/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>9526
Migratory Slash Fandom implies that the juggernaut du jour is also shallow/has very little canon basis. On that list only Kylux is pure MSF. Further reading: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Migratory_Slash_Fandom

The name for the girlies who are somehow always into a juggernaut ship is simply "lucky bitches" haha

I don’t think I have any truly unpopular fujo opinions. I feel like most opinions will have supporters and dissenters. But I guess it’s probably unpopular with non-slasher-fujos and definitely unpopular with non-fujos, but I love when fujos cry over their ship not being canonized. I like when there’s a fujo meltdown because [insert ship here] didn’t become canon or got letdown by canon. I know it’s considered cringe to care that much over a ship (especially if your an adult), but I like that they cared enough to have a meltdown. I feel like it shows their dedication to the ship. Also there tends to be a boost in fanart and fanfic of the ship in question, so even if I’m not a huge fan of the ship, I still get giddy just thinking about how fujos are just that good at getting to work. The epitome of doing it yourself.
>>9523
Kek I love experiencing the classic riba fujo vs fixed fujo fights though

>>9518
>No one is really bragging *unironically*.
I wasn't thinking about you or the other switchfags on fujochan!
>I just cant with the role autism I see posted sometimes.
Yeah, it's a little confusing

>>9526
>>9527
I think jimcurly is probably the biggest example of a juggernaut bait ship because I can't imagine anyone seriously actively getting attached to a ship where one of the guys is a literal nugget and the other a misogynist rapist for a very long time

>>9531
>the other a misogynist rapist
You ever play persona 4?

>>9524
I'd say I agree then, I got annoyed when I clicked on a pixiv set that had mostly a BL ship I'm not into and then like one of my pic OTP.

As a multishipper I am the person discord mods hate because I turn up and live write a 2000 word essay of character/dynamic analysis out of nowhere, then come back two days later with a different one. Nobody knows which ship I'll hit next and while I'm pointing at manga chapters and lines of dialogue from episodes, somehow it's stuff that contradicts what other users "headcanon" about them, and when they do agree I feel rather like I'm betraying them when the same guys are then with someone else.

Anyway, I don't think about it usually, but I am consistently drawn to BLpoi fiction that could be jokingly interpreted as a harem. One thing that appeals to me about ABO AUs is being able to acknowledge the harem as a harem without the meta tongue in cheek. I think joking about harems was more popular in the 00s when actual harem genre anime were commonplace but these days there's not many people who try to negotiate a character being in numerous simultaneous relationships and practicing different positions in each. So that preference is probably unpopular? I should also state that the nature of the harem and who collected or gathered first is different in each case, and the harem members end up with their own dynamics. This makes it sound like a mess, and I'm sure part of it is indecision because I want to be kind to each character and explore all parts of them, but I also like the "protagonist" having some desirable charisma.

>>9533
Ironically I don't get Adachi/Souji at all, but mainly because Adachi/Doujima is better in every imaginable way. With Souji they barely interact and while the accomplice ending is fun I just struggle to see any chemistry or real underlying romance unlike say Souyou where they is semi-canon onesided pining. Doujima and Adachj on the other hand regularly get drunk together, have the weird ackward domestic dynamic with Nanako, and you can play with jealously and resentment over Chisato. Fuck, one of these days I need to write my shipping manifesto on them.

I haven't tried Mouthwashing yet, but I liked How Fish is Made so I'll probably check it out at some point, if there wasn't someone here who kept bringing it up I wouldn't even know it had a large shipping community though. As an outsider I see more art of the woman that anything else. I guess quad amputee can appeal to someone though haha.

>>9536
>Ironically I don't get Adachi/Souji at all
The accomplice ending is gay as hell, their team up in arena was super fujo, Yu is super obsessed with still being besties with Adachi in cross tag battle and everything with the ending of the P4 golden anime lead into that even harder (you're part of our family Adachi san etc etc)

I get Dojima/Adachi but to me it doesn't have nearly as much fujobait as Adachi/Yu, also I like tsundere semes.

