/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>12797
I like the idea of a failed-at-redemption Durge. Particularly with Ascended Astarion. All these collared elf girl Durges get the ascension dynamic completely wrong.

Think about it like this. Durge lands on the beach and has no memories, no idea of right and wrong but for his own urges. Then he meets Astarion and is immediately taken. A walking, unbreathing corpse with a beautiful face, cold skin, and still heartbeat. As they get closer, they bond over their shared bloodlust, two people who have never been mutually understood before and who accept eachothers true natures, and it's never a problem until Durge *almost* kills Astarion that night. And Astarion isn't even mad. Astarion comforts *him.* So now he doesn't want to be a threat to him anymore, so he does try to change.

And this works, up until the ascension. Immortality, power, no longer an animal of prey but able to protect himself— it seems like a good deal, until they talk after. My favourite line from Astarion in this scene is "I love you. Isn't that what you were waiting to hear?"
It is, in essence, and admission that he never loved Durge at all. All those close moments, the mutual understanding, it was all fake. A successful manipulation to make the overpowered dangerous lunatic keep him safe and do his dirty work for him. This betrayal would hit extra hard if Durge already left Bhaal, as he essentially gave up and betrayed everything he ever was for a lie.

But despite the hurt and the anger, Durge has always excelled at planning. He wants revenge. He hates him down to the bottom of his soul, but he can't kick his obsession. So he plays the long game. Accept the gift of vampirism, its essentially free immortality. Play pretend at beloved pet. And then at the end, when they're at the brain, Durge sees his chance.

Astarion may have control as his Master, but with control of the mind worms, Durge is faster. Durge makes the aware but helpless Astarion allow him to drink his blood, no longer a spawn. Astarion, after briefly glimpsing freedom and power and safety, is a slave again to a worse master. This gets rubbed in too.
So much arrogance, so much bragging, but deep inside Astarion was still deeply incapable because deep down, he's a helpless idiot who needs to rely on others. Everything he thought he achieved himself was just gift wrapped and given to him Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>12811
Astarion is a punching bag. No matter the ship (excluding bloodweave) I always see Astarion as a weakling. He can get physical strength and power, but mentally he is always going to be miserable. But he'll be able to cope with somebody yanking his chain. Durge however, is naturally dominant no matter the context. Even if you remove their urges, they're still controlling and take charge over everything. But I think elf girl users are not even reading the game's dialogue but seeing sexy, slightly bloody bondage kitten who will give up control for the one that they love (mischaracterize).

>>12813
Even in his happy ending where you're in a totally healthy relationship with spawn Astarion, he still needs your validation that you're not going to run off on him. Add onto that three hundred years of servitude with no personal autonomy and a fawn response towards danger, despite his intense desire for freedom he would be unbelievably easy to manipulate.
Even with a happy redeemed Durge/spawn Astarion ending, it is so obvious where the power gap lays.

Sadistic genius demi-god who is used to being worshipped and seeing people as toys vs deeply insecure ex-sex slave who spent the past ten years with no free will, having his entire personhood denied. I bet the post-game relationship drama is delicious.

It's just too bad most Durge/Astarion content is cute purple elf girls in collars. If anyone ever finds any fics that ACTUALLY nail their dynamic, I would love to see it.

>>12719
>when I do like a gacha ship/character the bloated cast makes it so that there’s never enough focus or detail on my faves so I can never call it “good food”.
Yeah, waiting years for new story development that is not even guaranteed to happen is tough but sometimes it does come and feels very rewarding, if the game is played causally than waiting don't feel too bad.
I have a backlog of anime that I'm slowly getting though but I feel like I watched most older stuff that is instantly appealing to me in my first 10 years of obsessively watching anime, now I'm just getting a bite here and there.
I really want more anime originals… Good ones…

>>12712
yoi was popular in Japan too lol. also I know you’re mainly talking about lasting popularity but popularity is always relative. you name undertale as an example but there are a surprising amount of people who have never even heard of it yet of course know about mario or donkey kong. this of course doesn’t mean that undertale isn’t popular. you have to take niches and audience categories (age, sex, country) in account.

>>12700
Especially Hoyoverse. But the problem is there's no new anime that fills that long running speculative niche for fujos anymore. I get wanting to be into something ongoing and popular since it's an easy way to find people, and getting into an older show means you'll have less people to talk to.
The reason I hate Hoyoverse is because they treat fujos like shit and only give the barest of crumbs because they know fujos don't need much, while they prioritize their incel audience. Gacha games are so bad now that the bare minimum Hoyoverse does is considered a lot, and they don't even know about the better yaoi dyanmics in other games since those games are either gatekept to Japan or admittedly have shit gameplay that won't pull new players. But I hate Hoyoverse because they play it so safe with all their characters that it's hard for me to like them. The ships also stagnate into one or two simple tropes because Hoyoverse sucks at developing their male characters. It's all potential and hype but they never deliver on any of it. I'm not expecting their games to be edgy and depressing, I'm not a grimdarkfag. My favorite type of anime are spokons where the power of friendship and teamwork win out. But even those ordinary characters and their conflicts felt more interesting than anything Hoyoverse makes. I dunno. I feel like it's a case of people sticking to only what they know which is the more popular shit and everyone just likes basic simple junk food tropes because most media doesn't have the time or space to develop complex dynamics anymore. It all feels like a corporate suit looking at popular tropes than actually trying to write dynamic characters first and then the shipping naturally emerges from that.

