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 No.4[Reply]

Discuss and reminisce about the legendary shipping wars that happened in your time as a Fujo.
Examples:
>FrUK vs. USUK
>Makoharu vs. Rinharu
>Klance vs. Sheith
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 No.7407

>>7406
All of what I've seen lately has been in the same vein–het or f/f people fruitlessly trying to quash m/m through shame. The most amusing instance of this has been people acting like Sephiroth/Cloud is some new shit only freaks like and not a nearly thirty year old fujo staple. It's about as old as Spock/Kirk was when I first started getting into fandom!

 No.7408

>>7402
I can only think of cases where a gay pairing is disliked by people who ship one of the guys with a female character. On top of my head, I sometimes see JJK fans on my tl on twitter who ship either Gojo/Geto or Geto/Gojo arguing with Gojo/Utahime shippers because these ones like to start shit with them, allegedly at least. The people involved are mostly female fans, but sometimes I see male shonentards arguing that the main character of their favorite series has to end with the "heroine" of the series, so they were shitting all over bakudeku fans even more than usual because of the epilogue, but on the other hand they've been coping hardcore over JJK so they're delusional and saying things about how Megumi/Hana or Yuji/literal who from his class in middle school are canon. There's also whatever happened with the second season of Arcane but I have no context since I haven't watched the show, but it's another case of a gay pairing and a straight pairing involving the same guy so fans are arguing. I really can't think of recent gay ship wars.

 No.7410

>>7402
I expected my fandom to turn into a ship war after half of our ship got NTR'ed by a third man who is now together with the other half but I guess we're all just dirty fujos so we ended up shipping both at the same time, making threesomes or focus on one of the two ships but enjoy art with the respective other regardless.

High chance I wouldn't notice if there is a ship war anywhere, though. Believe it or not, I MISSED the Voltron ship war back then and only know it from complaints people have made years later, even though I was active in those years. Was obsessed with a game related ship and didn't notice anything else.


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 No.541[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Aydens are currently the biggest internal cancer in BL spaces, outsiders hate us that's a given but Aydens participate and "contribute" to our fandoms, with pussyboys, male characters with mastectomy scars and PIV sex between characters that are biological males and ruin it
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 No.7337

>>7336
The okama to transbian headcanon phenomenon is amusing because most of the time in practice, making a character the okama trope is basically gay-coding. Not the delusional shit like "zomg this character has this flag's color scheme" but the creator's way of saying this character is a full blown fag. It's the one time fandombrained teens genuinely get something that can be considered queer-coding which they seem to love so much, but reject it in this case anyway. The Arashi lesbian shit always makes me laugh because outside of yume-esque lines, all he talks about is men.

 No.7338

>>7336
It's technically the same IMO. It's just gender-roles.
The difference is how transness is handled in the west. An okama or any other man that refers to himself as woman is aware of his biological sex and won't force others to refer to him as woman. He might say "A lady like me" or something, but doesn't react if you refer to him as man because he knows he is one.
That aside it's situational, as you said. Anime characters are weirder. So an okama might even refer to himself as lady in a job interview, but that's because they're anime characters.

Transness is basically the same, a person that LARPs or feels like the opposite gender and/or enjoys referring themselves as such. The difference is that they try to deny their (original) gender and force others to use their favorite pronouns on them. This is the central problem with trans IMO. For many you cannot even tell they're trans because they don't look or act like it, so you can't know their pronouns or will feel stupid using them.

So I think that while trans and certain subtypes of okama and drags are pretty much the same the conflict arises from the misunderstanding of the social context they are embedded in. Because nobody else from their respective series is usually referring to them as women. It's more of a roleplay. I even enjoy it, I sometimes like okama. But it lacks the political aspect and seriousness of western transness.

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There was this Russian feminist artist who was literally arrested by the state for "creating pornography" with art like this, she was going to be sentenced to six years in a russian prison, now Russian prison(even a women's prison) are beyond awful from what I've read, she only managed to be acquitted thanks to some international pressure but after that, this woman who was a prominent Theater Director basically choose to disappear, not working anything that could ever "offend" the goverment and she probably is going to live the rest of her life in fear for what might happen, this is the case for everyone in these authoritarian states and it's only getting worse
https://crd.org/2020/03/10/russian-feminist-activist-and-artist-risks-six-years-in-prison-over-social-media-posts/


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 No.8[Reply]

why do people always claim fujoshi hate female characters? most of the fujos i hang/hung with had tons of female favorites and only ever despised women that didn't do anything (orihime of bleach, for example).

i don't get the whole yumejo vs. fujo war either, is that just a psyop by moids?
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 No.7106

>>7085
Those sorts of things ought to apply only to live action dramas. For example if my disability were to be included in a TV show that the general public might watch I'd want it to be represented fairly and not total bullshit. That to me would be representation and that would be something that matters to my daily life. Something like a soap drama that informs and educates in a space where topical subjects are expected.

