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 No.13[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

as a counterpart to the hate thread. sperg about things you love.
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 No.5463

>>5460
Nier Automata was the nail in the coffin for comfy all day 500 cap Drakengard/Nier threads. Despite liking the game I almost wish I could delete it Nier ending D style and undo the damage it did to what I consider the "real" fandom.

I wish they adapted the Drama CD story into the remake like they did some of the Grimoire Nier content. There's Tyrann/Emil brainworms in there.

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>>5460
>>5457
>>5453
God the drama about Drakengard with the way random purity culture is would be actual chaos, the way the original was still censored is disheartening but I suppose it is better than getting fully butchered, sad there's not much modern discussion about it
I remember suffering through drakengard when I was much younger and not understanding any of the themes and ended up reading a walkthrough for it instead, I remember being shocked about Leonard's secret since with the exception of that one scene where he gulps when Seere hugs him there's really nothing to indicate this
>lmao the leonard on fujochan jumpscare
He's the pinnacle of toxic yaoi whether he wants to be or not

 No.5489

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I am, and always was, a massive fan of the "every antagonist/villain underling is gay for their boss" trope. I'm fine if it's only the primary side kick too, like how Pucci acts all gay for DIO, but give plus points if a story hints it for multiple underlings or all of them.
If every damn comic or manga that isn't BL has to hint a potential hetero harem for the MC it's only fair that the antagonist gets his own gay version of it.



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 No.4327[Reply]

A few hours ago, Aniwave (9anime) and Anix were shut down, it seems like it was hit by a DMCA claim. These were big sites that hosted thousands of different animes. Companies seem to be going hard against piracy sites and it makes me wonder if they'll go for manga next.
Do you use piracy or do you prefer paid services? Do you think the potential death of easily accessible piracy will be a big issue? Is the solution teaching others to torrent?

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/ace-goes-after-fmovies-sister-site-successors-240824/
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 No.5428

>>4815
>>5423
I download a shitton of stuff everyday since.. 2002? or whatever and never used a VPN. Especially if it's anime stuff there is a 0 chance that anybody will ever give a shit.
They can't even do shit. 2004 or so I got a single letter from a attorney trying and failing to scare me because I downloaded actual new games so he told me I should pay a few thousands or will be sued. I googled it, google said it's a legally gray area, threw the letter into the trash bin and he never fucking replied.

I don't get this modern fear of piracy. Nobody gives a shit if you download subbed anime or manga or anything like that and most of the attorneys that tried to get you if you downloaded cinema shit are long since gone since they usually seeded themselves to even get the IPs, making them participate in the alleged crime.

Anyway I will never pay for a VPN.

 No.5430

>>5428
Only thing I got nabbed for was torrenting a recent Hollywood release one time. You don't even need a VPN for anime shit.

 No.5436

>>5428
>Anyway I will never pay for a VPN.
You don't need to. There are plenty of free ones, like Proton.
>the good old days when ban evasion on 4chan with VPNgate https://www.vpngate.net was easy



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 No.8[Reply]

why do people always claim fujoshi hate female characters? most of the fujos i hang/hung with had tons of female favorites and only ever despised women that didn't do anything (orihime of bleach, for example).

i don't get the whole yumejo vs. fujo war either, is that just a psyop by moids?
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 No.5432

>>5420
They deleted the scene confirming that he was alive so now all the dudebros do is get smug about how he's dead. It's hard to not resent the company because they never continued Royal and keep Akechi in this limbo so his haters can get the last laugh. If men liked him, like they like Adachi, this wouldn't be the case. It made any gains from Royal feel hollow when the dudebros can still gloat about how he can never appear in anything again so his fans can never be happy.

 No.5433

>>5432
>dudebros can still gloat about how he can never appear in anything again so his fans can never be happy.
Dudebros only ever care about canon when it cucks a popular m/m ship. It's pure copium. Fujos have 100s of hours of post-game content on pixiv and Ao3. We always win.

