No.9440
Rivals to lovers is boring and feel like the lazy ship choice most of the time.
No.9445
>>9441Robots with assholes make no sense unless they're sexbots. Not that it's the only way to be uke but the mainstream BL audience isn't wireplaypilled.
No.9446
>>9442I've seen more and more people online say Clear should have been uke </3
No.9447
>>9445>Robots with assholes make no sense unless they're sexbots.But robots with penises do????
>>9441Extremely based.
No.9448
>>9446A couple of people misremember him being an uke which I don't really get because of his bad end and parts of his dick flaking off into Aoba's asshole in his good end.
I suppose dumb semes are kinda underrated because of that.
No.9449
>>9447>But robots with penises do????True, they don't, but I feel like either way if you have one LI in a BL game who can't fuck traditionally it'll sadly filter the majority of people.
No.9450
>>9447>But robots with penises do????with robo-jizz too…
>>9448the bad ending was so fucking hot
No.9455
>>9440I got bored of it for a long time but now I'm back on my bullshit. I think the more mundane a rivalship, the less interesting it is. If there's another element to add spice, like they're also enemies or brothers or something, it gets better.
When I think of rivalships I consider top quality, they're pretty much all enemies or started as enemies…
No.9456
>>9438Probably not that unpopular (at least not here, maybe) but what I've thought has been:
>Hypermasc semes and shy uguu ukes have always been shit. >"Fuck canon" isn't a good mindset to have if you completely ignore everything the character stood for. If you headcanonize a character so much that they no longer resemble anything of the original, did you ever like that character at all?>Simultaneously, being a hardass over canon and canonicity is also annoying. Not everything needs to be canon, not everything needs a "erm this character cannot fuck another character because he's canonically married to a woman" or dumb shit like that. Canonhomofags are the worst.>I fucking hate threesome ships and specially polyships where the only reason why there's a third character involved it's only so they can get humilliated and cucked. >Actually polyshipping in general is dogshit>People need to stop sucking off eastern artists because they have the most retarded lowkey misogynistic takes too on shipping. Some of them have moid tier coombrain logic and try to apply it to BL No.9457
>>9443its a little sad that hes the only nitro chiral shota, he was so cute
No.9458
>>9456>Actually polyshipping in general is dogshitI also think it's garbage. The only time I've ever been convinced that a polyship was the way to go was in a fanfic with bodyswapping involved that resulted in a lot of crossed wires for the characters, but I think the story would've been even better if they hadn't all ended up in a poly relationship anyway because at least two of the relationships made no sense and one of them was clearly just a sexual relationship.
>they have the most retarded lowkey misogynistic takes too on shippingI agree. I think at least the Japanese fujos have gotten better at not being retarded about gender roles in recent years, but it's still there. Chinese and Korean fujos are absolutely overrun with it though.
No.9460
>>9456>I fucking hate threesome ships and specially polyshipsDifferent reasons to you anon. They're usually used as a band aid solution to ship wars in a "can't we all just get along?" way but when you scroll through the user's profile and you'll instantly know they're disingenuous. Nevermind if you're actually interested in the polyship and got duped by them. Same way switch shippers try to be superior by saying they have no drama. Really need people to be honest and get off their high horses.
No.9462
i've only read 2 volumes of hikaru ga shinda natsu but it's been a slog to get through. if it was meant to be an exploration of grief the characters' interactions (past and present) are too boring to make me care about their relationship. if it's meant to explore humanity vs monsters there's nothing much going on in that aspect. and as a supernatural series with horror elements none of plot developments or environments feel remotely unsettling. the art is incredible for sure, but even with the mangaka's technical skill i can't quite buy into the horror atmosphere.
the only thing that could hook me in is the fujobait, but then again i don't care for the characters, and appparently monster sex is completely off the books. i guess that's it for me with this series and author.
No.9469
>>9462I want someone else to steal the main concept of Hikaru ga Shinda Natsu and make a BL out of it where the monster literally learns what sexual attraction and human love and emotion is after becoming partially human as someone keeping up with the series. I actually might apply that concept to another fandom with similar characters.
No.9473
>>9472Use Google Translate on your phone. Its tedious and not a perfect translation, but its good enough and better than nothing.
No.9474
>>9473There used to be an injector you could load VNs into to have them run through google translate as you read, I'm suprised no one has made a better version using AI yet.
