No.542
>>541They are "fudanshi" therefore still rotten no matter how they act like they're superior.
No.544
It's weird how this shit just came out of nowhere. Pussyboys, mastectomy scars, or general FtM trans shit was unheard of in fujo fandoms. Stuff like that was so niche you barely saw demand for it in /d/egenerate spaces. Most people, if presented with that stuff, would have agreed it's unappealing. How did it suddenly become so trendy with young teenage girls who would otherwise be into typical fujo stuff? Are they genuinely attracted to it?
No.545
>>544it come from autistic teen girls who can't separate fiction from reality
No.546
>>545Like they can't imagine a 2D male character with feminine traits, so they must see him as a FtM tranny for it to make sense in their heads?
No.547
I hate Aydens trying to desperately self insert in their yaoi and forcing their disgusting TiF scars on characters for their uwu headcanon. It's so annoying.
No.548
>>546most likely explanation, also they don't interact with IRL males that often and just have tropes to base their assumption on
>>547pretty much ever male character with a scar on their body gets headcannoned as trans these days
No.549
i can understand people into cuntboys just like how people into futanari. but ayden try hard to make it likes its some sort 'trans rep' and self insert their pathetic self on 'trans hc' character just make me cringes. just say you're into cuntboy fetishes, fucking faggot.
No.550
>>544I agree except for the fact that I see plenty of Japanese fujoshi drawing cuntboy art on twitter, they tag it and treat it as the fetish it is, and they just draw guys with completely male proportions who just have a pussy instead of a female body with amputated breasts
No.551
>>549> can understand people into cuntboys just like how people into futanariI don't, women don't have penises and men don't have cunts, There are no chicks with dicks, Only guys with tits
No.553
>>544>How did it suddenly become so trendy with young teenage girls who would otherwise be into typical fujo stuff? Are they genuinely attracted to it?The way I personally see it, I think it has to do with years of fujoshi discourse on tumblr telling young girls that they're bad people for liking BL unless they're gay boys themselves.
On top of that, the same crowd has been brainwashing insecure girls into thinking that if they're afraid of puberty and the newfound male attention they'll get with their breasts and hips growing it must mean they were secretly boys all along. I've been browsing the Tranny sideshows on social media thread on Kiwifarms for a long time now and there's also a shit ton of aidens who literally were molested and then gained a complex about their bodies and instead of seeking proper mental help they trooned out cause that's the political climate we live in now.
So these factors together results in a group of girls looking at BL and taking the self-indulgent wish fulfilment too far and trying to become part of their favorite ship and changing male characters into fakebois to feel more valid.
No.554
>>553the funny thing is most gay men really don't even care about fujos, sure you'll find one or two hyperwoke gay men on twitter who think BL is problematic or whatever but the vast majority do not give a shit, its mostly liberal women and aydens fighting this great battle of behalf of gay men
No.557
>fujoshi are evil and problematic!!11
>retweets nothing but bl and fanart drawn by japanese fujoshi
zero self-awareness
No.559
not saying that aidens aren't annoying but from my own observations, even back in the late 2000s/early 2010s there were fujos saying they are a "gay man" inside or wishing they could be part of a yaoi couple
No.560
>>542That's offensive towards actual fudanshi lmao
No.561
>>555It's funny because those interests and music tastes are all incredibly feminine
No.566
>>541Retard here, why do you guys keep calling them Aydens?
No.567
I hate trannies just like everyone still sane but is it really necessary to start with the trannywar threads already so soon? Lolcow already has too much of it, I'm sick of hearing about trannies.
No.570
>>566Ayden is a very stereotypical name fakebois end up naming themselves, its similar to how black people get called called Jamal, indians called pajeet and chinese chang on the internet
No.572
>>567I think a containment thread is fine. When several more threads pop up or threads dedicated to specific lolcows then I think it should be nipped in the bud to avoid becoming lolcow 2.0.
No.580
>>572i agree with its own thread, i dislike trannies but i dont come to fujochan to see it
No.581
>>553I feel like that perfectly describes it. I'm usually a perceptive person that can figure this type of stuff out but even I can't understand why there's so many self-hating women out there.
>>559I don't even think that's a closeted ayden thing, I think most fujoshi said that because some of us want to feel what it's like to be deep inside a cute uke.
No.585
>>572>>568Containment threads just attract more spergs to the board that bleed over to other threads so no, they don't exactly work. I hate troons as much as anyone else but it's exhausting and repetitive to hear the same old "fakebois are annoying NLOGs with yaoi brainrot!!!!" discussion going in circles everywhere you go. If people added something new to the discussion it would be fine, but it's the same predictable rhetoric over and over again.
Besides, Aidens are bottom feeders even in the tranny scene, I feel like beating a dead horse or picking on a retard getting angry over them. They're more sad than anything, I can't bring myself to be as offended as I am about lunatic and predatory male troons especially when the overwhelming majority of "gay" fakebois are trans4trans, get openly ridiculed by gay men and receive no support from other trans activists repeating TWAW but never TMAM.
No.586
>>554The gay guys into nerdy hobbies I've met irl who even care tend to actually want to befriend fujoshi because they also ship male characters. I'm sure the normie gay guys won't know or care about that topic either, or will maybe think it's cool that some girls are interested in pop culture portraying gay guys.
No.588
>>543Terrible book series, but they all only read Y/A shit and it's the closest thing to HP (which they're no longer allowed to like).
No.590
>>544something like this
>>545, but also things like "comfort characters" and "kins" being semi-normalized. zoomers have this oddly transparent boundary between themselves and the media they consume, so transparent that it barely exists. it's like self-insertion to the extreme.
>>545> I feel like beating a dead horse or picking on a retard getting angry over themthat's cool, but some people want to seethe about them. hide the thread and don't interact.
> it's exhausting and repetitive to nobody forced you into this thread, nona.
No.592
>>585>>567I never meant for a thread about Aydens/TIFs in general, rather specifically about Aydens with in the BL community
No.595
>>592Wouldn't most of aiden content go under general "anti-fujo cringe" or "fujo cringe moments" threads anyway? It feels redundant to have a thread for fakebois alone to cannibalize those when they're the ones providing the most content in both categories. The "I realized I was a gay man through reading yaoi" awkwardness goes under fujo cringe moments and the general "fujos are fetishizing my transmasc gay ass" whining under "anti-fujo cringe". This thread is in danger of just devolving into a clone of the Fakeboi thread on Lolcow which is basically just troons trying to outtroon each other by being a trutranser troon than the rest of all the troons and tradthot yumes posting "she ruined herself" image compilations of girls who cut their hair short while the two already existing threads remain dead.
No.598
>>595TIFs are probably the biggest internal parasite with in our communities, you can't just ignore them and the thread lolcow is mostly by women who aren't into BL and regularly blame it for the reason we have aydens, this thread will be from our perspective
No.599
>>590>comfort charactersI, even as someone with a husbando, never understood what a "comfort character". Is it a character an autistic fan treats as her security blanket?
>kinningOh, yeah, skinwalking. Some people treat it casually and just kin because perhaps they are yumes and want to be able to self insert into fujo art, but others are extremely serious with it and even call themselves by the name of the character they skinwalk the hell out of in order to hide their idenitity issues.
Reminder that they'll neverbe the characters they claim to be.
>>595>>598>Ayden cringe thread, but from a fujo perspectiveSounds based. I hope it gets going soon.
No.602
>>599maybe a comfort character is a character you think about when things get tough irl
No.607
>>564>it has a unique art style and aesthetic that's all they need kek. zoomers are all about aesthetic and vibes – any aesthetic they like is labeled a "gender" and made part of their personality.
No.609
>>607Reminds me of the -core trend. Such as animecore which is basically zoomers obsessed with the anime aesthetic but don't actually like anime. They've been forcing their way into various anime communities and causing problems because they disrespect the "local customs" so to speak and go on moral crusades over shit they don't understand.
