/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>2991
I actually have more het/gen/female focused zines than BL ones just because the BL ones are more likely to have something I don't care for in them. If the artists I actually like have prints available I will just get one of those instead.

>>2333
I don't understand how this is a problem since the majority of fanzines have horrible tumblr-tier art. Are you really missing out on anything worthwhile?

>>3003
I disagree, own 20ish fanzines and there have only been two I thought were unacceptably tumblr. A BnHA one and a Danganronpa one. I would NOT buy one based around a specific pairing or nsfw, but foodzines and more general series celebrations have mostly good art and are neat. Some I've bought have even had Japanese artists. Zines usually release all their contributors before the thing goes on sale, scout it out and decide if their are too many people who would make contentious content.

>>3003
Zine art can run the gamut from tumblr-tier person of gender tier to “holy shit these people must draw for a living” level. In fact lots of people complain about zines being too competitive these days, which implies a minimum level of skill required (at least in larger fandoms). For me personally, the main draw is the merch.

>>544
cuntboys were always a transformation fetish thing but even cuntboy fags hate the tranny kind

So amusing how everyone recognizes gaydens are wildly different from actual gay men but no one wants to come out and say they're straight women with superiority complexes who fujo'd too far.

>>3179
Yeah it's like they want to complain but are too worried about getting mean comments. I mean, what are these delulu straight teenage girls going to do? Dox anyone who sees them for what they are? I doubt it.

>>3119
I've seen some 18+ male figurines around lately that sometimes have a pussy option and I've also seen at least one aiden say something like "Wow it's neat they have a transmasc option" and I thought to myself "I'm pretty sure that's just for the cuntboy people."

>>3187
NTA, but do you mean like JP figure companies? It's not that I don't believe it but I just don't know that much about figures besides big companies like goodsmile and nendroid.

>>3190
I can't find what I was thinking of and I'm tired of scrolling but this twitter posts 18+ male figs. I don't know anything about the companies making these. https://twitter.com/Yaoi_Figures

>>3191
Tons of R18 figs are by this Chinese company who don't give a shit about licensing or copyrights. They'll do whatever sells so I wouldn't be surprised if it was them.

I'm so frustrated with how I can be in a group that's mostly just enjoyable and chill but even a single Ayden can just barge in and ruin the mood by policing everybody's language. It's basically a power trip but in the whiniest and most attention-seeking way possible and of course everyone else has to bend over backwards to please this person and apologize for their 'problematic language' and promise to do better. I hate having to walk on eggshells for these people SO much. Anonymous imageboards aren't perfect but I'd go insane if I didn't have at least some places where I don't have to submit to a power tripping whiner.

once again, thank you all for giving me so much evidence for my essay on how tucutes have completely sabotaged the LGBT acceptance movement

>>3285
>tucutes
all trannies are the same at their core. the notion that some are valid while others aren't, "no true transman…", is bull.

I've been thinking about this again so (kinda) reposting something that got lost wayyy back during maintenance.

Does anyone remember RCDart? If not then the run-down is that she was an artist that was obsessed with ftm Cap America, and her art/personality was… lol. But anyway, the main thing is that as she got into more controversy she drew the ire of Tumblr/Twitter for, amongst other things, 'fetishizing transmen'. One thing I remember specifically is someone on Tumblr taking apart a Tony/Steve fic she wrote. The person was saying things like 'transmen wouldn't act like that, they obviously want to be seen as men' and generally stuff along those lines iirc (this would've been back around 2017~ish), and it's just so fascinating to think about because the stuff that RC was getting ripped apart for is so commonplace in Aiden writing these days. Just, constant reminders of how small and meek and wide-hipped and built for breeding and yaddayadda the character that got TIFified is in comparison to the cis one. Or how degradation and PiV obsessed the work in general is. Quite a lot of it is just so typical in TIF smut content that it honestly is equal parts funny and horrible, RCD would've been right at home these days. How things change, I guess.

>>4145
Artist I follow flashbanged me with this a few months ago and memories came flooding back.

I was lurking on /a/ more during fujochan's downtime and learned per another anon's calculation that, at the time of the post, 27.6% of the "penis in vagina sex" tag on Ao3 is also under the M/M category.

Can you report 'cuntboy', 'futa', 'FtM' fics in AO3 for being mislabelled as m/m?

>>5063
Futa yes, cuntboy/ftm is still "identified male" and Ao3 doesn't touch that can of worms.

>>5064
>"identified male"
LOL Fuck them.

