No.14225
Have you guys heard of the Peter Pan yumes at DisneyLand horror stories? A yume had husbando Peter Pan and she kept going to disneyland to pretend to go on dates with him for YEARS.
This sparked multiple stories of yumes obsessed with other characters like Luke Skywalker and Gaston.
No.14227
>>14225I remember hearing about a case like that years ago but I didn't know it's happened multiple times.
No.14229
>>14219>the other high budget games for women are all otome that need to specify that the men are all straightHas any one other than LADS actually done this?
No.14230
>>14229nayrt, maybe Diabolik Lovers? I honestly can't think of any off the top of my head that are ultra budget and expressly directed to women.
No.14232
>>14225Gaston? At least they should have a crush on characters who aren't annoying and ugly at the same time, damn.
No.14233
>>14231I've heard about this phenomenon and it's so weird, I can't imagine being chased through the park and being forced to stay in-character while people are harassing you.
>>14232Shit taste, he's fun. If Disney does one thing right it's their villians.
No.14234
>>14233There's social media disney goers who do nothing but visit the actors every day.
I saw one who constantly harasses Megatron in Universal. He calls her by name.
I can't tell if he's happy to do the bit or groans off the mic before she shows up because this was a daily activity for her in 2025. Pic is for height difference.
No.14620
Honestly, I feel sympathy for & relate to yumes to an extent (not the super-uber autismo no-sharing ones) as I also feel intense rage at many ships/shippers of things other than my OTP(s), and there's no way to rationalize that intense anger besides taking a walk kek. Obviously what they do to fujos is not okay (just as raging at random shippers minding their business is not okay), but I do get them as one person overly invested in media to another.
No.14629
>>14620I can comprehend it to some extent, although my rage towards NOTPs usually stems from mischaracterization / fandom over-abundance unlike other (better or more interesting ships) or simply because it's shit but yume autism is usually because the character they like is 'being gay' or not shipped with themselves. Let's forget the 'i don't like when my husbando is gay' thing for a second, how do you deal with a husbando that canonically has an actual love interest in the story though? Every so often you will nonetheless see art of them be it official or unofficial, are you gonna get mad?
I guess you could say that this same argument may apply to fujos, but fujos don't inherently see themselves as being desired by (the character they ship), I've found that some of them can tolerate canon relationships but simply ignore it for fanon. For yumes… I dunno, how do you live with the fact that the (character) interacts with other characters that are not you? Or that (You, the OC) doesn't exist?
No.14740
I think there are two wildly recognizable types of self inserters in fandom, and there seems to be a generational gap between them.
The older type of self inserter (often millennial women or older Zoomers) is the typical suave, shoujo minded fan who is primarily interested in romance. She tends to see almost everything through the lenses of romance and relationships, even when romance is not necessarily the main focus of the work. She loves having her self insert being adored and treated either like a baby or a goddess, depending on the mood. Her online presence is often mostly centered around talking about her self insert, how great she is and how tragic it is that people don't love her enough, how misunderstood she is if she is disliked and why other people fail to see how special she is. The focus is usually on emotional validation, romantic attention, being chosen by the male mc basically validates them.
Then there is the second type of people that self insert that is the younger Zoomer TikTok fanbase. They primarily turn the character into a very modern accepted thing, typically either a trans or nonbinary person, sometimes giving them trans scars or something similar. The character is often rebellious but relatable, and their personality is reshaped to reflect self-expression, trauma, and social issues.
No.14741
>>14740Type 2 is still type 1, the emotional validation from canon characters aspect is just as strong except now it's headcanons about how your comfort character accepts your gender identity and whatnot. Aside from the weird trend of jokes like 'this character would call you a slur' which I can only assume is some kind of M thing if they are actually into it.
No.14744
I noticed that some of these yumes who really hate fujos tend to have pickmeish tendencies. There's this one lads fan I found on twitter (who's also married btw) that constantly seethes about them and calls them cucks and she once had a pfp of some anime girl with her boobs out. She also sided with some gamergate moid before defending sexualized female designs and she follows male coomers along with a self-proclaimed alt right moid. Like it just makes the misogynistic fujo accusations more ironic when you have people like these.