No.710
>>708>I usually like to blame my husbandChrist, I feel bad for the guy.
No.711
>>710I don't, he chooses to humor her delusions rather then setting her straight and trying to be a good partner, I only feel bad for her kid whose stuck with her
No.811
>>541>cant misgender me blah blahYWNBAM
There you go, Owned.
No.814
>>810What the absolute fuck does this even mean, also the guy on the right makes me want to vomit
No.816
>>81099% sure this is sarcasm, thankfully
>>814That's a woman on testosterone, who apparently expresses her true and honest manly soul by getting her pussy pounded. It's hilarious how even with the roid 'stache she's so obviously just an ugly woman, not a man
No.817
>>810>>812I think 99% of the comments on the videos are gay guys calling the video schizo and conversion therapy at least
No.818
>>586This has been largely my experience as well, if they are into anime they are pretty chill and read BL, unless they young and been infected by tiktok/twitter, but that's not a guy only problem sadly.
A lot of them are really transphobic, which actually makes talking to them nice since a lot of fujo I find on twitter seem to really like vaginas on their male character.
No.819
>>816>That's a woman on testosterone, who apparently expresses her true and honest manly soul by getting her pussy poundedIs this the natural progression of a society that is obsessed with sex and sexual relationships? To let your need to be desired and pounded rule over your entire life and personality, to the point of transforming your body into an irredeemable monstrosity? Are sex and identity politics really worth that much?
This post was made by a virgin by the way.
No.820
>>818I actually really love vaginas on my male characters if, and only if, there’s a penis too.
Male-futa/ hermaphrodites are pretty based.
No.821
>>819Meh, I don't think it's necessarily the case. NB/trans is just the new emo, a lot of these trannies are not actual trannies
No.823
>>821and if they are they should off themselves
No.824
>>810This has to be bait. I refuse to believe otherwise.
No.825
>>820>Male-futa/ hermaphrodites are pretty based.ewwww
No.827
>>820So this is what bait on fujochan looks like
No.870
>>869"Ummm as a neurodivergent agender lesbian I feel uncomfy with the way you're getting across this message. Some folks might have a dissociative trauma-related breakdown because your tone is scarily close to that of ableist, toxic transphobes who gatekeep often neurodivergent comprehension of trans issues."
No.872
>>869So fucking condescending. How can anyone deal with being around someone so condescending? I remember girls like this at school, who can't talk to other people without coming across like assholes. Also I hate how she's taking this "misgendering" thing so seriously and acting like it's an affront to her existence and then shaming people who apologize for misgendering. Pick a fucking struggle.
No.874
>>872Honestly anyone who shames someone for genuinely trying is an asshole that doesn't deserve the respect at all. This gender shit is still new and people are actually trying to understand it and freaks like this just throw it in normal people's faces and wonder why they're hated so much. They all look the same too so I just completely avoid these weirdos at all costs.
No.877
>>876The amount of pimples on that face could supply Domino's for life.
No.879
>>876Please tell me this is satire.
No.1080
>>1079Holy shit lmao I'm so glad I stopped watching dubs years ago. What the fuck is happening in the west anymore
No.1081
>>1079Why does he speak like a ochinchin
No.1086
>>1081The fuck does that mean, he's got a shota voice? Most shota characters are voiced by women anyway lel
No.1089
>>1086NTA but this site automatically censors the n word to ochinchin. Yes, it's stupid.
No.1129
>>1089Wtf why? That is retarded we use every other bad word here why the fuck is that one different? Doesn't even say it in the rules.
No.1130
>>1129Something how black people are more important than fags and retards I guess
No.1131
>>1089>>1129>>1130the official reason is that racebaiting is not allowed, the real reason is that it's just dumb and funny as a filter.
No.1132
>>1131Does that mean chink, beaner, gook, and other words along the same lines are banned too? It is kind of dumb to ban one but not the others, but also I'm just curious so I don't get banned.
No.1133
>>1132yes, depending on context those are all prohibited. it's only the one word that got changed by filter, but everything else along the same line is still banned.
No.1136
>>1133>depending on contextJust still trying to be clear on this, thank you for answering, but if it depends on context then why would only the n word be banned altogether? I know you said it's because the edit is funny but unlike the anon above who seemed to have used it in an actual racial context, what if someone said "I hate draman*ggers". It's not race specific because of the context but still includes that word. What if someone changed it to "I hate dramaspics", would they still be banned even thought that's not race specific? Or is it just best to add "fag" to the end of everything lol. Thanks again for answering.
No.1138
>>1136the one word isn't banned altogether, it's just filtered that way. using it as a part of a noun like draman*ggers is fine, as is anything with fag and other slurs. only in a racebaiting, like, actually being racist kind of context will the words be a bannable offense, anything other than that is fine
No.1378
>>1377Honestly, I don't think these people view amabs and afabs as the same. Someone on /lgbt/ said that the whole amab and afab thing just feels like gender stereotyping.
No.1379
This talk of aidens reminds me of a doujinshi I saw a few years back. It was tagged yaoi, but instead of a penis, the bottom had a prolapsed vagina.
No.1383
I used to be fine with trannies, as in I could just ignore them and carry on with enjoying my anime boys, but they've gotten more and more annoying over time. They never fucking tag their tranny shit in art, they post their straight fics in the M/M tag, they believe that everyone is fine with their implication that a character that's obviously fine with their gender is a mentally ill tranny. And if you speak up on this in the nicest way possible, you're transphobic blah blah. Why do people that aren't even trannies themselves stay quiet and even support this? At this point if I see a fic with a billion tags and I have to go through them slowly I need to pray there isn't a fucking Trans Character tag. Art meanwhile doesn't get tagged, and it's taken for granted that everyone is ok with it. It's also interesting how they always only make the bottom trans, or they do that and make the top a trans girl, so straight in both cases.. Not homophobic at all.
I hope this is also fine to mention here but I enjoy F/F as well and nothing kills my mood more than seeing one of the girls tagged as trans, I don't even need to give the fic a view to know there'll be multiple mentions of girl dick. Disgusting.
Sorry for sperging, I am just so sick of this. Fandom gets worse day by day thanks to this tranny shit and I wish someone, anyone, would speak up on it.
No.1384
>>1383I dont mind trannies but I think what we're getting is a bunch of young trenders who think it's cool and subversive to be backhandedly sexist and homophobic.
>Long haired boy? well actually, SHE'S a transwoman, or a NB icon, bc you can ONLY stick to gender norms or else your gender card is revoked uuuuwuu. >You disagree? omg, bigoted!! Then when they call it a headcanon, and you politely ask "Isn't this actually an au?" they blow up on you like you're 'literally hitler', you're totally oppressing them bc the author doesn't know what they're writing!! THEY'RE the only ones who are media literate and you just wouldn't understand!!
I totally get latching on to characters bc of like sympathetic reasons or whatever but these people absolutely cannot separate themselves from what they consume, and do not have the empathy to understand that people may express themselves differently from them. Probably the same reason these fuckers go out of their way to harass people for 'problematic' content.
Picture compleeeeeetely unrelated.
No.1399
>>1383>F/F where one of them is transGod that irritates me so much. The character is a LESBIAN, why would she or the person she's gonna fuck have a penis? And the author has the audacity to have the trans one whip out their meat and have the other one be surprised they have a dick. Like, come on, 99% of trannies are clockable from a distance. If a "girl" I was with whipped out a cock I would run for the hills, why the hell are all these fictional lesbians suddenly okay with sucking girlcock? I know it's just characters who don't exist having sex but it's so unrealistic and gross.
