No.16
>>13When one of them has long hair. I also love black haired characters
No.21
>>19>my guilty pleasure is stories about brothers having a potentially secret, scandalous and unhealthy relationshipsame
to quote the wise women of old: incest is wincest
No.22
>>17>i'll sometimes read shojo manga with an ultra-flat protagonist and just use my reality-bending fujo mindpowers to make her into a boyIncredibly based.
No.23
>>19>gavincestMY NIGGA!
Though you might have already read this, check this fic out anyway:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/870032It's old so you know it's gold kek
As for me, I really like love triangles. My almonds get especially activated if it's two semes arguing over an uke.
No.24
>>19Samefagging but here's another one that's less explicit and briefly mentions the potentially scandalous aspect of their relationship:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/2557349 No.25
>>23>My almonds get especially activated if it's two semes arguing over an ukesame. but i also don't think i've ever seen a series that rotated around two ukes fighting over a seme
No.33
>>23>>24Thanks for the link, I'll check these fanfics later though because I'm working right now. What's the source for this fanart? I can't find it and I need more Kristoph/Klavier and Klavier/Apollo in my life.
No.36
>>19salary men in their 40's w erectile dysfunction + divorced is a fave trope of mine.
loser boys in general, because damn it's nice to see pathetic moids getting screwed.
No.37
>>33Sorry anon but I don't know I got it off of pinterest. Looks like the artist nuked their twitter ;-;
No.39
>>37That's also what I saw. That's too bad, but thanks for posting it.
No.40
>>36>salary men in their 40's w erectile dysfunctionBased, you should read Oni to Tengoku, the MC has erectile dysfonction but only with women.
No.41
>>40i adore that one + the sequel. it's everything i could ever ask for
No.44
>>19>brothers having a potentially secret, scandalous and unhealthy relationshipi love this trope so much, god damn. wholesome sibling relationships are great and all, but there's something about the perversion of brotherly love and intimacy that just gets me every single time. especially when one or both of them are aware that this is definitely not okay, but they just can't help themselves. bonus points if there's twincest involved.
>>23>two semes arguing over a ukeused to hate love triangles, then i discovered threesomes. i especially love dynamics where there's two semes taking turns with the uke, but one of them is subservient to the other.
No.50
Honestly, I'm crazy on monster boys. Well, not the ones with just ears, tail, fangs or some other animal feature where it's a normal boy that is 10% animal/monster. I adore the ones where it's a centauroid, maybe 50 - 60% animal/monster (Or even in the better cases when it's more than 60%!)
I'm not that much into mammal humanoids, I'm more into insects, marine animals or extinct animals. I also fantasize a lot about animal humanoids that live in female dominated matriarchal society, where there is a love affair between two males. Sometimes I also fantasize about male - female relationships, where even if the male is a monster he is still submissive.
I used to read a lot of BL, but it rarely has the monsters I need, so I fantasize entire movies. I just fancy love stories between monster boys!
No.52
>>51I haven't thought that much about the abstract ones. Most monster boys are created by myself from my imagination.
No.53
>>52You got me curious Nonna! I want to create an OC thread so you can share what you have in mind and to share stuff back and forth together as well. Is it /ex/ tier monsterboys or is safe to post about in /bl/? I'll probably get to it when I wake up next time.
No.55
>>53I was thinking of making a "Create your monster boy" thread! I have a lot of drawings but they're not related to bl so I can't post them there, but I have a lot of ideas and designs. I'll create a smilodon monster boy, oh my I love this animal. (The image is not BL centered, but I hope it's allowed, please don't ban me if it's not.)
My entire gallery is filled with extinct animal's skeletals.
No.56
>>55if they're monster boy husbandos, maybe you could post them in /yu/? or if all else fails, /ot/ should be a catch-all for content that's cool but not exactly on-topic.
No.57
>>56They're not husbandos, but characters made by me. I think the thread will fit the /bl/ board.
No.58
>>50monster boys are the best boys. madk got some great contestants for that trophy. haji has a thing for monster boys, so bouzu to kumo & red hood has what you're looking for.
No.59
>>58Checked them. Still too humanoid for my standarts haha.
No.62
>>60This is a good recommendation, but I'm more into centauroids. I made an unfinished drawing of a centauroid shota(hope it's allowed here, using it as an example)and this is what I'm mostly into (not the shota part), but it seems that there are no centauroid BL. I'll make more drawings also of older individuals, but that's the only BL related drawing I have.
Also you have a very good taste in BL/Yaoi.
No.63
>>62Cute art, Nonna! In sure it's fine since it's not NSFW or gives that vibe so you're fine.
>it seems that there are no centauroid BLThere's a lack of it but I've read some beautiful ones and I'm doing more digging to find old ones too. Have you read Equus before? I highly recommend it! See pic related.
Here's a link:
https://myreadingmanga.info/est-em-equus-eng/ No.64
>>53>>55>>56>>57The sticky on /wes/ says
>This includes self-made/original contentSo maybe we should make a general OC/drawfag thread there?
No.65
>>64b-but anon, i'm asian. am i still /wes/?
being a little facetious there, but i do think it would be a good idea to have a cohesive general oc/drawfag thread instead of one just for a particular nonny's art. just not sure where it should go.
No.66
>>65just make it on /bl/. admins can always move it if it's out of place
No.68
>>66>>64>>65Why not a draw thread on /ffs/? We're fujos in the fandom sperging and OC stuff is part of the fandom.
No.70
>>68that's definitely true. but i also think /ffs/ is more for drama/complaints
No.82
>>81guts is my little baby and i think it sucks that his story will never be concluded. hope someone leaks miura's notes
No.136
>>135thank you nonnie. madoka + nichijou are actually based
No.138
>>136You're welcome and I agree. I think anime without the sexualization of female characters gets a pass.
No.141
>>135I once saw a tweet from a man saying he hates BL/YAOI because the men in them were acting "feminine" and that it didn't represent the real men behaviour, while his entire account was for stanning anime girls (especially Monster Musume) that are just pervesions of what a woman is.
No.190
>>188I love her too. Mostly because she makes stories about small tops. Some of her manga can be pretty rushed though.
No.215
>>202What's that non yaoi ship?
No.327
>>326Nonna, are you? I fucking love all of those!
Especially the incest and the hatesex, if both of those are there too it's such a good combination!
No.355
>>326I like hatesex and enemies to lovers, but what I like more than enemies to lovers is enemies and lovers simultaneously.
No.372
>>355Hnnggg!! Can you rec stuff with an enemies and lovers dynamic like that Nona please?
No.610
>>13When the uke has the seme wrapped around his finger, or the seme acts more like an uke and the uke acts more like a seme. There might be proper terms for this but I don't know. Power bottom?
Also when modest or uptight characters act slutty in bed.
No.611
Historical settings, fantasy settings, enslavement, monster boys (Though I'm more on the vanilla side so I want the torso, face and genitals to still be human), power imbalances(Such as a royal and his knight or a mage and his familiar), yanderes, corruption, and last but not least slutty bottoms. There's probably more I'm not thinking of but this is off the top of my head.
No.613
>>611History, enslavement, and power imbalances are all kino especially if combined.
No.719
>>718Grandpa uke is a such good one, I'm still looking that one BL where the grandpa gets fucked by his son's coworker
No.727
>>726Pervert virgin is such a good trope, untouched and pure but yet mind so rotten and heart full of desire. Virgin uke who constantly lusts over seme's body is also based, good taste, Nonna.
No.728
>>720Based fellow chad major enjoyer. istg every major fanartist are kino.
>>719I want to know as well, most my grandpa ship are from non bl media.