>>9537
Yeah I can see the appeal of Arena stuff (Haven't played Cross-tag didn't realize it had a plot will need to look into that). Part of it is also just thinking all Persona MCs are boring tbh

>>9533
Hey, Adachi didn't impregnate someone and traumatized them making that 90% of the game. Even though Adachi has had misogynistic dialogue, it's not to the same level as Jimmy. There's something more endearingly pathetic about Adachi while Jimmy is more "typical moid" coded

>>9538
>Part of it is also just thinking all Persona MCs are boring tbh
I've always been a silent protagonist shipper, but I get that it's not for everyone.
>>9539
I get the appeal of it, sometimes you just wanna see an incel get some dick/ass from a guy. I guess it comes from a level of irony since characters like Jimmy would most likely be homophobic kek.
I just don't really get how the game got so gigantic so quickly.

>>9540
>I just don't really get how the game got so gigantic so quickly.
You can probably blame Markiplier. He already did it before with FNAF.

Here's a real unpopular opinion:
I don't hate mpreg and sometimes I like it depending on the context. ABO context sucks because it's retarded, why even have human females in that universe? But the old school method of these magical ass babies or fade to black is fine.

I love that stupid “b-but we’re both boys” shit so much, and I don’t care that it’s cringe. I think it’s lame when people say they’re glad BL has moved on from it. NO. We should NEVER move away from it. You can pry my “I’m totally straight (said while being actively fucked in the ass by another man)” yaoi from my cold, dead hands.

I don’t know if this belongs here or in “Shit You Like,” but I’m putting it here because I’ve seen a LOT of discussions online where people name this as the worst BL trope, as well as people asking for recommendations that don’t employ this trope. When people recommend a series with the lack of this as a selling point, I stay far away from it.

>>9557
I agree with you, nona (and I love that you specified that the uke is the one doing it…). Do you prefer it in the context of 'being in the closet and insisting on being ttly straight' or 'usually goes for girls, but not this time'?

>>9557
Kek I hate that trope and I'm glad BL has moved on from it. I get why it's appealing because taboos always have their own essence to them and I guess breaking straight men is a fetish for some but I'm honestly so tired of half of the story going into the characters struggling with their sexuality instead of building the relationship with shared moments without the constant nagging "b-but he's a man, I'm not into men!" thought interrupting it.

>>9557
Gasp! I'm old enough that almost every single yaoi had to include some flavor of this so I don't like it at all.
I want them to love it, I want them to crave it, I want them to think about it, I want them to desire it, I want them to fantasize about it, I want them to revel in it!

>>9557
I'm with you and it makes me sad it isn't as common anymore. Personally I love things like forbidden love and slowburn pining so that trope is what drew me into yaoi all those years ago.

I just can't get into sports anime. Even in the rare instance when the art is cute and appealing, my eyes just glaze over the moment sports ball happens. Yes, this includes Free

>>9562
Same, I felt bad for my friend when she showed me Kuroko and was so excited but I was bored out of my skull though kek.
Closest I've got to enjoying a sports anime is SK8.

>>9562
Which ones have you watched nonna? Because not all of them are made equal, some are better than others.

>>9562
My confession is that sports animanga has made me more interested in sports than anything else ever has. I know more about basketball than ever after Kuroko and Slam Dunk. Sports are retarded but the sheer gayness and size of the male cast in most sports shit plus lack of female love interest is worth it. Maybe fc needs a sports animanga tier list? Idk if Captain Tsubasa will evet be worth it but I wanna the Prince of Tennis the protagonist looks made for dick

>>9566
>TeniPuri mention
>that spoiler

Lmao anon, that killed me but you aren't wrong.
TeniPuri is my peak cbdct anime. Most of the dudes are handsome, beautiful, cute or at least have some moe traits that make them attractive and there's like a million ship combinations, even husbandos if you're also into that. I mostly recommend the first anime season+ovas and reading the manga+sequel (even if this last one introduces a ton of more guys, some of them kinda ugly imo) but the series is super fun. I watched it when I was 14 and after rewatching/rereading it all this year, 15 years later, I believe it still holds up. There's a reason it's one of the biggest spokon franchises still alive and why it got so much merch, adaptations, fanart, djs, even an otome game.

The only thing I could see people having a problem is the fact that all of the guys are in middle school but since they look and sound like adults it's not as bad.
The moe, lots of different interactions and rivalries/friendships between the characters, the music is nice (so many character/pair songs, first op is fucking good imo), even the anime filler is good. There's so much I love about TeniPuri… Just make sure to stay away from all anime adaptations after the 1st season, but especially the World Cup one lol. Fucking disrepect.

