No.430
i'll start :
>any angel ship in GBF ( Lucifaa, Belifaa, etc)
I hate them with passion bcus i FUCKING HATE angel story. not just theyre poorly written but the fanbase is fucking retarded. i just hate any angel related shit on gbf at this point
>FlamExeFlame (arknights)
i hate facecap and crackship thanks. literally only hot guys and get shipped, im fucking glad tho executor now have his now-homobait boyfriend (Enforcer).
>any seme flamebringer (arknights)
because i see him as bottom
>Maitake (tokyo revenger)
I ship Takemikey and i dont like seeing mikey being top.
>UenoyaMafuyu (Given)
i fucking hate mafuyu so much. uenoyama is too good for him
>Victuuri (Yuri On Ice)
their fans is so annoying & obnoxious as fuck.
No.434
>Kaeluc
it's shame they aren't actual sibling & also their dynamic is so boring.
>AkiAngel
i honestly like Aki character as how it is & can't see him being shipped with anyone else , most of the time akiangel shipper like to uwufied his character, or it becomes OOC, as akifag i'm annoyed. Seems like its forced too.
>any zhongli x childe ship
i hate how most of the shipper make the character as fucking OOC to the point the character become unrecognized. i block any artist who draw zhongli & childe. their shipper is also annoying too.
>foxakuma / kuzuhakanae / any nijiboys ship
man, i like this vtuber as normal streamer & i just hate to see any ship art of them.
No.445
I don't like Edgeworth/Gumshoe at all, not even just because I like Edgeworth/Phoenix more but because Gumshoe deserves better than dating his boss who won't stop shit talking him. I played AAI recently and gave up at the beginning of the last case because it's a boring game, I hated how Edgeworth wouldn't stop shit talking Gumshoe even more than in the main games, it was annoying instead of funny.
In Persona 4, I dislike Yu/Adachi and Yu/Kanji a lot. Yu/Yosuke and Dojima/Adachi are so much better.
I hate all OT3 in general. I won't elaborate.
No.529
klance.
No.552
>>520I hate m!Byleth/any character at all in FE3H. I hate people saying he's more canon than f!Byleth when they're both just mindless self-inserts so you can just pick and choose the one you prefer. It's annoying when people say Dimitri and m!Byleth are def gay for each other "in canon" when Dimitri can marry f!Byleth only, and there's Dedue RIGHT THERE. Dimitri/Dedue>>>>>>>>>>dogshit>>>>>>m!Byleth, there, I said it.
No.556
>>552Based.
byleth is garbage regardless of the gender.
Dimidue is patrician taste.
any Dimitri ship is honestly better as long its not with byl*th.
as much i like dimitri as next guy, i cant deny he's tailored for yumebait shit. People who think dimitri & maleth is canon are delusional as fuck lmao.
No.558
>>540I feel the same but also that's the reason why I almost never share my OTP. Each character has other, more popular ships so it makes me feel awful when I see their fanart and lewds. But it's worse when I try to talk about it and everyone else jumps and comments how the other, more mainstream ships are so much better and hot than my OTP. I hate having a relatively niche ship but I love it so much and it makes me feel so lonely.
No.562
>>556At least with f!Byleth I can understand why people would be into f!Byleth/Dimitri since you can romance him that way. So the average non-mentally ill girl who like Dimitri can project into f!Byleth while playing, marry Dimitri in-game and may think it's cute. Most m!Byleth/any male character shippers are mentally ill fakebois on the other hand.
No.563
>>562holy shit this is why yumeshitters shouldn't be allowed here. not everyone is gonna project on that hentai chick
you all sound like f!byleth fans mad because m!byleth exists kek
No.569
>>563I'm not a yume and I'm not into that pairing, I just dislike m!Byleth/Dimitri more than f!Byleth/Dimitri because the fans ruined it for me. f!Byleth/Dimitri is easier to ignore while I've seen too many fakebois sperging hard over m!Byleth in general.