 No.5440

>>5432
Idk, to me it doesn't matter because it's clear what the intention of the writers was. And Akechi is actually alive if you get the proper ending in the post-credit scene. All the coomer waifufags saying it's somehow a hallucination are coping hard, it's clear that the scene meant that Akechi was able to escape death. That's his entire theme too, it's tied to his personas, specifically Hereward, but I don't expect dudebros to read anything beside hentais of their waifus.
They can seethe all they want, but at the end of the day fujos got game content that further developed the character that was already heavily plot relevant in the original game, they made it canonical that the one desire of the protagonist during the third semester was to bring him back to life (but he wasn't dead to begin with), we got sexually charged lines while he is in the team (also a big win), him laying down with Joker in the opening movie, or them being together in the Maruki "bad ending" cards (fun fact, in the very last one Joker and Akechi are the only ones looking at the camera). They even put more effort in their special attack together with shit like "two sides, same coin", the whole game is full of intentional parallels between Joker and Akechi alone but of course the coomers can't pick them up. And what do they get? Some flat new waifu that didn't fit at all (no matter how hard they tried to spin Kasumi as part of a "Royal trio", nobody fucking sees her as that and the coomers don't even care for her), and some awful female confidants that are irrelevant to the game's story. Basically they've got the side fanfictions, while we got the entire canonical game that they also were forced to play through.
A reminder that Atlus writers managed to make an established coomer cheater character like Vincent into a canonical bisexual with Rin, and he has actual chemistry with him (they also deadname the tranny character lol).



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 No.541[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Aydens are currently the biggest internal cancer in BL spaces, outsiders hate us that's a given but Aydens participate and "contribute" to our fandoms, with pussyboys, male characters with mastectomy scars and PIV sex between characters that are biological males and ruin it
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 No.5284

>>5280
Maybe a good idea it's a broad topic. What puzzles me is why it is so much more common now compared to the past. Nobody had an issue with not being exactly represented. You had women watching media with male MC (and not for shipping), young people enjoying old MCs and all of that but now suddenly the MC HAS to be literally (you). If you are trans they have to be trans too, not even the gender you identify as, if you are over-weighted the MC has to be too, the heritage, the mental illness the quirks everything has to be an exact copy.

It's why we're getting so many fucking annoying zoomer MC with ADHD, memespeak and addiction to trends in the west and so many otaku MC (oh how much I hate that trope) in anime. Even female MCs are often otaku now and all spergy and annoying. I don't even WANT to be represented. I don't desire yaoi addicted feMCs I rather want a cool or hot MC or a good story regardless of age and gender of the MC.
I wonder if it's related to socmedia or if fiction is simply pandering a whole different group now.

 No.5354

>>5284
Due to current events I'm seeing a bunch of the american aidens on social media now pretending like Trump is going to send death squads to their house and I've been thinking that the political climate since 2016 has been making people push for representation harder to justify their own existence.

 No.5382

>>5354
Living in their heads rent-free lol. Big business (including Big Pharma) supports Trump, so there is no way he'd clamp down on tranny medicalisation.



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 No.2521[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Discuss the current state of modern fandoms with the anti/pro discourse.
>What is pro/anti discourse?
Pro and anti refers to two stands in current fandom culture of what is acceptable or not to show in fiction. Anti is someone who is against anything that can be considered problematic (incest, age gaps, abuse,etc) and pro is someone who is in favour of anything problematic. But the labels can usually be something bigger, like discourse with headcanons, whitewashing, etc etc… The problematic things are just the more common ones.
>Where do these discourses usually take place?
Usually on places like Twitter, Tumblr and Ao3, but they can also be seen in other places like Discord servers, TikTok and so on.
>Are there any reads about this?
Here's a few, feel free to post more that you find!
https://note.com/orangiah/n/n437e262ce2ce (Japanese artist explaining the whole anti/pro thing)
https://www.themarysue.com/fandom-has-a-purity-culture-problem/ (general article talking of purity culture in fandom spaces)
https://www.cbr.com/cartoon-fandom-has-a-puritanism-problem/ (article about puritanism as well as a debunk in another article saying children's media has a porn problem)

Last thread
https://archive.is/9WPtF
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 No.5377

>>5376
AO3 doesn't have different tags depending on pairing order they're made synonyms of the main tag. While an author could type the specific order they want internally it's counted as the same thing.

 No.5378

>>5376
If you specifically look at the top/bottom tags (i.e. Top Dr. Ratio/Bottom Aventurine), Ratiorine outnumbers Aventio

 No.5381

>>5364
Merlin hanging in there will always make me laugh. Make a show with a billion love potion plots and watch as the world collectively concludes that the best bro stopping him from kissing the girl was the right one all along (also that whole thing with the herb in the cave). Shoulda made a better ending, guys.



