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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.9187

Where can I read old doujin scans online? Raws are fine. This thread makes me wanna get back into Saint Seiya and other IP

 No.9209

>>9186
Oh wow Ronin Warriors! I kinda remember it being on Toonami, but I dont remember watching it. Maybe I was busy being obsessed over another show like Gundam Wing?

 No.9262

>>9187
http://b-para.co
might have some…



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 No.4907[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post shit in BL that you hate.

Previous >>2
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 No.9303

>>9297
Soo trueeee. It puts me off. Sure its a healthy practice but I don't want to see it. I want to see that raw dick go in!

 No.9304

>>9297
I find it a lot less hot now after learning that that shit dries out quickly and gets gross. I like condoms for spontaneous sex, I'd rather not imagine my fave having to awkwardly clean his ass after or before.

 No.9365

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whatever this is?



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 No.3664[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The sentence "If you'd replace one or two of the main leads with women, nothing changes" made me wonder if Yoai or Bl can benefit from a bit of realism. I'm on camp neutral, personally. I don't mind some reality in my m/m smut, but one of the reasons I like BL and Joseimuke is the decoupling expectations.
Men in these stories are borne under an idealized version women yearned for but never got because society at large forces men to be something they're not, and they all believe it. Buying into lies has caused men to double down on their misogyny over the years, harming both women, children, and themselves. And when they do reach that truth, they either blot it out or troon it out. Men can never learn, so I've relegated myself to BL, as stupid as it sounds. I feel I have the most control when reality proves disappointing. 
(btw, is this best place to post? /ot/ seemed promising but I choose /ffs/ instead. Made the most sense and honestly, I just wanna screech about pet theories. Please don't clown on me lol)
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 No.9228

>>9220
>Ive seen it done more often in bara than ive seen in yaoi
I wanna know why this is the case. Bara attracts gay men more than bi men, so the comparison should be even more divorced for gay guys. Yet, the weird "pussy" description is more prevalent in gay circles.

Again, seriously, what's up with that? Is it because they've never seen a pussy up close, so they make these inane comparisons, unlike bi guys who've seen it before, and thus can easily tell the difference? But why even talk about such a thing in the first place when you only like dick and a man's ass?

 No.9230

>>9228
It is a male-dominance thing. In bara, a man can be so masculine that everyone else is basically female in comparison. In some rare cases, this can even lead to male pregnancy for the bottom.

 No.9231

>>9228
>>9230
It's going to sound sexist as fuck, but I also think men in general are more crass. So while yaoi tends to be a bit flowery bara is more crude and vulgar.



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 No.4016[Reply]

I would like to watch some Gundam with nonas, using a service such as Cytube.

I'm open to scheduling it as a 'few episodes a week', or 'A bunch of episodes in bulk'. Both are good.

My timezone is Berlin time, GMT +1.

Nonas can let me know which Gundam they'd like to watch. I'm fine with anything that has cute boys. My personal wish is Zeta Gundam, but I'm also fine watching another timeline or repeating the 0079 series (Albeit perhaps with dub or something to shake it up).
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 No.8687

>>8641
Congrats on starting college nonna!

I prefer here personally the site you were using last time worked well.

 No.8731

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Hearing Amuro's voice upon rewatch feels so weird after the Furuya scandal.

 No.9182

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The G-Cucks anime was…disappointing… Good fanart though.



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 No.5554[Reply]

How did you become a fujoshi?

Last thread: https://fujochan.org/bl/res/102.html
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 No.9142

sooo- I was like nine years old and I had just finished Death Note, searching for memes and stuffI found that a lot of images mencioned the word YAOI and I just googled it to find out what it meant- one thing led to another and SENSITIVE PORNOGRAPH appared in in front of me in the form of some NSFW gifs- At first I had some questions, but then I just went with the vibe LOL

 No.9143

If I remember correctly, Gravitation was my introduction to both yaoi as a genre and manga as a medium.

 No.9156

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>>7719
I was a couple of years younger and Saint Seiya was probably one of my first, too. My favorite was Ikki and I paired him with Shun,it was beautiful. It didn't help that Ikki got some short lived love interest (hated her) that the first thing to come out of his mouth was that he thought she was Shun!

But I think officially my first exposure to m/m was a Dragonball fanfic where Goku and Vegeta got together and then that was it,I didn't look back at hetero romance until my mid 30s for a brief period and now I'm back home.



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 No.4266[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread for ships that often get brought up as 'super gay' or are at least popular that you never got the vibe for, doesn't even have to be ships you dislike just ones that you never really got.

Starting off
>Only scene I thought was fujo was the rain scene with the foot polishing
>And it's not even in the manga
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 No.9145

>>9141
Who's the mom?

 No.9149

>>9145
There's a secret magic jitsu that can make it possible for men to make babies. Or Orochimaru makes them test tube babies. It's hotter if Naruto bottoms plus he's the better parent anyways so he can be the "mom"

 No.9150

>>9145
>>9149
Nart can hold the sexy no jutsu for 9 months easy.



