "reversed" position of my OTP whereas in my NOTP that character being the bottom is the majority preference. I'm enjoying <10% of the experience so I'm subjecting myself to this for no good reason. Don't think I can stomach fanfic for it and won't even bother. Life is suffering…

 No.13635

>>13634
>so desperate to see a character bottom I'm reading doujin of my NOTP for it.
gotta train your imagination so you won't need fic or doujin anymore, can't imagine subjecting myself to this…
Or even better, start writing/drawing but that takes way more effort

 No.13639

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I'm gonna be honest here: I have a NOTP for most fandoms I enter because I get too annoyingly invested in shipping. I could probably sit here and list over 20+ ships that still make me seethe to this day, which is why it's a good thing I don't really post on social media. It sucks that many are popular ships so I just stop interacting with those fandoms because they are inescapable. If I were to analyze myself it would always be Character B getting shipped with others but idc about Character A's ships weirdly. It's weird because Character B tends to be the one I like least but I also get more annoyed at seeing people ship him with the "wrong" dude. Going even deeper, it may be that Character A is usually the less liked one in the fandom and his personality usually gets flattened into being a complete simp with no other character traits for B. Also, the Character B Stan's are obnoxious and use him as a self-insert / do a Character B-bowl and write everyone OOC. idk.


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 No.9438[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What are some unpopular opinions you have as a fujoshi?
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 No.13615

>>13607
Does MADK not count as BL?

 No.13616

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>>13615
It's been discussed before but she's female, there was a broken podcast link where she was talking and redditors said she sounded typically female.

 No.13620

>>13615
>>13616
Do people claiming Ryo is a man actually follow her work and social media? Because she has VERY female "weird" tastes. She goes on and on for MONTHS about her ocs and her 10 different but actually connected AUs. I don't want to fall into a stereotype but I just never see men gay artists going on that deeply and obsessively about ocs and dynamics and a bunch of cute fluffy bl shit (not to mention she has written shoujo and has a cute furry comic going on right now). There are authors that could pass as a male better. Idk, is doing some edgy (but still very romantic) bl all it takes for people to perceive her as a man?


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 No.5538[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Self-inserting has always been a thing, however, more than ever has it not taken in an almost parasitic and viral infestation in general fandom and the BL scene.

Whether it's the need to make gay ships het by adding a vagina/transing, or blatantly stating they see non-insert ships as cucking, let's talk about self-inserting and how bad it's gotten.
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>>13588
Yeah, it's funny to repost them when these tweets are posted completely seriously
>>13589
It's probably a mix of retarded fandomspeak plus thirsting after the character plus maybe self-insertion depending on the person like you said. Usually a focus on the seme being all over the uke

 No.13591

>>13589
For those types of fujos the shipping comes off as wish-fulfillment (self-inserting/projecting onto the uke). It kind of reminds me of how people would pamper their self-insert OCs, make them Mary Sue's, give them the most intricate writing/details, etc. but the love interest OC would be very bland. Imo a lot of shipping nowadays is an extension of that.

 No.13594

>>13589
I wish I was in y'all's fandoms because the ones I'm in do this to the seme… like everything revolves around the uke to the point it drives me crazy. In my fandom they actually are simping over the uke when they say that, and want to see him submissive, so the only way to do that is with a man. I think it is a bit of self-insertion as well but in the gender way but it is mainly simping since his character type is pretty beloved amongst fujos.


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 No.9888[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Ah shit, I hate when I reply to a thread that is past bump limit.
Shit you Hate 3.0, post stuff that makes you unreasonable enraged.

Prior thread >>4907
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 No.13550

>>13548
>>13549
I don't know the context but I've often seen arguments like anon's pic be used in regards to how people make characters bottoms to "humilliate them" or to "degrade them" implying that bottomness is inherently offensive or whatever so Anon's twitter screencap is arguing that "maybe top-coded characters may willingly bottom" (as in it's not something that's done to them as an act of humilliation)

To that I say fuck them anyway because I DO like making generally considered "top-like" characters into bottoms both for humilliation purposes and for being-a-slut purposes, why do you care.

 No.13552

>>13548
>They aren't CEOs or the one's who manage the house, they’re shounen mc's who love fighting and eating.
I got whiplash reading this line because lately all the BL and non-BL stuff I read is about literally CEOs and "guild masters" and police directors, and yeah I want guy who spends all day stressed as fuck managing other people to lie down and let himself be pampered and worshiped. It wouldn't have occurred to me to apply this to Haikyuu kids or something but if they are then, damn, I hope they expand their media interests because you can't throw just any bedroom dynamic at literal teenagers.

 No.13553

>>13552
>you can't throw just any bedroom dynamic at literal teenagers
I was discussing something similar and got hit with 'oh, just like on steven universe'… no sis, like in generation kill… When people try to apply serious dynamics to literal baby shows it rankles me.