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 No.3664[Reply]

The sentence "If you'd replace one or two of the main leads with women, nothing changes" made me wonder if Yoai or Bl can benefit from a bit of realism. I'm on camp neutral, personally. I don't mind some reality in my m/m smut, but one of the reasons I like BL and Joseimuke is the decoupling expectations.
Men in these stories are borne under an idealized version women yearned for but never got because society at large forces men to be something they're not, and they all believe it. Buying into lies has caused men to double down on their misogyny over the years, harming both women, children, and themselves. And when they do reach that truth, they either blot it out or troon it out. Men can never learn, so I've relegated myself to BL, as stupid as it sounds. I feel I have the most control when reality proves disappointing. 
(btw, is this best place to post? /ot/ seemed promising but I choose /ffs/ instead. Made the most sense and honestly, I just wanna screech about pet theories. Please don't clown on me lol)
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 No.5170

i like when the guys are portrayed as straight or on the asexual spectrum until they meet the other guy, so no…
the idea of them being gay isn't attractive to me. but to be fair i don't like when they act too moidy in general so the turn off is not appliable just to them being homosexual. i guess i just want an unrealistic and idealized version of guys. it makes things more romantic and hot

 No.5193

It's all about gap moe and well-rounded personality for me. I don't want them to come off as girly but for the sake of making myself clear I should mention that I don't think of coomer behavior or macho when I say "manly". The real hotness comes from contrasts. Like a serious, honorable and sophisticated dude that values etiquette but then over-reacts or gets emotionally confused when things don't go his way or when his potential love interest approaches him. Or super serious tradition-loving guy that throws an autistic tantrum sometimes.
A bit like the cartoon villains from the past to be honest lol. Threatening at first but then they turn out to be naive and do dumb shit or throw a fit until their super loyal totally not gay sidekick calms them down. Or an allegedly unemotional scientist with hidden insecurities.

There is a lot. But them being outright feminine/boyish kills my enjoyment since cuteness and emotions should be the top on the ice cake not the defining trait everything else is based around. That aside it's just cute and hot af seeing some scary dude softening for a certain other dude. It hits very differently from a blushing insecure softie being lovely dovey. That aside I cannot even relate to those types. Like I don't self-insert or anything but I at least have to vaguely understand a character to like him and I can't with those male and female moe blobbs anime use to have.



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 No.429[Reply]

I believe we need containment thread for NOTP posting.
Post any NOTP that you fucking hate the reason can be anything canon, position, fans, etc. be petty as you want.
feel free to bash them or venting about it.
Dont visit this thread if you cant stand seeing your favorite ship get dunked.
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 No.5013

Does anyone have a ship that everyone thinks is your NOTP, but you don't actually feel that strongly? I mean like a ship where you're very vocal that the popular versions aren't right and you're sick of seeing it all the time, and that the characters are more like this and this in canon. At this point, because it's also a problematic ship and people would question my interests (which is stupid 'cuz the series already has rape and dismemberment), I just let acquaintances assume I hate all instances of it. The truth is I think the way people ship it at the moment is full of flanderizing and ignoring key character traits to make an OC out of one guy and preserve their favorite as he is. I've read fics from the 00s where the authors remembered to keep both of them in-character and the slow build up is way better, the way the more innocent one struggles and resists is taken seriously instead of a joke and that leads to really sexy descriptions. The current fanart and comics and stuff are always just making him tsundere and helpless instead of repulsed by murder and mutilation, and then when they skip that stage they just make him hollow and compliant so he no longer has his personality. It's frustrating because I'm more into him than the seme and the fact he fights back in canon and gets all pissy and growly is one of his best features, as well as drowning in despair and self hate when he thinks he's committed evils. It's frustrating to find every new fanart is some OOC rewrite who is OK with everything he stands against. I've definitely posted about this ship before but it's particularly awkward that I don't feel like I can say "no actually I think it's fine I just think they're fucking it up ALL the time." I'm not shipping it myself but I think there's more than enough in canon that plays around with it and I'm disappointed everyone's taking the easy option to make it work. I want to walk into their workspace and show them how to do their job and leave, lol.

 No.5017

>>5013
It sounds like you're talking about Optimus and Megatron including the dismembering part LMAO because that's also exactly what newer fans are doing and fics from the 00s were so much better. Like there are still good ones, but yeah I feel the same about such issues and transformers respectively the way fans often handle Optimus is a good example. People woobify one of them too much in modern times and it got so annoying that I ignored the shipping for years despite that they were ships I also casually enjoyed.
Anyway I agree I know that feeling. If something is popular enough fans will assume that you NOTP it if you argue against it even if it's just the way they are doing it that annoys you. I don't like OOC, woobifying and selfinserting and I see a lot of this happening, especially for older fandoms. Maybe fans lack new material so they start basing their stories off on other fanon that is based on earlier fanon and so on until the guys they ship have nothing in common with the originals anymore.