No.9475
>>9474Oh yeah I saw something like that while I was trying to see how Id play Shingakko in Japanese. But I just went the more accessible albeit inconvenient route. It did its job but I had to wave my hand in front of the camera so it would do a new translation.
But yeah I am surprised too that someone hasn't worked on an improved one since there are so many untranslated VNs.
No.9478
>>9473I could do that yeah but something about machine translations always bothers my autism, it just doesn't sound right for me even when the scanlator cleans up the mistakes. It is indeed better than nothing tho so I might do that.
>>9477I do wanna learn Japanese and have tried a few times but I always get overwhelmed and end up dropping it, even I have a hard time remembering katakana and hiragana. I do wanna learn it, I just gotta see what tools are the best and to get in the right mindset.
No.9482
>I don't like fixed ships, riba is always a fun thing to picture. >Can't get into Harada at all, i don't get the hype. I still need to try and get into her manga>I like uke x uke. I want to see two pretty bishies or handsome guys squirming together… >>9441>The best ships are between two characters that both look like ukes in some way.Hell yeah
No.9484
>>9477nta, but there's already a djt thread. its pretty dead though
>>>/ot/365 No.9494
Big, muscular bottoms are gross and preferring them while constantly shitting on people who like smaller bottoms doesn't make you subversive and Not Like Other Fujos when shit like muscular bottoms and old man yaoi been a growing trend for years.
No.9495
>>9494Sorry nonna I love old man yaoi and I have for years, I don't think it's "not like the other girls" either, I think it's just people growing up and liking more than they previously would.
No.9498
>>9495The point was about people who like it and brag about having a subversive taste than "other fujos".
No.9499
>>9498Same with the switchfags and the polytards. They can't help but to act NLOF and be smug about it
No.9500
>>9494I love muscular bottoms but I never understood bragging about it, it makes sense why someone prefers small bottoms so to be all smug cuz you have a different taste just seems like a waste of time.
No.9506
>>9499Based and truthpilled take. 4 out ot 5 times switchfags are absolutely insufferable in their smugness.
>Errrrm, I don't understand other fujos' obsession with fixed dynamics? Maybe it's just me, but that's like heterofying the ship to me? I know other fujos are vapid bitches who only like AB, but I can enjoy all of the content made because I actually love switching! It's SO much more realistic, you know!>Proceeds to only post 95% BA despite being a self-proclaimed switchfag because it's just a decoy to shit on AB shippers No.9507
>>9506Sometimes I do have a top/bottom preference but I love it more when I find a couple I like to switch on equal amounts. I like it when there is equality in my relationships and it gets less boring with the predictability of who gets what kind of romantic or intimate treatment.
Something very intimate and raw about the usual top becoming the bottom, too.
t.smug switchfag
No.9508
>>9506I like both fixed and fluid because I love variety. I think both sides have a strange tendency to make their own likes law without compromising with others. People love different shit, I'm no different, you're no different. None of us are, so why do switch fags feel the need to make their taste novel from the rest?
No.9510
>>9508Because they get a lot of hate from purists for no reason?
The best part about being the superior switchfag is that I am 100% shielded from the "but why not a woman?" from the editors that want to open the doors to bisexual tops and love triangles that include women.
But its really because I want them to exchange their love equally :3
No.9513
Speaking of switchfagging, I hate multishippers.
People whose only enjoyment of shipping depends on how pretty an art looks like or if something has more amount of fics, more fanart, more artists, etc. Just full on consooom, without having any real dedication or care for the actual ship in question.
It's just vapidness to me. If you don't have an OTP or you don't have any real thoughts on why you like (a ship) or (your ship, assumedly OTP) but yet despite having an "OTP" you still like any of the characters with anyone else, you're not a real shipper and you don't count. You're just a coomer consoomer fujo to me.
No.9514
>>9513I respect your dedication but I just think this sounds mental. Being fujoshi by definition is just liking m/m pairings, and by extension not self-inserting.