No.1400
>>1399Why, you ask? Because the tranny author has the need to self insert and project onto the character of course. Both male and female trannies do this, they make one of the character trans and basically write out a self insert fantasy of theirs, it's the furthest thing from realistic. Not only does it usually not make sense for a character to be trans, they also make everyone else in the fic supportive and ok with it, it's really just a pathetic fantasy that's not even close to in-character. Some F/F tags are legit depressing, it's no wonder there's a lot of fujo lesbians these days.
No.1401
>>1383The lack of tagging is what drives me bonkers. I don't mind trans OCs but tripping over trans headcanons when I'm browsing a character or pairing tag sends me because what's the point of a tag exclusion if it DOESN'T WORK?
Anybody who speaks up about it, even if it's as gentle as "please remember to tag your trans HCs, thanks :)", will get dogpiled into oblivion for transphobia.
No.1403
>>1401Yup. Not to mention, it's never tagged as Other on AO3(isn't that what the tag is for?) but as M/M. They literally don't think people are allowed a preference for not wanting to see PiV sex in their gay fan content, because then you dont see trans men as real men or whatever bullshit they say. I should be able to look at the kind of media I want to without being questioned about it on a political level. They probably don't get that being petty over fanfics/fanart like this is just making people get sick of all this trans bullshit even if they used to be ok with it in the past.
No.1404
>>1403>>1401>>1400>>1399>>1384Not to mention how they gaslight you into accepting it ("how is two men fucking not yaoi" when one or both of the "men" in question has no dick). I still can't unsee
>>1379 No.1411
>>1399Tranny shit really does feel like coomer conversion therapy fantasies most of the time. I've noticed that the character left intact ("cis" as they call it) is almost always gay/lesbian, either canonically or very highly suggested to be in canon, and the other half of the m/m or f/f pairing is made the opposite sex. I feel like I'm going crazy, just a few years ago it was obvious to everyone other than religious nuts that gay men love dick and hate pussy, and lesbians love pussy and hate dick. Anyone who suggested otherwise was rightly called homophobic. How did such an ostensibly progressive generation end up Westboro Baptist'ing their smut fics and thinking it was activism? Mental.
No.1516
Been trying to stay mostly on the East Asian side for my fandom but came across a he/him recently, I checked the carrd and instantly clocked her as an ayden. Honestly I don't even understand why aydens think they can pass as a man in fujo spaces. BL is literally geared toward women. You always see TIFs crawling like cockroaches in BL fandom spaces but never TIMs, and it's obvious why. Idk why I'm rambling, I just find it so annoying when they slap he/him and they/them pronouns in their bio shit and think we see them as anything but female lol. I'm not saying men can't be into BL; I've actually met one fudanshi, but the way a fujoshi participates in fandom space is so different from the way a fudanshi does (mostly because of socialization, kind of like how you can tell a woman from a man on the internet by the way they type).
No.1530
>>1516>Been trying to stay mostly on the East Asian side for my fandomYou too? I feel like anything related to the non-asian side of a fandom is literally cancer. It used to be only twitter but now the disease spreads.
>>1383This. I used to not care about them until they started to actually interfere with translations and start attack JP artists. Why can't people not conflate fiction and reality? Leave anime/games/whatever alone. 3D is not 2D.
No.1653
I always thought other anons complaining about the abundance of trans headcanoning was just them exaggerating the issue but after meeting a zoomer fujo personally I'm baffled at the amount of trans headcanoning she does. Literally every cute boy has to be trans. Anything can be twisted to be signs of this anime boy secretly being a trans man. What the fuck I don't want this hetbending bullshit in my face. This is no different from making male characters straight out female so you can self insert better, gay ships be damned. Makes my head hurt so much, I'm sorry I doubted the nonnies who bitched about this.
No.1654
>>1653Its even worse when they hc real life people as being transboys, like there's something lowkey racist about the amount of trans headcanons aydens make of male kpop stars
No.1655
>>1516>Honestly I don't even understand why aydens think they can pass as a man in fujo spaces. BL is literally geared toward women. You always see TIFs crawling like cockroaches in BL fandom spaces but never TIMs, and it's obvious why.Yeah, it's very true. I;ve definitely noticed that TiMs cluster in majority male fandoms, and vice versa for the TiFs.
Ayden, if you really think you're a guy, why don't you pick up a programming language and start playing Touhou games instead? I'm sure that'll make everyone on the internet think you're a man.
>>1653>I always thought other anons complaining about the abundance of trans headcanoning was just them exaggerating the issue but after meeting a zoomer fujo personally I'm baffled at the amount of trans headcanoning she does. Anything can be twisted to be signs of this anime boy secretly being a trans man.Agreed. And it always feels like they're projecting onto the characters, presumably to cope with the fact that they're NPCs with no actual personality shaped by real world interactions and therefore start using fictional characters from media they get into as a way to form a "self-image".
No.1679
>>1376>This is what mass grooming looks like, convincing young girls that liking BL means they are transmen, this will lead to so many fucking unintended consequencesI've already read some detrans story of girls who regretted chopping their tits off over being a typical fujo. But at the same time I feel like these are the same fujos that think bringing yaoi paddles to cons are socially acceptable. So eh.
>>1653It's odd. Whether there's a feminine trap character or twink, zoomer aidens are quick to headcanon them as 'women'. I rarely see masculine bara characters get headcanon-trooned.
These are the same types that will lecture others about diversity yet they have this fixed idea that if a male character has feminine traits they are actually a troon aka not a real man.
No.1682
>>1680they wanna be opressed so bad
No.1683
>>1680>I am not transphobic and I respect their identities. If you think the aidens whining about fujos "fetishizing their sexuality" are bad wait until you find out about the fetishistic, misogynist mtf trannies larping as lesbians while trying to get the entire definition of womanhood be removed so that they'll have an access to all female spaces and take over their voices.
No.1684
>>1683Nonna, the reason people think we who hold these views are crazy is because we dump everything on them at once. While you're completely correct, presenting information like this to a reasonable person who does not yet see what's wrong with the 'just let trans people live their lives' narrative will only serve to make them plug their ears.
Like the anon you responded too probably just thinks you spewed some toxic alt-right talking points or some shit.
No.1692
>>1680>I am not transphobic and I respect their identities.Everyone has a breaking point. After a while you're gonna start being transphobic alongside us. They don't deserve respect when they destroy everything they touch and steal our spaces.
No.1693
>>1692nah, rightoids like you always lose to progress
No.1694
>>1693What does being right-wing have to do with it? If anything, troons have been screwing over gays/lesbians and women for the past decade.
No.1695
>>1693Trannies are right wing and the alt right incel to troon pipeline is real so I guess you played yourself.
No.1696
>>1693It might sound a bit weird at first but trust me, being against troons is a leftwing thing.
No.1697
>>1694>>1695>>1696this is some heavy metal copium
But it makes sense for losers like you to be so detached from reality, otherwise you wouldn't be wrong about everything all the time
No.1698
>>1697just to follow up on this
Don't let republican scrotes trick you into being on the wrong side of history. Honest liberal women support trans rights.
No.1700
>>1699if they don't like it then they should stop siding with them
No.1701
>>1700>thinking gendercritical radfems side with alt rightersmust be very comforting to have such a black/white vision of the world
No.1702
>>1693>>1693Is grooming little kids into taking hormones progress? Is validating a mental illness progress? Is taking up spaces that belong to us progress?
You're retarded.
No.1703
>>1702you'll need to learn to let go of your hate and right-wing disinformation, nona
No.1704
>>1703i don't hate trannies, i just don't want a giant hulking man in women's spaces, nor do i want women claiming to be men to force their politics on other women. is that too much to ask for anymore?
No.1706
>>1705>gaylmao does she really
No.1707
>>1704Yes, obviously
If someone told they don't hate blacks but don't want "giant hulking blacks" in white spaces you'd obviously see through them as a bigot. Just as people can see through your terf nonsense as bigotry
No.1708
>>1703She just looks like… A regular woman who happens to like the color black.