No.860
>>215It's from Juuni Taisen snake x dragon.
No.1055
>>1054I'm not really one for switching but small tops are awesome indeed.
>GriffGutsBless.
No.1056
>>1054Nah I like small tops too and yours is a great example
No.1057
>>1054The short one being the top is great, I don't understand how this hasn't become a more popular trend considering japanese fujoshi fucking love role reversal.
No.1064
>>1054Nope small tops are the best especially if they are younger or shotas. Im not really into big, muscular, ukes though. Like the ones in Kaziwara Io's works for example.
No.1359
Height Difference, shorter seme/taller uke, dangerously slutty/aggressive bottoms that end up biting off more than they can chew, do-s/do-m stuff, long hair boys, beautiful men that aren't portrayed as feminine (bless you danmei media for keeping me fed…!!)…
Male tsundere and tsundra is also a ton of fun, I love seeing one slowly warm up or even never warm up at all but begrudgingly go along with it…
i also go feral at a good schemer/lord+knight pair, stuff like lulusuzu (geass) or cainrein (gbf), love it love it.
basically anything with a good contrast is great for me.
I also like the scandalous stuff like illicit relationships and sneaking around arranged marriages to have bro affairs. I also love the long-term malicious stuff, the good, meaty yandere or sadodere stuff- not the shallow "I'll kill everyone you ever talk to" stuff.
>monsterboys
yesss, esp if they're on the really monstrous side, some beauty and the beautiful beast stuff - I love a lot of shinto myth works because you get these huge yokai or kami adjacent boys with cute attendants…! I think size difference gets a real chance to shine here.
i like a lot of things sorry for the rambling!!
No.1360
>>1359I actually enjoyed what you've written. If you like monsters I recommend MADK.
No.1372
>>1360>MADKOhh, I've heard of this one, I just never got around to reading it… I may binge this weekend hehe, thank you!
No.1391
I like… a lot of things.
>brutal noncon, especially when they make an unselfish act selfish, ex: "I'm going to suck you off whether you want me to or not"
>Monster boys like most others in this thread. The more monstrous and animalistic the better
>Men begging to be bred/impregnated. I guess this would be mindbreak but that specifically is so delicious
>Unhealthy dynamics, power imbalance that's bad for everyone involved
>Relationships that are just loving enough where you can forget about the abuse for a second. That juxtaposition… mwah
>cuntboys. impossible to find in modern fics and fanart because of aidens threatening to 41% if the character doesnt whine about being trans for hours
>forced feminization. emphasis on forced. like, tube fed HRT and held down so they can be forced to wear badly applied makeup and badly fitting outfits. If it looks like a shitty imitation of a girl it's even better. Ties in to my love of unhealthy dynamics lol.
there's more but I cant think of em right now. For a while I liked "going behind the wife's back" stuff until my ex cheated on me. Maybe one day I'll indulge in it again, lol
No.1406
>>81Same. Got into martial arts and older stuff because of it.
>he true moe "endeared by this character" response is best achieved by cute behavior from tough looking characters.I think it's called gap moe. The most extreme example I can think of is Baki. The art style is really ugly, but whenever the characters show affection for each other it's stupdly cute because of the contrast. Can't get enough of it.
No.1409
>>1391Same hat for a lot of these kinks, especially cuntboys. Herm just doesn’t do it for me but cuntboys do surprisingly, I just hate that it’s impossible to find these days without the content being super preachy to the point of it being devoid of any sexuality. Incredibly hot when the author/artist just doesn’t give a fuck though.
No.1410
>>1409again there is Yume board where you are more then welcome, please leave
No.1412
>>1407if I trooned I would've repainted my walls red by now like 41% of them do, lol.
Should've been more specific with the breeding kink thing, it's only hot if the guy is actually a guy and has a penis. The idea of them being so far gone mentally they forget what they can and can't do is hot, it's the mindbreak more than anything lol. Men being treated as pathetic as they are irl is so satisfying to see.
>>1409Honestly! The other day I read a fic where the character was just a guy born with a vagina, no preaching, nothing. Troons were mentioned in one sentence at most, iirc. And it was such a breath of fresh air. I have no idea why so many fujos here are super against it, though considering how much of it is ayyden propoganda I can see why, because it's fucking obnoxious. If you're so insecure in yourself that a fanfiction not being totally inclusive and not going into graphic detail about the MC's titchop makes you want to slit your wrists you shouldn't engage with fandom period.
No.1413
>>1412it is ayyden propoganda, how do you fucking convince yourself that the most female thing in the goddam universe somehow loses its femaleness when attacked to a 2d male body
No.1414
>>1412>the character was just a guy born with a vaginaThat's a woman. Guys can't have vaginas.
No.1415
>>1414Nobody called futanari men and tranny propaganda before trannies appropriated them and cuntboy has existed for a long time too, even jp artists do it.
It's one thing to not like it, but going all REEEEEE THE TRANNIES just makes you as braindead as the average 4chan schizo
No.1416
>>1415>what about the futas?Oh… so you are like that.
You clearly don't belong here
(Infighting in the "things you like" thread.) No.1417
>>1413>>1414Have you ever read ANY cboy fic from before 2010? No mention of ayydens. I think the "x character is TWANZ" thing started gaining momentum in 2015 when it was no longer acceptable to laugh at them even if their content sucked, because any criticism is invalidating their fragile sense of self.
I think my enjoyment of cboys is because one of the manga I read during my fujo formative years was After School Nightmare, where the protag has the upper half of a man and the lower half of a woman, and one of his classmates tries to fuck him. I never finished it but that aspect really stuck with me and made me start imagining scenarios with other series where the uke had a pussy. I'm not saying you have to agree with me but immediately assuming I want to get a titchop and frankendick because of what I enjoy is autistic as fuck. How about you discuss what you enjoy with like minded people in the thread and contribute instead of REEEEE-ing??
No.1421
>>1417I can understand where you're coming from, theres this one character that isn't really human that i like who is a guy and i'd think them getting fucked while they have a benis would look ugly because of their design, i think they'd look better with a penetrable hole in ero-fanart
No.1422
Anyways… let's get back on topic with more stuff that makes me feel even more rotten
>Cannibalism and gore>Incest. Incest will always be wincest.>Dark!Character AUs. They're sort of rare these days, especially good ones. I feel like they cross a line and go from genuinely evil and intimidating to cringe-inducingly edgy way too often.>Priest!character/Demon!character AUs. A lot of fujos now seem to have priest and demon OCs instead of making an AU for existing characters and fandoms.>Not sure how to word it but… thrown to the wolves noncon? Character A needs to settle a debt or make a payment or something, so they use Character B and let them get gangraped instead of handing over whatever they actually owe. >Whump is wildly entertaining. You can never go too far or make them suffer too much. >>1421Same hat-ish! I like when people get creative with genitalia, it really shows how fujo creativity knows no bounds. Didn't they do that in older Star Trek nsfw zines? I'm not familiar with it at all so I'd love some info from some nonnas in the know.
No.1423
>>1391>Relationships that are just loving enough where you can forget about the abuse for a second. That juxtaposition… mwahI love those relationships as well. The whiplash between abuse and love is insane, especially when both characters reciprocate the love/hate. If you haven't read it yet, I recommend Ore no Kimochi ga Wakaru ka? by Kyouichi.
No.1433
I adore fanfics where one character gets a permanent injury and another character needs to take care of them. Its weird to say but amputations or losing the ability to walk is a favorite trope of mine. ^^
It's not a fetish thing since I don't like it devolving into niche kink stuff it's more the tenderness that comes with caring for another and the personal growth on the part of the affected.