No.9515
I assume this is not a very popular opinion since I've legit never met anyone else who feels this way, but I really, really don't like genderbends/nyota, whether it's hetbending or nyota yuri. I don't like the fact that it just feels like an excuse to turn male characters into tittymonsters, there's absolutely 0 consideration for how a male character would actually look like as a woman, and also the fact that genderbending is basically synonymous to male charas being turned into women, while female charas almost never get turned into men makes me feel like it's just an excuse to draw coomshit where it doesn't belong. If I wanted waifus, I'd look up art of waifus. This didn't use to be such a big landmine for me but I feel like the amount of nyota shit has been increasing year after year, to the point there's straight up JP artists who exclusively draw m/m ships as either hetships or yuri. I'm not attracted to women, I do not look up yaoi art to look at pin ups of women. Why is this so common and how do I make it stop.
No.9516
>>9508It's not novel but it's not a majority thing either, so i get it. Bragging about what makes you squee is childish though, it's too personal and not even something you fully control.
>>9494>and old man yaoi been a growing trend for years.This, posts about old man yaoi being le freaky kinky patrician taste get tens of thousands of likes. It's absurd
>>9515>Why is this so commonThere are more bisexual women among fujos than in the larger population
No.9517
>>9515I totally feel you. Even though I'm the type of person who will look at straight ships sometimes I absolutely hate it when someone hetbends a gay ship.
No.9518
>>9516No one is really bragging *unironically*. Its just a knee jerk reaction to people taking offense that people like verse couples. Sometimes I have a preference but I just cant with the role autism I see posted sometimes. But I dont bring it up because I dont go after other fujos.
>>9515Absolutely. I get it if people want to get creative but there's already so many characters of the sex that they are drawing as so why go out of your way to change it? I dont like it either.
No.9519
>>9513I’m curious if you’re fine with BLVNs with multiple love interests due to routes or if this only applies to OTPs for you
No.9520
>>9513Multishipping doesn't mean shipping everything. It means enjoying more than one dynamic in the story with certain characters. Can you watch Gintama and tell me with a straight face that Gintoki doesn't have chemistry with multiple guys?
And shipping doesn't = endgame. Maybe you see one particular guy as Guy A's perfect husband, but another guy as hatesex material, and another guy as a one time fuck. You can enjoy exploring all of these different possibilities.
Using Gintama as an example, Takasugi and (sorta) Hijikata would be the hate sex, Sougo would be the rando fling, Kamui would be the yandere noncon, and Madao would be the endgame husband.
No.9521
>>9516>This, posts about old man yaoi being le freaky kinky patrician taste get tens of thousands of likes. It's absurdAs an ojisan enjoyer, these posts just make me roll my eyes because I know 90% of the time that they have someone who's barely even 30 or younger in mind like Reigen or maybe an immortal cdrama guy who looks like a twink or some shit.
No.9524
>>9514>>9519I can enjoy other ships in other media and I can like a character with multiple ones in one franchise but in another franchise I may have one ever-constant OTP.
When interacting in a fan circle with people who like my OTP, I don't want to share space with people who just consider my OTP a "side-dish". Like they like/consume (ship 1) related art/fic while not actually understanding it's appeal or doing shit like another anon said "god I wish I was the seme/god I wish I was the uke" and constantly jumping from ship to ship.
When I have an actual dedication to a ship, I'd want to talk with actual shippers of that ship, not consoomers. Because consoomers never have anything meaningful to say, and they're always the one who jump to one franchise to the next anyway once the (current ships) are no longer interesting.
No.9525
>>9523Well people are using this as Shit You Hate 2.0 instead of posting their actual unpopular opinion.
>>9522>>9521Same I hate it when I'm looking for actual old men and people post characters who aren't even older than me lol.
No.9526
>>9524I thought the typical pattern of Migratory Slash Fandom is to jump from juggernaut to juggernaut. Like, going from Destiel to Kylux to Wangxian to Jayvik. Either way it's always pretty easy to tell the difference between people who are dedicated and people who are enjoying ATG type of content. And at least in JP fandom spaces, the uke character x all crowd will usually clearly label.
No.9527
>>9526Migratory Slash Fandom implies that the juggernaut du jour is also shallow/has very little canon basis. On that list only Kylux is pure MSF. Further reading:
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Migratory_Slash_FandomThe name for the girlies who are somehow always into a juggernaut ship is simply "lucky bitches" haha
No.9528
I don’t think I have any truly unpopular fujo opinions. I feel like most opinions will have supporters and dissenters. But I guess it’s probably unpopular with non-slasher-fujos and definitely unpopular with non-fujos, but I love when fujos cry over their ship not being canonized. I like when there’s a fujo meltdown because [insert ship here] didn’t become canon or got letdown by canon. I know it’s considered cringe to care that much over a ship (especially if your an adult), but I like that they cared enough to have a meltdown. I feel like it shows their dedication to the ship. Also there tends to be a boost in fanart and fanfic of the ship in question, so even if I’m not a huge fan of the ship, I still get giddy just thinking about how fujos are just that good at getting to work. The epitome of doing it yourself.