>>541
Am I lucky or in the wrong(right) fandoms if I never observed any of this so far? The closest things I ever witnessed were single funny pics where one of the guys got genderbent or dirty talk in fanfics or art mentioning pregnancy or "cunt", but this is never anything but words and the act is clearly described or drawn as gay sex with dick in the ass. I don't think this is what this thread is about.
I feel like the transifycation is more common in western fandoms and mainstream shounen? I don't follow these types of series I wouldn't notice it even if it was rampant there. Or is this more of a thing that happens in fandoms for live action or femboys?

>>5063
Cuntboy can still be M/M provided that they are still basically male and not with any implications of being trans. Just basically a fetish for pussy, but doesn't make them 'afab' or whatever.
But if it's mentioned that they are totally on the T and transitioned and whatever yeah like the other anon says it's impossible to fight against that

>>5075
Same I almost never run into any tranny stuff in my fandoms, I know it exists because I filter it on Ao3 and can see the count go down a bit but I've never been surprised by a fic, and rarely see cuntboy art, full genderswap seems to be way more common.

I'd be curious if anyone has any "problem" fandoms which are especially egregious. The only one I can even remotely think of is Danganronpa woth Chihiro but that mostly is people bitching in the comments of fanworks or people who cleary haven't even played the games not people who produce actual fan content.

Noooo, i literally just stumbled into a fic of just tif fanart despite my 101 ao3 exclude filters. The fucker didn’t tag it at all in any capacity either. That’ll teach me to go into something fandom blind again. I just wanted to check out the fanart people post on ao3. It was DSMP fandom for anyone who’s wondering. Now I know to never touch that shit fandom ever again.

>>5085
Charisma House. The western fandom is just "[name] is a trans woman ohemgee" on loop. It feels insulting sometimes because they'll make jokes where the joke is calling one of the characters female.

>>5085
JJK was pretty bad for a while. Not sure if it's still that bad, but I remember scrolling down a whole page of sukufushi on AO3 and finding a grand total of one where Megumi didn't have a cunt.

>>5085
Final fantasy 14 is my most active fandom right now and I'll see TIFs or They/them-identified women artists and their genderspecial OCs relatively often. Though like someone mentioned in another thread it's a unique type of fandom where people's OCs and OC/Canon ships are given more attention than in other fandoms cause it's an MMO and it does make sense that genderspecials will make their player OC a genderspecial too. Funnily enough I've seen a TIF artist feel guilty over that she ended up preferring to draw her OC with a dick for her BL art and I thought to myself "There you have it, you can't deny being a fujoshi." Genderspecial art is annoying here cause I'm actually into OC/canon if the artist's player OC is an attractive male who is paired with a male canon character I like, but sometimes I'll have to dig through the rest of an artist's page to see if their cute male OC character has zippertits scars and a pussy that wasn't visible in the initial art I saw. Though the worst thing that happened recently was when an artist who drew lots of shipping art with a canon character I've recently gotten obsessed with released their first NSFW art with the two and revealed they headcanoned the canon character with a pussy. It was my personal 9/11 and retroactively ruined every single piece of previous art as well. I had to mute the artist on twitter cause they'd still show up in my For you page or be retweeted by people I still follow and there was a newer pic where they had a baby now too and I cringed so hard.

>>5085
i second jjk being bad, there's entire discourses on why geto is actually a woman and arguments on t/b based off that with death threats and whatnot.

also despite my ao3 filters for cuntshit i still get those from time to time, mostly because they won't tag properly and use very niche tags instead like the very cursed "sugussy" and "gojussy". it's like they do it on purpose so we all have to see the stuff, but i bet that if anyone didn't tag their ~triggers~ or whatever we'd have callouts for months.

anyways, what's everyone's experience with this? other fandoms too, i'm curious about if genderspecials not putting a warning on their stuff is a thing

>>5094
>sugussy
I've seen dekussy and bakussy in the bnha fandom.
You just need to put the following in your "search within results" and it gets rid of any fics with the pussy or Xussy tags kek:
-*ussy

>>5093
Oh yeah I also just remembered that time on the Citrus con discord when someone advertised a kink zine called Unmitigated and there were three different fic previews that gave me hints on what sort of people were participating in this.

>>5085
I feel like it's primarily western fandoms, idol shit, Gacha/MMO shit, mainstream battle shounen that attract kids and twink ridden series and I don't like any of those. I doubt there are many transifyers in the fandoms for series I love. Every loud fangirl type of fujo or emotionally unstable fan (those are the ones that usually transify and genderbend since they're afraid of men) I met avoided those like the plague even when I showed them that they contain a ton of fujo pandering.