Another random thing I like that's more /wes/ themed is fanfics and fanart that deal with unusual physical quirks nonhuman and cartoonishly proportioned characters have. Things like extreme size-difference or dealing with living-object characters without just humanizing then.
I guess you could say I'm a stickler for keeping my bl on-model. lol
No.1479
i like childhood friends becoming lovers if it's done right. unfortunately most people make it too uwu soft/wholesome/pure which is why the majority of this trope sucks. i prefer it when its two friends who has been protective with each other since childhood and in adulthood they have become codependent and obsessive with each other to a point where they destroy the relations of everyone around them. i dont mean that the relationship is abusive its just that it consists of two people who never where able to connect with other people so they only had each other to depend on and they make selfish decisions just to protect each othe
No.1480
>>1479Ooooh! Yeah, the selfishly caring for the wellbeing of each other only to ruin and destroy opportunities with others is amazing. Definitely unhealthy IRL but in fiction it is fun to explore this codependency.
No.1501
age gap pairings make me melt
No.1504
>>1503I love that too! Doesn't matter if it's a vampire or some elder god, human/non-human is a favorite of mine.
No.1520
>>1501same. another thing I've always liked is secret relationships. maybe that's why I ended up with mostly age gap pairings. for me when it comes to irl I don't think it's ever a good thing, but in fiction it's my drug
No.1604
Kinda fandom specific but I saw some Death Note on here and it made me go read some fanfiction. I LOVE it when people nail writing Light as Kira. Sociopath/Detective is such a great pairing and Light and L are both awesome.
Yotsuba arc "nice" Light is good too (especially since they are chained together!), but more serious crime romance gets me hooked and wanting to read more.
No.1628
>>1422>Cannibalism and goreYes!! This!!!!! The amount of nights I've spent scavenging for gore BLs is insane lolol. I especially love it when the gore is mixed with supernatural elements like monsters or powers. Double the points if it's drawn in an artsy way.
Reminds me of a stunning manga about this detective's partner with the ability to experience a crime scene as a victim: physically. iirc it's called "Stigmata". Fun stuff. Uke is cute
>Priest!character/Demon!characterOne of my favorite fanfictions is along the lines of this, but the demon role is actually the worshipped god messing with the priest. The way the priest vers. felt like he was betraying his faith when tempted by the demon when it was actually the deity itself! Amazing!
No.1629
>>1628Post that priest(god)/demon fic please cause the premise sounds like a fucking banger
No.1633
>>1629seconding this! im intrigued now
No.1642
>>1631Oh fuck this is so fucking hot. I have a few like this already in my Danny Phantom folder, but please post more. I have an ectoplsm fetish.
No.1651
>>1629>>1633Here it is! Technically it's more like priest/demon(god), though. Sorry about my wording. It's been a while since I last read, so I forgot how fun it is. It includes spoilers and references to the source material btw.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/37191853On another note, I forgot how much I love this ship so much. The pairing in the source material work so well together. They're literally soulmates in-game. It's so sweet. Picrel is them
>>1631While surprising, I guess it makes sense considering the old-ish fanbase and ghost themes. The pics u posted are totally my type tho. I'll check em out.
No.1672
Remembered that, when done well, I love prison settings/AUs.
No.2143
>>2142>no patriotism (unless it's there to be broken down into nihilism)Gosh I love this, not even just in the context of war, but anytime you can slowly over the course of a series turn a bright-eyed character cynical I'm there for it.
No.2161
>>1359>Height Difference, shorter seme/taller uke, dangerously slutty/aggressive bottoms that end up biting off more than they can chew, long hair boys, beautiful men that aren't portrayed as femininenona are you me, this is my shit right there. I especially love long-haired bitchy handsome men.
Another thing that I love is a top who is physically bigger but more emotional and has a harder time dealing with his temper and feelings compared to the bottom who is more experienced/mature and cynical. It's more present in age-gaps but for me it's more about emotional maturity than the age difference itself.
No.2195
I love the trope of single father x school teacher.
Married father cheating with teacher is fine too, but single avoids a lot of arguing.
No.2197
for me it's when bottoms are
>older >buffer>meaner/scarier >>81this too, gap moe is insanely powerful
No.2198
This is generic, but I love headpats and headrubbing, playbiting, cheek pinching. Is there anything more cute than these things?
>>81Thanks nonna, I know this is a year old but this is pretty based. I love manime and boyish looking characters more than life itself.
No.2199
>>2198>that picOh god the nostalgia. I miss Brawl-era Ike/Marth fanart. Take me back.
No.2202
>>2199the brawl fandom had so much fun had in it and sovlful
we will never have anything like it again
No.2206
>>2204I remember a lot of stories on FF where all the characters were all in the "Smash Mansion" I'd probably cringe looking them up but I have a lot of nostalgia for the fandom.
From checking on the Dojo pre-release to all the grimdark fan art and fanfics inspired by Subspace Emissary it was peak Smash Bros fandom.
WiiU and Ultimate never inspired a big creative fandom did they? I love those entries too, but I don't remember a lot of works outside of initial character reveal hype.
No.2207
>>2206Reading the words "smash mansion" really takes me back. This inspired me to go back and find a Marth/Ike fic I really liked back then, and it was very…dated but had such heart, lol. I never looked out for Smash fanfiction beyond the brawl days, but after that one, there was moreso fanart then there were fanfictions written memory.
No.2246
>>2218I think yes. In the end being a fujo isn't so strict as it just means liking BL (i included yaoi fanart as BL). But I do think there are levels to fujo obsession. A fujo that reads BL and consumes a lot of BL-only media isn't on the same level as a more casual fujo that only saves yaoi fanart to her PC. Either way both are fujos.
No.2394
So many chubby guy arts lately. The fics I've read could use some work on how they describe and discuss it, but I'm feeling pretty blessed for content these days.
No.2395
>>2394>how they describe and discuss itwhat are your specific peeves and how would you prefer they depict it, nonna? i ask purely out of curiosity, as someone who isn’t specifically into (but doesn’t at all mind) chubby guys.
No.2396
>>2372I know this is 7 months late but what a based opinion nonny. I like it.
No.2397
As flies are to shit so am I to codependency. I love ukes who are basically dysfunctional morons and can't take care of themselves and the semes that do basically everything for them.
No.2399
This may be a little hyper-specific but I loved the site personification era. I used to have tons of fanart saved in my computer (but I lost it like the dumb child I was) and remember loving the 4chan x reddit ship because it was so tumultuous and forceful, absolute OTP.
No.2400
>>2397I absolutely hate people like that in real life but I eat them the hell up in BL, I'm addicted to dysfunctional bottoms who need a top to care for them. I don't even know why but that scratches some itch that I have. If someone has recommendations for such mangas I would really like to hear them, something similar to Yatamomo.
No.2402
>>2395Made a reply on the things you hate thread. o7
Back to positivity: one of my fav artists for chubby guys not only had their first manga licensed and released in English (full of typesetting mistakes but still), but has been making tons of GO fanart since S2 came out and it's all so cute and round. ;__;
Their manga doesn't get very far romantically between the leads so I feel apprehensive about recommending it as BL but I liked how balanced the story was between giving them both development and career progression. For a two volume long series I like a neatly wrapped up narrative much more than just speedrunning a relationship to the bedroom. Maybe it's not memorable or remarkable, but it's satisfying. I like the little fantasy that life works out and people find each other, and their jobs were a small insight into things I'm not familiar with myself.
>>2397>>2400Reminds me that I should check if anyone ever translated more of Vatican Miracle Examiners. Hiraga was the type who forgot to eat or wash and would sleep in piles of research if he didn't have Roberto herding him about and telling him the day of the week.
