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 No.2521[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Discuss the current state of modern fandoms with the anti/pro discourse.
>What is pro/anti discourse?
Pro and anti refers to two stands in current fandom culture of what is acceptable or not to show in fiction. Anti is someone who is against anything that can be considered problematic (incest, age gaps, abuse,etc) and pro is someone who is in favour of anything problematic. But the labels can usually be something bigger, like discourse with headcanons, whitewashing, etc etc… The problematic things are just the more common ones.
>Where do these discourses usually take place?
Usually on places like Twitter, Tumblr and Ao3, but they can also be seen in other places like Discord servers, TikTok and so on.
>Are there any reads about this?
Here's a few, feel free to post more that you find!
https://note.com/orangiah/n/n437e262ce2ce (Japanese artist explaining the whole anti/pro thing)
https://www.themarysue.com/fandom-has-a-purity-culture-problem/ (general article talking of purity culture in fandom spaces)
https://www.cbr.com/cartoon-fandom-has-a-puritanism-problem/ (article about puritanism as well as a debunk in another article saying children's media has a porn problem)

Last thread
https://archive.is/9WPtF
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 No.12660

>>12643
Idk I think it's disgusting people are sexualizing her because the game looks so realistic it crosses a bit of a line for me. Like don't have an issue with lolisho, but I do think you're gross if you like this girl like that.

 No.12662

>>12660
Ayrt and I agree with you on that, she's way too realistic. I just think a lot of people are exaggerating.

 No.12665

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>>12643
>>12660
Her character design still has an edge of 'anime' that blurs the line a bit, but as we get more realistic graphics it becomes harder to argue. The original tweet is being insane about it though. Imagine equating someone expressing wonder about a new experience to nothing more than a fetish. If you can accuse something of 'bar for bar' being that content, then you've clearly exposed yourself to quite a bit of it.



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 No.904[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

irrational hatred against astolfo, femboys and femboy culture and how the majority of people think it aligns with yaoi
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 No.12520

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>>12519
I agree, fuck people who decide that they have to hit a certain "purity level" and only enjoy certain characters they feel are fujo or whatever the fuck. People shouldn't have to pretend to like something or hide the fact that they enjoy something.

Unrelated to this thread but I would share so much more art here if I wasn't afraid of getting ostracized for my taste in less conventually attractive men. It's a mental hangup I need to get over.

 No.12556

>>12518
Shotas at least look male

 No.12557

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>>12514
Based. If people like the things that I like then they simply have good taste. Imagine being so weak allowing your tastes to be manipulated by who you hate.



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 No.11350[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post cringy anti-fujo takes to laugh at or discuss

Old thread >>8898
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 No.12457

>>12385
Are you stupid, every other black woman I know is either studying or used to study korean, no one dick rides their culture the way black women do, be real

 No.12459

>>12457
that anon is probably stuck in the 90s where blacks and koreans had beef with each other.

 No.12460

>>12459
I think it depends where you are, but there's still some hostility between asian and black populations in the US. Hate crime statistics back this up.

>>12453
I feel bad for them sometimes but then its like… do they really think their nasty boyfriends think they're men? Sis! He's with you because you're easy. Stop clogging up my search results with hetslop!



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 No.4266[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread for ships that often get brought up as 'super gay' or are at least popular that you never got the vibe for, doesn't even have to be ships you dislike just ones that you never really got.

Starting off
>Only scene I thought was fujo was the rain scene with the foot polishing
>And it's not even in the manga
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 No.12455

>>12454
This is THE tourist ship.

 No.12456

>>12455
Not into Dungeon Meshi, but isn't there a thousand more interesting problematic ships? even het ones like Laios and his sister? and the brown dude x elf like you said?

 No.12458

>>12456
thats exactly why this ship is so popular, especially among western fans. Its the relatively least problematic ship of them all, second only to LaiosXMarchille which they condemn because they insist Marcille is a lesbian (shes not). Even Toudencest is better than Labru. I tried to get into it during my read and i just couldnt.



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 No.10865[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Previous thread:
>>8865

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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 No.12564

>>12562
And what? Ignore the elephant in the room about the fujo community? Let the real problem take over while everywhere else has been co-opted by these mentally ill freaks that want to bully women into creating what they want? To take the definition of words and pervert them into their delusions? Get real.

 No.12567

>>12563
>>12564
You have threads for this. Multiple of them. You don't need to hijack other threads.

 No.12698

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I’ve read every buck hughes/keith ramsey fics ten times over, no matter how bad it is. I can count the fan art i’ve seen of them one hand… WHY?? its such a good ship. I beg ubisoft REMASTER IT. I WILL BUY ALL YOUR SHITTY GAMES. I don’t care how bad it is, just please attract more fujos to it. Call me a fake fan I DONT CARE



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 No.8[Reply]

why do people always claim fujoshi hate female characters? most of the fujos i hang/hung with had tons of female favorites and only ever despised women that didn't do anything (orihime of bleach, for example).

i don't get the whole yumejo vs. fujo war either, is that just a psyop by moids?
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 No.11997

>>11991
Most people simply scroll past posts they don't like. People with all kinds of opinions have the same right to post here as you do.