>>5085
>I'd be curious if anyone has any "problem" fandoms which are especially egregious
I am specifically avoiding the new Trigun because I know if the Vash brainworms get me I'm going to have an irritating time.
>>5097
>>5093
XIV getting big in the west was such a monkey paw. I hate that "I don't want to see PIV" will get you labeled a TERF and blocked. None of these people ever write two trans men clamslamming, it's ALWAYS about PIV.

>>5106
Because deep down they're just straight women, probably more straight than actual kinsey 0 straight women. They become trans as a sort of cope away from all the grievances of being a woman only to then realize they are like other women, so they double down into a cesspool of drag queen loving femboy bullshit.

>>5106
I think it's fandom hijacking combined with the urge to come off as quirky and different. Fujos were always the most active fandom groups so if you join a fandom you will most likely end up in fujo spaces. So these people claim to be fujo, label their shit as fujo, but actually only enjoy het. I hate that they do this, I hate that they can't just form their own damn community instead of invading and leeching off of the ones already existing.

But guess making a het shipping group would be too normal, social media related attention addiction damaged humanity forever. I would accept it if they would be honest and say it's a kink of them and label it as such. Same as futa and the likes. You can make a thread or discord channel for this then and everybody enjoys what they like most in peace. But nobody dares to say this since they think it would erase or fetishize online trannies.

>>5111
I feel like if this was pre-2016 minus all the woke and your identity is valid garbage etc. the cuntboy stuff could exist without being a nuisance and eyesore to everyone. You could easily tell people off to tag it or openly say it's a squick, but because of trannyism people will slap the transphobic label onto you if you don't like it and don't consider it yaoi (b-but men with vaginas are men and gay men can like pussy!!!111! shit). Years back magic pussy was just seen as a niche fetish trope like any other and it should've stayed that way but people have to tie it to a queer activist thing. They can't admit it's just something they get their rocks off too otherwise they're fetishizing trans men, or they're TIFs themselves so they take it as a personal attack that you don't consider PIV as gay sex.

>>5111
>fetishize online trannies
That part never made sense. Futa and by extension yuri and yaoi aren't analogues to actual lgbt people. You have to be self-minded to think that. But naturally when met with any chance to feel oppressed, TIFs will hop in and declare yaoi to be inherently problematic–until you take a look at their likes. Most of them are still the same ebil fujos they so despise, since in the end, they're still women under all those snitches and garish hair dye. The difference? One knows they are a fujo while the other would rather close their ears and start screaming microaggressions at the slightest refute.

>>5118
Yeah I remember that cuntboy/herm stuff was already a thing when I was reading DBZ alien porn 20 years ago. But it was rare, I usually saw it with non-humans and it was mentioned before and the headcanon a certain writer. And since everybody hid their fics on their angelfire homepages it was more private and never linked to any sort of political message. If you didn't like it you didn't visit that website anymore and that's it. I didn't know livejournal existed back then so I never experienced actual sharing of fics or images. You were the guest entering the private shrine of someone else, so you looked whether you like it or not and stay or go.
>pre-2016
I also think it was 2016 when the shift happened. The weirdest part is cuntboy stuff that is associated with transness within the story, speak it's a woman with top surgery. I feel like the cunt stuff in the past was written with a different thing in mind. The ones I stumbled upon were either pure kink or hermaphrodite stories about an otherwise normal male character with dick but a hidden V that nobody knows about till his lover casually discovers it.
My theory back then was that some writers added this to give the guy some hidden, feminine vulnerability that they can relate to on the one hand and use to give the character an alleged weak spot on the other hand that the lover accepts until the "mutated" bottoming guy accepts that he accepts it. The mutated aspect is probably another projection of alienation that some writers might have experienced, considering that fandom members are often autistic, lonely or otherwise victims of some bad experiences or alienation.

But with modern troonification I have no explanation. It's not seen as weak spot, alienating thing or anything private anymore and not a kink either. It rather feels like flat-out shilling or self-presentation. Not defending the old stuff, but I believe I can at least understand why it was written by women who only ever uploaded it on their private, super-secret homepages.

>>5118
>>5119
What confuses me the most about these people is that they feel entirely different from trans people I met or heard of in the past. The ones I knew actually passed for what they wanted to be (sometimes the voice was slightly off but rest felt normal) and despite that their life didn't revolve around it.

Modern trannies are weirder IMO. At least the fandom ones. Like I have yet to see one, and I mean a SINGLE one, that even tries to pass. It's usually the exact same types of loud, annoying, sheltered girls with the exact same body type and potato face and none of them act or looks remotely boyish. I AM sometimes confused with a young man and I don't even try to look like it. I get the feeling that the transness with these people is more of a stupid quirk or fashion statement. They don't even wear gender neutral clothes, what is it?

