/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>5896
Yes, the ratio there is worse than what fujos have to deal with tbh.

>>5896
Like >>5899 said
Futa and dickgirls have been all over yuri doujins since forever, the only difference is it wasn't MtFs making it. If anything the boypussy craze is only just now catching up to the dominance that futashit has on yuri.
But just on Ao3, I have seen dickgirl stuff for F/F pairings. How much you'll see depends on how popular the canon is with men. I think it's still less common than cuntboys on there.

>>5898
That's an absolute lie Futanari has been established for decades far longer than cuntboy has and it's a huge debate on site like danbooru and exhentai if that stuff should be in yuri or not. My understanding though is Futa stuff is almost exclusively pornographic, I'm not a yuri fan but I've never seen futa stories that aren't just porno doujins.

>>5900
The real question is why people on A03 don't use "Other" more often. It'd make it easier for them to find alt-relationship stuff and would make it easier for the rest to filter. I've actually never been spooked by a cuntboy fic in the wild since in my fandoms at least people do tag it. But it'd be nicer if when I sorted m/m I actually got it without the extra step to filter "trans."

>>5901
>The real question is why people on A03 don't use "Other" more often
In practice I think this only gets used for genderless characters and monsters. Unless they introduced an actual TransM/CisM category I don't think anyone would stop using M/M.

aethy implosion has been fascinating. hordes piling onto nazi bar fediverse instances without realizing somehow (nobody there can read ofc) and you can't even point out that the root problem is. men. because every ayden in proximity will think you're talking about them & they will never see that they have nothing in common with said lolichuds, no matter how much porn they consume. Can someone save us fucking fujoshi

>>5971
QRD?

>>5971
This is schizo babble. I don't even know some of the words you're using nonna.

>>5971
>can't even point out that the root problem is. men.
It's sad how the humble fujoshi and cvnnycrvsader1488 are exactly the same in the eyes of most normalfriends.
>>5978
Nah she just posted without much context. Aethy was fediverse instance that hosted whatever weird shit you wanted and decided to shutter ahead of time instead of contend with whatever Trump would bring them (https://aethy.com/@News/113561239227823283). I don't lurk enough over there to know exactly what other hosts they are jumping to (baraag mostly) and why they are nazi bars, but if I had to guess it's because of the circular nature of the western lolicon/nazi Venn diagram.

>>5979
Never heard of Aethy. Loli/shota are still legal in the US and Trump's presence/absence won't change it.

just saw trans ivan on ao3 :(

Do the transifications nonnas talk about here actual involve trans "lore" or do you just mean characters having a vagina hidden under their dick for fetish reasons?
I casually experience the latter, even in Japanese fics, but never the first. Meaning I might read porn of my men and during the sex scene the story suddenly hints that the bottom is a hermaphrodite. It never plays a role outside of it and neither did they cut off their tits nor are they trans and they have functioning dicks as well.

I strangely only know this subtype but never saw a fic or fanart that actually made someone trans AKA a former woman or a guy without dick.

>>6228
In my experience, 99% of the time it's not even a vagina hiding under a dick it's just PIV and that's it. I've only once read a fic where the character mentioned taking testerone the troonshit was untagged and even had cockwarming in reference to the bottom in the tags when it was just an enlarged clit so to this day I still hope the author kills herself.

>>6228
Back when I first discovered fanfiction and used ffn, I would come across the "surprise hermaphrodite" stuff. I haven't seen that in forever though. Now I only come across just straight up PIV. Even excluding a bunch of trans tags, I'll somehow miss the "[Character Name]'s Genitals referred to with AFAB terms" or "[Character Name] has a vagina" tags or even just come across untagged PIV with no indication that it's basically het with male pronouns. And that's just fanfiction. I've unfortunately seen actual tit chop fanart before without warning.

>>6229
>so to this day I still hope the author kills herself.
Dangerously based. Praying for it to happen too

>>6230
Yeah I also know it since my first days of fanfiction in like 2000. It was always a thing. Rare, but it existed. Asia probably still keeps it when they are into that. It doesn't always appear, not even within the other fics of the same writer, only casually. It's probably different from the trans shit even though both might have the same root.
Since it's rare and always only mentioned on the side, sometimes even just hinted, it never bothered me too much but I wouldn't be able to ignore actual trans talk or PiV, especially if one of the dudes doesn't even have a dick. This is actually what surprises me. The herm thing is, I believe, a kink and done to avoid the hassle with the lubrication and all that, but none of this would justify the detaching of the dick? So this part is honestly new and weird.