I've found a character in an isekai who sounds like they had the same disease as me before isekaiing, but it's not disclosed and it's not made a huge deal about. It just informs his preferences when he gets to eat whatever he wants. I found his preferences in tea and desire to eat cake relatable, but his past issues remain understated and his new habits have a broader appeal. 70% of the series is magic, sword fights, and comical misunderstandings, 30% is eating too much cake and roast duck. That's a sensible balance and provides satisfactory levels of wish fulfillment and adventure. What people get wrong is tipping a bucket of ~r e p r e s e n t a t i o n~ on an OC and skewing the rest of the story because of that. It's missing the bigger picture.

 No.7107

>>6953
I really don't understand how people could hate characters just because of their gender. It's the same thing I feel towards yuri fans who hate all male characters. I usually only hate characters if they do terrible things to the protag or are annoying as fuck. Other than that, I'm usually neutral towards most characters. I'm a huge fujo, but I can still like characters outside of the context of shipping.

 No.7109

>>7107
>I'm a huge fujo, but I can still like characters outside of the context of shipping.
Same. I wouldn't be able to enjoy fiction otherwise. The dudes I am into are almost always side characters or antagonists. It seem to be a common thing though to solely read or watch a series for a single character. But I wasn't aware of this until a few years ago. I even see fujos sometimes drop a series when the fav stopped appearing even if the pairing isn't cancelled and the other half of the ship still getting screentime. I cannot even like pairings if I don't like both characters individually too.


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 No.5538[Reply]

Self-inserting has always been a thing, however, more than ever has it not taken in an almost parasitic and viral infestation in general fandom and the BL scene.

Whether it's the need to make gay ships het by adding a vagina/transing, or blatantly stating they see non-insert ships as cucking, let's talk about self-inserting and how bad it's gotten.
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 No.6325

>>6236
>Anyway it was toxic and they never talked about their ships because everybody ships the husbando with someone else (themselves) so they just browsed tumblr to find posts to get angry about and once in a week they booted one of their own because they got into a fight.
>One thing I noticed (this isn't about yume but mass effect tumblr yumes) was that all of them were married NEETs living in the apartment of their husbands. They always hated on men, called them shit and talked about how women don't need them and just two minutes later they mentioned how their husband bought them some overpriced nerd shit of their husbando again and cooked food for them.
Kek this genuinely sounds like most posters on Lolcow to a T.

 No.6332

>>6297
I just can't stand dishonesty in general and neither people that act like princesses so I was happy to leave that fandom behind. They have no honor IMO because they do what they pretend to hate.
They are for some reason obsessed about being independent while being simultaneously incapable of going to the grocery store so a man does it for them them and buys their food like a parent does for their toddler. I just believe that their annoying attitude stems from that exact cognitive dissonance and they project their hatred onto others, especially women with a normal lifestyle.

I have no idea where this mindset comes from so I headcanon that these people stem from some fundamentalist shithole towns or got brainwashed by their parents. None of the women I know personally were ever afraid or in need of men and most are pretty independent in general, even the ones that are married. It's like a foreign culture to me. I never met a woman who was afraid of leaving the apartment at night or was too insecure to go to the supermarket and it actually reminds of the males of my own country's altchan which is one of the cringiest places on earth and full of grown ass dudes who are too afraid to face the pizza supplier.
To me it reeks of infantilization of girls and must therefore come from the parents and environment. And they are proud of it which rubs me the wrong way and I don't want to be associated with this.

 No.7096

Self-insertion has severely damaged fandom. I don't know what can be done to change the course of it. Everyone asks "What about me?" when looking at characters when you should be looking at the media and the characters for who and what they are. It's ridiculous how this has caused the deluge of tranny fics and art all in the guise of "representation"


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 No.5288[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.

Previous Thread
>>861
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 No.6861

>>6822
Japanese artists tend to be paranoid about their privacy/anonymity and dissemination of their work. We all know that they sperg out about reposting art and fujos probably more so because they’re used to getting hate for being fujo/female otaku. Japanese artists will usually dedicate an account to one fandom /pairing/character and abandon the account or priv/delete when they lose interest to minimise their digital trail and make it harder to trace back to an actual person. They also act paranoid about foreigners, one time a gonkillu artist blew up and started getting harassed by American shounentards telling her to kill herself and she went private, so I kind of understand it, but it’s annoying RIP to all the good art lost thanks to schizos

 No.6866

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>>6822

 No.6947

>>6859
No he's the JP equivalent of the gay stereotypical flamboyant man who uses female pronouns to refer to himself. I think the EN wiki is wishy-washy on him but there is no doubt he's just supposed to be gay.


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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.6718

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>>6698
I'm not saying that's what they are like in canon, but that's how a section of shippers perceive them and If you go through the #obikin tag, a good chunk of the posts will be related to turning obi-wan into a "milf"

 No.6720

>>6718
Never post boobi-wan kanobi again please.