Like one of the loudest one I know is regularly posting her giant tits on twitter where she is posing half-naked or in some leather costume. And then she gets triggered (or pretends to) because someone "misgenders" her. I don't understand. This whole trend is weird as fuck to me. It wouldn't be nearly as strange and artificial if they were at least "usual", more or less passing trannies that looked and remotely behaved like the gender of choice and enjoy things like normal people.

>>5118
Trans headcanon stuff was definitely taking off around 2013 in my memory but it wasn't quite as unavoidable as it is now.
I bet that if het fic were to get taken over by cis man/trans woman fic which was all written as anal sex to the same extent as PiV with slash, the homophobic type of normie hetshippers would be much more vocally pissed off and wouldn't put up with it.

>>5097
>kink zine called Unmitigated
Was it a general kink mag or BL-specific?

>Have majority of authors in a ship tag muted because they always post PiV and other kinks I'm not into
>Fic count keeps updating, can't see shit
>Curious in case there is some new Halloween fic so I log out for 1 second
>Skim tags of first fic: 'vaginal fingering'
>Log back in
Yeah, there was no point in hoping. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I only encounter PiV for non-human males but if it IS a non-human (or two) then PiV is guaranteed and makes up nearly 100% of all nsfw art and fics.

I'm genuinely convinced the majority of transfic writers and artists are just closeted misogynistic M/F shippers in denial.
Why do I need to know about a characters's bandages or bind to cover 'his' tits? Why do I have to somehow have a talk about how "btw I love your boobies and cunt but you're a still a guy tehe" in the middle of a fic?
It feels as if they think they're above genderbends, or think it's transphobic to even make genderbends or say the word (this is something I've seen).
There's no reason for the character getting trannyfied to not just simply be written as a woman, literally just call him a woman at that point instead of "no you see he may be looking exactly like a boy but has a woman's body and is even 'feminized' but it's not a girl ok!!" it's just pathetic.
Embrace the wattpad M/F author in you that wants to selfinsert into rape fics instead of trying to be some stupid genderspecial

>>5218
Oh man I didn't know some wrote characters as outright trans. I casually encounter cuntboy art or fics but it was never actually trans it's always just the cuntboy kink, like futanari basically. This is especially bad because even if I liked het it would kill my immersion completely if they would reveal that one of the characters was a girl midways and start with this validation talk, wtf

>>5218
It's a mix of being hetfags in denial and self-inserting. Honestly I consider these people even more heterosexual than the average M/F shipper because they literally turn every ship they like into that shit.
>think it's transphobic to even make genderbends
This used to be really common but it's dying off now. People used to pester others to tag their genderbends as "cisswaps" (and some would still get mad at that). I've seen a lot more art of it now even from the moralfag types who originally were mad over it. No idea why people suddenly flipped but thank god it's over.

>>6902
The one thing about trannies I never understood is why they wouldn't actually identify with the gender they claim to be and always resort to trans characters.
>I am a man
>Then write stories about men, please
>fuck no, here is your woman with cut-off tits

It's funny how cis fujos can write men perfectly fine and relate to characters regardless of gender as long as they like them but somehow TIFs can't. The character they write has to be an imperfect man otherwise they can't think from his/her viewpoint for some reason.

Sorry this wasn't supposed to be a reply, no idea why I accidentally pasted this number!

>>5273
Self-insertion is a plague that has made fandom worse. I should make a thread about it because it's a different issue all together that also affects the fujos, BL, and fandom in general

>>5280
Maybe a good idea it's a broad topic. What puzzles me is why it is so much more common now compared to the past. Nobody had an issue with not being exactly represented. You had women watching media with male MC (and not for shipping), young people enjoying old MCs and all of that but now suddenly the MC HAS to be literally (you). If you are trans they have to be trans too, not even the gender you identify as, if you are over-weighted the MC has to be too, the heritage, the mental illness the quirks everything has to be an exact copy.

It's why we're getting so many fucking annoying zoomer MC with ADHD, memespeak and addiction to trends in the west and so many otaku MC (oh how much I hate that trope) in anime. Even female MCs are often otaku now and all spergy and annoying. I don't even WANT to be represented. I don't desire yaoi addicted feMCs I rather want a cool or hot MC or a good story regardless of age and gender of the MC.
I wonder if it's related to socmedia or if fiction is simply pandering a whole different group now.

>>5284
Due to current events I'm seeing a bunch of the american aidens on social media now pretending like Trump is going to send death squads to their house and I've been thinking that the political climate since 2016 has been making people push for representation harder to justify their own existence.

>>5354
Living in their heads rent-free lol. Big business (including Big Pharma) supports Trump, so there is no way he'd clamp down on tranny medicalisation.