Another thing, Ryoma (the MC) is kind of a Gary Stu so if you don't like that kind of protagonists, your enjoyment may not be much. I love him to death, I think he's pretty cute and charismatic and he's my favorite male character of all time (his seiyuu is also my favorite female seiyuu) but I understand he's not for everyone, though there's other boys that are also super moe in other ways.
Now after writing all this, I'm left with the urge of rewatching it again haha.

>>9562
Every single time I try watching a sports anime my brain just tunes out. Sports are so boring to me and it pains me how they always have the biggest fujo fandoms yet I can't just get into the sports aspect at all.

>>9569
>my brain just tunes out
This is the moment where you think of smut between your favorites.

>>9571
Kek I did this while watching Dark Elf Healer.
Spent half of the show thinking about the mc getting molested by monster plants haha…
…dwelling on it now, my standards might be a little low.

>>9572
Just looked it up. The MC as in Karla? Sounds like the antithesis of anything I would ever watch or enjoy. Ew.

>>9573
She clealy means Alvin nonna, I dont know why you would asdume otherwise given she included a picture of him what the fuck.

>>9574
Oh whoopsies my bad kekekek

>>9573
The knight anon, look at the picture. Its low standards because you literally can't see his face or body lmao.

>>9558
>Do you prefer it in the context of 'being in the closet and insisting on being ttly straight' or 'usually goes for girls, but not this time'?
That's a hard question to answer because I do like both. For me, the main thing is that the character is deeply in denial about his feelings and feels some form of shame or discomfort with it? I've seen it done well both ways, and as long as that emotional conflict exists, I'm not terribly picky about the exact situation. I've even seen some where the character is entirely straight, but is forced to do gay shit due to circumstance, ends up liking it, and feels really weird about that fact. That's even within my area of interest if handled correctly. I don't know if that makes any sense, and I'm sorry if I didn't exactly answer your question!

>>9539
The only reason why Adachi didn't do all of this is because he accidentally killed his victim before he could have done all of this. If he didn't kill the journalist in her hotel room and get away with it everything would have been even more morbid in the game but in a different way. I can't make any comparison with Mouthwashing and its characters though.

>There's something more endearingly pathetic about Adachi
Unironically I think it's only because he's so obviously based on Matsuda from Death Note and Matsuda is cute. Adachi's incel manifesto from his boss fight was a bit too on the nose and with how vaguely implied the reason why he was sent to a shit hole like Inaba I can't find him too endearing though.

Adachi sucks and the women who husbando him need more self-esteem

>>9562
Me too, and god I tried. The only one I really liked was kuroko no basket and it's just because of Murasakibara, the most beautiful guy I've ever seen in anime.

>>9604
Does sk8 count as sports anime…?
I find sports so boring IRL Eyeshield 21 is the only one I really like that doesn't have a secondary genre, wish I could get into some Slam Dunk and Haikyuu fans eat for days.

I don't care about IRL sports but I find sports anime engaging as long as it gets wacky with the sport like Kuroko and Blue lock. I've tried watching more down to earth sports anime but I couldn't get into it.

I like 2.5D productions, including musicals, and I like when the actors fuck around backstage and interact on friendly terms together out of character too. When I first got truly deep into fujodom people passed around .avi musical downloads like it was the natural extension of the content we used as shipping fuel. You didn't think about it as 3D and you didn't ask what the actors were really like in their personal lives, but you still thought it was cute when they cried in the final curtain call or got a cake slammed in their face.

Now it's hard to find English speaking fujos who even try them. I feel like sometimes it's a landmine to bring up stage performances of any kind, because someone will get offended by the presence of real people or music. I'm glad that fc has the space for people to share these in designated threads, since it's places where everyone is packed in together where I've experienced people make accusations like "people who watch musicals are 3DPD obsessed yume no better than kpop shitters" and "stage shows are nothing but OOC garbage that infest fandoms." People will tell you the songs are low IQ trash with no cultural value, like it's normal to judge weeb media by whether it's comparable to high art from a recognized canon. Male otaku are out there with their silly horsie songs and I just want to giggle at a man pulling a funny face one minute and singing gravely about war the next.