No.1709
>>1707Are trans women and cis women exactly the same? In your opinion. Do you believe they have the same needs and issues?
Maybe we can all talk about it calmly. Have a cute Yato.
No.1711
>>1709they are not exactly the same just in the same way that whites and blacks are not exactly the same
that doesn't mean they don't get the same rights
No.1712
>>1710why do they want to be fags so bad
No.1713
>>1707Your shit false equivalency aside I'm glad you brought up the race example. Race and gender are natal and immutable. I wouldn't want to see a black man in the women's restroom just as much as I don't want to see a white man because they're both men, but a black woman is just as welcomed as a white woman because they're both women. If you can't change your race, you can't change your gender. You can alter your body to look more like the opposite gender on the surface just like Rachel Dolezal got a bargain afro but just like she didn't turn black by doing this, you can't become the opposite gender. Rachel Dolezal could never understand how it is like to grow up and live as a black person just like a male with XY chromosomes can never understand what the female experience is like.
It's really telling even here that people feel way, way more comfortable shitting on Aidens and FTMs in general but bringing up anything regards of MTFs puts them into high defensive mode and a hurried "I respect their identity!" spiel. Hmm, I wonder why that might be?
No.1714
>>1707i'm gonna assume you're not actually baiting me, that you're just a misguided handmaiden, and tell you now that that's a huge false equivalence that's being fed to you by tras. black women are far more feminine in their existence than a giant hulking white man in a dress will ever be. trans identifying males will never have a second x chromosome. i'll even be nice to them sometimes because they're mentally ill, but not much more. give them an inch and they'll take a mile.
i'll drop the topic here, though, since male variant trannies are far from the subject thread we have. i will leave you with a thought experiment, though, why are all these men with ma'amsonas not into yaoi in the first place? shouldn't it be the the most validating thing in the world to like something female-oriented? vice versa for the mansona-having females, why is it they are obsessed with it if they're such manly men?
No.1717
>>1711One's a race/ethnicity/cultural difference and the other is a biological difference. The first one is external differences and cultural differences, in which the latter is harder to define. Sex is a biological difference which is much easier to define considering it is a binary.
No.1718
>>1707I'm lesbian with normie mtf friends. They don't have a porn habit, don't call themselves transbians, and do have hobbies and date others. They also strongly dislike this type of behaviour/argument from other trans people and trans activists because it assumes on their behalf what they're thinking/feeling, and makes them look racist with this argument alone. We have all acknowledged at some point in our friendship that "amabs" don't belong in "afab" spaces and they use the male facilities despite passing easily (they looked androgynous before transitioning anyway). FTR I'm not criticising you by posting this despite how it may come across. I understand wanting to defend friends. But, I can't stress this enough, trustworthy friends don't try and change laws to access your changing rooms.
No.1719
>>1718looooooool
You're really using the "I-I'm not racist some of my best friends are black and they all say…" argument??
No.1722
>>1716>I don't hate trans people, though some of them are clearly pornsick. I don't hate all men, but I do think some areas are clearly sex-segregated for a reason and I don't see gender as being a helpful defining term for any actual policies or organizational systems.I agree with you. I don't understand why they are so insistent upon it. The area was never segregated in 'these people identify as women' and 'these people identify as men', and nobody ever thinks about why they were int he first place.
If someone is for trans people in restrooms, then why does segregation exist in the first place? Why don't they just argue 'everybody should go to the same restroom, because none of it matters'? They clearly don't care about cis women's safety, so why don't they go the whole way and just argue for single gender neutral restrooms?
No.1723
>>1722because trans women are women, cis women are women and women should have bathrooms separate from men.
Its not a hard concept to get.
Terfs need to understand that they are not the victims in this situation, transwomen are.
(infighting) No.1725
>>1723Where does the threshold for a trans woman run? If a man starts identifying as a male but makes no effort in passing, should his "identity" still be respected? If an obviously mentally ill man starts identifying as woman as a symptom of mental illness such as Chris-chan, should he be allowed in female spaces too? What about obvious fetishists like the Canadian chestplate teacher who made news just last week? Or is a trans woman defined by "well-behaved transsexual who knows his place and wears enough makeup and effeminate clothes"? Should trans women be allowed to make decisions that affect only cis women (such as male on female sexual crimes, access to abortion, health care of female-specific issues etc) even when they don't have any personal experience with them? Should they be given positions of power reserved for women? You see, it's either all or nothing. We can't cherrypick "the good ones" that we reward with female pronouns for not acting up. If a gay person is an objectively bad person, they're still gay if they experience same sex attraction exclusively. With a trans woman, what exactly makes them a woman when they're biologically male? The entire definition of "gender identity" is based on social constructs and stereotypes, the only way a sex is determined is by biological absolutes such as the combination of chromosomes and reproductive organs.
No.1731
>>1728The gendercrit/radfem anons were always here and on any other female imageboards since the beginning.
No.2038
>>2036why do they all have the same sounding voice? is it a hrt thing?
No.2039
>>2036this is such a "woman" response, if this was a mtf this would be very different
No.2069
>>2036Not to be rude, but do these people realize that no one actually sees them as what gender they believe themselves to be? I actually feel kind of bad for them.
No.2126
>>2069No, they don't realize it. They're genuinely delusional.
No.2135
>>2036This is such a womans room. 90% of men can not decorate for shit and the ones that can have a clearly male room
No.2322
>>2319Wtf I was so confused for a second
This is a war crime.
No.2333
there's a fandom ship zine I'm cautiously excited about but this fandom is infested with Ayyyydens and I don't want to spend money on something that has troonshit in it sighhhhhh
I see it starting to get its tentacles into the East Asian side of fandom as well, in twitter bios. god help me if Pixiv and Lofter and them turn into Tumblr within the decade
No.2986
>>2333Twitter and its consequences.
No.2991
>>2333You can pretty much give up on fandom zine. They don't even stick to their shit, you can't even a western BL where trannies and vaginas are banned.
Surprised they managed to release a running with the wind doujin recently without tranny shit despite the writer being a they/them (theyfab but still)
No.2993
>>2991I actually have more het/gen/female focused zines than BL ones just because the BL ones are more likely to have something I don't care for in them. If the artists I actually like have prints available I will just get one of those instead.
No.3003
>>2333I don't understand how this is a problem since the majority of fanzines have horrible tumblr-tier art. Are you really missing out on anything worthwhile?
No.3008
>>3003Zine art can run the gamut from tumblr-tier person of gender tier to “holy shit these people must draw for a living” level. In fact lots of people complain about zines being too competitive these days, which implies a minimum level of skill required (at least in larger fandoms). For me personally, the main draw is the merch.
No.3119
>>544cuntboys were always a transformation fetish thing but even cuntboy fags hate the tranny kind
No.3183
>>3179Yeah it's like they want to complain but are too worried about getting mean comments. I mean, what are these delulu straight teenage girls going to do? Dox anyone who sees them for what they are? I doubt it.
No.3187
>>3119I've seen some 18+ male figurines around lately that sometimes have a pussy option and I've also seen at least one aiden say something like "Wow it's neat they have a transmasc option" and I thought to myself "I'm pretty sure that's just for the cuntboy people."
No.3190
>>3187NTA, but do you mean like JP figure companies? It's not that I don't believe it but I just don't know that much about figures besides big companies like goodsmile and nendroid.
No.3191
>>3190I can't find what I was thinking of and I'm tired of scrolling but this twitter posts 18+ male figs. I don't know anything about the companies making these.
https://twitter.com/Yaoi_Figures No.3193
>>3191Tons of R18 figs are by this Chinese company who don't give a shit about licensing or copyrights. They'll do whatever sells so I wouldn't be surprised if it was them.
