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Post shit in BL that you hate.
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>>2 No.8134
>>8133That is indeed lesbianism with extra fucking steps.
No.8143
>>8133reminds me of this vash the stampede animation, someone uploaded it on mrm and it was basically just lesbian sex
the video also got taken down like 2 days after lol
turns out the creator was a tif aswell
No.8144
>>8133This isn't even good lesbianism.
No.8145
>>8143>the video also got taken down like 2 days after lolthe homogooners at MRM can be alright sometimes, if only they did this for trapshit too
No.8164
>>8163Jason is tge edgiest little bastard and whenever I see something like this I just assume people are self conscious of their "problematic fav"
No.8169
>>8163Yeah I hate all of that shit lel, including genderbending. I assume it's mentally ill people doing it that have some anti-male paranoia despite being het so they have to fluff everything down to a lgbt-friendly uwu girl because otherwise the character would be scary or something. Cannot relate.
No.8175
>>8169don't really have a problem with genderbending, as long as the reverse gender version feels similar to their original self
No.8178
>>8175It's fine as speculative fan art, but you couldn't get me to read a doujin or fanfic of yuribending.
No.8190
>>8178I was referring to turning the female love interest into a whiny male uke, that's hot
No.8469
>>8408Why do people still make CCS fanwork
No.8472
>>8469Why wouldn't they? It's a classic and beloved by people from all around the world. A lot of the outfits are pretty cute/iconic too, so I can see why people still draw it.
Aside from the pedo stuff/age gaps, there's barely any problematic content in the series, as far as I remember. I'm a CCS/CLAMP fan, so I'm biased tho.
No.8473
>>8472Clampfags unite! CCS also brought us YueTouya so while I prefer their edgier and gayer works I can't complain.
>>8469No offense but I don't even understand why this would be a question, shows from the 70s are getting new fan art it's not like there is a time limit for how long after a show you are allowed to be a fan. Also a weird one to call out might as well ask why people still make Sailor Moon or Inuyasha art.
No.8478
>>8477Wrong, Jayce and Viktor are canonically built like that
No.8480
>>8478They're a middle ground between those two
No.8481
>>8474Transformers Megop
The size difference varies per series but the bottom is always the designated female. Down to the anatomy. Does Optimus Prime have a shapely body, yes. But you'd think he weighed 40 pounds of silicon from how the fandom draws him.
It's all incredibly dumb because OP's still a 35ft robot made of absurd metal muscle. You have to go out of your way to slim him down to not resemble someone who can single highhandedly stop a human sized tank. Fortnite aside. Drives me insane because the whole appeal of giant robots is that they look like giant robots, not human women.
No.8482
>>8480Came here to post this
No.8483
>>8481Not megastar? Though I suppose in prime it was legit that meme
No.8484
>>8483Goes for every TF ship honestly especially James Robert's m/f in disguise comic.
Not a single pairing of equal heights or close to body type or shape. I like varied heights, but it was all traditional m/f with him and made way worse by fans. See Cygate.
I hate TFP Megastar because you could swap SS with arcee and there would hardly be a difference. Megastar's up there as one of my favorite pairings, but the fandom looks at their bodies and ignores any dynamic that isn't "big man top, thin bottom is a woman." And to that, I tend to focus on KOSS. Both of the bots match now.
No.8485
>>8484Smh, you’re not getting the battered wife appeal that it brings…
>but it was all traditional m/f with him and made way worse by fans. See Cygate.I thought they were lesbian loli coded because of their holoforms.
No.8486
>>8485The thing is- I want battered housewife Screamer. From G1 to Earthspark, I think it's a great relationship. But there's a limit to the over feminization of his character where everyone is yelling GET PREGNANT/SPARKED and making him literally into a woman. All she does is nag, whine, and want to have children with Megatron.
That's my problem.
There is no recognition that Megatron kept him around because he's smart, strong, and could actually fuck him (on the battlefield) if he let his guard down. There's no resistance. No scheming. No pettiness that makes his character, he's just a baby maker with a vagina. KOSS, oddly enough, doesn't have that problem despite Knock Out being every gay stereotype from 2006-2010. He could have done drag in the series (I mean he did drag race) and it would not have broken his character.
But for some reason, he isn't hit with the girl beam. Even in KoBd, he's beefed up. I don't get it. So by extension, so is SS.
No.8487
>>8486>But there's a limit to the over feminization of his character where everyone is yelling GET PREGNANT/SPARKED and making him literally into a woman.This is making me wish I still had that “you gonna light that pipe?” comic edit where it was Megs and Screamer kek (also reminds me of this)
I ship Overlord and Trepan though so I’m really not one to speak on this matter…
>he isn't hit with the girl beam. He’s too sassy gay to be the woman in the relationship, you can’t really write a woman like how you would write a sassy gay man but you can absolutely write Starscream into a nagging harpy if you really wanted to.
No.8488
>>8487If you haven't, the Aligned novels are great for how much thought is put into character building. Its focused near singularly on OP, Meg and Alpha Trion, but I love reading SS's moments because he comes off as legitimately wanting to kill Meg at every opportunity. I want them to hate each other, but in a bitter old marriage variety.
(I strongly recommend Exiles first before Covenant)
But because of the fandom specifically, I gravitate towards unheard of pairings or characters that don't have the biggest fandom behind them. Because the fans of the character are insanely more likely to keep them as is and explore or dig into who they are vs Jazzprowl, Rodisound, Dratchet.