No.2403
>>2400> I don't even know why but that scratches some itch that I haveCan it be some oblique wish fulfillment fantasy? No judgement from me! I am a dysfunctional retard myself, that's why I like seeing other incompetent people being helped out. Anyway if you don't mind slow action, mostly subtext and a loooooot of plot, Double by Ayano Noda may or may not be up your alley.
No.2404
>>2403I'm a pretty well adjusted normal person IRL but somehow I'm attracted to the concept, maybe it's because it's an attractive thought to be able to have a complete lack of control and letting someone else do the decisions for you while you get to live off your instincts and impulses? I think it's pretty interesting to armchair about the psychology behind the things we enjoy in BL to be honest, it's so rare that women get the chance to really figure out and explore what they find fascinating and why.
No.2408
>>2404>letting someone else do the decisions for you while you get to live off your instincts and impulses? Yessss like a strange freedom to "jus b urself" but literally. And you get basically unconditional love, since you start off at your worst, so if you are already loved at your worst, you can't fuck it up. Especially that YataMomo manga mentioned above I skimmed thru a bit. Love must be true if even someone like Momo can find someone to love him lol
>it's so rare that women get the chance to really figure out and explore what they find fascinating and why.Yes it's a nice exercise even by yourself to explore these connections between what you like and dislike, why or why not, and how your preferences changed over time. FC is probably the one good place for these kinds of conversations, it's like the least judgemental space I found so far. Maybe we will get a thread once the board situation clears up.
No.2439
Probably very generic but I like sexualized manwhores.
No.2445
>>2439As in the character acts slutty or male strippers and prostitutes?
No.2447
>>2445Rather the first. Just sexualised dudes, often villains, that fuck with everybody or come off as whores and cunning bitches that would be ready to fuck with others, especially fucking with their enemy (literally, but also metaphorically).
No.2448
>>2445I freaking love male strippers
>>2447Great taste, a slut hero would be really cute but a slut villain is super sultry and appealling to me.
No.2456
Dolls, puppets, marionettes, scarecrows, robots. Any type of boy who is almost human but not quite, bonus points for falling in love with a regular human who has to deal with those slight physical differences.
No.2459
>>2439One time I was really into this isekai novel where ~misunderstandings~ makes the MC seem to other characters like a good person putting on a front, and who is all self sacrificing and taking on too many burdens so they must support him, etc. etc. The usual, but on top of that he's genuinely vain and checking himself out in the mirror, giving bedroom eyes and lounging like hot shit, acting haughty and aloof to throw people off even when he has no idea what's going on.
Anyway I spent a good night entertaining the idea of him using weaponised pheromones that have everyone bending over backwards to serve him as he saunters about and plays into his own attractiveness - up until it gets out of control and the one fighter in his party goes feral for his ass.
On a slightly different note, protags who have fucked in the past, may even have a history with other leads, and it is known. Instead of focusing on how much sex they're having I like when it's sex not being a big deal to them, just happens from time to time. There's a different vibe about them as adult characters. Casual and down to earth. I feel like they'd have more tactile knowledge, and it adds some variety. (jaded with a drinking habit for flavour, perhaps? Now there's a stereotype)
>>2456One time LJ taught me a word for "looks human but isn't" as a kink and I wish I could recall it, the only one I can remember now was the vague tag "Other" with a capital O. I'm really into that but usually organic species rather than dolls and robots.
No.2460
>>2459Nta but
>everyone bending over backwards to serve him as he saunters about and plays into his own attractiveness - up until it gets out of control and the one fighter in his party goes feral for his ass.That's sexy. I love vain, black belly type characters, so the concept of getting a little more than he bargained for is super hot. Also is the other term "Otherkin"?
No.2462
Not about BL but about characters I tend to ship with guys: I love it when they look like they have their shit together, like they're perfect but they secretly have daddy issues and hate themselves or their lives in general.
No.2463
>>2459>On a slightly different note, protags who have fucked in the past, may even have a history with other leads, and it is known. Instead of focusing on how much sex they're having I like when it's sex not being a big deal to them, just happens from time to time. There's a different vibe about them as adult characters. Casual and down to earth. I feel like they'd have more tactile knowledge, and it adds some variety. (jaded with a drinking habit for flavour, perhaps? Now there's a stereotype)Some of the reasons that I am an older man enjoyer.
No.2464
>>1501same same. It's funny because I kinda hate sugar daddy stuff but older man/younger man pumps me with serotonin. I guess I enjoy it a lot when it's a symbiotic relationship with notable generational differences.
No.2465
>>2464Same, I love fics that try to work with a cross-generational age difference especially if it's something that could easily be interpreted as toxic but the author tries to realistically run with it to a more positive conclusion.
No.2475
This is so dumb, but I love boys with fluffy hair, especially fluffy blonde hair (especially, 'buttercup yellow' blonde hair). List of characters I like: Kagamine Len (Vocaloid), Fuli Jishaoji (Tale of Food), Igarashi (Slow Damage), Finnian (Black Butler), England (Hetalia), and many more… Honestly, Len is probably what started it all. He is by far my favorite, and I've liked him ever since I was 11. I'm in my mid-twenties now, so I guess I'm going to be obsessed with Len forever.
No.2498
There was a post here that didnt make the backup but I liked it so much I saved it to my diary:
>Character A has a ton of issues
>Character B notices and makes a point of being kind to/patient with him but ultimately doesn't do much in regard to actually helping A improve and grow
>Character A is still unhinged, but "better" now because he has a growing fanaticism with Character B that usually keeps him from being as vitriolic as he was before
No.2499
Power imbalances. Not in the sense of one holding a higher position than the other (though that can be fun) but outright massive gaps in strength/magical ability. Like a strong guy who's very passive and lets himself get led around by someone much weaker. Or a totally average dude having someone of extreme renown/skill fall head over heels for him. The second example in particular is really fun because I like the idea of the strong dude being really handsy and affectionate and the average guy eventually accepts that he's just going to be omnipresent from now on.
>>2498Ayy, that was one of mine!
No.2505
>>2499>Or a totally average dude having someone of extreme renown/skill fall head over heels for himThis is a super fun trope, I love the idea when applied to magical beings in general. Ancient all powerful vampire, or a super strong warlock falls in love with salary man is underutilized.
No.2506
>>2499
Yes. So much yes. I really really love when a normal human ends up having a verbal leash over something that could blow up a whole mountain, because it is hanging on his approval for reasons he's given up making sense of. I also love powerful beings who cannot be bothered with making decisions or taking care of themselves. That average man needs to stride in there, pull open the curtains, and start throwing the blankets off to air the bed with no regard for the groaning monster who doesn't want to put clothes on yet.
It's fun rotating which of the pair is soft and dere and which is higher strung - maybe the gentle average guy gave the powerful one appreciation for what weaker people can still do/be, or maybe a big softie demon lord doesn't live up to a busybody human's idea of him (there are some manga like that). I should try imagining ones where they're both one or the other. If they're both hot blooded it can use the "he talks back to me! Nobody ever talks back to me!" cliche to rouse interest. If they're both kind souls then the average guy could finally be someone who doesn't ask too much of a former hero and lets him enjoy his hobbies away from battle.
>>2505Warlock husband sounds like he'd be trying to find solutions where a normal rice cooker would do fine. "Helpful" sleep spells that accidentally run over 7:30am, laundry dried so quick it becomes crispy and hard to put on, a storage cupboard you can get lost in five floors down… I bet they first met on a night after the last cherry blossom had already fallen, and the salary man hadn't been able to come out until then and missed it all. The warlock could use magic to make the trees flourish again, but he's more interested in the stars above the bare branches.