No.571
>>565> Shouldn't you rather be glad he'd love your self-insert regardless of gender?Samefag but It's from Fire Emblem Three Houses and the point is that he doesn't. You can marry Dimitri as the female protag but not as the male protag. The protag isn't even a character at all to begin with.
No.573
>>571>The protag isn't even a character at all to begin with.That makes getting protective over it all the more pathetic.
No.574
fe3h is a shit game anyway. read a book, ladies.
No.576
>>573Tell that to the fakebois and yumejoshi who sperg all the time, because while I seem angry in my posts I've managed to block any type of discourse from my sight long ago and I don't think about it that much.
>>574True. Anyone saying FE3H's story is good deserves jail. It's only a bad pretext to kill enemies in the game's maps.
No.577
I hate pretty much almost every Genshin ship to several degrees, but if there's one ship that is just pure fucking nonsense to me is fucking Kaebedo.
It only originated because Kaeya talks about Albedo in his lines, but other than that there's quite literally nothing else linking them. Literally nothing. They barely even talk to each other. And worst of it, it's like a "gotcha" sort of ship for some antis? Shipping Kaeya with ANYONE but Diluc is a "win" even if it makes no sense. And the funniest thing is, that they somehow don't even apply the "uhh albedo is minor-coded" logic into it or anything. I hate how it's Albedo's most popular ship in western spaces. Nips like Albedo/Aether a lot but I'm honestly tired of Aether ships too. Originally I didn't mind teyvat whore bicycle aether, but I've grown fucking sick of seeing the same kawaii uguu bottom aethers over and over. I can like some MC/Character ships but not in Genshin. Aether is way, waaaay too bland to work for shipping.
I can only get into shipping if I'm invested in the two characters involved equally, and it's hard to get invested into an MC that you're supposed to project on.
Albedocest is better anyway
On a different note, I fucking hate Tatsujun. But it's less about the ship itself and more so how it entirely changed the cognition of P2 for everyone into persona or not even into it. Years and years of misinfo and wishful thinking to completely twist the game as some sort of gay dating simulator when the "gay option" is just one throwaway line with no impact on the game whatsoever. The worst of it all is that people only see the two characters as orbiters of one another, unable to think of anything else but wanting to fuck eachother when that's not how it is at all. It's also responsible for bringing nothing but genderspecials who project onto the two characters and if you think outside their trans black headcanons you're a monster. And to me, the pair is just simply dreadfully boring. Just because a character is canon gay doesn't make it good. You're not obligated to like gay characters or "half-canon" pairs if they're fucking bland.
I would probably go on an specific speegout about it but I already wrote too much of a text wall.
No.578
reimu and Vox from Nijisanji. People only started shipping them ONLY to spite people who didn't like the ship. They don't make sense as a couple either, she's a retarded skinny ghost who's latching onto the most popular VTuber in the EN branch because she gets the lowest viewership. i hate r*imu so fucking much and her 3 fans who keep pushing the retarded ship just because they think they're making people angry. She's a loud obnoxious leech who can't get 1k viewers on ANY of her streams so she thinks trying to suck my husbando's dick is supposed to get her the same audience. It doesn't work like that, bitch. They look weird as a "couple" and don't actually have any chemistry so people drawing them together pisses me off because people only draw this hetfaggotry because they have no other personality and thinking that'll get her more views. Too bad, people don't actually like to watch you, they just want to cum on your back like the pointless whore you are.(a-logging)
No.583
When I hate a pairing it's usually because of its fanbase acting like cunts. I'll think a pairing is retarded or shit or whatever but it isn't enough for me to feel strongly about it if the fans are minding their own business and then I just end up forgetting it exists. Hating pairings also doesn't happen often to me these days because I avoid English social media unless I have a random masochistic urge.
The Yuri on Ice bullshit back when it aired ruined any chance of me liking the show let alone the main pairing. Shit leaked everywhere. Twitter shit even bled onto /a/ at the time. Got to the point where I'm suspicious of Westerners who like it.
Another one I remember involves Lamento when it got translated. I didn't have a problem with Asato or his route but his fans were very aggressive with the whole "uwu such a cute wholesome bean the other routes are abusive to Konoe how dare you ship him with anyone but Asato!1" which really soured him for me.