Again I didn't encounter it yet but it's so fucking weird reading of your fav who might be some scarred terrorist dude and then the sex scene describes how he doesn't have a dick.

Maybe I am wrong, but this sounds to me like it's not even tranny shit but just outright het. I would imagine that if I was a tranny I would imagine transmen as "perfect" so either actual men or men that are basically herms. Real TIFs have no dicks because our medicine isn't advanced enough to make dicks. But that shouldn't influence fantasy.
This makes me wonder if the writers even consider themselves trans or it's just thinly veiled het porn but the latter makes no sense either since you have enough actual het pairings for that. But if it was a kink I would also rather expect herm than missing dicks. Anyway it's a bit puzzling to me, actually even way stranger than the ages old surprise herm.

>>6228
I don't read a lot of porn so I don't really come across it myself, but lately "lore" is what's bothered me. To be honest it started back in around 2014, some fandoms I was in had a few users posting AUs where X was born a girl and self harms but started dressing as a boy and felt better and now they're a man. I thought it was stupid because the character already had a backstory and at no point has their gender been called into question or made them self conscious. We even saw him naked a few times and while he had a glowstick between the legs it was certainly a stick.

Flash forward ten years, now I'm into fandoms for ongoing series where we haven't had all the backstory info on characters, but we've had a fair amount. People start posting "headcanons" about characters being trans and wanting to transition, but again, they throw out all the backstory elements that are crucial to the character's personality and write their own humdrum soap opera about how sad being trans is and how their best friend helps them realize their dream of being the other gender even though everyone else hates them for it. They don't even really go into any specific details of who or how they're hated, they don't use the elements in canon to elevate the concept even though there's easy fodder for it (eg. being sorted into gendered groups at school). It's so nothing, it doesn't feel like content about the character in question at all. I'm honestly more pissed off that they aren't making something of it than the fact they want the character to be trans.

It's just that it seems to happen to way time and time again. No real thought put into the process just cookiecutter boohoo being trans is so hard and everyone hates me I wish I was another gender. Do something character relevant ffs! Don't copypaste the same story on everyone, talk about how being trans affects THIS character compared to any others. Don't remove them from their setting and context, don't cut off all their canon connections and isolate them. Write them as them even if you want to make them trans.

>>6239
*seems to happen that way
Also this type of fanwork feels to me like blatant fetishization. They don't care about trans being normalized or expressing a range of trans identities, they just want the misery porn of oppression and to make erotica about scarring and mismatched genitals. Focusing the entire story around transness and removing all other concerns in a character's life is shitting on real trans people who have actual lives with many interests and problems. It's making them less and less like trans people and more like a hollow vessel to congratulate themselves over.

>>6228
>never saw a fic or fanart that actually made someone trans AKA a former woman or a guy without dick.
Damn, you must be in an extremely obscure fandom then. Because this is what most transfication is like.
And yes, there's far too many fics I've seen that come up with trans "lore". That's my main issue with trannyshit, not even the vaginas. I'm used to cuntboy porn, I've seen a fair share of japanese cuntboy stuff, it's basically a fetish. Characters that are dragons or fish usually have a "slit" (pussy) so it's treated simply as cuntboy fetish, but never about them uwu I wish I was a woman *cuts wrists*
Sometimes in western fic is 'subtle' shit like "(Character) removed his binder", "(Character) has not had their period yet" and shit like that is obviously linking to trans shit. It's so annoying.
And like >>6239 has pointed out, it's all self-fetishization. It's authors projecting the fact they are trans. 90% or hell even 99% of trans fics are always made by a TIF

I wonder if I'm save from that stuff because I mostly latch onto historical manga. History itself works as deterrent against zoomers and meme tards since they will assume it's dry and it's usually series centered around adult men and gore or politics which these people avoid on principle. It would also be hard to explain gender change in 1345.

>>6246
It really depends on the popularity of the era. Like the French Revolution and American Revolution are popular due to the musicals, which is where we get Miku Binder Thomas Jefferson from. And I’m pretty sure the woman in OP pic husbandos Robespierre. But if you’re into even slightly more obscure history then yeah you probably won’t run into trannies.

>>6247
A ton of young TIFs are obsessed with Ancient Greece or Victorian Britain (due to the Percy Jackson series and Black Butler), I hope they don't discover my favorite eras.