>>12736
This is the same shit as when they banned historical court dramas from being too lavish. They don't want people in lower social status to admire wealth and luxury, because what if these women stop working on conveyor belts doing intricate manual tasks.

>>12739
That's quite naive. The only reason they haven't banned underground media yet is because they are unaware of it. As soon as they learn about it, they will ban it as well.

>>12736
Moids will never stop being mad at women's hobbies and fantasies.

>>12729
He's adorable Nona!

>>12729
He's so cute!! When I go back to drawing I'm definitely making fanart of him ♡

>>12729
I thought this was Sora Roxas fusion fanart at first. Beautiful.

>>12643
Idk I think it's disgusting people are sexualizing her because the game looks so realistic it crosses a bit of a line for me. Like don't have an issue with lolisho, but I do think you're gross if you like this girl like that.

>>12660
Ayrt and I agree with you on that, she's way too realistic. I just think a lot of people are exaggerating.

>>12643
>>12660
Her character design still has an edge of 'anime' that blurs the line a bit, but as we get more realistic graphics it becomes harder to argue. The original tweet is being insane about it though. Imagine equating someone expressing wonder about a new experience to nothing more than a fetish. If you can accuse something of 'bar for bar' being that content, then you've clearly exposed yourself to quite a bit of it.

>>12385
Are you stupid, every other black woman I know is either studying or used to study korean, no one dick rides their culture the way black women do, be real

>>12457
that anon is probably stuck in the 90s where blacks and koreans had beef with each other.

>>12459
I think it depends where you are, but there's still some hostility between asian and black populations in the US. Hate crime statistics back this up.

>>12453
I feel bad for them sometimes but then its like… do they really think their nasty boyfriends think they're men? Sis! He's with you because you're easy. Stop clogging up my search results with hetslop!

>>12454
This is THE tourist ship.

>>12455
Not into Dungeon Meshi, but isn't there a thousand more interesting problematic ships? even het ones like Laios and his sister? and the brown dude x elf like you said?

>>12456
thats exactly why this ship is so popular, especially among western fans. Its the relatively least problematic ship of them all, second only to LaiosXMarchille which they condemn because they insist Marcille is a lesbian (shes not). Even Toudencest is better than Labru. I tried to get into it during my read and i just couldnt.

>>12562
And what? Ignore the elephant in the room about the fujo community? Let the real problem take over while everywhere else has been co-opted by these mentally ill freaks that want to bully women into creating what they want? To take the definition of words and pervert them into their delusions? Get real.

>>12563
>>12564
You have threads for this. Multiple of them. You don't need to hijack other threads.

I’ve read every buck hughes/keith ramsey fics ten times over, no matter how bad it is. I can count the fan art i’ve seen of them one hand… WHY?? its such a good ship. I beg ubisoft REMASTER IT. I WILL BUY ALL YOUR SHITTY GAMES. I don’t care how bad it is, just please attract more fujos to it. Call me a fake fan I DONT CARE

>>11991
Most people simply scroll past posts they don't like. People with all kinds of opinions have the same right to post here as you do.

>>11994
female characters are fictional, people should be uncomfortable about people shitting on fujos and fangirls in general not fictional characters kek
Virtue signalers i swear to god.

>>11808
>>11833
>>11969
In my experience, a lot of the "love" yumes and generic hetshippers have for female characters is entirely performative and most of their time goes into weaponizing them to moralize against fujos rather than actually enjoying the characters themselves. Like they claim to be the biggest fan and protector of female character x, but in the end the only time they talk about her is just fluff without substance or to whine about fujos not respecting her supposedly amazing writing. Most fujos are either indifferent or at least respectful towards female characters, no great enthusiasm one way or another because their focus is on the male ship, yet pixel feminists use their indifference as proof of their hatred. I specifically can't stand it when they do this to female characters that are explicitly created by men for male coom and argue that it doesn't matter because the character in question is "totally like them IRL" so hating her means you're hating her personally and thus all women.

>>11811
lmao, what an origin story. Do you think the windshield fluid somehow injected you with the fujo fantasies or were you just that bored? I like bully/victim pairings too, but it feels like a little utilized trope in published works…

>>11814
unfortunately it's probably the latter kek, as funny as it would be if windshield washer were a fujo transformation potion. As for the bully/victim works, you're right, I don't see them a lot…But tastes change with age too so not really looking for them either. I remember enjoying Caste Heaven around the mid-2010s or so, afair it had some shuffling around with bully/victim power dynamics.