I was trying to work something out on /oc/ and ended up sperging over here. Woops.
No.2528
>>2499AYRT squeeee nonna I loved it so much I wrote my own original fic for myself, thank you for sharing it!
No.2861
>>2856Pardon, what's happening on bottom left corner? He is sucking dick while standing on his arms?
No.2862
>>2856no full nelson pose? or mating press pose?
No.2864
>>2856I think I've been conditioned to laugh at stickmen.
No.3166
>>3165>I just enjoy seeing those subtle hints of behavior that could veer into disastrous.I can relate. I find the idea of a codependant relationship pretty appealing. Like if A is insecure and craves attention and validation and B idolizes A. With other people they'd be disastrous but together it works out in their own way.
No.3286
>>3266This is an adorable trope! Especially if the taller kids was protective of the other, and then you get a bit of role reversal when they both grow up.
No.3481
Internalized homophobia, especially of the religious kind. This is less common in Japanese work so I mostly have to go to Western fandoms to get my fix but I love it so much… Something about the guilt and shame is so hot to me. I like if they are trying to fix and cure themselves but it obviously doesn't work.
No.3482
>>3481Yes please, doesn't have to be religious, but I love seeing characters work themselves up with stress over stuff like this.
No.3483
>>3464Cute teeth! I on the other hand love the yeeyee ass haircut these boys are sporting. If I see a character with a hime haircut I'm guaranteed to fall in love with him.
No.3507
>when the seme is insistent and creepy yet weirdly submissive/groveling. eagerly sucking and kissing, holding his beloved in place even though he’s squirming with discomfort, gushing about how perfect the uke is. bonus points for noncon and if the seme is a kind of otaku with long hair. like it when he flips out and roughly fucks him but it’s better if he remains submissive>yandere uke>awkward, brooding, repressing character A who's yearning and desperately horny for bubbly easygoing character B better if they’re related>priests>butler x much younger master. even better if the butler is a teacher of sorts>eye-covering bangs>freckles, moles>old handsome uke. lets his rough, sex-hungry young seme have his way with him because he actually loves it. somewhat related to the butler thing>>3481Yes!!
No.3509
>>3507>>old handsome uke. lets his rough, sex-hungry young seme have his way with him because he actually loves it.You didn't ask for a rec but here is one: Ikeoji Monster to Zettai Reido Danshi (on mrm)
No.3510
>>3507>>when the seme is insistent and creepy yet weirdly submissive/groveling. eagerly sucking and kissing, holding his beloved in place even though he’s squirming with discomfort, gushing about how perfect the uke is. bonus points for noncon and if the seme is a kind of otaku with long hair. like it when he flips out and roughly fucks him but it’s better if he remains submissiveThis is top tier. If anyone knows series like this please rec, I really love overly intrusive/creepy yet pathetic characters.
No.3514
Cold-blooded killer power couple. Especially if one is a skilled human warrior but dead inside and the other is fundamentally inhuman, like some sort of god or spirit. The dead inside guy finally feels something by falling in love with the god/spirit and the god/spirit is like "renounce your humanity and become mine" which the warrior is fine with cause he barely had any humanity left to begin with.
No.3515
>>3509Thank you so much! I love it so far, it's right up my alley
>>3510I'll post if i find one.. I've only seen this dynamic in H-manga, but i think it deserves longer character development
No.3522
In Korean they have this phrase that usually translates as "he eats well" or "I'll eat well". I'm always seeing it in novels and Korean fans talking about characters they like. I already had a feeding fetish but there's something really moe about it to me. He's a good boy, he eats well.
No.3523
>>3522What is the context for the Korean phrase? It makes me think of a rich boy who eats well because he can afford to.
No.3524
>>3523Sorry, I hadn't even thought about that meaning in English. It's usually characters who clear their plate or ask for seconds, or when a character means they'll eat until they're very full.
No.3528
>>3524So it's like bon appétit in French?
No.3532
>>3528No it's more like coming from another person it's praise for someone's behavior, and when you say it about yourself it's to express how content it makes you (eg. a character says he's nervous about an upcoming event but he eats well and forgets about it for the time being). I tried googling for anything that explains it, but not knowing the original Korean the best I could find was this food magazine article. It's one of those phrases where there's no translation note, it just pops up over and over and you get a sense that it means something in particular to Koreans.
… And as I'm googling I find there is a separate phrase that translates the same and IS similar to bon appetit, used similar to itadakimasu to say thanks.
No.3745
Some of it is generic as hell, and some is hyper-specific to my favorite ships, but one ship of mine has a guy who is like 99% human 1% giant alien lizard with magic powers, and despite being a teenager he was kinda built, so I like to headcanon him as built and good at martial arts because of his alien DNA, he gets a sudden growth spurt at 18 and becomes taller than the other 100% human guy, gets even more built, stronger and faster. So when they have sex, it's a unique experience to them only and the human guy bottoms and his mind gets blown away by it every time. They frott though because I love frotting and don't care about anal.
Another thing about those two is the normal human guy has a girlfriend, and the show tried so hard to make it seem like the 2 guys and her have a love triangle, forgetting that "triangle" here implies the guys also like each other lol. And it kinda did seem that way but not on purpose, and she was kinda meh, I don't hate her but I don't like her forced rushed relationship with the guy. His chemistry and parallels with the 1% alien lizard guy is insane and made me want to see them kiss so bad. So I like the idea of them meeting again after they've become adults with their new mature looks and all, and the flame of love gets reignited between them, so the guy starts cheating on his gf with the other guy, because he realizes he's in love with him and it feels better and right to be with him instead of her. The juicy drama makes it so fun even if it's toxic.
And speaking of parallels, I'm just a sucker for 2 guys with somewhat similar backgrounds who end up as vastly different people down 2 different paths, but manage to get along and have some things in common and get closer because of the parallels between them. DELICIOUS. And I like to imagine the miserable "evil" guy who had it a bit worse venting to the happier nice guy because he finds comfort in him, and that's how they find out they have things in common. Which makes them get closer and love each other. I LOVE the angst of that shit.
This is a different ship I'm gonna sperg out more about later on. But basically, they were acquaintances at first, had some major differences, became neutral about each other, then got closer to each other and had a master and servant kind of relationship. With the servant dying for his master. I love that shit with all of my heart. I like to imagine during their acquaintances era, they were into each other and even kissed and fucked, so the huge disagreement would be even more impactful, until they go back to each other after they agree on something, starting the master and servant relationship. *I'm talking about AOT characters and I like to imagine Eren turning into a titan to have insane oral sex with his BF*
No.3748
>>3745>They frott though because I love frotting and don't care about anal.This needs to be a more popular opinion.
No.3753
>>3745I'm a sucker for that parallel stuff as well! Especially if they pull that "you're just like me" speech.
No.3844
I really like histrionic and clingy semes. Real "Jesus, get a grip, dude…" types. Not even like a stalker, or anything, though that's nice too. Just embarrassingly emotional over his bf/crush, whining and sobbing at the drop of a hat. Wimpy/pathetic tops in general are my jam I think, kek.
No.3846
>>3844Are you already into BingQiu?
No.3847
>>3846I'm not, actually! I've yet to dip a foot into danmei but I'm not opposed to giving SV a shot when I can.
No.3848
>>3844>Wimpy/pathetic tops in general are my jam I thinkHetare semes are such an underused trope.
No.3850
>>3849What do you like about it? Doesn't do much for me personally. Though I like the embarrassed expression and pose on the guys face you shared.
