No.367
Not sure how far we can take this but it would be nice to have voice calls and practice that way too. Conversation is always important with any language you'd learn but not sure how comfortable anyone here would be with that
No.372
I hope this thread will help me get a routine. I used to study Japanese in uni but it was a total mess with teachers being on sick leave for entire semesters or retiring, being replaced by idiots who'd never teach us the language like planned, and I couldn't afford going on an exchange program either. Since then I forgot a lot of words and kanji but I want to learn again and maybe pass the JLPT N3 this december. I will try the N2 after that.
>>367Isn't it better to practice with Japanese people directly? Your idea seems good but not everyone has the same level of fluency.
No.373
>>367that's really a question of if we have enough people at the right level to make it a good learning experience. i know i'm personally nowhere near a level where i can hold a conversation, and honestly i'm more interested in doing pure input and not worrying so much about learning to write or speak japanese.
No.375
Does anyone have any idea where japanese fujos post their fanfics (besides twitter and pixiv)?
No.376
>>375I've seen some on poipiku. Can't read them so I don't know much about posting them there but I've seen a couple fujos post a handful of pages there for short fics.
No.382
>>376Thanks anon. I never really got the hang of poipiku but I guess I better start now lol. I wonder if there's like a Japanese equivalent to ao3 or something like that…
No.386
>>375asked a friend who said there doesn't seem to be any kind of aggregated site like ao3. disappointing.
No.391
>>386Damn, that
is disappointing… thanks for asking them though
No.394
>>391I've seen a few fanfics for some ships here and there on pixiv, or rather novels with one or two images to them. Maybe look there?
No.395
tae kim's grammar guide is just not clicking with me at all. i'm not really sure why; i think the way he explains it in english just doesn't make any sense to me.
any other guides you guys recommend for grammar for an absolute beginner? i might do better looking for chinese -> japanese learning resources, honestly.
No.396
>>395I would recommend trying out Cure Dolly's grammar series on YouTube. Someone linked to it at the top of the thread. Her explanations are great and help you to parse Japanese sentences much more naturally.
No.397
Feels like I'm being called out here. There was a period of time where I'd do daily duolingo practice in the morning and I'd reached the point where I was using textractor with google translate off to try and play JP only BL games with a jisho dot org tab open in my browser, but at some point I just stopped doing my duolingos and eventually quit practicing cause it was more fun to spend my practice time playing stuff from my gaming backlog. I've been thinking of picking it up again, though. Maybe with Renshuu instead of duolingo and that pirated Genki textbook.
No.398
>>366>>397that reminds me that i saw this guide for learning japanese with otome games. it's basically a list of games with an estimation of approximate difficulty and level needed to read them while still being challenged.
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1frGAK7JBEb6YwHKQK-u7HHFjGXPV-aABsFDN0luiHpM/editthere's also a resource for visual novels in general by difficulty.
>https://jpdb.io/visual-novel-difficulty-listnot sure how accurate these are, but might be useful resources for people looking to learn japanese through exposure!
No.399
How do I motivate myself to pass the JLPT N3 in December? I'm not gonna get a teacher for that so I'll try to study alone at home with my old textbook from uni and my electronic dictionary. But I keep forgetting basic grammar rules from lack of exposure to the language, which makes me give up quickly. I'm gonna force myself to get these very small notebooks to write vocabulary I find while browsing twitter at the very least.
No.401
>>366for people interested in practicing their listening skills, i'd recommend checking out this guy's channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8dWfySP_cKDMFj6aFfQbFAhe makes short (15-20 min) podcasts about a variety of topics in japanese and speaks in a steady, natural japanese that's not too fast. on youtube he includes the transcription (jp only) of what he's saying so you can read along. he also does radio-like livestreams if you're into that.
he has a spotify where he does the same thing, minus the transcription, if you prefer listening that way.
No.409
I'll be back on the grind tomorrow hopefully, the anki flashcards should help me memorize the hiragana hopefully. I still don't know more than 3 letters so I'll be doing my very best to get them down this month
No.414
>>409i used this simple hiragana/katakana recognition game to learn.
>https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.htmli also like this memory game where you match kana with their romanji counterparts, except i'm actually shit at concentration.
>https://en.japanophone.com/main/games/kanamemory No.415
>>414Thank you so much! These are always fun to mess around with.
I'm going to the local bookstore and see if they have a Japanese dictionary or phrase book, that's how I learnt my English.
No.688
>>395I'm surprised I never see Maggie-sensei mentioned for people looking to learn Japanese. That blog was the number 1 ressource for me when I was younger, and it's *still* getting new posts even after more than a decade later.