>>6246
No, you're not :(
Source: Am history nerd. A pooner currently writes a very popular WWI comic, and TIFs are obsessed with Victorian & Edwardian things. The historical mangas that I enjoy are set in those eras. They've also colonized the vintage shoujo demographic, which has historical mangas.

Do share if you know historial mangas that are free from the wrath of Aiden.

>>6262
Honestly none of the history manga I like have tranny fans that I know of, but I am not a fan of victorian age stories.

I like the era itself but the stories are usually otome or otomelike so I avoid them like the plague, the only exception are some horror VNs and Emma which was IMO genuinely good, but not BL adjacent or sausage fest. From the big(ger) ones neither does Golden Kamuy (which is popular as hell) have any tranny fans nor Elusive Samurai, Orb, Kenshin or Vinland Saga and the rest like Historie, Tekketsu Küche, Plinivs and such are too niche to have many fans to begin with, though Peleliu might get some when the anime airs (but the artstyle is chibi).

I have no idea about western stuff. The only western comics and books about historical eras I know and like are old as shit or extremely niche so they have no tranny fans since they have no active fanbase to begin with.

>>6339
>Golden Kamuy has no tranny fans

Oh how I wish that were true

>>6339
>Golden Kamuy and Vinland Saga have no tranny fans
I wish to live in your bubble Nona

>Playing Killer Chat!
>Serial killer chatroom VN
>2 boys and 2 girls dating options
>Do Ronin's first
>Trans bombshell 2 and a half hours into route
>Delete game

What a waste of time.

>>6353
Just googled it, a shame because I like Ronin's design. Would have loved that character as both, a girl or boy. Both would have been good in my book, just not trans. What a waste. Girl designs are always so generic it would have been fine to just let her stay a girl without changing the design IMO and we barely get emo boys anymore and it looks good so a boy would have been great too.
I am not even political, I just don't like trans characters because I generally don't like characters that care much about gender shit even if they're cis and trans characters are all about that. Also no tits and small tits are both great but cut-off tits are a turn off to me.

>>6353
I looked it up and the character has a trans and rainbow bracelet. Sad.

>>6355
>>6354
>>6353
what a waste of a cute design, the vn she's in sounds fairly interesting too, she's have made a cute boy or reverse trap
>Also no tits and small tits are both great but cut-off tits are a turn off to me.
you get it nonny, if she couldn't be a cute emo boy let her be a flat butch at least

>>6356
>>6354
Her design is cool, that bracelet isn't visible at all in game, but even if it was I don't think I would have put two and two together. I'm more just frustrated it wasn't frontloaded and disclosed since I would have skipped the game or route since it's clearly not for me. Instead I feel cheated. "He" was supposed to be the psycho serial killer route and the other male option was a vigilante hunting killers down. I probably would have liked both routes but now I'll never know.

>>6356
It's got better presentation than most ENVNs and nails the UI of a chatroom like Slack or Discord. The theming is why I picked it up and the concept of accidentally stumbling upon a ring of serial killers online is still a strong concept. Some of the writing id diagetically cringe since it's mostly relayed through chat but imo it was nice to have and English VN that wasn't a fucking meta parody.
Honestly should have expected tranny shit this is what I get for straying from Japanese VNs.

>>6353
This game is so embarrassing. Cute character designs, but I couldn't suspend my disbelief that these killers all acted like terminally online Discord zoomers, and they were so reckless with their true identities? Like, you're gonna hop on video call within a month of meeting someone? In the Serial Killer Server? When I could be a cop? And you're going to talk about your influencer career? That has your face attached to it? In the Serial Killer Server?

I didn't even get to Ronin's route, so it's good to know I didn't miss much kek.

>>6357
>Honestly should have expected tranny shit this is what I get for straying from Japanese VNs.
Yeah, I mentioned this in another thread before but this is exactly why I don't want to play english original VNs. The ones aimed at gay men probably wouldn't have this but they have overly muscled guys that I'm not into and the games with a prettier artstyle can pull this genderspecial bait and switch onto you.

>>6359
>>6357
Cheer up, there are still translated Chinese BL games out there.
https://vndb.org/g2002?m=0&l=&f=022gen3wzh_dHant-&s=20w

>>6360
I actually tried Xiangcao Bulei yu Meigui Guaidao and had to refund it since it was basically machine translated can't believe it's being sold on Steam. There have been almost no good VNs this year imo.

>>6364
Why does Steam allow it?