No.3852
>>3847You might also like Wen Kexing, I don't think he cries but he's definitely very clingy and stalkery at the beginning of Word of Honour while MC's trying to ignore him
No.3853
>>3852Same anon but I should also add that Binghe reaches his full whiny potential in the post-story extra chapters because that's when the ship is properly together
No.3855
>>3854BL robots strike again
No.3856
>>3849cute, subahibi needed more takuji rape.
No.3859
>>3850It's just kinda cute looking.
>>3856You're speaking facts anon.
>>3858Agreed, I've been really into yandere ukes as of late.
No.3866
>>3865Every uke should be at least a little bit menhera basically.
>hashihime also needed more tamamori rape.Ironically I wasn't that into Hanazawa's route, I'm a Kawasefag through and through.
No.3867
>>3866I wish hanazawas route was better. I love a cute boy wearing a military uniform but his route was shorter than the others as if the writer didn't even care… I'm a kawase hater though I'm sorry I tried really hard to like him but I just can't.
No.3868
>>3866I'm of the opinion that Minakami and Tamamori is the best ship in the game from a writing and story perspective (basic taste, I know), but I like all of the characters for different reasons. I had fun with all of the routes, but it's very obvious she ran out of steam after Kawase's route.
Of course, since Tamamori is the best boy, it made all the boys more likable to me by extension. A strong protagonist is the fastest way to get me to like all of the characters, and by extension, the VN as a whole. I don't think I'd care so much about the routes if the protagonist weren't such a lovable little weirdo.>Every uke should be at least a little bit menhera basically. Excellent opinion, nona.
>>3865Hanazawa's route, in my opinion, suffered the most from the author running out of steam (besides the last route, which really needed more information because it was so short). The way Tamamori resolved the plot in Hanazawa's route was so goofy that I couldn't hate it, though. I think it helped that I'd already heard subsequent routes were bad, and emotionally prepared myself for that kek.
No.3869
>>3868The problem with Minakami is that he's the most boring character of them all. I didn't give a shit when he was saved and they got together, I felt like I was playing an otome in reverse. Kawase best boy.
No.3870
>>3869I didn't think minakami was boring. He was nice to tamamori which I liked, only issue I had with him was how he just kept killing himself, it started to annoy me. I didn't even want him alive at the end of his route. kawase is the one where I felt like I was playing an otome.
No.3871
>>3869Fair. I liked his route more (not necessarily his character, but like, the actual story), but I can understand that. I think he fits better thematically, and his route was written with the most effort. There were more 'interesting' characters, but if Hashihime were a kinetic novel, it's obvious that the first route would be the only one. Again, I liked Tamamori so much that it elevated all the other characters by association, so I don't have a strong bias toward the characters themselves (besides Tamamori being the best).
>>3870>kawase is the one where I felt like I was playing an otome.Very true, actually. He gave strong Otome Boy vibes, and funnily enough, his personality is the exact kind that usually ends up being my favorite in otome games. I didn't like the actual story behind his route quite as much, though, but I still liked it. His was the only other route I thought was given similar care and effort to the first. I'm hoping she won't make the same mistake with Ooe.
No.3873
>>3871>His was the only other route I thought was given similar care and effort to the first.agreed, I guess I dislike kawase for the same reasons you like him but his route was one of the better ones with minakami's being the best one. I'll look forward to her new game, there are a lot of characters so I'm a bit worried.
No.3877
Gap moe during sex scenes, like when a normally talkative character gets quiet during sex, or a normally submissive character becomes dominant.
A small switch around with the dynamics like that is a very nice touch.
No.3879
I am obsessed with lawful evil and lawful neutral characters. They are hot as long as they rule and step onto others and they are hot when they eventually lose and have it happen to them, it's win/win situation and the role reversal makes the latter especially hot.
I also love loyal lackeys with their leaders and allegedly strong leaders that are actually figureheads serving some twink that they look up to. The power structures are honestly the main reason for why I usually cling to antagonists.
No.3880
>>3879>I also love loyal lackeys with their leadersWoman after my own heart! Yes! And the lackey/right hand man needs to top
No.3881
>>3879>lawful evil and lawful neutral charactersYes!! This is why i love Pucci from JJBA so much. Evil that comes from a place of sincere beliefs has a special flavor to it.
>allegedly strong leaders that are actually figureheads serving some twink that they look up toYou've unearthed a new need. I have to find a ship that remotely sounds like this
>>3880>And the lackey/right hand man needs to topYES. I really liked the Batman TV animated show as a kid and thought Batman ought to be topped by his butler-lover after my fujo awakening (if only he wasn't bald…)
>>3877Even better if this starts to come undone while they're raising the sexual tension. Small glimpses of impatience in the submissive character, or unexpected shyness.
No.3882
>Woman after my own heart!
Am I going insane or did I suddenly start seeing this exact sentence pop up everywhere this year?
No.3891
I really like actual homos in my yaoi, with characters who actually call themselves gay or have dated men prior to their love interest, i also really like realistic storylines with the characters agnsting about being homos in an unaccepting society
also closetfags are great
No.3897
>>3891Same closeted homophobic gay characters are a favorite of mine and the character arch is always satisfying.
No.3914
>>3891…closetfags are great when it comes to dubcon scenarios in fic tbh. Trying to repress noises, pretending they don't find it immensely pleasuring, all the while their cock is weeping like a willow tree.
No.3917
>>3914>>3897Yessss my sisters in arms
>Waaa the homophobic bigot who's secretly a massive pillow biter is such a harmful regressive stereotype! Nah that shit is such a turn on, love when they feel ashamed of their desires and bully their crush or better yet, bully their crush's love interest and call THEM a fag
No.3918
>>3917Please nonna I must know the name!
No.3919
>>3918He's from boys abyss, ngl it's a pretty long read and when it finally gets homo they later try to make the character long to crossdress and envy MC's mum for being female which is a bit of a let down but id still recommend it if you like slow burn unrequited love
Ngl I read this blind and I shipped these two but I really wasn't expecting this outcome, surprise homo is the best
No.3926
>>3919Doesn't he tranny eventually?
No.3927
>>3919Suprise ship confirmation is always nice
very pretty angsty art too. Might have to check it out even if it sounds like it goes some weird places. Thanks for sharing nonna!
No.3935
>>3926I mean kinda? It's really out of nowhere tho and kinda feels like the author doesn't know how to write gay characters without them wanting to be women, ngl I'd take him secretly wanting to crossdress over him secretly being in love with MC's mum and using him as an outlet that would have been fully retarded
>>3927Enjoy anon! Just be prepared for what a slow read it tends to be at times as well as how depressing it can be
No.3936
>>3935I do remember the author wrote another series that had similiar gender stuff, but with a woman. I can't recall what it was about though.
No.3937
>>3936ah himegoto? honestly that was kind of a weird one, the main love interest played with being a troon but it didn't go anywhere if i recall correctly, it was similar with the mc who's issues were just the generic "i'm a tomboy im not pretty" gimmic
honestly i would have dropped it quickly if it wasn't for the pseudo lesbian character who was obsessed with the mc but went around having sex with old men whilst pretending to be a schoolgirl, her arc and character progression was genuinely insane but wasn't enough to carry the story
ngl the author feels like he fully doesn't know how to write gay characters correctly, like he played with the mc and pseudo lesbian having an actual relationship only to make it clear later that the lesbian was just a fucked up straight girl and the mc ends up with the tranny who makes her more feminine idk the closet gay's story in boy's abyss could have gone a lot worse
No.3938
>>3935Ok so it's troonshit, no idea why you are shilling it here as homo
No.3939
>>3938nah i personally wouldn't view it as that, I think him wanting to crossdress is more of an internalised homophobia thing, i'm not up to date so i could be wrong
No.4009
>>4008Numbers 2 and 6 appeal to me greatly. Especially 2, I love the duplicitous two faced bastard who hides behind a false positive facade, making that person an idol for MC is a great set up.
