No.7266
>>7264It's just in poor taste. Queerbaiting is another term that has a similar history but the ship has long sailed on that one. 'Ironic homophobia' is cool with the kiddies now, they're throwing around every slur in the book as a meme, with a lot of genuine homophobes hiding behind this (especially towards fujo ships, we're literally back in the 00s where everyone was happy to shit on us openly)
When I see pushback it's mostly from older people in fandom who are telling them the history of this term, because many have no idea. I'm aware that most people on an imageboard are not going to give a shit about this, but still.
>someone literally diedIt never exactly stopped. 'Gay panic' murder still happens across the world, that's why it's poor taste to turn it into a cutesy fanfic term. Is it really that hard for people to think of something else that doesn't have an unfortunate connotation? Think about how twitter tried its hardest to redefine 'fujoshi' to mean 'straight woman who ~fetishizes~ the gays in harmful ways and calls herself rotten because she's sinning!'. Terms losing their meaning due to ignorance benefits nobody.
No.7356
I usually prefer another character first when I start a new series but always end up being obsessed with sidekicks and underlings later, I don't know why lol
Maybe because the role feels gay on principle? If a man sticks to another man of a slightly higher position than himself and loyally sides with him, helps him or serves him as his willful assistant and friend the role is gay-coded to begin with.
I also love them because they're usually not arrogant or self-righteous, since they're happy being the right-hand man and/or friend. They're intriguing too IMO because they are introduced as allegedly one-note or shady tertiary characters but then you learn new things about them and realize you misjudged them completely (assuming it's a decent series that gives them a personality). And I usually end up liking the characters more that I initially underestimated. Feels good loving someone more as the series progresses, instead of getting tired or disappointed of them.
Anyway I am a side-kick/servant fanatic.
What a weird preference to have. I wish it was more common, but you sometimes find them among the antagonists or rivaling factions.
No.7369
>>7356I'm the same exact way, I never get into the hero/villain dynamic it's always the bad guy/his bodyguard. Depending on if its a serious show or a cartoony Saturday morning cartoon you can also have a couple of different tones. Like H/C where the main villian is downtrodden because he keeps failing, or in serious works you can have an abusive or self-destructive angle where the bodyguard is being hurt by association with the criminal but chooses to stay because of feelings.
No.7381
Something about the sight of an uke nutting all over his own chest gives me a dopamine rush.
No.7400
>>7381>>7395Is the appeal humiliation or something else?
No.7401
>>7400I guess it's a form of humiliation? The uke had a good time but then could get embarrassed about it being all over him and he can't blame the other guy for it entirely cause it's his own cum.
No.7422
>>7400Humiliation, loss of control
No.7564
>>7562Reminds me of how you're not supposed to scratch your pet parrot anywhere else than their head lest you trigger unwanted hormonal behaviors.
No.7581
I love violence. I loved the first volume of Sneaky Red. I want to draw men getting beat on and crying and hurt. Reading about it turns me on so bad, and I love the way the author of that draws the bruises just right. I wish she would do more manga on the same subject, but oh well haha
No.7621
>>7611Same nonna same
king kong and the ang lee hulk movie changed me as a kid No.7700
>>7581I finished this one just now since I too am a fellow certified violence enjoyer and I was a bit sad it didn't continue past volume 1…BDSM scenes aren't the same
No.7702
>>7700Ah I know right? I skimmed the second vol and felt a little disappointed lmao.. Still plan on reading it though because it's only 1 more, might as well
No.7809
>>7788Based me too. I noticed that even the characters that aren't drawn with them look better on fanart if you hint the cheekbones. It just gives the shape a more three-dimensional and slightly more angled face which makes them sexy.
On a related note I also like when they have a chin and nose opposed to a point and a dot with little shadow.
No.7896
>>7893i like BL for many reasons. one is that i'm attracted to men, and came to terms with my attraction to women much later, after my taste in media had already solidified. i think that female characters are often very uninspiring, so that doesn't help me getting invested in them.
also, i already know women can be emotionally vulnerable, more open-minded about sexuality, and hot, since these concepts applied to females are pushed down everybody's throat on the daily. when it comes to the same thing with men though, it has a novelty factor with higher stakes, so it feels more romantic and exciting to me
No.7897
>>7893I think anime guys are appealing and I like that their relationships will never have certain elements that are present in hetero relationships like pregnancy. I do like het ships sometimes but my true love will always be BL.
No.7899
>>7893It often stems from divorcing myself away from expectations placed on society from straight relationships. Don't get me wrong some of my favourite media involves them but I like to indulge in a fantasy where I can explore romance that is seperate from my gender. It also helps it's for a female audience niche.
No.7901
>>7893It's comfort food. In any other genre/set up you're not guaranteed moe with male characters, and in a series with a female protagonist there's usually a barrier between her and the man because different genders and appropriate behavior. When it's two dudes there's twice the opportunity for male moe and people tend to write them with way less distance between them. They can just be without all the social hang ups of treating each other like different species that straight couples get. It's a fantasy space where that awkwardness doesn't exist.
No.7940
>>7893I like it because I get to see men being emotionally expressive in non-heteronormative ways. It’s endearing to see anime men dancing, laughing, crying and kissing (other men), it triggers the Moe deep in my kokoro. It’s also nice to see men sexualized for a female audience for… Obvious reasons. And what’s better than one sexy guy? Two, of course!
Three if you're really ambitiousThere’s something special about BL that het doesn’t capture. I think it’s the camaraderie the boys can have since they’re not as restrained by gender differences, alongside the stories being more action-based than typical het and even yuri romance (at least in the stuff I like). And naturally, women are already very cute and sexualized everywhere you go; the reverse has much more novelty to me.
No.8013
>>7976Anon just casually describing yaoi heaven!! What more do you like nona? I'm curious!
>Internalized homophobia.We need more of this please!
No.8064
>>8036Agree, though not so much about the sex as it is about the mentsl internal struggle if you're willing to go against your personal morals for thr other guy.
No.8078
>>8077>ugly bastard vibes without being hideousExplain please, I don't get it at all.
No.8082
>>8078NTA but I think she means the personality of an ugly bastard but not the physical appearance of one?
No.8083
>>8077>>8078>ugly bastard vibes without being hideousLike a cute loser boy? I get it. I want to see more 2D incels take dick
No.8089
>>8083>2D incels taking dickany recs?? id love too see more of this but i havent really found anything
No.8090
>>8082Yup, maybe he was once super ugly but he still acts like a loser. Or he's not classically handsome but looks rapeable under his dull/creepy air
>>8083Same, incels are made to be raped by other men. I especially love it if they're obsessed with the pretty seme and there's some riba early on.
No.8092
>>8090I can dig this, there’s a couple of sweaty otaku types that I’m into and they gave me a stinky boy fetish.
>>8091This but I want Adachi to top, give the incel some much needed hole.
No.8096
>>8092Personally I like him getting fucked by Doujima, but I can see him topping when he loses the persona (heh).
No.8116
I love twincest so much but not too crazy about selfcest, help!
No.8130
>>8119They were so cute
I’ll never not be bitter about hideyoshi hogging all the merch when yoshii kun was so much cuter