I always feel like I am party pooper, regardless of the fandom I am in. It's always me who dislikes ooc and the majority seems to be in love with it. I hate it since it would make me enjoy so much art and writing more if I could, but I can't. No matter how much I love a character (or especially because of that) I always dislike mischaracterizations of them.

 No.5159

>>4965
The fans of that only talk about how its antis who hate it. No, I don't believe you're a pedophile in real life for shipping. I just don't like it because I see it was ooc for Reigen. Him being that type of guy would make him a completely different character.



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 No.4266[Reply]

A thread for ships that often get brought up as 'super gay' or are at least popular that you never got the vibe for, doesn't even have to be ships you dislike just ones that you never really got.

Starting off
>Only scene I thought was fujo was the rain scene with the foot polishing
>And it's not even in the manga
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Hannibal, I guess I was never the biggest Silence of the Lambs fan in the first place; but I remember trying really hard to get into this show and ship when it came out and it never clicked for me.

Still love still love all the dark fan art the sweies produces.

 No.5084

>>5068
Same. I can rationally see why it's very good fujobait, but my heart doesn't follow.

 No.5112

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>>5068
>>5084
I don't even think they would have sex with each other, just indulge in the mutual corruption fetish by doing heinous things. Spiritually gay at its finest.



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 No.1326[Reply]

I feel in the last 6 years or so, gay male vocabulary has found its way in various BL spaces from fan-fics to fansubs and even official translations of BL works, I have seen the word twink being used for male character who have literally average builds and I literally lose a year of my life when I see the word bussy and now even more dumb gay twitter shit is spreading
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 No.5016

>>5015
>It already happened that well hinted/pandered ships were erased and nobody here was shipping them because the official TL simply ungayed their dialogues and I believe that it wasn't even because of a homophobic translator but simply a BAD translator.
Do you have examples? I can't think of any but I English isn't my first language so I tend to only check English translations if there aren't any in my mother tongue.

 No.5019

>>5015
>How is it possible that out of all these people they manage to fish out the few memetastic idiots respectively why is it only them applying for these jobs?
Blame Crunchyroll, they basically have a monopoly on Anime distributions in America and they work on the cheap, so they refuse to work with with union voice actors and dub directors and instead hire people from the Internet who who can afford to treat this like a youtube parody series instead of a job, kyle mccarley(a voice actor) talks about this and this method basically set a precedent for other companies as well

 No.5049

>>1327
Damn, I know this was posted 2 years ago but this image sums up why I don't like typical seme/uke tropes. My ideal dynamic is for both of them to have dick butterflies *and* stomach butterflies. They're both men so I don't want one dude being like an 'innocent maiden' who doesn't get horny.



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 No.1542[Reply]

I wanted to discuss the concept of crack pairings and the concept of ironic shipping as it relates to fandom. Feel free to post anything that relates to the topic, or to post art, but I'll ask a few questions to start.
>What do you generally think of such shipping? Do you think it's dumb, annoying, interesting, fun?
>Any thoughts on serious crossovers style ships of two characters different properties vs joke ships trying to be silly, what is your preference?
>Do you have any crack pairings you like?
>Do you think it has any effect on fandom as a whole, either positeve or negative?
>Did you ever start to ship something as a joke, to then become unironic about the pairing?
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 No.4759

>>4758
>If you write a 15k Elmo/Kermit angst fic it's impressive even though it's still just "Crack" and ridiculous.
This reminded me of a 100k Sid/Andy (yes, from Toy Story) fic I read a billion years ago: https://archiveofourown.org/works/617850/chapters/1114701

I vaguely remember this ship being a meme in the early/mid 2010s, kind of a like a proto Max/Bradley (yes, from the Goofy movies).

 No.4760

>>4759
Oh man, I do remember this ship being a thing when garbage man Sid was an easter egg in the third movie however I can't imagine writing a novel length fanfic of it. Good for the author though might check it out.

Can't believe there are over 1000 Toy Story fics and 300+ are m/m. I'd almost say any work for that fandom should be crack but I guess Woody/Buzz has enough canon basis unlike Andy/Sid.

 No.4906

>>1542
>>Did you ever start to ship something as a joke, to then become unironic about the pairing?
Embarrassing to admit but the answer is squidbob



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