>>6359
Pretty much any kind of western zine/duojin etc is super fucked at this point. You can't even make zine anymore without something slipping a vagina and if you tell them "No" you get canceled

>>6438
I buy a ton of zines and haven't experienced that, worst was a P4 zine that had one of the fics they/them-ed poor Naoto. My general guideline is to really scroll though all of their promo art before buying. Check for art that turns the character black or low quality art of any kind. Also read the FAQ especially for shipping zines or series with "contentious" characters. I personally would never buy say, a Danganronpa zine, because I'd be afraid of them mishandling Chihiro and because it's a young-leaning fandom.

>>6450
This.
To my experience tranny fanatics are bad artists so they are rarely chosen for zines. Most zines get the best of the best as long as these people apply. It's actually funny because my main fandom often gets zines and 40%-60% of the participants are the really good artists, the rest are "okay" and maybe one or two at best that are bad. No tranny stuff ever.
Then there was a "representation" zine made and suddenly, you encountered the worst artists you have ever seen and scrolling through the announcements and names I realised that I didn't know any of them.

Not sure why it's always the bad ones. Maybe the whole tranny deal is just an attempt of getting clout when you are too lazy to improve. Not sure.

>>6438
Yeah, I experienced that myself with one of my fandoms earlier this year. >>5097 There might have been content in the zine I'd like but the fact that they let this shit in just makes me not want to bother combing through.

>>6452
>To my experience tranny fanatics are bad artists
They're also really bad at writing. I'm not even talking about their tranny subject matter or sex scenes, just the general parts of their story. Why are trannies and their cheerleaders so terrible in the arts department?

>>6458
>Why are trannies and their cheerleaders so terrible in the arts department?
Mostly because they have no other redeeming qualities than just their self-proclaimed identity. People who are actually talented at art and passionate about creating don't need to compensate with scandalous behavior. And some of them are just developmentally arrested to the point they've developed a hyperfixation about gender issues and express themselves through chicken scratch doodles and barely legible stories like a child would.

>>6458
Other factors aside, I think caring about "identity" in any shape or form begets ugliness. This doesn't apply to just trannies either, but anyone who cares about representation and makes it a focal point of their work. They become overly concerned with properly displaying all types of beauty and features no matter how unconventional (which is why people are now subject to titchop art). Not to mention in more radical spaces if you only draw stereotypically attractive faces/body types you get shit on for doing some sort of -ism. With this modus operandi in mind, naturally, their shit is just going to be hideous. It's no surprise that when an artist overdoses on identity politics, they start drawing disabled trans fatasses with vitiligo, because in these circles, once you start caring about one marginalized identity, you are forced to care about all of them. Now, being fair, I have seen art from these types that is genuinely well-done, but the worst ones are, without fail, always from this sector of people.

>>6450
>Check for art that turns the character black or low quality art of any kind
Facial piercings. If a character with zero piercings now has seven facial piercings plus ear piercings, run.

>>6832
>they aren't 100% told they're trans dudes
lolwut. Both types of troons have tried to center yaoi around themselves, it's funny. Reminds me of when one said ukes were stand-ins for MTFs or whatever. No fujo thinks about or wants trannies in their BL, only they themselves do.

>>6832
Nobody gives a shit about TIFs or wants to see them in anything besides other TIFs. TIFs draw titchop versions of characters to self-insert into and to feel better about themselves ("representation"), not because they are sexually attractive. The chasers TIFs irl get are men taking advantage of them pre-T. Nobody wants to see a heterosexual romance between a guy and a hairy women on T who LARPs as a gay man.

>>6832
If these people are as "male" as every other man why do they identify so strong with the "transeness" and not the "maleness"??
If I identified as a man you can bet that you wouldn't find the transflag anywhere near me and would probably never even see me bringing trans topics up, because I just consider myself a man and am chill with that.
Trans wouldn't be nearly as annoying if 90% of them weren't so aggressively insecure. It's like you can instantly spot TIMs by their anti-male paranoia and their performative adoration of femininity online.

>>6832
>we're just as male as any other gay guy
Reminds me of that one pasta image of a tranny going to a gay bear party and nobody wanting to fuck her kek

>>6841
Isn't it because they're fetishizing transness and making a thing out of being kawaii soft pink uwu gay boys?

>>6847
That sounds incredibly funny. Honestly it's the best when they fight amongst each other because what will they do? Call each other bigots for not wanting to touch someone outside their orientation?