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 No.362[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What do you think of the modern BL scene?
I see a lot of users on this site express nostalgia for the yaoi fandom of old, and a lot of images and art you see posted are very circa 2008, so to speak.
Things have changed a lot in BL over the years for sure - for example, Chinese BL making a big splash in the west, and reversible couples becoming more common.
Do you think things have changed for the better, or do you miss the way things used to be?
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 No.859

>>511
>a common thing to throw around at age gap pairings regardless of how they actually act.
This reminds me so much of how people viewed the relationship between Hank and Connor.

 No.1464

>>397
>Comiket was practically elevated to the status it is now by BL enthusiast women because it was fujos who kept the whole event alive with their endless bishie comics and a very tight-knit community active in providing for each other, just like today. It wasn't until men were triggered by this change and wanted comiket only for themselves and "kick the fujos out" by doing what moids do best - drooling over literal little girl porn in the form of a lolicon anthology called Cybele. Comiket now has separate days for male and female audiences.
I didn't know this but it's nice to learn that this is mirrors what happened in the west re: fangirls, Star Trek, and Kirk/Spock. Would love to read more about it.

>>400
>These people are the reason you see so many fujos having to cough up a half-hearted f/f ship just to keep them off their backs.
I feel called out.

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 No.2521[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Discuss the current state of modern fandoms with the anti/pro discourse.
>What is pro/anti discourse?
Pro and anti refers to two stands in current fandom culture of what is acceptable or not to show in fiction. Anti is someone who is against anything that can be considered problematic (incest, age gaps, abuse,etc) and pro is someone who is in favour of anything problematic. But the labels can usually be something bigger, like discourse with headcanons, whitewashing, etc etc… The problematic things are just the more common ones.
>Where do these discourses usually take place?
Usually on places like Twitter, Tumblr and Ao3, but they can also be seen in other places like Discord servers, TikTok and so on.
>Are there any reads about this?
Here's a few, feel free to post more that you find!
https://note.com/orangiah/n/n437e262ce2ce (Japanese artist explaining the whole anti/pro thing)
https://www.themarysue.com/fandom-has-a-purity-culture-problem/ (general article talking of purity culture in fandom spaces)
https://www.cbr.com/cartoon-fandom-has-a-puritanism-problem/ (article about puritanism as well as a debunk in another article saying children's media has a porn problem)

Last thread
https://archive.is/9WPtF
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 No.8763

>>8762
"anti" types are so strange to me since they're fine with piss kinks but freak the fuck out over sibling incest

 No.8765

>>8762
>trigun
>transmetropolitan
Half of these people are probably projecting.

 No.8766

>>8763
One that they lost it over was "misgendering kink." Apparently it's deeply transphobic and hurts "the community" for a woman to want to be called a little boy during sex. Not that the user with it made much sense when stating it.



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 No.8357[Reply]

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.

Previous Thread
>>6984
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 No.8714

>>8713
I feel the same, I don't understand why these people are reading stuff like Jinx or Walk in My Shoes religiously if they hate it so much.
I've read some of the comments they leave and supposedly they're waiting for the author to punish/redeem the jerk top and for the story to finally get good but… It's obvious to anyone with media literacy and a brain that's never gonna happen, and if it does, it's not gonna be in the way these readers want.
I'll never get it. If I get annoyed by an aspect of any manga/webtoon/novel, even if it's the stupidest thing ever, I just drop the damn thing and forget about it, not keep up with it until it ends while leaving dozens of comments about why the story/character/author is horrible every day/week.
If they want fluff they should look for it., there's ton of SOL cozy stuff out there!
The tags are there to warn them of any triggering topic it may contain ffs… Sigh

 No.8715

>>8714
>they're waiting for the author to punish/redeem the jerk top and for the story to finally get good
To be fair I see Jinx attempting that redemption arc right now even if the progress is piecemeal. But no it's not going to improve the story's quality.
I quite like Jinx despite its flaws though. The writing may be ass but it's definitely engaging enough to draw a large crowd back week after week. There are worse manhwas/webtoons out there but doesn't get the attention Jinx gets because nobody could continue reading that shit, not even moralfags who want to hate on obvious ragebait or whatever.

 No.8716

>>8715
I think in the case of Jinx the art is a big part of the draw for people. The story is middling and predictable, but the detail in the characters is better than a lot of other comparable comics.

>>8714
If you want to see people really jump through hoops trying to rationalize how characters can/should be redeemed (or punished), look at Slammer Dogs and Control Time. It's mind-boggling.



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 No.6255[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.

Old thread >>4731
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 No.8746

>>8745
Life gets so much better when you only interact with yuri/het fans who are fujos first. I really don’t have the energy to deal with these kinds of people anymore.

 No.8747

>>8746
There's so many yuri fans who are fine with homophobic het fans claiming fujoshi are misogynistic. They claim fujos are the homophobes but when they're fine with people like this no one cares and they don't get half the bad pr fujos get.

 No.8748

>>8747
We survived the witch hunts of the ‘10s and came out victorious, this too shall pass. Every trial we brave makes the resolve of the fujos who come out the other side stronger and more unashamed.



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