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 No.4016[Reply]

I would like to watch some Gundam with nonas, using a service such as Cytube.

I'm open to scheduling it as a 'few episodes a week', or 'A bunch of episodes in bulk'. Both are good.

My timezone is Berlin time, GMT +1.

Nonas can let me know which Gundam they'd like to watch. I'm fine with anything that has cute boys. My personal wish is Zeta Gundam, but I'm also fine watching another timeline or repeating the 0079 series (Albeit perhaps with dub or something to shake it up).
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 No.5490

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>>5487
There's Noin. She's female though… and in love with the Char expy

(Mods can delete this if it's against the rules)

 No.5520

>>5490
I forgot about her (since she doesn't die/have a fake death or gets betrayed).

 No.8299

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Isn't it good to have this thread now, huh.



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 No.5538[Reply]

Self-inserting has always been a thing, however, more than ever has it not taken in an almost parasitic and viral infestation in general fandom and the BL scene.

Whether it's the need to make gay ships het by adding a vagina/transing, or blatantly stating they see non-insert ships as cucking, let's talk about self-inserting and how bad it's gotten.
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 No.8047

>>8043
Other anon. And yeah Jetfire/SS is one of the ships I categorically ignore since I never see it being done without SS being full ooc. It's the most extreme case of uwufying. Like I don't condemn it or anything, it's just nothing that interest me. I want villains to keep their traits even if they're toned down in a love story.
btw we should discuss this in the TF thread, it's sad how dead it is and I feel like there is a lot to discuss lol

 No.8051

I specifically dislike authors self-inserts tbh, which also end up being people’s self-inserts because readers relate to what the author feels. This is very true when it comes to Japanese authors, like one big giveaway is when the main character has a super generic design while everyone else has unique, detailed ones. Of course the author doesn’t want their personal avatar to have a standout design because it’d be harder to relate to right? It's annoying because I’m here to read a story not to watch the author’s projection wacky adventures.

 No.8052

>>8051
This is my main gripe with manga. Worst of all is that you can tell by the narrative by how the MC is treated by the plot and the side characters compared to everybody else. They're the only ones allowed to be savior and do the cool shit, everybody who is good loves them, everybody who is evil respects them because MC is just so fucking awesome (and I usually dislike them).

I either drop such series or stick to them because I am unlucky enough to love some of the side characters and have to bear with the endless shilling for as long as the series is running because the insecure author cannot share empathy or success with other characters, especially not other characters of the same gender as them.

It's the no. 1 reason for why most media and especially most manga are shit IMO.



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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.7997

>>6631
>Barty Crouch x Evan Rosier
>Marlene McKinnon x Dorcas Meadowes
Why… They were nobodies. Was it a meme ship for some challenge or something?

 No.7999

>>7997
"Marauder's fandom" is its own separate beast at this point. It is a headcanon playground/circlejerk.
>>7982
Continually surprised at the staying power of Demon Slayer. I bounced off of it so it's hard for me to accept that it apparently has fujo appeal.

 No.8000

>>7999
It's a goldmine if you like mentor/kouhai or brocest type of ships. There's also some good villain/hero and villain/villain material, but you have to enjoy a certain level of tragedy or fixit AUs.



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 No.7969[Reply]

How do Japanese events work? Inspired due to quality content posted by nonas in the Refantazio thread.

>How do events work?


>What is your experience with Japanese doujinshi events?

 No.7974

>>7969
>>What is your experience with Japanese doujinshi events?
I participated in an anthology event with a friend (not actual attendance, just the submitting manuscript part) and she told me that printing costs are pretty high overall and that sometimes people with very differing ships get placed very far from another which is pretty funny.
Small niches often don't get to have events and it sucks because whenever Akaboo holds one of those tweets that are "the most amount of likes will get considered for an event" usually big fanartists for big franchises like JJK are the ones that end up winning

 No.7975

We already have a similar thread. I won't repost everything Ii said there because that would be too long and it would take too much time because of the 5 minutes delay between posts so here's my experience from last year: https://fujochan.org/bl/res/3330.html#q3500

tldr; I went to an akaboo event at the end of June during my trip called June Bride Fes, I only bought satosugu doujinshi because other pairings I like are too niche and didn't have artists/doujinshi there or because I didn't like the doujinshi sold there. I also bought some doujinshi in Mandarake in Ikebukuro and Akihabara. The event didn't last for a very long time, you have to be as strategic as possible if you're interested in a lot of different artists, the venue is pretty big and there's some schizo every year according to Japanese twitter users who screams very loudly and look up skirts and dresses so be careful. I heard her from far away at some point but didn't see her so I was wondering if I was imagining things until I saw a bunch of women saying she needs to be banned once and for all. Take snacks, a bottle of water and a large and empty tote bag with you to avoid buying things right there. Download a map of the venue with information on circles and fandoms in advance to make sure you know where to go first. And don't cosplay, it's only allowed in specific circumstances (you usually have to pay a specific type of ticket if you're a visitor or you're only allowed to if you sell there) unlike western events where you can wear your cosplay from home to the venue and a lot of people wear their costumes in public transport or in their car.