Wishful thinking is that people who don't like what you like are just very vocal and stick out, but without the old LJ comms it's like stages just aren't visible and don't exist for most people. We've got more streaming site options and the ease of google drives but it's a total crapshoot whether you find newer stages. Fandoms just aren't as into them as they used to be.

>>9609
Honestly, I'm one of those people who's never tried them, mainly because my preconceived notion is that I don't like English-language plays, so I assume I won't enjoy Japanese ones either, even with the tantalizing draw of a copyright I like attached to it. I do remember it being bigger than it is now but never gave much thought to why it just disappeared from general fandom consciousness. Do you think it's symptomatic of fandom moving too fast, or something else? Speaking of songs, drama CDs are kind of dead as well; I guess it feels like fandom is more "streamlined" now. You finish the source material, read fanfics, save pretty fan art for a month, and move on. The whole tertiary fan-sphere is much less prevalent.

>>9609
I love them too!

>>9610
>I do remember it being bigger than it is now but never gave much thought to why it just disappeared from general fandom consciousness. Do you think it's symptomatic of fandom moving too fast, or something else?
Last I heard, 2.5D musical fans get really anal about piracy and copyright so they will hunt down illegal reuploads. Though that's just secondhand information someone told me once so I dunno how accurate it is.

>>9609
My problem is that I am not a fan of their acting. Maybe I just need to watch a really good one so that I can get into it enough that I won't mind.
>>9610 at least the costumes are looking really good.

I should be allowed to talk shit about your ship without giving a fuck about your feelings whenever you decide to namesearch ship related shit.
I'm tired of having to play along nicely or never expressing any opinion on disliking something because "that's toxic and bad :("

>>9615
It's not toxic and bad, just invites drama to you and the fandom. I dislike the forced positivity as well but at the same time I think shipping is something you do in your own lane for fun, there is no reason to engage with the ships you dislike and attract interactions with their fans. Replace one letter and now you can rant as much as you.
I have some ships and shippers I absolutely despise, still I wouldn't want to do anything to attract their attention specifically because I hate them so much. Why take a chance of attracting the attention of people you wouldn't want to interact with?

>>9615
I think there is a difference between explaining why you dislike a ship and why you prefer AB to AC and just being a bitch for no reason it's not toxic positivity to not want to get flooded with a million posts about why your rarepair is problematic or bad when opening their tumblr tag. If you don't like something don't engage with it, it's juvenile.

>>9616
>>9617
I don't want the shippers attention or to direct flame them / stalk them to constantly shit on them etc (like I've seen it happen in other fandoms) but simply character bashing / ship bashing in general if I'm just on my own space but without having to feel that need of "what if someone sees it and gets offended by it" which I hate.
I don't post on tumblr but obviously I wouldn't deliberately tag something with the shipname if it's ship hate. But on twitter, there's always people searching for keywords which makes it annoying that if you refer to a ship in some manner, sooner or later somebody will look at it and bring the trouble to you themselves.

>>9618
That's mostly on Twitter being a shit platform. For example, it's annoying when you search for something specific and the result is flooded by posts from someone who has the words you searched for in their name.
I don't use the (for you) tab because the algorithm is untrustworthy so when I'm looking for new people to follow I search the ship name. Jp artists very often mention the ship name but don't use a tag which is also why I got that habit.
If Twitter was a better platform we wouldn't need to censor ourselves but it's shit so better be careful for the sake of everyone who is also dealing with it.

>>9617
>it's not toxic positivity to not want to get flooded with a million posts about why your rarepair is problematic or bad
Yeah but she is not going out of her way to inflame others, she is just venting, it is forced positivity to want everyone to never do or just do "helpful criticism".
Same for characters or even stories, if people want to vent about something they don't like they should be in the right to do so, even if it may be juvenile.

>>9620
Call me a weak bitch but when the only comment I get on my story is "Gross why did you write A/B?" It makes me feel like shit. If someone is venting on their own it's fine, if nonna is posting about it on twitter it's whatever. Getting reblogged with comments and tags about how you're a terrible person just makes me want to disengage.

We're talking about different platforms, I don't use Twitter my post wasn't about that I just have been on the receiving end of hate and personal attacks a few too many times.

>>9621
Yeah people who do that shit are awful. If you wanna be a hater you can be a hater privately or where the OP can't see it but commenting directly on a fic about that sucks.