>>9523Kek I love experiencing the classic riba fujo vs fixed fujo fights though
No.9529
>>9518>No one is really bragging *unironically*.I wasn't thinking about you or the other switchfags on fujochan!
>I just cant with the role autism I see posted sometimes.Yeah, it's a little confusing
No.9531
>>9526>>9527I think jimcurly is probably the biggest example of a juggernaut bait ship because I can't imagine anyone seriously actively getting attached to a ship where one of the guys is a literal nugget and the other a misogynist rapist for a very long time
No.9534
>>9524I'd say I agree then, I got annoyed when I clicked on a pixiv set that had mostly a BL ship I'm not into and then like one of my pic OTP.
No.9535
As a multishipper I am the person discord mods hate because I turn up and live write a 2000 word essay of character/dynamic analysis out of nowhere, then come back two days later with a different one. Nobody knows which ship I'll hit next and while I'm pointing at manga chapters and lines of dialogue from episodes, somehow it's stuff that contradicts what other users "headcanon" about them, and when they do agree I feel rather like I'm betraying them when the same guys are then with someone else.
Anyway, I don't think about it usually, but I am consistently drawn to BLpoi fiction that could be jokingly interpreted as a harem. One thing that appeals to me about ABO AUs is being able to acknowledge the harem as a harem without the meta tongue in cheek. I think joking about harems was more popular in the 00s when actual harem genre anime were commonplace but these days there's not many people who try to negotiate a character being in numerous simultaneous relationships and practicing different positions in each. So that preference is probably unpopular? I should also state that the nature of the harem and who collected or gathered first is different in each case, and the harem members end up with their own dynamics. This makes it sound like a mess, and I'm sure part of it is indecision because I want to be kind to each character and explore all parts of them, but I also like the "protagonist" having some desirable charisma.
No.9536
>>9533Ironically I don't get Adachi/Souji at all, but mainly because Adachi/Doujima is better in every imaginable way. With Souji they barely interact and while the
accomplice ending is fun I just struggle to see any chemistry or real underlying romance unlike say Souyou where they is semi-canon onesided pining. Doujima and Adachj on the other hand regularly get drunk together, have the weird ackward domestic dynamic with Nanako, and you can play with jealously and resentment over
Chisato. Fuck, one of these days I need to write my shipping manifesto on them.
I haven't tried Mouthwashing yet, but I liked How Fish is Made so I'll probably check it out at some point, if there wasn't someone here who kept bringing it up I wouldn't even know it had a large shipping community though. As an outsider I see more art of the woman that anything else. I guess quad amputee can appeal to someone though haha.
No.9537
>>9536>Ironically I don't get Adachi/Souji at allThe accomplice ending is gay as hell, their team up in arena was super fujo, Yu is super obsessed with still being besties with Adachi in cross tag battle and everything with the ending of the P4 golden anime lead into that even harder (you're part of our family Adachi san etc etc)
I get Dojima/Adachi but to me it doesn't have nearly as much fujobait as Adachi/Yu, also I like tsundere semes.
No.9538
>>9537Yeah I can see the appeal of Arena stuff (Haven't played Cross-tag didn't realize it had a plot will need to look into that). Part of it is also just thinking all Persona MCs are boring tbh
No.9539
>>9533Hey, Adachi didn't impregnate someone and traumatized them making that 90% of the game. Even though Adachi has had misogynistic dialogue, it's not to the same level as Jimmy. There's something more endearingly pathetic about Adachi while Jimmy is more "typical moid" coded
No.9540
>>9538>Part of it is also just thinking all Persona MCs are boring tbhI've always been a silent protagonist shipper, but I get that it's not for everyone.
>>9539I get the appeal of it, sometimes you just wanna see an incel get some dick/ass from a guy. I guess it comes from a level of irony since characters like Jimmy would most likely be homophobic kek.
I just don't really get how the game got so gigantic so quickly.