No.3228
I'm so frustrated with how I can be in a group that's mostly just enjoyable and chill but even a single Ayden can just barge in and ruin the mood by policing everybody's language. It's basically a power trip but in the whiniest and most attention-seeking way possible and of course everyone else has to bend over backwards to please this person and apologize for their 'problematic language' and promise to do better. I hate having to walk on eggshells for these people SO much. Anonymous imageboards aren't perfect but I'd go insane if I didn't have at least some places where I don't have to submit to a power tripping whiner.
No.3285
once again, thank you all for giving me so much evidence for my essay on how tucutes have completely sabotaged the LGBT acceptance movement
No.3288
>>3285>tucutesall trannies are the same at their core. the notion that some are valid while others aren't, "no true transman…", is bull.
No.4151
>>4145Artist I follow flashbanged me with this a few months ago and memories came flooding back.
I was lurking on /a/ more during fujochan's downtime and learned per another anon's calculation that, at the time of the post, 27.6% of the "penis in vagina sex" tag on Ao3 is also under the M/M category.
No.5063
Can you report 'cuntboy', 'futa', 'FtM' fics in AO3 for being mislabelled as m/m?
No.5064
>>5063Futa yes, cuntboy/ftm is still "identified male" and Ao3 doesn't touch that can of worms.
No.5069
>>5064>"identified male" LOL Fuck them.
No.5075
>>541Am I lucky or in the wrong(right) fandoms if I never observed any of this so far? The closest things I ever witnessed were single funny pics where one of the guys got genderbent or dirty talk in fanfics or art mentioning pregnancy or "cunt", but this is never anything but words and the act is clearly described or drawn as gay sex with dick in the ass. I don't think this is what this thread is about.
I feel like the transifycation is more common in western fandoms and mainstream shounen? I don't follow these types of series I wouldn't notice it even if it was rampant there. Or is this more of a thing that happens in fandoms for live action or femboys?
No.5083
>>5063Cuntboy can still be M/M provided that they are still basically male and not with any implications of being trans. Just basically a fetish for pussy, but doesn't make them 'afab' or whatever.
But if it's mentioned that they are totally on the T and transitioned and whatever yeah like the other anon says it's impossible to fight against that
No.5085
>>5075Same I almost never run into any tranny stuff in my fandoms, I know it exists because I filter it on Ao3 and can see the count go down a bit but I've never been surprised by a fic, and rarely see cuntboy art, full genderswap seems to be way more common.
I'd be curious if anyone has any "problem" fandoms which are especially egregious. The only one I can even remotely think of is Danganronpa woth Chihiro but that mostly is people bitching in the comments of fanworks or people who cleary haven't even played the games not people who produce actual fan content.
No.5088
Noooo, i literally just stumbled into a fic of just tif fanart despite my 101 ao3 exclude filters. The fucker didn’t tag it at all in any capacity either. That’ll teach me to go into something fandom blind again. I just wanted to check out the fanart people post on ao3. It was DSMP fandom for anyone who’s wondering. Now I know to never touch that shit fandom ever again.
No.5089
>>5085Charisma House. The western fandom is just "[name] is a trans woman ohemgee" on loop. It feels insulting sometimes because they'll make jokes where the joke is calling one of the characters female.
No.5091
>>5085JJK was pretty bad for a while. Not sure if it's still that bad, but I remember scrolling down a whole page of sukufushi on AO3 and finding a grand total of one where Megumi didn't have a cunt.
No.5093
>>5085Final fantasy 14 is my most active fandom right now and I'll see TIFs or They/them-identified women artists and their genderspecial OCs relatively often. Though like someone mentioned in another thread it's a unique type of fandom where people's OCs and OC/Canon ships are given more attention than in other fandoms cause it's an MMO and it does make sense that genderspecials will make their player OC a genderspecial too. Funnily enough I've seen a TIF artist feel guilty over that she ended up preferring to draw her OC with a dick for her BL art and I thought to myself "There you have it, you can't deny being a fujoshi." Genderspecial art is annoying here cause I'm actually into OC/canon if the artist's player OC is an attractive male who is paired with a male canon character I like, but sometimes I'll have to dig through the rest of an artist's page to see if their cute male OC character has zippertits scars and a pussy that wasn't visible in the initial art I saw. Though the worst thing that happened recently was when an artist who drew lots of shipping art with a canon character I've recently gotten obsessed with released their first NSFW art with the two and revealed they headcanoned the canon character with a pussy. It was my personal 9/11 and retroactively ruined every single piece of previous art as well. I had to mute the artist on twitter cause they'd still show up in my For you page or be retweeted by people I still follow and there was a newer pic where they had a baby now too and I cringed so hard.
No.5094
>>5085i second jjk being bad, there's entire discourses on why geto is actually a woman and arguments on t/b based off that with death threats and whatnot.
also despite my ao3 filters for cuntshit i still get those from time to time, mostly because they won't tag properly and use very niche tags instead like the very cursed "sugussy" and "gojussy". it's like they do it on purpose so we all have to see the stuff, but i bet that if anyone didn't tag their ~triggers~ or whatever we'd have callouts for months.
anyways, what's everyone's experience with this? other fandoms too, i'm curious about if genderspecials not putting a warning on their stuff is a thing
No.5096
>>5094>sugussyI've seen dekussy and bakussy in the bnha fandom.
You just need to put the following in your "search within results" and it gets rid of any fics with the pussy or Xussy tags kek:
-*ussy
No.5101
>>5085I feel like it's primarily western fandoms, idol shit, Gacha/MMO shit, mainstream battle shounen that attract kids and twink ridden series and I don't like any of those. I doubt there are many transifyers in the fandoms for series I love. Every loud fangirl type of fujo or emotionally unstable fan (those are the ones that usually transify and genderbend since they're afraid of men) I met avoided those like the plague even when I showed them that they contain a ton of fujo pandering.
No.5106
>>5085>I'd be curious if anyone has any "problem" fandoms which are especially egregiousI am specifically avoiding the new Trigun because I know if the Vash brainworms get me I'm going to have an irritating time.
>>5097>>5093XIV getting big in the west was such a monkey paw. I hate that "I don't want to see PIV" will get you labeled a TERF and blocked. None of these people ever write two trans men clamslamming, it's ALWAYS about PIV.
No.5108
>>5106Because deep down they're just straight women, probably more straight than actual kinsey 0 straight women. They become trans as a sort of cope away from all the grievances of being a woman only to then realize they are like other women, so they double down into a cesspool of drag queen loving femboy bullshit.
No.5111
>>5106I think it's fandom hijacking combined with the urge to come off as quirky and different. Fujos were always the most active fandom groups so if you join a fandom you will most likely end up in fujo spaces. So these people claim to be fujo, label their shit as fujo, but actually only enjoy het. I hate that they do this, I hate that they can't just form their own damn community instead of invading and leeching off of the ones already existing.
But guess making a het shipping group would be too normal, social media related attention addiction damaged humanity forever. I would accept it if they would be honest and say it's a kink of them and label it as such. Same as futa and the likes. You can make a thread or discord channel for this then and everybody enjoys what they like most in peace. But nobody dares to say this since they think it would erase or fetishize online trannies.
No.5118
>>5111I feel like if this was pre-2016 minus all the woke and your identity is valid garbage etc. the cuntboy stuff could exist without being a nuisance and eyesore to everyone. You could easily tell people off to tag it or openly say it's a squick, but because of trannyism people will slap the transphobic label onto you if you don't like it and don't consider it yaoi (b-but men with vaginas are men and gay men can like pussy!!!111! shit). Years back magic pussy was just seen as a niche fetish trope like any other and it should've stayed that way but people have to tie it to a queer activist thing. They can't admit it's just something they get their rocks off too otherwise they're fetishizing trans men, or they're TIFs themselves so they take it as a personal attack that you don't consider PIV as gay sex.