No.14748
>>14744in my experience it's usually the opposite, like yumes that think jerking off their self inserts 24/7 is feminist activism, and call misogynist anyone that doesn't like or doesn't ship the relatonship they are projecting into.
No.14749
>>14744Sounds like a schizo.
No.14750
Seen some yumes say that women who don't self-insert are low self-esteem because you don't think you deserve a handsome man lol
No.14751
>>14750Very few anime men have the type of personality, shared interests and overall well-adjustedness and stability that would actually make them appeal to me if they existed in RL. Seeing how Sasuke/Sakura turned out, if somebody is saying that they deserve Sasuke, I am concerned for their self-respect.
No.14752
>>14750Yumes saying shit like that always make me laugh because I’m someone whose favorite characters are usually dudes who would be absolutely awful to interact with IRL or straight up dangerous characters like murderous assassins lol.
No.14753
>>14750This just sounds like projection, that's probably why so many yumes either sexualize their self-inserts or even have ugly husbandos themselves. They just can't seem to understand that not everyone enjoys self inserting and I say this as someone who's also a yume.
>>14751Yeah a lot of popular husbandos are really toxic, mine is too even though he's hot af.
No.14755
>>14629I agree our sources of anger are different but I do still sometimes see the trve yumes who don't necessarily hate yaoi ships (and sometimes even repost art of them) they hate the way their fave is flanderized in them. I know one who loves any art where her fave is brutalized so she can appreciate fujos more than fellow yumes for that alone.
>how do you deal with a husbando that canonically has an actual love interest in the story though? Often projecting onto her if she's bland enough or a non-character, yknow those characters that basically just exist so the male character can have a kid. I think yumes more often than not do this unless she's enough of a character that they completely write her out of the story (or back in my PJO days they would make her a complete bitch who hated y/n kek).
>are you gonna get mad?They just crop her out tbh, draw their self-insert over her, or are normal and can deal with seeing art of that.
>I've found that some of them can tolerate canon relationships OT but I've found this is such a cop out, I love to write around canon het relationships or if they're dysfunctional/underdeveloped see how they would be in reality post-canon and how they would slowly fall apart while the ship I like fall together. Or sometimes the gay ship is just angst, forever unspoken, either way I don't get why people just ignore it completely.
>Or that (You, the OC) doesn't exist?I'm not a yume but if anything I think the fact that *they* are a real person that exists while everything else is fiction is how a lot of them cope. The only real thing that matters is them & their desires and it's not like the FMC has any autonomy since she's just pixels/words on a page, similar logic to fujos and shipping non-canon ships (it doesn't matter what the pixels want, what matters is what the real person who likes those pixels wants).
No.14756
>>14750>women who don't self-insert are low self-esteem because you don't think you deserve a handsome man lolI never understood that. Why do narcissists who need to be babied by drawings think they can lecture anybody on low self esteem? Is there literally no other reason why somebody wouldn't enjoy self inserting?
No.14760
>>14759Dang, she really that delulu, yaoiphobic much? XD
No.14761
>>14759>three different variants of "i hate yaoi"Lol obsessed
No.14762
>>14759>clark kent yumethere is almost no gay shipping with superman aside from him being shipped with Batman but it's super rare so I don't get it.
No.14763
>>14762Don't people also ship him with Lex Luthor because of Smallville?
No.14765
>>14763Also the literal gay baby between him and Lex in the comics
No.14768
I'm a bit of a yume but I don't understand "self insertion". Why would I have to "insert" myself to be valid? Is it a self esteem thing with them? Same with the "self shipping" term, it sounds so retarded. If you love them, just love them? Why make it a "self shipping" thing?