No.9541
>>9540>I just don't really get how the game got so gigantic so quickly.You can probably blame Markiplier. He already did it before with FNAF.
No.9556
Here's a real unpopular opinion:
I don't hate mpreg and sometimes I like it depending on the context. ABO context sucks because it's retarded, why even have human females in that universe? But the old school method of these magical ass babies or fade to black is fine.
No.9557
I love that stupid “b-but we’re both boys” shit so much, and I don’t care that it’s cringe. I think it’s lame when people say they’re glad BL has moved on from it. NO. We should NEVER move away from it. You can pry my “I’m totally straight (said while being actively fucked in the ass by another man)” yaoi from my cold, dead hands.
I don’t know if this belongs here or in “Shit You Like,” but I’m putting it here because I’ve seen a LOT of discussions online where people name this as the worst BL trope, as well as people asking for recommendations that don’t employ this trope. When people recommend a series with the lack of this as a selling point, I stay far away from it.
No.9558
>>9557I agree with you, nona (and I love that you specified that the uke is the one doing it…). Do you prefer it in the context of 'being in the closet and insisting on being ttly straight' or 'usually goes for girls, but not this time'?
No.9559
>>9557Kek I hate that trope and I'm glad BL has moved on from it. I get why it's appealing because taboos always have their own essence to them and I guess breaking straight men is a fetish for some but I'm honestly so tired of half of the story going into the characters struggling with their sexuality instead of building the relationship with shared moments without the constant nagging "b-but he's a man, I'm not into men!" thought interrupting it.
No.9560
>>9557Gasp! I'm old enough that almost every single yaoi had to include some flavor of this so I don't like it at all.
I want them to love it, I want them to crave it, I want them to think about it, I want them to desire it, I want them to fantasize about it, I want them to revel in it!
No.9561
>>9557I'm with you and it makes me sad it isn't as common anymore. Personally I love things like forbidden love and slowburn pining so that trope is what drew me into yaoi all those years ago.
No.9562
I just can't get into sports anime. Even in the rare instance when the art is cute and appealing, my eyes just glaze over the moment sports ball happens. Yes, this includes Free
No.9563
>>9562Same, I felt bad for my friend when she showed me Kuroko and was so excited but I was bored out of my skull though kek.
Closest I've got to enjoying a sports anime is SK8.
No.9565
>>9562Which ones have you watched nonna? Because not all of them are made equal, some are better than others.
No.9566
>>9562My confession is that sports animanga has made me more interested in sports than anything else ever has. I know more about basketball than ever after Kuroko and Slam Dunk. Sports are retarded but the sheer gayness and size of the male cast in most sports shit plus lack of female love interest is worth it. Maybe fc needs a sports animanga tier list? Idk if Captain Tsubasa will evet be worth it but I wanna the Prince of Tennis
the protagonist looks made for dick No.9568
>>9566>TeniPuri mention>that spoilerLmao anon, that killed me but you aren't wrong.
TeniPuri is my peak cbdct anime. Most of the dudes are handsome, beautiful, cute or at least have some moe traits that make them attractive and there's like a million ship combinations, even husbandos if you're also into that. I mostly recommend the first anime season+ovas and reading the manga+sequel (even if this last one introduces a ton of more guys, some of them kinda ugly imo) but the series is super fun. I watched it when I was 14 and after rewatching/rereading it all this year, 15 years later, I believe it still holds up. There's a reason it's one of the biggest spokon franchises still alive and why it got so much merch, adaptations, fanart, djs, even an otome game.
The only thing I could see people having a problem is the fact that all of the guys are in middle school but since they look and sound like adults it's not as bad.
The moe, lots of different interactions and rivalries/friendships between the characters, the music is nice (so many character/pair songs, first op is fucking good imo), even the anime filler is good. There's so much I love about TeniPuri… Just make sure to stay away from all anime adaptations after the 1st season, but especially the World Cup one lol. Fucking disrepect.
Another thing, Ryoma (the MC) is kind of a Gary Stu so if you don't like that kind of protagonists, your enjoyment may not be much. I love him to death, I think he's pretty cute and charismatic and he's my favorite male character of all time (his seiyuu is also my favorite female seiyuu) but I understand he's not for everyone, though there's other boys that are also super moe in other ways.
Now after writing all this, I'm left with the urge of rewatching it again haha.