No.4011
>>4008Middle row is great
No.4012
>>4008God i love 1, 3 and 4. 1 is especially good if the seme tries to get the uke to resemble his past crush/whoever he wants to fuck even more. Clothing, literally taping a picture on the uke's face before he fucks him.
No.4013
>>4008I desperately need 4 and 6 like works. Maybe even both Idol turns out to be a possessive stalker. Hmm, why am I thinking about Killing Stalking?
No.4014
>>4013I mean the celebrity crush whom fan obsessed with, years collecting folder of his promo and paparazzi photos, finally braves himself to attend to the place he’s currently in (red carpet or just premiere place), asking for a photo together and putting his idol’s hand on his waist, giving him his number so they can hookup. That’s all I can think about it right now, I’m not a writer and don’t know how to make stories. If some similar premise sounds familiar, please tell me.
No.4015
>>40083 is one of my fave dynamics, love petty insecure bully characters
No.4033
>>4008I've genuinely never seen 5 play out before, specifically the immortal lover x writer concept. Any examples?
No.4044
>>4033Seconding this, I've seen plenty of immortal x mortal ships, but I'd love some with an author character.
No.4049
>>4048Yeah would work as a weird amensalistic relationship with a dark cult leader or something preying on one of his followers. Not literally a sacrificial lamb (perhaps) but basically the follower goes above and beyond to serve the cause because he's "special" and "promising" but in the end he's just taken advantage of.
Cult and fringe religious concepts always fascinate me so I'm with you there.
No.4101
This is a bit complicated to describe and sperg warning, but I am addicted to narratives in which the villain is actually victim of a higher manipulative force himself.
Not to be confused with the "misunderstood guy" and "forced villain". Villain-kun's doing evil shit for his own sake, e.g. out of spite, utilitarianism or hatred for the world. But he's being toyed with regardless, by something (or someone) that stands above him and considers him part of an experiment, mission or funny game. Even better when the villain laughs it off or knows about it but doesn't seem to care since he's already broken. It sounds more peculiar than it actually is, it's something that casually happens in games and manga.
I just love to explore how desperation, failure or alienation can make a character evil and how being evil is a punishment by itself. Or how the real evil are often the sanctimonious leaders, puppet players in the background or the mighty gods to whom human struggle is just a form of entertainment. Villains that vaguely fit this trope are also very shippeable with the MCs that fight them (or the secret master) since they're ironically also fighting the very ones that manipulate the villain.
No.4104
>>4101>(or the secret master) Can you drop some ships like this? It's a set up I haven't really considered before but I am very interested
No.4105
>>4102Xenoblade 2's antagonists are so good, I recommend it as well.
No.4140
>>4102Do you need to play the first one to play the second one?
Never played a Xenoblade game but the character designs in the franchise are nice
No.4147
(Welcome back FC!)
I think I really like intelligence gaps. One character is kinda dumb and the other can either be just above-average or super smart. I like it if it's Dude/His pet idiot and light-hearted, but I think I prefer when it has a darker edge to it. If the smarter one is manipulative and touchy while the dumber one doesn't at all like what he's doing but doesn't have the best self-preservation instincts/isn't good at arguing back and just lets it happen. Though not if the guy is like, actually just not mentally capable at all, that just loops back around to making me feel legit bad.
No.4149
>>4147>Dude/His pet idiot Lmao I like this a lot too. I wish there was more of it outside of high school settings
No.4152
>>4149I'll be the third to love this, I especially like it when in a criminal duo.
No.4153
>>4147>Though not if the guy is like, actually just not mentally capable why did this make me laugh
No.4160
THICK EYEBROWS
God I love them literally perfect on ukes I dunno what it is just fucking hot I love them
>>4153I did phrase it kinda funny admittedly lmao
No.4661
>>4660Agree actually! This is something that grew on me. I used to be really into tall beanpole men, but over time chubby guys grew on me. Not fatsos or anything fetishy but a guy who isn't too athletic or has a bit of meat on his bones can be cute too.
No.4662
>>4661Forgot to add but while jocks or super muscle-men aren't my forte I love the idea of shipping jock-kun with chubby-kun and having him be a personal trainer of sorts. Especially if chubby is self-concious about his body and jock-kun keeps reassuring him, maybe chubby even tries quitting because it's too hard but sticks with it because jock believes in him and is his biggest cheerleader.
No.4663
>>4660Only under the pretense he has some muscle to him too. Idk, but men with a mix of muscle and fat are so freaking hot to me.
No.4666
I really REALLY like when the men are "feminine" but still have subtle masculine features, it's a hard balance to obtain but when it's done right it's just so good and I like it when both uke and seme are like this. Also size difference but the "smaller" guy is actually average height and the "bigger" guy isn't just taller, he's actually slightly bigger overall, only good in fantasy settings really.
No.4667
>>4666Like Griffith from Berserk? If so I fully agree that type of androgynous beauty is great and has a very powerful and elwgant aura.
I also like "traps" when they aren't drawn with hips or fake breasts. Femine and cute but still very clearly male in personality is a nice contrast but you rarely see it done well.
No.4675
>>4667Yeah Griffith is a good example (even if the movies sometimes make him look a little too feminine imo) plus his personality in contrast with his looks is wonderful. Another example I enjoy (design-wise) are male characters from old shoujo works with long hair and eyelashes coupled with the tall frame and sharp masculine (but slender) shapes, never seen it but Patalliro has this (still goes a little overboard with the feminine elements sometimes though). Also I've talked about Ennead here before and Seth and Anubis are making me go insane lately, long hair, pretty faces and cool make-up with the muscular but not roided body, such amazing design choices!
No.4733
>>4661Any BL I've read where one of the guys is considered "fat" reminds me what the standard for fat is in Japan
They're usually just drawn with less definition and the softness looks really cute to me
No.4969
Circus and carnival themed works. Specifically featuring magician or clown characters.
Copernicus no Kokyuu might be to blame in a BL sense, but I've always loved the atmosphere of works taking place at them.
No.4970
>>4899Nona, what's the sauce on that IiTodo please? I've tried every reverse engine.
No.4977
>>4970@55_nyokitaro ! Think it got deleted though since it's no longer in my likes + author has gone private, RIP.
No.4986
>>4969I remember loving Karneval's aesthetics and character designs, I used to collect the manga.
>>4977Thank you! And a minor tragedy. I'll keep a lookout for if/when they become public. Unfortunately I've seen so many Japanese artists go private in the last few days, even moreso than usual, due to muskrat nonsense.
No.5098
>>5077Yes yes yes, this is 100% one of my favorite tropes, it's so nice to see someone else who agrees! This is how I characterize my all time favorite RPF ship. It really does make their love feel so much more special. Despite only loving women, you still throw in your all, all your love into this man? You still find him attractive? You'd do anything for him? Oh lord, it just heightens everything!!!!!
I like switches, but I like the straight guy as the seme also, because it feels less likely that they'd like anal lol. And it allows them the ability to be the "actionable" one I guess. They get to show off more of their passion compared to if they were in a more passive role
No.5102
>>5098>>5100ayrt, it's so nice to find other fujos into the same dynamic, especially considering how it's so often dunked on ♥
it's viewed as a homophobic stance to have, but that's probably more of an aiden view, it has their typical conflation of what you find attractive with your personal values.
what is your favorite ship to apply this trope to? and why?