>Refantazio thread

Please no spoilers here, I'd like to play the game later.

>>7974
>Small niches often don't get to have events and it sucks because whenever Akaboo holds one of those tweets that are "the most amount of likes will get considered for an event" usually big fanartists for big franchises like JJK are the ones that end up winning
I have no idea how these votes work at all.

 No.7991

>>7975
>I have no idea how these votes work at all.
There are different options.
One, is this type https://x.com/AKABOO_OFFICIAL/status/1895776106386538505
Akaboo will occasionally mention that if you tweet using #ひらいて赤ブー hashtag (sometimes #開いて赤ブー) they will decide what gets a ship event depending on the number of retweets/likes. Doesn't have to be a "ship" event necessarily, just as long as it looks like something people would want.
That's why you'll sometimes see artists tweet about something with series name and ship name censored (to avoid copyright issues I presume).
The second option, there was an explanation here >>3780
Which is basically gaining tickets by submitting doujinshi. A doujin artist that constantly puts up 5 books per event needs to print their books on an approved printing service that can grant akaboo tickets, sometimes people of the same circles can gather together to vote for the same series/pair if they all consistently release doujinshi themselves.



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 No.8[Reply]

why do people always claim fujoshi hate female characters? most of the fujos i hang/hung with had tons of female favorites and only ever despised women that didn't do anything (orihime of bleach, for example).

i don't get the whole yumejo vs. fujo war either, is that just a psyop by moids?
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 No.7873

>>7871
Fanservice design being hard to overlook is so annoying, especially in shonen. But I get the feeling that these fanservice designs are enforced sometimes - like Bishamon in Noragami is introduced in a bikini outfit and then the authors (who are both women) gradually stop using it and show her more often in a suit. Then they actually 'kill off' the outfit (it makes sense in context, the outfit is a character who turns into clothes) so it can never actually appear again.
The Kimetsu author is also supposedly female and the vibe I got from the extra comic about Mitsuri's outfit was 'I'm writing this to complain about my shitty male editor', but hey, I could be totally wrong.
>If the character design appeals to me, I’ll end up liking the character (male or female) even if they are badly written because I do think they have potential simply because their design is nice.
This is how I work too, unless a girl just turns out to be a love interest.

 No.7874

>>7872
Same, I genuinely like Kemono Friends season 1. Now that's a world where female characters just exist, don't think too hard about it.

 No.7875

>>7872
Sorta of agree nonna but I think often times needing to get rid of men just to make female characters shine feels kinda depressing. I sometimes wish there was shows where men and women coexisted without devolving into love drama (doesn't stop the fans from shipping them but that's how most ships got their start).



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 No.5838[Reply]

So this has been confirmed by all my Chinese mutuals, who have told me how hopeless things have become there and it's only getting worse. In 2014 obscenity laws were passed in China that mainly targeted mainstream porn sites, but gay content was also included and targeted, forcing Chinese BL authors to use more 'flowery language' if they were writing something intended for an 'audience' in public, but on foreign sites (Western but mostly Taiwanese) they could be more free, still it was gradually building up to this, starting from 2022(according to my mutuals) the underground sites were removed en-masse, now the Chinese government even forces foreign companies to meet their standards. If you are a Chinese citizen who even writes anything about gay romance, you will go to jail for it

Here's the article for more information
https://www.whatsonweibo.com/the-price-of-writing-smut-inside-chinas-crackdown-on-erotic-fiction/
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 No.7643

>>7637
>It's making me ever more scared if trump might do the same for us Americans?
I agree this sucks, but if we act like SJWs who set unrealistic goals, it will lead to us not being taken seriously. The most likely path is that porn and erotica will be banned, but anything to do with "LGBT" will be dealt with more severely and you can be fined for hosting "porn" sites. But we'll undoubtedly be seeingg free speech activists protesting this, which is the side we might end up having to side with, for better or for worse

 No.7704

>>7643
TFW I recall siding with free speech activism in the first damn place as an OG fujo in the early 2000's

 No.7705

>>7643
I don't mind certain types of porn getting banned. Lord knows numerous exploited kinkslop pervading these sites but I also believe we should go all or nothing on the topic of human sexuality. It's a constant for most of us and seeing so many countries scrutinize those outside the norm fills me with such rage that can't tamed. I hate it here.
And you know what's fucked? some "radfems" are complacent with this while their ssa sisters are getting dragged in the streets all over trannies turning the kids "gay".