No.5119
>>5111>fetishize online tranniesThat part never made sense. Futa and by extension yuri and yaoi aren't analogues to actual lgbt people. You have to be self-minded to think that. But naturally when met with any chance to feel oppressed, TIFs will hop in and declare yaoi to be inherently problematic–until you take a look at their likes. Most of them are still the same ebil fujos they so despise, since in the end, they're still women under all those snitches and garish hair dye. The difference? One knows they are a fujo while the other would rather close their ears and start screaming microaggressions at the slightest refute.
No.5120
>>5118Yeah I remember that cuntboy/herm stuff was already a thing when I was reading DBZ alien porn 20 years ago. But it was rare, I usually saw it with non-humans and it was mentioned before and the headcanon a certain writer. And since everybody hid their fics on their angelfire homepages it was more private and never linked to any sort of political message. If you didn't like it you didn't visit that website anymore and that's it. I didn't know livejournal existed back then so I never experienced actual sharing of fics or images. You were the guest entering the private shrine of someone else, so you looked whether you like it or not and stay or go.
>pre-2016I also think it was 2016 when the shift happened. The weirdest part is cuntboy stuff that is associated with transness within the story, speak it's a woman with top surgery. I feel like the cunt stuff in the past was written with a different thing in mind. The ones I stumbled upon were either pure kink or hermaphrodite stories about an otherwise normal male character with dick but a hidden V that nobody knows about till his lover casually discovers it.
My theory back then was that some writers added this to give the guy some hidden, feminine vulnerability that they can relate to on the one hand and use to give the character an alleged weak spot on the other hand that the lover accepts until the "mutated" bottoming guy accepts that he accepts it. The mutated aspect is probably another projection of alienation that some writers might have experienced, considering that fandom members are often autistic, lonely or otherwise victims of some bad experiences or alienation.
But with modern troonification I have no explanation. It's not seen as weak spot, alienating thing or anything private anymore and not a kink either. It rather feels like flat-out shilling or self-presentation. Not defending the old stuff, but I believe I can at least understand why it was written by women who only ever uploaded it on their private, super-secret homepages.
No.5121
>>5118>>5119What confuses me the most about these people is that they feel entirely different from trans people I met or heard of in the past. The ones I knew actually passed for what they wanted to be (sometimes the voice was slightly off but rest felt normal) and despite that their life didn't revolve around it.
Modern trannies are weirder IMO. At least the fandom ones. Like I have yet to see one, and I mean a SINGLE one, that even tries to pass. It's usually the exact same types of loud, annoying, sheltered girls with the exact same body type and potato face and none of them act or looks remotely boyish. I AM sometimes confused with a young man and I don't even try to look like it. I get the feeling that the transness with these people is more of a stupid quirk or fashion statement. They don't even wear gender neutral clothes, what is it?
Like one of the loudest one I know is regularly posting her giant tits on twitter where she is posing half-naked or in some leather costume. And then she gets triggered (or pretends to) because someone "misgenders" her. I don't understand. This whole trend is weird as fuck to me. It wouldn't be nearly as strange and artificial if they were at least "usual", more or less passing trannies that looked and remotely behaved like the gender of choice and enjoy things like normal people.
No.5122
>>5118Trans headcanon stuff was definitely taking off around 2013 in my memory but it wasn't quite as unavoidable as it is now.
I bet that if het fic were to get taken over by cis man/trans woman fic which was all written as anal sex to the same extent as PiV with slash, the homophobic type of normie hetshippers would be much more vocally pissed off and wouldn't put up with it.
No.5128
>>5097>kink zine called UnmitigatedWas it a general kink mag or BL-specific?
No.5209
>Have majority of authors in a ship tag muted because they always post PiV and other kinks I'm not into
>Fic count keeps updating, can't see shit
>Curious in case there is some new Halloween fic so I log out for 1 second
>Skim tags of first fic: 'vaginal fingering'
>Log back in
Yeah, there was no point in hoping. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
No.5210
I only encounter PiV for non-human males but if it IS a non-human (or two) then PiV is guaranteed and makes up nearly 100% of all nsfw art and fics.
No.5218
I'm genuinely convinced the majority of transfic writers and artists are just closeted misogynistic M/F shippers in denial.
Why do I need to know about a characters's bandages or bind to cover 'his' tits? Why do I have to somehow have a talk about how "btw I love your boobies and cunt but you're a still a guy tehe" in the middle of a fic?
It feels as if they think they're above genderbends, or think it's transphobic to even make genderbends or say the word (this is something I've seen).
There's no reason for the character getting trannyfied to not just simply be written as a woman, literally just call him a woman at that point instead of "no you see he may be looking exactly like a boy but has a woman's body and is even 'feminized' but it's not a girl ok!!" it's just pathetic.
Embrace the wattpad M/F author in you that wants to selfinsert into rape fics instead of trying to be some stupid genderspecial
No.5222
>>5218Oh man I didn't know some wrote characters as outright trans. I casually encounter cuntboy art or fics but it was never actually trans it's always just the cuntboy kink, like futanari basically. This is especially bad because even if I liked het it would kill my immersion completely if they would reveal that one of the characters was a girl midways and start with this validation talk, wtf
No.5225
>>5218It's a mix of being hetfags in denial and self-inserting. Honestly I consider these people even more heterosexual than the average M/F shipper because they literally turn every ship they like into that shit.
>think it's transphobic to even make genderbendsThis used to be really common but it's dying off now. People used to pester others to tag their genderbends as "cisswaps" (and some would still get mad at that). I've seen a lot more art of it now even from the moralfag types who originally were mad over it. No idea why people suddenly flipped but thank god it's over.
No.5273
>>6902
The one thing about trannies I never understood is why they wouldn't actually identify with the gender they claim to be and always resort to trans characters.
>I am a man
>Then write stories about men, please
>fuck no, here is your woman with cut-off tits
It's funny how cis fujos can write men perfectly fine and relate to characters regardless of gender as long as they like them but somehow TIFs can't. The character they write has to be an imperfect man otherwise they can't think from his/her viewpoint for some reason.
No.5274
Sorry this wasn't supposed to be a reply, no idea why I accidentally pasted this number!
No.5280
>>5273Self-insertion is a plague that has made fandom worse. I should make a thread about it because it's a different issue all together that also affects the fujos, BL, and fandom in general
No.5284
>>5280Maybe a good idea it's a broad topic. What puzzles me is why it is so much more common now compared to the past. Nobody had an issue with not being exactly represented. You had women watching media with male MC (and not for shipping), young people enjoying old MCs and all of that but now suddenly the MC HAS to be literally (you). If you are trans they have to be trans too, not even the gender you identify as, if you are over-weighted the MC has to be too, the heritage, the mental illness the quirks everything has to be an exact copy.
It's why we're getting so many fucking annoying zoomer MC with ADHD, memespeak and addiction to trends in the west and so many otaku MC (oh how much I hate that trope) in anime. Even female MCs are often otaku now and all spergy and annoying. I don't even WANT to be represented. I don't desire yaoi addicted feMCs I rather want a cool or hot MC or a good story regardless of age and gender of the MC.
I wonder if it's related to socmedia or if fiction is simply pandering a whole different group now.
No.5354
>>5284Due to current events I'm seeing a bunch of the american aidens on social media now pretending like Trump is going to send death squads to their house and I've been thinking that the political climate since 2016 has been making people push for representation harder to justify their own existence.
No.5382
>>5354Living in their heads rent-free lol. Big business (including Big Pharma) supports Trump, so there is no way he'd clamp down on tranny medicalisation.