No.5104
>>5102Totallyyyyy Imai Hisashi/Atsushi Sakurai. (Imai as the heterosexual seme)
I feel like it's a fun obvious extension of their stage performances. The way Atsushi is the one who's lovey and gay acting while Imai just stands there and takes it LOL. I like to think that he likes it and is putting up with it only because it's his Acchan haha. He's too straight to ever be the one to initiate it, but he loves him enough to take it ♥
As stated in my above post, because he is straight, he will not take it in the ass 90% of them time. He is the seme, he is the top. A scene of him refusing anal in a fic is like a cherry on top top for me LMAO
No.5105
>>5103I've noticed this too, that it's a troupe mostly restricted to older works. That's where I learned to love it, when I was first getting into it and all I read/watched was the older stuff. I guess this would be encouragement to go back and read titles that aren't in the lime light anymore
No.5107
>>5104oh a buck-tick fan!
although in my previous post i said that i have no preference regarding who tops and who bottoms for this type of dynamic, you make a very compelling case for the more masculine one being the seme tbh. i imagine he would also have a more intense approach when topping, which is interesting to see.
tbh i also like the seme being the less stereotypically masculine of the two because i imagine it as his quiet assured nature bringing the obnoxious, genki bottom to his knees is also fun! he would be a more stern, slightly sadistic seme, or perhaps a service top?
i apply these views to sugusato/satosugu the most but that's just bc they're my current otp i feel. also omg im clogging up the site with their art recently…
>>5103goated taste nona! junterro was my favorite out of the junjous. and yeah, it really has fallen off. i blame the woke crowd for it, but maybe there are other factors at play here too.
No.5113
Gay for you lovers!
It's so romantic to have a character fight against everything he thinks he knows about himself to accept that he's in love. I love it even more as double-sided pining.
>>5105It has kind of died a dlow death as bi headcanons take over as a justification for yaoi, ie previously you'd just say a straight character was gay for a single guy now you can just say he's bi to excuse shipping instead and most fandom-adjacent peoe will accept it.
Not really the same thing since I like the sexuality crisis that comes with gay for you, but some stuff under the internalized homophobia tag still scratches that itch when well-written.
No.5114
The amount of fujo fanart 2D dudes are getting. Have multiple folders that contain more than 10000 pics per series, my Transformer and Golden Kamuy folders have more than 20000 pics each. A recent pairing I got into already has 2000+ pics and they are just two older antagonistic weirdos and side characters.
And 99% of all of that fanart is either directly fujo or made by fujos. Some series or games I haven't even played yet like Disco Elysium and Mouthwashing have so much stunning fanart that I save it before even shipping anything. The enjoyment continues even after a series has ended thanks to fanart. Pretty, funny or hot pics are like additional content making me enjoy a series twice as much.
Feels good.
No.5115
>>5113>sexuality crisisI miss this. It’s so sad to see it almost disappear nowadays especially in works set in the past. I’m tired of suspending my disbelief that someone from ye olden days would be completely normal about being gay despite it having been a persecutable offense in most countries before the 21st century (and it’s still illegal in a lot of countries).
No.5116
>>5115I feel you. I don't like it when it's tragic and when the political aspect is the focus. But I still wish it emitted some sense of illegality. Not because I want the characters to suffer, I just believe it improves the immersion while simultaneously making the love between them more important. They know it's not "normal" but do it regardless.
It also has the nice side effect of feeling more special. Like having them heading into the woods in the evening to hunt or search for herbs, berries, bugs whatever but using this mostly as an excuse to fuck or kiss each other since they don't have to bother about other people seeing them there. It's also interesting if they're close friends/comrades and but hiding this specific aspect of them and you get all other dudes being cool with them because they don't see it. Maybe nowadays everybody would assume it, but back then they didn't expect close friends to be gay, simply because it was such a sacrilege. So they don't have to hide everything, but certain aspects of it.
Really it can add another special layer to a romance. I absolutely need more gay knights, priests and samurai.
No.5123
>>5107Oh, someone the recognizes them! :D
I totally can go in the opposite direction though, even though I like the straight guy as seme more! If Atsushi is on top, then it feels closer to their stage interactions lol. Just throwing himself onto his straight friend without care~
>his quiet assured nature bringing the obnoxious, genki bottom to his knees is also fun! Omg that's kinda how I imagine Aki/Denji from Chainsaw man haha. Ah you have good taste in dynamics ^^ Everyoneee keeps telling me to read JJK, maybe one day
No.5126
>>5100Gegero/Mizuki has the added "the only human" too. ?
No.5245
>>5240I like when the saliva lands on one of their chins and he doesn't react to it, he just looks dazed and drooly like he's hungry for more.
No.5260
Pairings where both characters look like semes lol
Even better if both of them are also largely acting like some. I prefer it if the weaknesses of the uke are more subtle. Like a strong but aggressive guy whose weakness is that very hot-headedness that he has while the other dude is the cool one.
Bonus if the the cool top is also of a lower rank than the guy that bottom or his sidekick. I wish it wasn't so rare though. I rarely get into actual BL though so it's enough to me if they give off these vibes but even that isn't as common as you might assume it to be.
No.5261
>>5260This kinda sounds like Kiribaku MHA. Ironically it's my NOTP, but if it clicks with you, you have a gigantic backlog of quality art/doujins/fics.
No.5453
>>5450lmao the leonard on fujochan jumpscare
I absolutely do NOT want Drakengard in the hands of modern fandom. The only other character I can think of who kind of comes close is Sergeant Hatred from The Venture Brothers, who unlike Leonard crossed the line of pedophile into actual child molester. I think they are both interesting characters just because they are allowed to be on screen for the duration of the game/show instead of some kind of "lmao the pedo died, good" scenario. They both have cool/noble moments that make you go "aw yay" but then "oh right, pedophile" that hits you like a bucket of cold water.
No.5456
>>5453OT but I always die inside when they draw characters with the fucking baby feet.
No.5457
>>5453>I absolutely do NOT want Drakengard in the hands of modern fandomI've gotten the impression that it's been flying under the radar and it will likely stay that way since as far as I know it's still stuck on non-modern hardware, unlike Nier.
No.5460
>>5457I'd rather Drakengard die forever than see it modernized and censored. And the original US release already was.
I was there when Drakengard 3 released.
Pre-release threads were the usual drakengard levels of non-shitty discussion on /v/. Game drops, it's shit central and thankfully the girls being canonically horny all the time actually put people off.
I was there for NieR Automata's release too. Exactly the same thing but now, NieR is just 2B posting from people who didn't even play the game. It's ruined. I don't want Yoko Taro to soften his stories because antis have 0 media literacy. Brother Nier being a child sex worker already got buried because people don't read, and lol, the Drama CDs may as well not exist.
No.5463
>>5460Nier Automata was the nail in the coffin for comfy all day 500 cap Drakengard/Nier threads. Despite liking the game I almost wish I could delete it Nier ending D style and undo the damage it did to what I consider the "real" fandom.
I wish they adapted the Drama CD story into the remake like they did some of the Grimoire Nier content.
There's Tyrann/Emil brainworms in there. No.5472
>>5460>>5457>>5453God the drama about Drakengard with the way random purity culture is would be actual chaos, the way the original was still censored is disheartening but I suppose it is better than getting fully butchered, sad there's not much modern discussion about it
I remember suffering through drakengard when I was much younger and not understanding any of the themes and ended up reading a walkthrough for it instead, I remember being shocked about Leonard's secret since with the exception of that one scene where he gulps when Seere hugs him there's really nothing to indicate this
>lmao the leonard on fujochan jumpscare He's the pinnacle of toxic yaoi whether he wants to be or not
No.5786
>>5744Thanks for the rec nonna it was the exact type of story I was looking for!