/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>4157
We are on episode 4. We will start watching episode 4 next time, so if you could cover episodes 1-3 that would be great!

Zeta is the follow up to 0079 so you'll be in good hands!

0083 is a good show, despite asspullery at the end. The remaster looks great too.

>>5015
>It already happened that well hinted/pandered ships were erased and nobody here was shipping them because the official TL simply ungayed their dialogues and I believe that it wasn't even because of a homophobic translator but simply a BAD translator.
Do you have examples? I can't think of any but I English isn't my first language so I tend to only check English translations if there aren't any in my mother tongue.

>>5015
>How is it possible that out of all these people they manage to fish out the few memetastic idiots respectively why is it only them applying for these jobs?
Blame Crunchyroll, they basically have a monopoly on Anime distributions in America and they work on the cheap, so they refuse to work with with union voice actors and dub directors and instead hire people from the Internet who who can afford to treat this like a youtube parody series instead of a job, kyle mccarley(a voice actor) talks about this and this method basically set a precedent for other companies as well

>>1327
Damn, I know this was posted 2 years ago but this image sums up why I don't like typical seme/uke tropes. My ideal dynamic is for both of them to have dick butterflies *and* stomach butterflies. They're both men so I don't want one dude being like an 'innocent maiden' who doesn't get horny.

>>4758
>If you write a 15k Elmo/Kermit angst fic it's impressive even though it's still just "Crack" and ridiculous.
This reminded me of a 100k Sid/Andy (yes, from Toy Story) fic I read a billion years ago: https://archiveofourown.org/works/617850/chapters/1114701

I vaguely remember this ship being a meme in the early/mid 2010s, kind of a like a proto Max/Bradley (yes, from the Goofy movies).

>>4759
Oh man, I do remember this ship being a thing when garbage man Sid was an easter egg in the third movie however I can't imagine writing a novel length fanfic of it. Good for the author though might check it out.

Can't believe there are over 1000 Toy Story fics and 300+ are m/m. I'd almost say any work for that fandom should be crack but I guess Woody/Buzz has enough canon basis unlike Andy/Sid.

>>1542
>>Did you ever start to ship something as a joke, to then become unironic about the pairing?
Embarrassing to admit but the answer is squidbob

>>4886
I think Horikoshi was planning on pairing Deku and Ochaco together in the end but changed his mind during the series' run and got way into blatantly yurishipping her with the other girl kek. He's been pretty supportive of Deku and Bakugo too. JJK is rumored to be at least partially made by a woman (and "confirmed" as Ken Akamatsu referred to Gege as a woman) so that would explain that. I honestly like that new generation shounen authors don't shy away from same sex relationships, I know people like to be cynical about them just doing it to get their rocks off but I just like that they're being normalized like this.

>>4865
It's also because the 2hus aren't made to be deliberately sexy or sexualizable and MLP even less (despite the fact that the series did pander to bronies every here and there).

>>4873
In a way, yes. This is pretty much what happens to BL ships too in non-BL media as well. The delusion is what keeps the interest going.

>>4886
>Another thing that puts me off of hetero ships is that the canon ones are carried by the woman's feelings 99% of the time.
Yeah this. It makes both characters bad and the romance void. It means that the MC would just fuck every other girl if she felt like this, there is no inherent trait of her that he actually loves or even cares about. He just takes a girl and it will be the one that simps for him the hardest. It's technically an one-sided romance since he just wants a wife to fuck. It also makes it obvious that it's wish fulfillment pandering for coomers.
>Of course the answer to these frustrations is "stop reading/playing media for teenagers" but that's where the shipping brainrot is
Honestly I barely ever even found a book where I felt like shipping anybody. For some reason book characters are almost always unlikeable as fuck to me. Maybe I am too autistic and books are written by normal people and for normal people and I just cannot relate with the characters they identify or depict.

>>4857
nta but Draluc is supposed to be an out of his prime old man, his character wouldn't work if he was young and hot, for a compassion think of those old school BL's where the entire cast had one or two body and facial types but we were expected to believe one character was somehow more beautiful cause he had more sparkles on him

>>4878
Actually as a high vampire Draluc is a young man, he's just emaciated because of his condition.

I'd been avoiding opening this thread because I never like this topic (in the past I always saw it turn into arguments about perceived elitism), but I saw 94 and had to open. Skimming what's been said there's one thing that hasn't been mentioned.

Personally I'm a dynamics shipper, I can't get into a pair unless there's a scenario to build but I'm very adept at pulling something out of any match up. A number of characters I've liked/shipped have been considered ugly by other people I talk to, even ones I'm fairly sure are conventional ikemen. I don't think any characters I've gotten into shipping are actually "ugly." Maybe the fanart beautifies them, but I have this stupid subconscious sense that they can't be ugly if I don't have a certain reaction to their appearance, the repulsion someone else mentioned, and when you like the personality of a character or the jokes around them you easily see their design as just an interesting, positive design. No repulsion at all.