No.5849
>>5848>posted 4 years agoAnd there's still been zero pandering to these freaks kekek.
No.5850
>>5849that thread still gets updated and still almost no material for some mysterious reason
No.5853
>>5851the absolute state of "fujoshi"
No.5857
>>5851You can't sit with us, Aiden
No.5858
>>5851I think the explicit M/M tag on Ao3 being like 25% boypussy has given them false expectations for a realistic number of niche-in-a-niche things like this. They'd have better luck finding rep in indie lit/zines by LGBT people. It seems mean to say, but from what I've observed weeb trans men are so largely disconnected from the rest of the LGBT pool that they come off as painfully sheltered.
No.5861
There should be a fourth term after het, yuri and yaoi for these people. I don't even care if a trans-whatever writes a fic as long as it's m/m. The whole issue is that they aren't writing m/m and I never understood why, when the WHOLE thing about transness is that very idea/feeling that you are the opposite gender.
If I identify as gay male then I write and enjoy male/male. Like how the fuck can it be anything else? So they claim to be trans but literally say themselves that they are NOT men? Because if they were they would just draw men. How come that cis fujos have no issue relating to and writing men but trannies can't?
No.5867
>>5861>There should be a fourth term after het, yuri and yaoiI wish we had this type of categorization too, at least 4ch tries to excise that type of stuff to other boards. It'll never happen in woke spaces though because excluding trans/cuntboy shit from M/M implies they're not really men which is trannyphobic. Since we'll never get that I'd prefer mandated autistic tagging like what danbooru/R34 has so I don't have to run into untagged crap at least.
No.5888
>>5861>How come that cis fujos have no issue relating to and writing men but trannies can't?Because most cis fujos (I hate having to use cis) are, hopefully for the most part, not self-inserting.
Cuntboy/transman trash is absolutely 100% self-insertion from the author's part. Like, it's not even like how coomers draw futanari anymore like "girl with dick is hot", aidens NEED the justification of "UHM this is not sexualized at all I just want more trans rep ok!!!!" and all they do is talk about "man pussy" "oh I need his pussy violated". You're just as fetishistic as the opposite spectrum but need to clad it in morality for whatever reason, why?
No.5894
>>5888Aidens are like worst of both fujos and yumes. Need to self-insert as the guy so you LARP as a man plus with the constant pussy boy posts. I'm sick of untagged trans!characters in fics and the trooned character acting like a OOC obvious stand-in for the author
No.5896
>>5867Do Yuri fans have to deal with penis girls? Somehow, I doubt it.
No.5898
>>5896Trons have invaded yuri spaces but they don't create anything usually
No.5899
>>5896Yes, the ratio there is worse than what fujos have to deal with tbh.
No.5900
>>5896Like
>>5899 said
Futa and dickgirls have been all over yuri doujins since forever, the only difference is it wasn't MtFs making it. If anything the boypussy craze is only just now catching up to the dominance that futashit has on yuri.
But just on Ao3, I have seen dickgirl stuff for F/F pairings. How much you'll see depends on how popular the canon is with men. I think it's still less common than cuntboys on there.
No.5901
>>5898That's an absolute lie Futanari has been established for decades far longer than cuntboy has and it's a huge debate on site like danbooru and exhentai if that stuff should be in yuri or not. My understanding though is Futa stuff is almost exclusively pornographic, I'm not a yuri fan but I've never seen futa stories that aren't just porno doujins.
>>5900The real question is why people on A03 don't use "Other" more often. It'd make it easier for them to find alt-relationship stuff and would make it easier for the rest to filter. I've actually never been spooked by a cuntboy fic in the wild since in my fandoms at least people do tag it. But it'd be nicer if when I sorted m/m I actually got it without the extra step to filter "trans."
No.5902
>>5901>The real question is why people on A03 don't use "Other" more oftenIn practice I think this only gets used for genderless characters and monsters. Unless they introduced an actual TransM/CisM category I don't think anyone would stop using M/M.
No.5971
aethy implosion has been fascinating. hordes piling onto nazi bar fediverse instances without realizing somehow (nobody there can read ofc) and you can't even point out that the root problem is. men. because every ayden in proximity will think you're talking about them & they will never see that they have nothing in common with said lolichuds, no matter how much porn they consume. Can someone save us fucking fujoshi
No.5979
>>5971>can't even point out that the root problem is. men.It's sad how the humble fujoshi and cvnnycrvsader1488 are exactly the same in the eyes of most normalfriends.
>>5978Nah she just posted without much context. Aethy was fediverse instance that hosted whatever weird shit you wanted and decided to shutter ahead of time instead of contend with whatever Trump would bring them (
https://aethy.com/@News/113561239227823283). I don't lurk enough over there to know exactly what other hosts they are jumping to (baraag mostly) and why they are nazi bars, but if I had to guess it's because of the circular nature of the western lolicon/nazi Venn diagram.
No.6176
>>5979Never heard of Aethy. Loli/shota are still legal in the US and Trump's presence/absence won't change it.
No.6228
Do the transifications nonnas talk about here actual involve trans "lore" or do you just mean characters having a vagina hidden under their dick for fetish reasons?
I casually experience the latter, even in Japanese fics, but never the first. Meaning I might read porn of my men and during the sex scene the story suddenly hints that the bottom is a hermaphrodite. It never plays a role outside of it and neither did they cut off their tits nor are they trans and they have functioning dicks as well.
I strangely only know this subtype but never saw a fic or fanart that actually made someone trans AKA a former woman or a guy without dick.
No.6229
>>6228In my experience, 99% of the time it's not even a vagina hiding under a dick it's just PIV and that's it. I've only once read a fic where the character mentioned taking testerone
the troonshit was untagged and even had cockwarming in reference to the bottom in the tags when it was just an enlarged clit so to this day I still hope the author kills herself. No.6230
>>6228Back when I first discovered fanfiction and used ffn, I would come across the "surprise hermaphrodite" stuff. I haven't seen that in forever though. Now I only come across just straight up PIV. Even excluding a bunch of trans tags, I'll somehow miss the "[Character Name]'s Genitals referred to with AFAB terms" or "[Character Name] has a vagina" tags or even just come across untagged PIV with no indication that it's basically het with male pronouns. And that's just fanfiction. I've unfortunately seen actual tit chop fanart before without warning.
No.6233
>>6229>so to this day I still hope the author kills herself.Dangerously based. Praying for it to happen too
No.6235
>>6230Yeah I also know it since my first days of fanfiction in like 2000. It was always a thing. Rare, but it existed. Asia probably still keeps it when they are into that. It doesn't always appear, not even within the other fics of the same writer, only casually. It's probably different from the trans shit even though both might have the same root.
Since it's rare and always only mentioned on the side, sometimes even just hinted, it never bothered me too much but I wouldn't be able to ignore actual trans talk or PiV, especially if one of the dudes doesn't even have a dick. This is actually what surprises me. The herm thing is, I believe, a kink and done to avoid the hassle with the lubrication and all that, but none of this would justify the detaching of the dick? So this part is honestly new and weird.
Again I didn't encounter it yet but it's so fucking weird reading of your fav who might be some scarred terrorist dude and then the sex scene describes how he doesn't have a dick.
Maybe I am wrong, but this sounds to me like it's not even tranny shit but just outright het. I would imagine that if I was a tranny I would imagine transmen as "perfect" so either actual men or men that are basically herms. Real TIFs have no dicks because our medicine isn't advanced enough to make dicks. But that shouldn't influence fantasy.
This makes me wonder if the writers even consider themselves trans or it's just thinly veiled het porn but the latter makes no sense either since you have enough actual het pairings for that. But if it was a kink I would also rather expect herm than missing dicks. Anyway it's a bit puzzling to me, actually even way stranger than the ages old surprise herm.