No.584
>>582>>583I love Victor/Yuuri but I avoided the fans everywhere except on /a/, and the /a/ threads were really fun most of the time. I just vented once on twitter by saying it was annoying when fakebois and western fans as a whole were spoiling new episodes for everyone just to prove or disprove that the series is "queerbait" and most of my mutuals unfollowed or blocked me, so that's also why I managed to avoid the annoying fans. I followed the series since the start with a real life friend which made it even better, but honestly I can get why vocal fans can ruin a character, a pairing or even an entire series, some series were ruined for me as well with that same attitude.
No.587
>>584>just to prove or disprove that the series is "queerbait"Holy fuck I hate when this happens every time a new show comes out where two characters of the same sex look at each other for more than 5 seconds. I immediately block people like that on my TL now it's such a huge headache. Not every anime has this deep ulterior motive some people just want to see different dynamics of characters!
No.593
>>587I know what you mean, just called it shipbait or even fujobait and call it a day.
No.596
>>593Fujobait and queerbait have slightly different meanings though. People legit thought Yuri on Ive was queerbaiting, as in, baiting American SJW queerios looking for gay representation and were mad about it. But fujobait means a show or manga is trying to bait fujoshi (who are an actual reliable market this time) just looking for gay fanservice or a canon romantic relationship between two male characters so it's not the same targets and the same approach. Both concepts are dumb at the end of the day.
No.678
>>582>>Madeleine cookie/Espresso cookie>no chemistry at all, it's kinda canon and it's boring as fuckAbsolutely agree, it's just generic yaoi bait pairing. Madeleine doesn't care for Espresso and Espresso just hates them, they're interactions always feel very dry.
Also reminds me that perhaps we could make a Cookie Run thread at some point, it's full of cute boys.
No.679
>>678I thought I was going insane reading this until I realized you're talking about Cookie Run.
No.795
>>793I love ProPesci but I understand why people don't ship them because Pesci is fugly. He deserves Prosciutto though. They are frequently interpreted as brothers and that is part of it. Even though "aniki" is a term associated with gangsters addressing their respected superior, and they look nothing alike. I also find RisoPro annoying, once again I understand since they're both attractive but it got way more popularity than it deserves.
No.797
>>795Sis…thank you <3
I'm so glad someone else understands me
No.798
>>577I don't like any GI gay shit except Zhongli/Childe but mostly art wise. Other than that, there aren't enough interactions for me to ship anyone. Also Kaeya seems to be a tumblr bait and they drawn him looking like shit
No.1251
>>552>Dimitri/DedueFinally, someone with taste
No.1325
Keisou is such a fucking aiden cope ship, literally has the same energy as Klance
>Keiji constantly flirts with the protagonist Sara, calling her cute, protecting her, etc
>Midori stalks Sou, keeps pictures of him, has an AI of the cute past version of him, Sou keeps his scarf and still misses Midori even though he scared him
>Sou hates Keiji because Sou hates everyone who isn’t his little sister
It’s not even an interesting hatesex dynamic like Sou has with Sara, it’s jus boring and they rarely interact and when they do it’s just Sou asking if he and Sara are on a date or ‘fuck you Keiji stop defending Sara’ or ‘fuck you Sou stop lying’
No.1402
>>1325>>529>KlanceI never had a horse in that race but I hate Klance for the nuclear fallout of antis that have poisoned every fandom since ~2016. It simply did NOT used to be this bad before then.
No.1426
>>529I legitimately hate the fans and their effect more than the ship itself. The ship by itself is neither here nor there for me. But the fans of it are some of the worst idiots to ever crawl the internet. I hate that I actually, for the most part liked that show, but any association is forever tainted due to those idiots.
No.1430
Getting back into One Piece after abandoning itaround the timeskip and I still don't understand the appeal of Sanji/Zoro. I have yet to see a fanfic of them that feels in-character. I get rival ships, but I haven't seen anyone realistically reconcile that rivalry into a relationship.
SanUso and Zoro/Luffy have better dynamics overall imo.