Unrelated I also hate when yumes draw their sonas into official screenshots and they stick out like fugly sore thumbs. You can draw all the original art you want of you and your love, just stop ruining official art lol. At least have the courtesy to study the official art style. I know we're all autists here but most are REALLY bad at art too, they have terrible understanding of proportions and shapes. It's like a 9yo's first time on Microsoft Paint
No.14770
>>5538Who else watched the Kuroshitsuji 2 OVA for yumes? I did and at first I was like "Oh this is just yume cringe" but I started liking it more and more and then in the end when Sebastian was telling me to bark like a little dog I really liked it and I barked irl.
Also during the Emerald Witch Arc when Frau Sulivan thought she was getting a threesome with Ciel and Sebastian I was like "GOD I WISH I WAS IN HER PLACE".
I'm a fujo but with some yume tendencies because I have never had a boyfriend and had a depression and was in isolation for most of my life. Normal people aren't yumes. Yumes are cancer. All yumes should be killed me included.
No.14773
>>14770it's okay keep some information private
No.14778
>>14770Kek. In a way, I support you and don't want you dead, nonna.
No.14781
>>14744>gamergate>sexualized female designsIs this 2014 nonna?
>>14748IME I find yumes are more prudish and fujoshi are anti-censorship despite roasting coomerbait.
No.14782
>>14781>yumes are more prudishAlso ime I've seen anti-fujo yumes have superiority complexes over not being porn-addicted unlike fujos according to them.
No.14783
>>14781>>147829 times out of 10 when I come across a yume they're moralfags. Fujo moralfags exist too but yumes are almost always prudish and hate things they deem problematic.
No.14786
>>14763oh yeah I completely forgot about Lex, because he is bald he was off my radar I guess lol
>>14769I do wonder if there are any Joker yumes, I know Harley is sideshipped with Ivy for the most part now.
No.14787
Seeing this thread again reminded me of the time I saw a yume's post on twitter where she said she actively ignores her husbando's canon close friendship with another male character and pretends the other character doesn't exist because he triggers her. How do these people claim to "love" their husbandos if they can't even handle their canon selves? Erasing other characters because you're jealous of pixels and can't stand the idea of him caring about something that isn't you?
No.14788
>>14787I mean I ignore canon female love interests
No.14789
>>14788I think ignoring is one thing, but completely deny the character existing or (in the case of) being important to that character is a bit silly.
Not that anon but I imagine that there's a difference between "I don't like (character)" and ignoring them but another genuinely erase them entirely. There's ships and characters I vehemently despise but I acknowledge that character 'exists', I just don't care about them
No.14838
This is gonna sound rude but I genuinely could give less than a rat's ass about people's ocs that are tied to a canon franchise. Not even just because of the narcissism aspect but it's also just cringey and nobody wants to see your random character generator oc when they're trying to look for fanart of a specific character. There's this one person on twitter who makes fanart of her self-insert and husbando from a popular series that always gets thousands of likes (which are probably out of pity) when her art isn't even good along with the unfunny humor.
No.14840
>>14838I like OCs if they're well written/drawn and genuinely interesting, but mostly they're just self-ship/yume justification and thus suck.
No.14859
>>14838I personally never had a problem with OCs even when they are cringe, because a lot of times people are genuinely trying and you can see the creativity, there are oc that are better designed too and happen to have more interesting ideas than some of the characters in canon.
Who I dislike is the ones that use existing female characters as blatant self inserts so they can the canon girlfriend of the male character they are simping for.
You see horny posting yumes saying ohh this male character loves to kiss this female character's neck, when in canon they never even holded hands lol
>>14840Same exactly.
No.14860
OCs vary for me. It honestly depends how they are designed and their role in the IP they're being shoved into. If they are meant to become the lover of an existing character, I tend to dislike them on principle, but if they are a supportive or even a lead role as an observer or even an antagonist, I'm willing to open my mind to them. Even OC children of canon characters I'm generally fine with. It's all about the intent for me
No.14892
>Someone hating on a ship I like
>Check their profile
>Yume yumefagging for the most popular emo boy of the fandom
>Their entire feed is filled with unhinged seething over m/m and f/f ships of the fandom and "fandom queerios"
>Every post is the kind of edgy autistic rage you'd see on Lolcow
If this kind of mental illness ever gets me too I want to be put down immediately, holy cringe