/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

https://x.com/hahaha3/status/1917860293998477396 This user made a chart on how doujin culture differs between men and women and it seems pretty interesting, like how the second to last point is about how women are more hesitant to earn a profit on their works while men will just set the price to whatever they want. I'm not confident enough about my japanese to make a translation of the chart so I'm presenting it as is.

>>8548
I remember seeing some controversy surrounding doujin culture between men and women (because of umamusu artist making profit off skeb and fantia and people going 'you deserve being punished!' 'this wouldn't happen in fujo circles!') and aren't nip fujos (yumes too) too unnecesarily autistic?
Like looking at the picture, I have no idea why uploading pics of your loot is considered a bad thing. This is common all the time for everything. Same with the autistic need to 'not gain any profit from doujins', male doujinka don't give a shit.
Is it really just the typical japanese commonality of being "humble" and "generous" forever even if it's completely unnecesary?

>>8558
It's femininity, making money is bad (=self-interested) you see
>I have no idea why uploading pics of your loot is considered a bad thing
Yeah it makes no sense. Posting loot is fun

Both would be the best, but I care about the characters being interesting more, for me personally the characters being engaging on their own is more important than interactions, especially if most of the interactions are cookie-cutter, if they don't have an interesting story or origin even, I am not really going to be into them.
My favorite dynamic is antagonist/antihero/antagonist with redemption arc with hero, and often thankfully the nemesis gets a great design, even better than the mains.

Daredevil is a good example of a general vice shift. In any another context Matt/Foggy would have been the most popular shit, but Foggy looked like he was objectively and canonically an unattractive guy and so it got pushed aside in comparison to Daredevil/Punisher (a more typical rivals ship), but around 3-4 years Matt/Foggy became popular and surpassed Daredevil/Punisher, so I think again there is a shift where dynamics and character interaction prevail over just looks

>>4609
Harry Du Bois/Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium
Roadhog/Junkrat from Overwatch

>>8355
The dragon boy on that first one is cute. Switch his position and state of undress with the woman and I will now play your game.

>>8353
>at least my skills are leveled up for the next ship
In theory yes and I hope for that for you, but I've seen some writers that have been for 2 decades in the game if not more, and havent really improved lel

New thread since this one hit bump limit which is 500 for the newfags
>>8357

R/AO3 can be a little obnoxious at times but I do like threads like these:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1itksra/any_scene_in_a_fic_or_popular_characterization_in/
Because I can get a glimpse of the state of things in fandoms I otherwise would never have glanced at. It's pretty fascinating to look through. Especially the ones like picrel where they go on about a specific incarnation of a character that ultimately lead to a sort of spiral downward.

>>7608
Some of these fics would never exist if they'd at least read one spiderman comic .

>>7636
This!

The MCU has done a lot of harm to Peter's perception. Before that there was always the issue of a lot of Spider media leaning way to far into High School BS and having the character age only to keep reverting him, but at least the core elements are relatively consistent.

Peter is young and cocky, but also forced to grow up too fast due to dead caketakers, he is also usually works alone and is smart and strong enough to solve most issues with a few rotating confidants and other NY heros. Everything the MCU brought to the table with Tony Stark just ruins the core appeal of the character and makes him less relatable. With old characters like this people can of course try new things, but imo MCU Peter might as well be a different hero and doesn't have the same appeal at all.

>>7406
All of what I've seen lately has been in the same vein–het or f/f people fruitlessly trying to quash m/m through shame. The most amusing instance of this has been people acting like Sephiroth/Cloud is some new shit only freaks like and not a nearly thirty year old fujo staple. It's about as old as Spock/Kirk was when I first started getting into fandom!

>>7402
I can only think of cases where a gay pairing is disliked by people who ship one of the guys with a female character. On top of my head, I sometimes see JJK fans on my tl on twitter who ship either Gojo/Geto or Geto/Gojo arguing with Gojo/Utahime shippers because these ones like to start shit with them, allegedly at least. The people involved are mostly female fans, but sometimes I see male shonentards arguing that the main character of their favorite series has to end with the "heroine" of the series, so they were shitting all over bakudeku fans even more than usual because of the epilogue, but on the other hand they've been coping hardcore over JJK so they're delusional and saying things about how Megumi/Hana or Yuji/literal who from his class in middle school are canon. There's also whatever happened with the second season of Arcane but I have no context since I haven't watched the show, but it's another case of a gay pairing and a straight pairing involving the same guy so fans are arguing. I really can't think of recent gay ship wars.