The further you go from the fandom favs, the more you get how they look in canon even within fanfic(a particular Megasound fic upset me so much I almost ended up giving up on them)
No.8574
>>8488I never understood why people liked JazzProwl. It's still a crack pairing to me and I don't care about crack ships or I might as well ship fandom OC. A story needs close ties to the canon plot for me to care. Especially since self-indulgent stories tend to be continuity soups or fluff and I ignore everything that is a continuity soup, not just for TF.
>>8474Oh yeah, the het shippers in disguise. I hate feminization. If I liked it I would watch moe shit and idol series.
No.8575
>>8573Holy shit that explains a lot. I used to be more into Harry/Draco but recently I was just less interested and started excluding bottom Draco and top Harry tags on ao3 and preferring Draco/Harry. My brain subconsciously noticed the shift. I just thought my tastes must have changed or something.
No.8576
>>8575>started excluding bottom Draco and top Harry tags on ao3 and preferring Draco/HarryMe too. I'm decades removed from being super into HP but when I'm in a fanfic mood I always go check the tag and like everything after 2020 is tall, dark, and Desi Harry with effete twink Draco. I wonder who shifted the fic meta toward this?
No.8577
>>8573In the inverse is even funnier
Never got that into HP though outside of Cedric Diggory (mostly just because he’s played by Robert Pattinson)
No.8699
I hate immortal x mortal ships when it's not played for pure angst. I'm talking about when a series casually mentions one of the characters will live forever, and the implications of that character's immortality are never further discussed. It stresses me out so much, it's kind of pathetic of me kek. It's not a problem if the story is angsty or something, but when the story doesn't address it, it drives me up a wall. I also get super stressed out when they leave it ambiguous as to whether one of the characters is immortal or not. Tell me outright, please! I like the idea of character aging together and eventually dying, so "happy endings" where a character's immortality isn't sufficiently addressed always feel hollow in an unintentional way.
No.8700
>>8699>I hate immortal x mortal ships when it's not played for pure angstI think you will enjoy The Djinn (Chinese manhua translated in EN). The angst drives the entire story.
No.8701
>>8700Thank you! I've never heard of it, but I've been looking for something to get into recently. Angsty stories are right up my alley.
No.8702
>>8701Hopefully it'll fit your requirements lol.
I realised the existing translations excluded the extras, but I thought the extras rounded up the immortalxmortal theme nicely. Linking them below in case you miss them out:
Extra 1:
https://afdian.com/album/76a5c216befa11eb8a2852540025c377/dbc99f32379d11eebb1052540025c377Extra 2:
https://weibo.com/3029644661/P5DJwmzFP No.8705
>>8704god I feel like this all the time, even worse when people try to be "neutral" like 'I don't care about topbottom discourse and it's all the same to me'
No.8706
>>8705I find the neutral ones more annoying than the reverse shippers. At least the reverse shippers understand that there *IS* a characterization/vibe difference between X/Y and Y/X
(and they just picked the wrong one ┐(￣ヮ￣)┌). No.8707
>>8705>>8706I raise pretentious switchfags as the most annoying, especially the ones that believe reversible ships are activism or some shit and that having a strict dynamic is fetishistic.
No.8708
>>8707what do you call activism in this case?
No.8709
>>8706>>8707IMO the order doesn't matter as long as they are in character. So like if you have for instance and obsessive fan boy character lusting after his superior you can have him degrade himself and let himself be used by the boss, or you can have him take his obsession too far and come onto his boss for some dubcon.
The most annoying stories are ones where people see a perceived dynamic like bad boy/nerd and warp the characters into caricatures.
No.8710
>>8705I'm sorry, nonas. I'll admit I'm a part of the Neutral Menace, but it's not because I think X/Y and Y/X are the same. I am fully aware they're different, and that's part of the fun. In one of my ships, I can't see either of them wanting to top, so I think they have to take turns. Alternatively, due to their personalities, it's very easy to see it working either way. In another case, I think one dynamic makes more sense, but it's the less popular dynamic, so I've had to learn to adapt and appreciate the opposing dynamic
even though my preferred dynamic makes way more sense from a characterization standpoint for this ship. For this couple, I've learned why others see it the opposite way, and it's given me a new appreciation for the different ways they can be written. I think it depends a lot on how the characters are written, and as long as they're not OOC, I'm just happy to see my favorite characters together in any capacity lol.
No.8711
>>8709>the order doesn't matter as long as they are in characterThis is how I feel. I don't want the character on the bottom to suddenly lose all their competence and turn into a pile of uke jelly while the character topping becomes an asshole, I won't enjoy that no matter what the order is. I also find arbitrary 'rules' like who pursues and initiates actions first exhausting, stuff like this often gets tied to dynamic.
I'm currently into a ship that I genuinely see making the most sense as switching or taking turns and in my eyes, the hardline AxB and BxA have the wrong opinion :^) (not to mention that other people who don't care about dynamic usuallly do the best characterization and like the characters equally, meanwhile BxA people in particular are mostly just very horny for A and so want him to bottom, with B, my fave, being more of an afterthought. I don't think they're having deep thoughts about dynamic here, it's just 'fave guy takes it in the ass')
No.8712
>>8707Those people make my blood boil. They have such an holier than thou attitude and make shipping a fucking morality statement. I'd argue they're a subset of the neutral category
>>8708NTA but your question sounds so disingenuous. Activism in the fandom sense, making posts how it's "realistic" and "not fetishistic" to make characters switch. All written smugly while making the strict shipping dynamic-fags seem like crazies who can't seem to be open-minded and have fallen prey to evil fetishistic mlm fetishizing, unlike them!
They sealion a lot too. "I'm just asking why it has to be like that?? I like switch so I don't get it! Explain!!"