No.1431
>>1430I never understood ZoroSanji either, completely agree that Zoro and Luffy had much more interesting chemistry. Zoro and Sanji are rivals yeah but it just never goes beyond that.
No.1432
>>1430I take to rivalships like a fish to water but Sanji/Zoro never clicked (similar story with Klance). There is no zest, just two main guys smashed together like 2000s-era dudebros claimed all yaoi was.
No.1436
>>1430>>1431>>1432It's not that complicated, just a result of majority of the male cast being so buttugly that you have no choice but to ship the only decent looking male characters
SanUso and Zoro/Luffy might make more sense in terms of chemistry and relationship dynamics, but Usopp is ugly amd Luffy is basically a large mentally retarded child
No.1437
>>1436I think this was one of the reasons I didn't get into shipping at first, people just seemed to put together two arbitrary male characters that looked good with no consideration for dynamics. Just as
>>1432 said, like 00's dudebros thought all yaoi was. I find it so hard to be invested in a ship that has nothing else running for them than "they look good as individual characters" except for PWP purposes, I'm much more attracted to how the characters' personalities work together and how they interact. Most of my NOTPs are like that, just boring ass ship with two attractive guys and nothing tying them together. It's some "I just want to look at sexy guys making out for me" coomershit. And don't get me wrong, I want my male characters to be good looking but it's definitely not enough to catch my interest alone.
No.1439
>>1438Not the person you're replying to but honestly when I was younger I was the kind of fujo to just pick the two hottest characters in any show and ship them. Now you could make one of the guys in a pairing a literal pile of slime and assuming he had a good personality and chemistry with the other guy I'd ship it.
Probably just a me thing though, used to be into bishies now I actively perfer characters with unusual visual quirks so my tolerance for weird and ugly is high.
No.1440
>>1439nta but I just don't see the appeal of that, none of this is canon in the first palce, so why not just pair up the guys who most aesthetically work together
No.1441
>>1440For me I want stuff as close to canon as possible so I want the characters to feel in-character. I find exploring relationships and character interactions way more interesting than just PWP. Often times on sites like AO3 block that tag since it doesn't lead to the character-focus I enjoy in fanworks.
I don't see the point in reading a doujin or fanfic if Sanji and Zoro are way out of character to facilitate hot yaoi action, at that point I might as well just be reading an original work.
No.1442
>>1438>Beyblade Kai/Rei was the most popular shipMan you unlocked some memories for me, I remember being so assblasted Kai/Tyson wasn't the dominant ship.
No.1443
>>1440The ships themselves are not canon, but the character interaction/dynamics we see prop up a ship are. I guess it just depends on whether or not you prefer aesthetics or narratives when you go looking for fan stuff.
>>1441Seconding this. Nothing better than having a ship you like get a solid work that feels like canon.
No.1478
>>1437I agree a ship is better when it's based on interactions or personalities rather than looks. I usually end up disliking ships that is just two hot guys put together simply because they are hot. [spoiler] Though I have to admit I have ended up shipping crackparings with characters who has barely interacted in canon I just think their personalities would fit [/spoiler]
However I'm semi vain when it comes to my fictional characters so I want a ship to be actually interesting and in character while also being hot lol.
No.2166
>>2164Honestly love stories like this where one thing or person can change your outlook on a pair. Know nothing about D.Gray Man can't comment on the ship, but I think it's pretty cool that a well-done doujinshi can make the pairing not unbearable for you.
No.2180
Childe/Zhongli
I admit this is mostly because I set my expectations too high. before getting into genshin, I was really into fe3h and one of my favorite pairings was Sylvix. those two had a lot of dialogue that was pretty romantically implied, like promising to die together on the battlefield. I was starting to ride off my fixation for fe3h by the time genshin dropped, and I saw a lot of really good Tartali fanart. I guess I was expecting it to be like genshin sylvix,so I played the game kinda excited to witness their canon interactions, only to be disappointed that their canon relationship is business/political at best. their dialogue together was boring as hell to me. obviously I wasnnt expecting to see them drill each other's asshole in game, but I really wanted to see why these two were such a popular pairing. In the end its just two grown men kissing. no hate to anyone who is into that, but I prefer some type of interactions with my ships.