No.6239
>>6228I don't read a lot of porn so I don't really come across it myself, but lately "lore" is what's bothered me. To be honest it started back in around 2014, some fandoms I was in had a few users posting AUs where X was born a girl and self harms but started dressing as a boy and felt better and now they're a man. I thought it was stupid because the character already had a backstory and at no point has their gender been called into question or made them self conscious. We even saw him naked a few times and while he had a glowstick between the legs it was certainly a stick.
Flash forward ten years, now I'm into fandoms for ongoing series where we haven't had all the backstory info on characters, but we've had a fair amount. People start posting "headcanons" about characters being trans and wanting to transition, but again, they throw out all the backstory elements that are crucial to the character's personality and write their own humdrum soap opera about how sad being trans is and how their best friend helps them realize their dream of being the other gender even though everyone else hates them for it. They don't even really go into any specific details of who or how they're hated, they don't use the elements in canon to elevate the concept even though there's easy fodder for it (eg. being sorted into gendered groups at school). It's so nothing, it doesn't feel like content about the character in question at all. I'm honestly more pissed off that they aren't making something of it than the fact they want the character to be trans.
It's just that it seems to happen to way time and time again. No real thought put into the process just cookiecutter boohoo being trans is so hard and everyone hates me I wish I was another gender. Do something character relevant ffs! Don't copypaste the same story on everyone, talk about how being trans affects THIS character compared to any others. Don't remove them from their setting and context, don't cut off all their canon connections and isolate them. Write them as them even if you want to make them trans.
No.6240
>>6239*seems to happen that way
Also this type of fanwork feels to me like blatant fetishization. They don't care about trans being normalized or expressing a range of trans identities, they just want the misery porn of oppression and to make erotica about scarring and mismatched genitals. Focusing the entire story around transness and removing all other concerns in a character's life is shitting on real trans people who have actual lives with many interests and problems. It's making them less and less like trans people and more like a hollow vessel to congratulate themselves over.
No.6241
>>6228>never saw a fic or fanart that actually made someone trans AKA a former woman or a guy without dick.Damn, you must be in an extremely obscure fandom then. Because this is what most transfication is like.
And yes, there's far too many fics I've seen that come up with trans "lore". That's my main issue with trannyshit, not even the vaginas. I'm used to cuntboy porn, I've seen a fair share of japanese cuntboy stuff, it's basically a fetish. Characters that are dragons or fish usually have a "slit" (pussy) so it's treated simply as cuntboy fetish, but never about them uwu I wish I was a woman *cuts wrists*
Sometimes in western fic is 'subtle' shit like "(Character) removed his binder", "(Character) has not had their period yet" and shit like that is obviously linking to trans shit. It's so annoying.
And like
>>6239 has pointed out, it's all self-fetishization. It's authors projecting the fact they are trans. 90% or hell even 99% of trans fics are always made by a TIF
No.6246
I wonder if I'm save from that stuff because I mostly latch onto historical manga. History itself works as deterrent against zoomers and meme tards since they will assume it's dry and it's usually series centered around adult men and gore or politics which these people avoid on principle. It would also be hard to explain gender change in 1345.
No.6247
>>6246It really depends on the popularity of the era. Like the French Revolution and American Revolution are popular due to the musicals, which is where we get Miku Binder Thomas Jefferson from. And I’m pretty sure the woman in OP pic husbandos Robespierre. But if you’re into even slightly more obscure history then yeah you probably won’t run into trannies.
No.6261
>>6247A ton of young TIFs are obsessed with Ancient Greece or Victorian Britain (due to the Percy Jackson series and Black Butler), I hope they don't discover my favorite eras.
No.6262
>>6246No, you're not :(
Source: Am history nerd. A pooner currently writes a very popular WWI comic, and TIFs are obsessed with Victorian & Edwardian things. The historical mangas that I enjoy are set in those eras. They've also colonized the vintage shoujo demographic, which has historical mangas.
Do share if you know historial mangas that are free from the wrath of Aiden.
No.6339
>>6262Honestly none of the history manga I like have tranny fans that I know of, but I am not a fan of victorian age stories.
I like the era itself but the stories are usually otome or otomelike so I avoid them like the plague, the only exception are some horror VNs and Emma which was IMO genuinely good, but not BL adjacent or sausage fest. From the big(ger) ones neither does Golden Kamuy (which is popular as hell) have any tranny fans nor Elusive Samurai, Orb, Kenshin or Vinland Saga and the rest like Historie, Tekketsu Küche, Plinivs and such are too niche to have many fans to begin with, though Peleliu might get some when the anime airs (but the artstyle is chibi).
I have no idea about western stuff. The only western comics and books about historical eras I know and like are old as shit or extremely niche so they have no tranny fans since they have no active fanbase to begin with.
No.6351
>>6339>Golden Kamuy has no tranny fansOh how I wish that were true
No.6352
>>6339>Golden Kamuy and Vinland Saga have no tranny fansI wish to live in your bubble Nona
No.6353
>Playing Killer Chat!
>Serial killer chatroom VN
>2 boys and 2 girls dating options
>Do Ronin's first
>Trans bombshell 2 and a half hours into route
>Delete game
What a waste of time.
No.6354
>>6353Just googled it, a shame because I like Ronin's design. Would have loved that character as both, a girl or boy. Both would have been good in my book, just not trans. What a waste. Girl designs are always so generic it would have been fine to just let her stay a girl without changing the design IMO and we barely get emo boys anymore and it looks good so a boy would have been great too.
I am not even political, I just don't like trans characters because I generally don't like characters that care much about gender shit even if they're cis and trans characters are all about that. Also no tits and small tits are both great but cut-off tits are a turn off to me.
No.6356
>>6355>>6354>>6353what a waste of a cute design, the vn she's in sounds fairly interesting too, she's have made a cute boy or reverse trap
>Also no tits and small tits are both great but cut-off tits are a turn off to me.you get it nonny, if she couldn't be a cute emo boy let her be a flat butch at least
No.6357
>>6356>>6354Her design is cool, that bracelet isn't visible at all in game, but even if it was I don't think I would have put two and two together. I'm more just frustrated it wasn't frontloaded and disclosed since I would have skipped the game or route since it's clearly not for me. Instead I feel cheated. "He" was supposed to be the psycho serial killer route and the other male option was a vigilante hunting killers down. I probably would have liked both routes but now I'll never know.
>>6356It's got better presentation than most ENVNs and nails the UI of a chatroom like Slack or Discord. The theming is why I picked it up and the concept of accidentally stumbling upon a ring of serial killers online is still a strong concept. Some of the writing id diagetically cringe since it's mostly relayed through chat but imo it was nice to have and English VN that wasn't a fucking meta parody.
Honestly should have expected tranny shit this is what I get for straying from Japanese VNs.
No.6358
>>6353This game is so embarrassing. Cute character designs, but I couldn't suspend my disbelief that these killers all acted like terminally online Discord zoomers, and they were so reckless with their true identities? Like, you're gonna hop on video call within a month of meeting someone? In the Serial Killer Server? When I could be a cop? And you're going to talk about your influencer career? That has your face attached to it? In the Serial Killer Server?
I didn't even get to Ronin's route, so it's good to know I didn't miss much kek.
No.6359
>>6357>Honestly should have expected tranny shit this is what I get for straying from Japanese VNs.Yeah, I mentioned this in another thread before but this is exactly why I don't want to play english original VNs. The ones aimed at gay men probably wouldn't have this but they have overly muscled guys that I'm not into and the games with a prettier artstyle can pull this genderspecial bait and switch onto you.
No.6364
>>6360I actually tried Xiangcao Bulei yu Meigui Guaidao and had to refund it since it was basically machine translated can't believe it's being sold on Steam. There have been almost no good VNs this year imo.
No.6365
>>6364Why does Steam allow it?