 No.6721

>>6720
lol, great name.

>>6718
Absolutely bizarre fan perception. I don't mind huge pecs like the last one, but the moobs are bit much.


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 No.3972[Reply]

For discussing networking and general observation on places like tumblr, twitter, bobaboard, etc.

>How is the current fandom climate on your platform?
>Tips for surviving the platform and making network with other fujos?
>Current feelings on social media/forums/discords?
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 No.6669

>>6667
>>6666
Thank you, this is really useful. Also, kiriban get. How do I write 'Anti anti' and 'anti AI' in JP? Like, what is the common term?

 No.6670

>>6669
>Anti anti
I doubt you'd need this, proship/anti stuff doesn't really exist on JP side so they'd probably assume you're not an anti in the first place if you're chill. For AI I've seen JP users put "No AI" or AI with the X/stop emoji

 No.6675

>>6669
Personally I used the stop emoji before these things. Namely because I saw others doing it lol.
Maybe anti isn't needed as >>6670 says but don't speak Japanese well so I also use English and I made the experience that a few fans grew vary of me when they found me but calmed down and followed after they learned that I accept all form of shippings in fanart. I later added the sign in the bio just to be sure, since some of them made had experiences with antis it seems. But if you only post in JP to begin with you don't need it. But add the fujo sign.
Technically saying that you're fujo should already include that you are against anti.


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 No.429[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I believe we need containment thread for NOTP posting.
Post any NOTP that you fucking hate the reason can be anything canon, position, fans, etc. be petty as you want.
feel free to bash them or venting about it.
Dont visit this thread if you cant stand seeing your favorite ship get dunked.
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 No.6636

>>6635
>Bankotsuo
My bad. Been years and my memory of spelling is mostly from bad translations and middle school memories.

 No.6639

>>6586
I think Wrio/Lyney is interesting and pretty hot. It's good for hatesex at least.

 No.6643

>>6639
>Wrio/Lyney
It had no business to be so intense I almost hated Wrio until reveal, damn that thug enjoyed mind torturing Lyney
Fontaine story loves punching three legged pups like Furina and him, there’s Navia suffering too but idc


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 No.4731[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.
Old thread >>89
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 No.6253

>>6251
You didn't answer my actual point, but oh well. I've already accepted there isn't a good term for the archetype I enjoy. And with that we're at Bumplimit and need a new thread.

 No.6254

>>6250
in my life i saw more on the left side the yuri community than the yaoi one lol and usually people who bring up "canon this and that" are a) haters of the ship or the manga/anime b) chuds bothered by gay fanart

 No.6256

>>6249
Where is the megane option?


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 No.5554[Reply]

How did you become a fujoshi?

Last thread: https://fujochan.org/bl/res/102.html
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 No.6182

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I started getting into comics and Manga when I was about 10-11, starting off with series our library had like Pokemon adventures, Ranma ½, stray volumes of shounen like Bleach and Onepiece, etc. It gave me a real love for Manga as a medium. I was bound to what was physically there since I didn’t have unrestricted internet access until I was 14. But once I did, I heard about all the pirating sites like KissManga, MangaFox, etc. and went to check them out since I had developed such a strong love for Manga. I had a diverse taste genre wise and would always browse the genre section to find a series with a plot I would be interested in. There I saw it… The Yaoi section. I was intrigued as to what it was. I clicked on it and had a metaphorical, spiritual nosebleed… And from then on I would read as much BL as I could get my hands on, from the classics like Junjou Romantica and Loveless to random one shots I’ll never remember again. I was really into Mei Sakuraga (pic rel) and CJ Michalski’s works for some reason lol. The rest is history…

Because of this, I’m a rare breed (at least from what I've seen on FC) that prefers canon BL properties and pairings and doesn’t ship much apart from my small handful of pet ships (and when I do it’s usually some unofficial pairing of side characters from said BL works lmao)

 No.6197

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I was shipping before I knew what it was. The first "yaoi" I ever saw was fanart in Animerica (which I actually tracked down for that nostalgia thread that got lost in the raid) and tripped over fanfiction shortly afterward. It's funny how ravenous for it I was back then, I multishipped like crazy and would try anything once. Now I'm super specific about ships and will block over petty shit like NOTPs (￣ヘ￣)

As for original BL, the first one I ever bought was Eerie Queerie (jp: Ghost!). I don't remember a damn thing about it other than the mild titillation of having it physically in my house.

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Some youtubers I liked when I was a preteen were compared to Makoharu from Free! which made me check out the anime and resulted in me shifting fixation to sports anime (and the ships). Later on, I had this app named Mangarock on my phone that had a massive library of scanlated manga and "yaoi" was a genre there, which I checked out of curiosity. In the present, much like OP, I am not into RPS at all and Mangarock is a shell of its former self that does not host scanlations anymore.


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