 No.11998

>>11994
female characters are fictional, people should be uncomfortable about people shitting on fujos and fangirls in general not fictional characters kek
Virtue signalers i swear to god.

 No.12001

>>11808
>>11833
>>11969
In my experience, a lot of the "love" yumes and generic hetshippers have for female characters is entirely performative and most of their time goes into weaponizing them to moralize against fujos rather than actually enjoying the characters themselves. Like they claim to be the biggest fan and protector of female character x, but in the end the only time they talk about her is just fluff without substance or to whine about fujos not respecting her supposedly amazing writing. Most fujos are either indifferent or at least respectful towards female characters, no great enthusiasm one way or another because their focus is on the male ship, yet pixel feminists use their indifference as proof of their hatred. I specifically can't stand it when they do this to female characters that are explicitly created by men for male coom and argue that it doesn't matter because the character in question is "totally like them IRL" so hating her means you're hating her personally and thus all women.



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 No.4327[Reply]

A few hours ago, Aniwave (9anime) and Anix were shut down, it seems like it was hit by a DMCA claim. These were big sites that hosted thousands of different animes. Companies seem to be going hard against piracy sites and it makes me wonder if they'll go for manga next.
Do you use piracy or do you prefer paid services? Do you think the potential death of easily accessible piracy will be a big issue? Is the solution teaching others to torrent?

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/ace-goes-after-fmovies-sister-site-successors-240824/
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 No.5436

>>5428
>Anyway I will never pay for a VPN.
You don't need to. There are plenty of free ones, like Proton.
>the good old days when ban evasion on 4chan with VPNgate https://www.vpngate.net was easy

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Anime Tosho is shutting down.
https://animetosho.org/about/shutdown

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>>11960
I don't even know why I bother living anymore.



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 No.429[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I believe we need containment thread for NOTP posting.
Post any NOTP that you fucking hate the reason can be anything canon, position, fans, etc. be petty as you want.
feel free to bash them or venting about it.
Dont visit this thread if you cant stand seeing your favorite ship get dunked.
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 No.11944

>>11934
disagree with gerita. they’re good actually (even your picrel is cute kek it doesn’t help your case) but prumano does suck so bad. it feels so forced and makes no sense. it always just felt like “leftovers” yknow? romano is better with spain and prussia is better with germany

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>>11944
>>11934
Romano should be with Italy the way god intended!! Spamano is good too though

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>>11944
I think Germany and Italy are cute together but only as friends. I can't see them being a couple. (Mostly because I ship Germany with Prussia kek). I totally get what you mean about prumano, I feel the same.
>>11946
So kawiwi! I love spamano but Romano is definitely weird about his brother.



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 No.2217[Reply]

Do they exist?
Have you ever met one, in real life or online?
What do you think about them, actually and theoretically?
Do you think any use fujochan?
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 No.11922

>>11911

I don't know, but i usually don't care if they're trans. I know everyone here has issues with them but to me it's not something that i'm worried about.

Also to clarify, i don't hate fudanshis, i just don't trust them.

 No.11924

>>11922
>I know everyone here has issues with them but to me it's not something that i'm worried about
I think the point is that you can't put trans 'fudans' in the same category as regular fudans because 99% of the time their behavior is the same as fujos except with a lot more overcompensation and/or shitting on fujos to make themselves feel more valid, including the 'making yaoi their entire identity' thing. Sometimes fudans join in on the fujo bullying if they're the misogynistic type, though, but they're less likely to complain on the basis of stereotypical 'toxic yaoi tropes' and more on the fujo content not being manly enough for them.
Rule of thumb is if you see he/him or he/they in bio it's an Aiden, adjust expectations accordingly.

 No.12056

Places like /cm/ are full of fundanshi. Issue is, they're all violently misogynistic kek.



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 No.5554[Reply]

How did you become a fujoshi?

Last thread: https://fujochan.org/bl/res/102.html
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 No.11811

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>be me
>age 13
>already in my weeaboo phase, aware of yaoi's existence
>repulsed by any kind of romance so other than making fun of yaoi sometimes i didn't think much of it
>the months pass by peacefully
>one random day i decide to drink some water from a bottle found in the car
>it smells sweet, like flavored water
>take a few sips, it burns down my throat
>thats not water
>it was windshield washer fluid
>immediately rushed to the hospital
>have to stay there for a few weeks to check for kidney issues
>confined to a white empty room with nothing to do but imagine angsty fake scenarios
>start fantasizing about my favorite character at the time fighting the guy who bullies him
>the bully beats him up badly
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 No.11814

>>11811
lmao, what an origin story. Do you think the windshield fluid somehow injected you with the fujo fantasies or were you just that bored? I like bully/victim pairings too, but it feels like a little utilized trope in published works…

 No.11821

>>11814
unfortunately it's probably the latter kek, as funny as it would be if windshield washer were a fujo transformation potion. As for the bully/victim works, you're right, I don't see them a lot…But tastes change with age too so not really looking for them either. I remember enjoying Caste Heaven around the mid-2010s or so, afair it had some shuffling around with bully/victim power dynamics.



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