No.2186
>>2180I still can't quite understand why Childe/Zhongli is so popular because that aspect of Liyue felt like an otome game to me (despite my male MC, lol). It even had that web event where you were locked-in as Lumine doing stuff around the city with them! I can't speak for the eastern part of the fandom, but on the western side it seemed like it got so popular because our too-large population of self-loathing pickme """fujos""" were dying for something to ship that wasn't Kaeya/Diluc (PROBLEMATIC!!!) and the other boys had yet to develop stronger on-screen bonds (which seem to be extremely important for launching a ship).
It's funny to look at the canon interactions of all characters in Genshin up until now (both on-screen and through voice over unlocks) versus what creators had to work with when the game launched. Childe/Zhongli has about as much content now as they did when the Liyue arc ended. I definitely think Miyoho isn't going to deviate from whatever story plans they had for Childe and Zhongli to tease them. They are both looking to be important long-term.
No.2203
>>2180>>2186I wish I liked this pair since there's so much fancontent and I like both of the characters separately. But just couldn't get into it either.
tbh I'm not sure why but I'm very meh about all Zhongli pairings.
No.2268
>>2186Diluc and Kaeya is such godtier taste though, the angst, who tops? who bottoms? It could go both ways. With Childelee or whatever the ship name is it's what- old business man x young russian sadist? And he doesn't even whip the old man? What the fuck
No.2269
>>2180I think it's just normie fujo. Genshin is massive and all some people play do they seek stuff it isn't there and change it
Kinda like those people who only consumin shounen stuff a d ship Baku deku
No.3492
>>3490I've been a Kurotsukki hater since 2016 because it gets in the way of my beloved childhood friends ships (Tsukkiyama and Kuroken) kek.
No.3493
Alhaitham and Kaveh, because I don’t like Alhaitham
Zhongli and Tartagaglia, because they haven’t interacted in 3+ years and I think Tarta is the punchline to a Cyno-tier joke (in a fun way. Loved seeing him get yeeted by Skirrk)
Zhongli and Xiao, simply because I prefer XiaoVen
Wriothesley and Neuvilette. Just meh.
No.3494
>>3492Wow, that brings me back. Same though. Especially now that my feelings of nostalgia have reignited my Kuroken feelings.
No.3496
>>3493every ship in genshin is a notp for me, they're all so shitty. they only exist because 1. the game is popular and 2. they're borderline blank slate anime characters with so little going on they allow people to project whatever personalities onto them that they want; it's a free for all
No.3498
>>3496NTA but what the hell is up with someone just popping up every single time Genshin in mentioned in any possible context to just bitch about how much you hate every ship in it? It's really obnoxious and always the same "they literally have no personality!!!!" thing making it obvious there's no personal experience besides annoyance of seeing it everywhere.
No.3499
>>3498Could just be bait. They're right about Childe/Zhongli though. I've said this before in other threads, but it is grating to see objectively talented artists/writers into stuff you don't like and maybe her grace has been eroded enough she needs the outlet here.
No.3501
>>3498>complains about seeing posts that say the same things about why they don't care for genshin ships everytime they're brought up outside genshin fandom spaces>concludes that it's an antigenshin psyop and definitely not a widely held opinion that does come from personal experiencekek I know you're sensitive about something you're obsessed with recieving criticism but get over it. do you feel the same way when people say the same things about genshin hetships like neuvifuri? they're not any worse.
No.3503
>>3501It happens in literally every fandom-related thread that's discussing topics outside of a strict fandom context, no matter how Genshin is mentioned someone starts trauma dumping about how much they hate the game and ships. Even when someone tried to talk about it anonymously without mentioning the series it devolved into someone in the replies sperging about their autistic hatred for it having nothing to contribute but "they have no personality!!!!!". It's stupid and brings no value to any conversation. This reply
>>3496 here doesn't even mention NOTPs in the same fashion explaining why they hate certain ships like this post
>>3493 does, it's just weird venting about the Genshin shaped chip on their shoulder.