However if I think about characters I do find ugly my brain goes immediately to the kind of yume and shippers who you might call edgelords for their taste. The kind who seem to deliberately pick unpopular characters to make into their online persona, and the kind who are expressly into "problematic" and "dark" things like serial killers and cannibalism. They're not always the same people but there's some crossover, and there's a lot of western titles that end up as figureheads for these fandoms. I wonder if it's because I don't know the characters well that I consider them unappealing, or that the design sense is too far from my usual anime/manga.

But there's always a few where I'm pretty sure they really, really tried to pick a random character to obsess over because he looks like a balding creep. I can't be the only one who thinks it's performative, esp when the personality ends up the same woobified nonsense. I don't think I could ever ship those characters not because they are ugly but because I'm not given enough of who they are in a positive light, that is actually them and not a fan's sanitized "my cutesy pootsy" garbage. As such I agree that we tend to design characters to purpose, and the more an author thinks of a character the more likely their design will haPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>4896
I agree with both points. First of all that the dynamic is the main thing. I cannot think of ANY case where I was ever attracted to a character or ship before getting into their dynamics and personalities. I might maybe (rarely) think "cool design", but that's it. The obsession only starts after I started sympathizing with both of the characters individually and saw the dynamics.

The other thing is that ugliness is very subjective, especially with anime. I saw non-fans calling some of the characters mentioned here (like Draluc, Sadamune, Tsurumi or even Reigen, just as an example) "stupid looking" or "ugly" but none of them are. Thing is that the standard anime design is so doll-like that every skinny or older character or every dude with beard and some actual facial features like a visible bone structure or an uncommon simplistic or "western" artstyle might get called "ugly". I think that fans don't even mean it, they do it for fun or to set them apart from the generic looking dudes.
My point just is that pop culture is focused on k-pop tier idols and anime characters that lots of dudes that would be genuinely handsome IRL are considered ugly by the anime fandom.

Think the only men I love that I would call.. maybe not actually sexy are Tsukishima (I love his design, but before I loved it I considered him ugly lol) due to his weird face and
Harrier Du Bois. But the more anime I watch and games I play the more I associate common pretty guys with blandness. Maybe I am getting older, maybe I just watched so much that getting tired is normal. But most characters aren't expressive enough for me and lack uniqueness. I am happier when the dudes I ship have weird but unique design that makes them special. I ship them and know "this only works with them".

But my biggest problem with most anime is the lack of expression and charisma. Maybe it's a lack of social skill from the author's side, maybe they don't care and solely bank on pretty designs. I don't know, but if all a character does is standing there, throwing a cool line and looking nice I won't ever feel anything for them.

>>4467
Holy shit this just unlocked so many memories for me! I remember playing this game way back in 2014 but I didn't get too far in because of the f2p system and eventually gave up. I'd forgotten all about it! Reading that wiki made me remember that the game did have a comment feature and it was just filled with people fujo-ing out over the twins's interactions. Noone was weirded out by the fact that they were brothers. Good times…

>>4480
>>4467
Having a comment option on a bl appgame sounds so fucking funny lol, petition to implement this for all blvns

https://youtu.be/7kNt5P7-zKo?si=Ms4DjTzsi6gnVncs
Please tell me someone else remembers this shit, the way this abridged series literally shaped my humour for the worse during my formative years lmao, every other day shit from this series just runs through my head and I have literally no one I can explain it to, I remember being distraught when the whole series was removed from YouTube, the first part about junjou egoist seems to be actual lost media as though the other parts have been salvaged that one is no where to be found

>>4813
i’ve seen those statistics too and it was oddly validating to see the proof because i always felt like there was So Fucking Much but never bothered to do the math. even aside from obi-wan, there’s a wild amount of lactation in star wars fics. how is it so prevalent in that fandom specifically??

>>4762
I have never seen this. I didn't even know it was a thing until I read your post now. At best I see Japanese fans linking Privatter fics.

>>4817
There are 250 Obi-wan fics that come up with a search of "Lactation." Not sure why though seems like a random choice for male lactation. They aren't even memey shitpost most are over 5k words. >>4817

I don't trust opening streaming sites on my phone so I torrent stuff on it. I can move the file to my PC later. It's been a while since there was anything I was that excited to watch when it came out though.

>>4823
honesty i’ve never figured out exactly how dangerous certain sites are on mobile. i went through high school using shitty kissanime clones on my phone all the time and never once caught a virus, at least not to my knowledge. but ofc i try not to risk it so much nowadays.

>>4826
My brain just assumes I'll get loaded with dubious cookies and shit. I have tracking blocked, ublock origin, script blockers and so on on my phone browser, but I still feel like "why not just grab the file directly in the cleanest manner and not root around finding somewhere".

>>4724
Buddhist clergy members are supposed to take a vow of celibacy, but I don't think a Japanese author would make much angst about it if they have such a history with prostitutes. But yeah Taoism and Shintoism would be pretty boring in terms of angst. If you really wanted angst and taboo, Islam would be the choice, but I think their fashion is ugly compared to Catholic Priests.

>>4726
Which is a shame because Middle Eastern style clothes that aren't rooted in religion are quite sexy imo

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