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 No.2521[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Discuss the current state of modern fandoms with the anti/pro discourse.
>What is pro/anti discourse?
Pro and anti refers to two stands in current fandom culture of what is acceptable or not to show in fiction. Anti is someone who is against anything that can be considered problematic (incest, age gaps, abuse,etc) and pro is someone who is in favour of anything problematic. But the labels can usually be something bigger, like discourse with headcanons, whitewashing, etc etc… The problematic things are just the more common ones.
>Where do these discourses usually take place?
Usually on places like Twitter, Tumblr and Ao3, but they can also be seen in other places like Discord servers, TikTok and so on.
>Are there any reads about this?
Here's a few, feel free to post more that you find!
https://note.com/orangiah/n/n437e262ce2ce (Japanese artist explaining the whole anti/pro thing)
https://www.themarysue.com/fandom-has-a-purity-culture-problem/ (general article talking of purity culture in fandom spaces)
https://www.cbr.com/cartoon-fandom-has-a-puritanism-problem/ (article about puritanism as well as a debunk in another article saying children's media has a porn problem)

Last thread
https://archive.is/9WPtF
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 No.7696

>>7670
why they talk like that? why is talking like you have a age regression fetish somehow cool now

 No.7697

>>7686
whats up with gege writing bum characters that hoe themselves out to women for money kekk if i had a coin for everytime that happened Id have 2 coins.

 No.7701

>>7697
Maybe that was Gege's dream career, who knows at this point?



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 No.7133[Reply]

What are some characters that you find are misunderstood or changed by the fanbase? Either being bent to fulfil ships or just a critical lack of understanding from readers. Are there any fandom portrayals that got you to check out a series only for the ship/character to not be what you were expecting?
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 No.7608

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R/AO3 can be a little obnoxious at times but I do like threads like these:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1itksra/any_scene_in_a_fic_or_popular_characterization_in/
Because I can get a glimpse of the state of things in fandoms I otherwise would never have glanced at. It's pretty fascinating to look through. Especially the ones like picrel where they go on about a specific incarnation of a character that ultimately lead to a sort of spiral downward.

 No.7636

>>7608
Some of these fics would never exist if they'd at least read one spiderman comic .

 No.7649

>>7636
This!

The MCU has done a lot of harm to Peter's perception. Before that there was always the issue of a lot of Spider media leaning way to far into High School BS and having the character age only to keep reverting him, but at least the core elements are relatively consistent.

Peter is young and cocky, but also forced to grow up too fast due to dead caketakers, he is also usually works alone and is smart and strong enough to solve most issues with a few rotating confidants and other NY heros. Everything the MCU brought to the table with Tony Stark just ruins the core appeal of the character and makes him less relatable. With old characters like this people can of course try new things, but imo MCU Peter might as well be a different hero and doesn't have the same appeal at all.



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 No.4266[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread for ships that often get brought up as 'super gay' or are at least popular that you never got the vibe for, doesn't even have to be ships you dislike just ones that you never really got.

Starting off
>Only scene I thought was fujo was the rain scene with the foot polishing
>And it's not even in the manga
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 No.7391

>>7389
Soriku is a yaoi staple anon, it will find you. soon.

 No.7425

>>7382
>>7385
Okay but Sora is generally agreed to be uke right?

 No.7435

>>7425
Yes, I’m not even a kingdom hearts fan and I know that.



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 No.4[Reply]

Discuss and reminisce about the legendary shipping wars that happened in your time as a Fujo.
Examples:
>FrUK vs. USUK
>Makoharu vs. Rinharu
>Klance vs. Sheith
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 No.7407

>>7406
All of what I've seen lately has been in the same vein–het or f/f people fruitlessly trying to quash m/m through shame. The most amusing instance of this has been people acting like Sephiroth/Cloud is some new shit only freaks like and not a nearly thirty year old fujo staple. It's about as old as Spock/Kirk was when I first started getting into fandom!

 No.7408

>>7402
I can only think of cases where a gay pairing is disliked by people who ship one of the guys with a female character. On top of my head, I sometimes see JJK fans on my tl on twitter who ship either Gojo/Geto or Geto/Gojo arguing with Gojo/Utahime shippers because these ones like to start shit with them, allegedly at least. The people involved are mostly female fans, but sometimes I see male shonentards arguing that the main character of their favorite series has to end with the "heroine" of the series, so they were shitting all over bakudeku fans even more than usual because of the epilogue, but on the other hand they've been coping hardcore over JJK so they're delusional and saying things about how Megumi/Hana or Yuji/literal who from his class in middle school are canon. There's also whatever happened with the second season of Arcane but I have no context since I haven't watched the show, but it's another case of a gay pairing and a straight pairing involving the same guy so fans are arguing. I really can't think of recent gay ship wars.

 No.7410

>>7402
I expected my fandom to turn into a ship war after half of our ship got NTR'ed by a third man who is now together with the other half but I guess we're all just dirty fujos so we ended up shipping both at the same time, making threesomes or focus on one of the two ships but enjoy art with the respective other regardless.

High chance I wouldn't notice if there is a ship war anywhere, though. Believe it or not, I MISSED the Voltron ship war back then and only know it from complaints people have made years later, even though I was active in those years. Was obsessed with a game related ship and didn't notice anything else.



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