No.1029
I'm trying to learn as much hiragana as I can today and next week too, my goal is to be able to read full sentences in hiragana before I advance to katakana. How is everyone else's progress going?
No.1277
Does anyone know where to find raw BL?
No.1278
>>1277depends on what you're looking for? the easiest way is of course to buy them legally from sites like bookwalker or ebookjapan. if you want free raws, you'll have to dig around on the internet and hope someone uploaded them.
No.1290
>>1277https://www.mangaz.com/bl/ Is one site after a quick search.
There's also Ehentai/Exhentai, and MRM might have some stuff as well.
No.1309
>>1290>>1278Thanks for the websites! The mangaz and mrm sites were helpful and yeah I was looking for free raws. Will probably have to start paying one of these days though. Also after I made that post I remembered that nyaa.si existed lol.
No.3693
>>365Itaazuraneko is dead so here's an alternative
https://djtguide.neocities.org/ No.3696
>>375Check pixiv too. There will be fanfics posted there quite a bit. It's in the "小説" novel section.
No.3717
>>375https://pictbland.net/ has some but they've been down for maintenance for a couple weeks. Could be a while. Other than that, I used to find a lot of fic on personal sites when I'd go looking for fanart. Just follow a trail of links on the sites you find. If you're lucky there might be a webring or something. That was like 10 years ago so I'm not sure how helpful it is now. I wish I saved more.
A big part of why I'm studying Japanese is for fandom/fanfics. I was going to complain on here about how bored I've been of all the beginner crap I've tried to immerse in but I really got into it today. I'm actually looking forward to more.
How are everyone's studies going?
No.3731
>>3717>How are everyone's studies going?I'm very very slowly making my way through Tae Kim's grammar guide. It's so hard to wrap my head around certain concepts; like how the particle「と」can mean 70 different things depending on how and where it's used. I keep forgetting stuff and have to go back and reread the guide. It's such a drag.
I have a lot more fun learning vocab than grammar tbh.
On the bright side, I've gotten to the point where I can read simple fanfic/doujin without having to check the dictionary every 5 seconds. It's such a satisfying feeling when you read a sentence and realize you understood the whole thing without assistance!
No.3732
>>3731>>Making my way through Tae KimHow are you studying this? Please teach me your techniques, sempai.
No.3735
>>3732Kek nona you couldn't have asked a worse person. But basically what I do is after I read each chapter I make a summary of the grammatical points in that chapter. Sometimes this is a bit tough to do because the chapters themselves are pretty concise, so a lot of the times I end up just rewriting the entire lesson in my own words. Then I go back and review my notes every few days to really cement the lesson in my brain
this is supposed to work in theory, but I'm an idiot and I forget to do it regularly.My final advice is immerse yourself in the language. Watch YouTube videos in Japanese, listen to Japanese songs, read Japanese text, etc. It helps a lot more to actually see the grammar in action than to just memorize the rules with no context.
I hope that was helpful nona
No.3741
>>3735Nona.
I come from a school system so fucked that I was more or less denied to learn how to study basic stuff and since I just got passing grades without doing a thing, didn't ever actually learn how to learn.
To you, this might be basic shit that 'everyone knows', to me it is stuff that does not come naturally to me and I am very, very happy whenever someone spells it out. Thank you so much, I will be sitting the F down with Tae Kim next week, this time I might actually be able to really learn something from it, unlike the other 2,500 times I sat down and tried to just read it and then got sad and ashamed for not internalising it after one read-through.
You have done me a favour, thank you so much. I hope your JP studies work out, and that you stumble upon a lot of nice doujin of your OTP.
No.3745
>>3741>unlike the other 2,500 times I sat down and tried to just read it and then got sad and ashamed for not internalising it after one read-through.Don't worry I did this too. I'd just read through the guide without taking notes and wonder why I didn't learn anything. I find that when it comes to learning (pretty much anything), input is useless without some form of output. So doing stuff like writing, speaking, etc. Basically, putting the things you learned to actual use helps a lot with committing them to your long-term memory.
Best of luck to you on your language learning journey nona! Here's to becoming fluent enough to read doujin without a translator!
No.3760
Just hit over 200 days straight of studying. 5500 vocab and 1500 kanji known. Anime cards really help, I started using them around day 170 and my retention has improved dramatically.
No.3765
>>3760Hey that's fucking awesome and a great achievement!! Keep it up Nonnie!
No.3766
>>3760What anime cards are you using? I'm struggling with kanji so ridiculously hard that it's sabotaging my studying completely, I just can't seem to memorize them.
No.3767
>>3766I'm using jpdb with its mpv mining plug in instead of anki out of convenience. Have you learnt radicals yet? Making a mnemonic out of a kanjis radicals + immediately learning a word that uses a kanji is typically how I go about it.