No.3505
>>3503too bad. if a lot of people feel that way, it's going to keep happening and it can't be helped. the post was relevant and saged, but it made you upset so you're making a big deal about what would've been a one off post. you're the only one guilty of weird autistic venting. let's drop it, yeah?
I take you ignoring the hetship question as a yes. how those look to you is a more intense view of how all the ships look to outsiders. hope this helps.
No.3508
>>3505Never played Genshin never will, but I am curious is that post actually relevant and talking about NOTPs? When I picture the phrase I think about a visceral reaction and disgust either due to the ship getting in the way of your OTP or because it's squick. Can you have NOTPs from series you don't like in the first place?
No.3512
>>3508I don't even hate the game, idk why that thought never occurred to that anon. the ships are based on such insignificant interactions most of them qualify as crackships but not the kind born out of potentially cool interactions because the characters are also one dimensional. there's nothing there. that's why they get shat on.
No.4859
No concrete NOTP but I hate every pairing that solely exists for a kink that isn't even relevant in the show. Like I have seen so many characters that barely talk with each other or have no chemistry getting shipped because of the size kink and the shippers don't even watch the series or don't care what happens. They just see "big" and "smol" and pair them up and fans are eating those crack ships up for the same reason.
No.4860
>>4859Do you hate it when it's just a physical quirk that causes them to get shipped, or does that extend to character types as well. For example bookworm x jock or bad boy x by-the-rules stickler?
I think its frustrating when a clearly superior ship exists and people gravitate to something I deem as "shallow" but I do think if a writer has enough patience and creativity they can realistically make any ship work and stay in character.
No.4861
>>4860Mainly physical since I see this more often. When it's based on personality traits it's usually at least somewhat based on canon. The danger here is to simplify the characters and reduce them to the trait. Personally I like the grumpy, old(er) dude/younger, funny, optimistic one for example. Thankfully that trope is very popular but lots of times I still catch myself not being able to enjoy fanfics since characters are solely defined by the main trait the fans like which is usually oddly exaggerated.
But I would say that this is a different kind of problem. It's just the typical OOC issue whereas the former thing I mentioned spreads like fire and involves fans that don't even deem it necessary to read or watch the series since all they care about are the sizes.
No.4862
>>4859I absolutely hate how tropeships ruined crackshipping. Like yeah by all means it classifies as one, but the enjoyment i get from crackships is seeing two seemingly unrelated characters interact in a scenario that couldve worked had the story given them the opportunity; it shows a "what if?" if two narratively similar characters met in the middle. I love the undistilled autism required to cobble up such concepts and tropeships that are just shipped just because the character "looks good" (this discussion probably also fits the shipping looks vs shipping personalities thread) almost always has no regard to a character's chemistry or lore. its just superficial enjoyment and not the way i like ships.
No.4863
fun to see this thread get bumped. i’ve actually got some bitchiness to get off my chest so here goes.
>soukoku (bsd)
never was able to get into this one while watching the show/reading the manga, for whatever reason, so the total ubiquity of it in art and fic was kind of a slap in the face. and i tried to get into it, really, but nearly every fucking fic flanderizes them so hard and makes them both so obnoxious and the plot follows the same. exact. beats. every single time. then over the years the “it’s basically canon!!1!1!!!” brigade kicked in and it’s firmly in genuine notp territory for me now.
>matt/mello (death note)
admittedly i got into dn super late and wasn’t around for any early fandom stuff, but i have no idea how this pairing even happened. matt is a non character. he has like, two scenes. literally a made up guy. and mello doesn’t provide much to go off of either since everything post ep-26ish is so rushed in the anime. i have no idea why i’m so particularly petty about this but i am.
No.4871
>>4862Not exactly a crack ship but the only hint a game related pairing I was heavily into ever got was a text file that said that guy 1 was the mentor of guy 2 and considered him talented. This text was optional and IIRC not even in the game itself, just some background info for those interested and all the characters did on screen was saying one line each till guy 1 killed guy 2 lol
And yet some friends and I have built a whole universe around them. All confined within canon, we also read a shitton of lore and memorized every damn bit of the game and universe to come up with realistic scenarios and a friend wrote like 50 fics about them that were all connected.