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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.13236

>>12763
>Gacha games are so bad now that the bare minimum Hoyoverse does is considered a lot
It's kind of sad that what people desire these days are cute character designs, with no story, hardly any background or lore whatsoever. I think general appreciation of how characters are written has nosedived in the last couple of years.

>My favorite type of anime are spokons where the power of friendship and teamwork win out. But even those ordinary characters and their conflicts felt more interesting than anything Hoyoverse makes.
Gacha writing is the epitome of vapid. Everybody just wants a blank slate they can project whatever they want onto.

 No.13545

Code Geass director Goro Taniguchi says Japan’s increasingly “sanitized” society is changing anime and even pushing creative talent out of the industry
>Looking back on the rise of the internet and anonymous online communities such as 2channel (the Japanese equivalent of 4chan), Taniguchi noted that “unprecedented levels of malice” started flowing into production environments during this stage, placing increasing pressure on creators. However, he argues that one of the industry’s greatest current challenges is the emergence of what sociologist Toshio Okada has called a “white society” in Japan. Note that this term does not carry any racial implications, but rather refers to a highly transparent and “sanitized” society shaped by the proliferation of smartphones and social media. The theory proposes that, with Japanese society becoming more peaceful and interconnected, behaviors seen as aggressive, disruptive, or unconventional become increasingly discouraged, while (surface-level) social harmony and cleanliness are prioritized.
>“I see this ‘white society’ as a phenomenon where all Japanese people are, in a way, becoming more like Kyoto residents,” Taniguchi explained, referencing a well-known Japanese stereotype about Kyoto people being extremely roundabout in communicating negative sentiments, prioritizing decorum. “Let’s not do anything unusual, let’s read the room, avoid open confrontation, and show respect to the people sharing the same space.” Interestingly, the director points out that many protagonists in recent ‘narou-kei‘ (isekai-style) stories fit this pattern. Coincidentally big publishers like Kadokawa have acknowledged they’ve been relying too much on this genre as of late.

 No.13546

>>13545
>Taniguchi believes this “sanitization” of Japanese society has affected not only anime’s themes and characters, but also the structure of production. The proliferation of one-cour anime series (12 to 13 episodes) helped mature the industry’s production committee system, but at the same time, it weakened the traditional model of apprentice animators learning from their masters, paralyzing the process of nurturing new talent. He also argued that the growing influence of original authors (i.e., the manga or light novel authors behind anime adaptations) and rights holders over anime has complicated the role of anime directors, making it increasingly difficult for productions to establish any clear creative direction.
>According to Taniguchi, producers increasingly favor staff members who are easy to manage and who can reproduce source material at an acceptable level without introducing strong creative ideas of their own. As a result, the more ambitious creators gradually find themselves receiving less work, and eventually even leave the industry, he says. Taniguchi characterizes the current period of anime evolution as an era of “prioritizing profits at the expense of creative vision.”
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/code-geass-director-goro-taniguchi-says-japans-increasingly-sanitized-society-is-changing-anime-and-even-pushing-creative-talent-out-of-the-industry
I think it will mean fewer instances of random homo in non-BL anime, bland adaptations of any property, no 'problematic' relationships…


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 No.4016[Reply]

I would like to watch some Gundam with nonas, using a service such as Cytube.

I'm open to scheduling it as a 'few episodes a week', or 'A bunch of episodes in bulk'. Both are good.

My timezone is Berlin time, GMT +1.

Nonas can let me know which Gundam they'd like to watch. I'm fine with anything that has cute boys. My personal wish is Zeta Gundam, but I'm also fine watching another timeline or repeating the 0079 series (Albeit perhaps with dub or something to shake it up).
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 No.9182

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The G-Cucks anime was…disappointing… Good fanart though.

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Gundam ages are wild.

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I miss piss-yellow DVD subtitles.


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 No.2359[Reply]

how the fuck do people ship genshin, enstars or any other gacha characters? they're barely characters, just money generating, 1-dimensional pieces of cardboard. i've never been able to get attached to any.
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 No.13453

>>2359
>>2361
Honestly, I used to be into FGO Karna/Arjuna just because I think brother incest is hot.

 No.13454

>>13451
I thought he and Phainon would be the main fujo ship push because they're supposed to be KevinSu expies (maybe not so much directly betweeen Anaxa and Su). Sad he got shafted for a hetship

 No.13458

>>13454
Mihoyo fans have the media literacy of toddlers and the tolerance for pairings that aren't safe and normal comparable to IBS.

If two characters aren't literally the same age (visibly) with nearly the exact same height, they lose it. I know, it's stupid for hsr because the vast majority of the cast are chinese cultivators when it comes to aging. But people will put 10 disclaimers on something as NOT A SHIP when it's just Mydei and Cipher existing in the same space.


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