>>7402
I expected my fandom to turn into a ship war after half of our ship got NTR'ed by a third man who is now together with the other half but I guess we're all just dirty fujos so we ended up shipping both at the same time, making threesomes or focus on one of the two ships but enjoy art with the respective other regardless.

High chance I wouldn't notice if there is a ship war anywhere, though. Believe it or not, I MISSED the Voltron ship war back then and only know it from complaints people have made years later, even though I was active in those years. Was obsessed with a game related ship and didn't notice anything else.

>>6822
Japanese artists tend to be paranoid about their privacy/anonymity and dissemination of their work. We all know that they sperg out about reposting art and fujos probably more so because they’re used to getting hate for being fujo/female otaku. Japanese artists will usually dedicate an account to one fandom /pairing/character and abandon the account or priv/delete when they lose interest to minimise their digital trail and make it harder to trace back to an actual person. They also act paranoid about foreigners, one time a gonkillu artist blew up and started getting harassed by American shounentards telling her to kill herself and she went private, so I kind of understand it, but it’s annoying RIP to all the good art lost thanks to schizos

>>6859
No he's the JP equivalent of the gay stereotypical flamboyant man who uses female pronouns to refer to himself. I think the EN wiki is wishy-washy on him but there is no doubt he's just supposed to be gay.

>>6667
>>6666
Thank you, this is really useful. Also, kiriban get. How do I write 'Anti anti' and 'anti AI' in JP? Like, what is the common term?

>>6669
>Anti anti
I doubt you'd need this, proship/anti stuff doesn't really exist on JP side so they'd probably assume you're not an anti in the first place if you're chill. For AI I've seen JP users put "No AI" or AI with the X/stop emoji

>>6669
Personally I used the stop emoji before these things. Namely because I saw others doing it lol.
Maybe anti isn't needed as >>6670 says but don't speak Japanese well so I also use English and I made the experience that a few fans grew vary of me when they found me but calmed down and followed after they learned that I accept all form of shippings in fanart. I later added the sign in the bio just to be sure, since some of them made had experiences with antis it seems. But if you only post in JP to begin with you don't need it. But add the fujo sign.
Technically saying that you're fujo should already include that you are against anti.

>>6251
You didn't answer my actual point, but oh well. I've already accepted there isn't a good term for the archetype I enjoy. And with that we're at Bumplimit and need a new thread.

>>6250
in my life i saw more on the left side the yuri community than the yaoi one lol and usually people who bring up "canon this and that" are a) haters of the ship or the manga/anime b) chuds bothered by gay fanart

>>6249
Where is the megane option?

>>4480
>>4467
Having a comment option on a bl appgame sounds so fucking funny lol, petition to implement this for all blvns

https://youtu.be/7kNt5P7-zKo?si=Ms4DjTzsi6gnVncs
Please tell me someone else remembers this shit, the way this abridged series literally shaped my humour for the worse during my formative years lmao, every other day shit from this series just runs through my head and I have literally no one I can explain it to, I remember being distraught when the whole series was removed from YouTube, the first part about junjou egoist seems to be actual lost media as though the other parts have been salvaged that one is no where to be found

For anyone who cares, here's a YouTube video archiving a very short BL VN that was considered 'lost' until the video was uploaded. If anyone has an interest in it, you may want to save the video in case YouTube ever takes it down.

Sometimes you're perusing the bottom of the barrel of your fandom and see some wtf crossovers.

>>1542
To be honest I could never get into crackship since the dynamic is all that makes ships attractive to me and you basically have to make up the whole dynamic yourself for crack and my autism won't let me drift away too much from canon anyway.
I am usually indifferent though but I can dislike it if it blows up like in one of my fandoms where crack stuff has overtaken the canon ships and the heavily hinted ships and none of the crack makes any sort of sense. It's entirely OC and headcanon based with the skins of existing characters so I cannot even view the characters as the ones I like. Maybe I lack the imagination, no idea.

>>5934
Do you think if there was a perceived dynamic in a crossover ship you could get into it? Say criminal from one series, police officer from another, or is that still too far removed from source?