In the end she wrote some fucking 150 pages long novel about how they have met. It was fantastic.
What a fun time. I say this because I agree. Sometimes lacking on-screen info means just that you have so much more leeway to do whatever you want and develop the characters and pairings. I think that THIS is the reason for why I am always into side characters and never the mains.
Well side characters also tend to be crazier and more creatively written since they don't need to be moral or the audience's surrogate like the MCs. But this is another reason. And yeah, trope shipping sucks ass.
No.4872
>>4863Matt/Mello came about before the manga ended, and people were kind of banking on Matt contributing more than he did. The design stood out, and people were really desperate for a new L since Near was offputting to most. In retrospect so much of Death Note's fandom activity was wishful bullshit and making far more than the series actually gave.
No.4875
>>4872genuinely thanks for the context. coming into it over a decade late, it was so fucking weird to watch the anime and then find so much fandom content dedicated to a guy who i didn’t think about for more than 0.3 seconds after his first appearance. but i can see how it could spring up the way you described (and i think that’s absolutely something that still happens with ongoing series today). a bit off-topic, but it was also weird to me that mello/near wasn’t a bigger deal. i’d initially assumed that the whole orphanage pseudobrothers thing had killed it, but i picked up on the distaste for near pretty quickly.
which is a shame because i actually kinda liked him more than mello for some reason, kek. No.4883
>>4863>mattThe answer is the design + first impression.
A lot of characters gain maaassive popularity uniquely for that, it doesn't even have to do with being "good" looking, it has to do with having some sort of iconic look or accessory that creates a brand.(think about the link green outfit, or the mikasa scarf)
Shanks for example, appeared VERY few times in one piece, yet he still ranks pretty high in popularity polls (even thou he is pretty important lore wise)
I can think of Bonney too, (before the current chapters obviously) who gained massive popularity despite only appearing few times and being mostly a comedic relief character.
No.4884
>>4863>but i have no idea how this pairing even happenedThey’re both hot and Mello seemed sad when he died.
With that being said I totally get why you’re petty about it (since I also am). I honestly don’t think DN isn’t that fujo in general and I think people exaggerate a lot with the ‘I CAN’T BELIEVE OHBA IS HOMOPHOBIC WHEN HE WROTE LIGHT AND L’ as if they aren’t just both written as typical male gaze ‘badass’ characters kek.
No.4887
>>4884>I think people exaggerate a lot with the ‘I CAN’T BELIEVE OHBA IS HOMOPHOBIC WHEN HE WROTE LIGHT AND L’ They really do. I was an insane teenage fujo omnivore for the entirety of Death Note's run and I just didn't get it.
No.4892
>>4891same. i feel insane because the yotsuba arc is genuinely one of my favorite parts the show, despite it being generally disliked (at least from what i’ve always seen). the handcuff premise alone always felt like straight up fanfic to me and amnesiac light has so much potential too. it’s also the very end of this arc which gives us the anime foot scene kek (and the rain scene as a whole). i went from like 10% fujo investment to 90% over the course of like, six episodes.
No.4953
>>3503It's a notp thread, do you expect people to only be allowed to hate certain ships? I hate the entire fandom because of how cocky the fujos get over that one "implied" roommate ships when they're all boring nothingburgers. The most "canon" yaoi with the most annoying fujos being something that boring is exactly why I hate the game, I think all the ships suck because they'll never write one relevant to the actual plot that moves like fucking molasses.
No.4954
>>4953Why are you replying to a seven month old post? You're just proving their point.
Still stand by the post I made back then I don't think it's really a NOTP if you don't actually ship any of the guys in the first place.
>>3508I was going to post a NOTP of my own but I don't think I have any that actively fill me with disgust or hatred, usually more in the "disinterest" or "doesn't" click category of not shipping.
No.4965
My mindset was like
>>4954 at first but after sharing some thoughts in another thread I realised that Mob x Reigen counts as a NOTP for me. It just feels wildly out of character no matter which of the two would initiate the relationship and characterisation is extremely important for me in a ship.
No.5010
I don't really have NOTPs just many pairings I don't give a shit about or fail to see the chemistry of. Usually, that's the most popular pairing.
Tbh I cannot remember more than five series at best since the year 2000 or so where the main ship was ever interesting or hot, regardless of whether I was into the series or not (that rhymes!). I feel like the mass tends to ship the childish and/or dumber characters IMO or the fragile uke and the evil seme, annoying hyperactive characters or brats.
It's one of the main reasons for why I don't end up in fan communities for the series I love. Being the only one talking about the ship you are into while everybody screams and creams their pants over the two dudes you consider boring is worse than just drawing fanart and staying in your own lane with the 3-10 others that like the same shit as you.
No.5011
>>4965Agreed, most of the people Ive seen ship it only ship it because its "problematic!" and "taboo" with no consideration to the character's personalities or dynamic at all. Regardless of positions, I hate the perverted characterizations I see from both of them, from obsessed stalker Mob to sleazy sexpest Reigen… so ooc and unnerving, they may as well be ocs.
No.5013
Does anyone have a ship that everyone thinks is your NOTP, but you don't actually feel that strongly? I mean like a ship where you're very vocal that the popular versions aren't right and you're sick of seeing it all the time, and that the characters are more like this and this in canon. At this point, because it's also a problematic ship and people would question my interests (which is stupid 'cuz the series already has rape and dismemberment), I just let acquaintances assume I hate all instances of it. The truth is I think the way people ship it at the moment is full of flanderizing and ignoring key character traits to make an OC out of one guy and preserve their favorite as he is. I've read fics from the 00s where the authors remembered to keep both of them in-character and the slow build up is way better, the way the more innocent one struggles and resists is taken seriously instead of a joke and that leads to really sexy descriptions. The current fanart and comics and stuff are always just making him tsundere and helpless instead of repulsed by murder and mutilation, and then when they skip that stage they just make him hollow and compliant so he no longer has his personality. It's frustrating because I'm more into him than the seme and the fact he fights back in canon and gets all pissy and growly is one of his best features, as well as drowning in despair and self hate when he thinks he's committed evils. It's frustrating to find every new fanart is some OOC rewrite who is OK with everything he stands against. I've definitely posted about this ship before but it's particularly awkward that I don't feel like I can say "no actually I think it's fine I just think they're fucking it up ALL the time." I'm not shipping it myself but I think there's more than enough in canon that plays around with it and I'm disappointed everyone's taking the easy option to make it work. I want to walk into their workspace and show them how to do their job and leave, lol.
No.5017
>>5013It sounds like you're talking about Optimus and Megatron including the dismembering part LMAO because that's also exactly what newer fans are doing and fics from the 00s were so much better. Like there are still good ones, but yeah I feel the same about such issues and transformers respectively the way fans often handle Optimus is a good example. People woobify one of them too much in modern times and it got so annoying that I ignored the shipping for years despite that they were ships I also casually enjoyed.
Anyway I agree I know that feeling. If something is popular enough fans will assume that you NOTP it if you argue against it even if it's just the way they are doing it that annoys you. I don't like OOC, woobifying and selfinserting and I see a lot of this happening, especially for older fandoms. Maybe fans lack new material so they start basing their stories off on other fanon that is based on earlier fanon and so on until the guys they ship have nothing in common with the originals anymore.
I always feel like I am party pooper, regardless of the fandom I am in. It's always me who dislikes ooc and the majority seems to be in love with it. I hate it since it would make me enjoy so much art and writing more if I could, but I can't. No matter how much I love a character (or especially because of that) I always dislike mischaracterizations of them.
No.5159
>>4965The fans of that only talk about how its antis who hate it. No, I don't believe you're a pedophile in real life for shipping. I just don't like it because I see it was ooc for Reigen. Him being that type of guy would make him a completely different character.