/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>6639
>Wrio/Lyney
It had no business to be so intense I almost hated Wrio until reveal, damn that thug enjoyed mind torturing Lyney
Fontaine story loves punching three legged pups like Furina and him, there’s Navia suffering too but idc

>>577 boy am I glad to see another tatsujun hater LMFAO

I have sort of an issue with tatsujun, though it's mostly with the fans. One of my problems is when they INSIST that Jun's the canon love interest for him and they attack anyone who ships Tatsuya with anyone that isn't Jun. Apparently Eternal Punishment doesn't exist. I feel like they don't take the fact that Tatsuya gets four options to choose who he likes in a certain dungeon into account or they ignore it solely based on the fact Jun's on it. If the player chooses Jun, the relationship bar changes and he can get the contact option to flirt with Jun, that's literally it. It doesn't change the plot whatsoever and is never mentioned again in Eternal Punishment.

Maybe it's just me, but I think a fair amount of tatsujun fans either watched bits and pieces of the game when Jun was on-screen and called it a day or they just ran with the fact Jun likes Tatsuya and is immediately like "THEY ARE CANON!" but fail to realize that there is no canon romance in Innocent Sin, if there was, I don't think Tatsuya would have the ability to choose who he likes and only one person would be chosen or it'd be clear on who it was. People are still free to ship whoever they want of course, but at the end of the day no one's canon in Innocent Sin. Eternal Punishment is a different story though, ahem… I think it's fucking dumb when people insist on something being canon when it isn't.

Again Jun does like Tatsuya, but so does Lisa, so it's kind of silly to act like Jun's the only one with canonical feelings and to run with it. Besides, the whole romance thing or how people think it is with Jun was literally confirmed by Atlus it was only to satisfy the female fans who were into the BL subculture. I don't think they can fathom the fact that two guys can have a platonic relationship because that's the vibe I got anytime Tatsuya and Jun were together, even in their childhood days.

>>577
>when the "gay option" is just one throwaway line with no impact on the game whatsoever.
Excuse me, did you forget when picking Jun gives you one (1) new negotiation option where Tatsuya and Jun flirts in front of a demon and the demon either ships them or says homophobic insults?! But seriously, I like tatsujun but I've stopped interacting with the fandom a very long time ago so I've avoided shippers saying stupid things about P2 for a very long time as well. Thank god for that, it seems like it's still as unbearable as when I was still on tumblr in 2015.

I fucking despise Chrollo x Kurapika, I cant even google an image to paste for an example because I hate looking at that ship. Its everywhere and everyone and their mother ships it and I get it, I know why people like it, the source material is there, theres a compelling dynamic with tension or whatever, but I absolutely despise it regardless. I also dislike Leorio x Kurapika but not as much as Chrollo x Kurapika; I guess my hatred comes from the fact I'm one of the few people who prefer seme Kurapika and Kurapika is primarily a uke in both ships.
I have a huge vendetta against this account on twitter that commissions a ridiculous amount of Chrollo x Kurapika art, I have her blocked for ages but her stupid OOC commissions of daddy dom buff Chrollo and uwu twink Kurapika jumpscare my timeline when an innocuous artist happens to accept her commission
>picrel unrelated, a superior crackship imo

>>9902
I don't necessarily hate or like tatsujun, tbh, I think i'm more neutral on it, I just hate how the fandom acts about it and shit, it's still mostly worse on twt, but I do not blame you for avoiding shippers!

>>9903
Aw I mildly ship it and I know who you're talking about, I think she's a queen but I understand how if it's someone's NOTP then that'd be their worst nightmare. If only all our OTPs had someone who commissioned like crazy like that and it was all tagged correctly for those who don't want to see it

>>9905
All power to rich fujos who spend their fortune procuring the arts towards their OTP, I respect it, I think they're stacies, however I wish her art wasn't blatantly OOC (my NOTP bias aside) it's honestly humorous how she sees Chrollo as this shredded mafioso dom daddy when he's thin and mildly androgynous in canon. I guess when comparison to Kurapika anyone can look turbo masculine but still.

>>9903
I gladly have no clue who you are referring to, but I could never get into this ship simply because the majority is seme Chrollo and I firmly believe he should be getting ass railed. No one can convince me otherwise.

>>9906
the anime probably contributes the most to that, and his earlier appearance

>>9908
if 2011 anime has a million haters, then i am one of them. if it has ten haters, then i am one of them. if it has only one hater then that is me. if 2011 anime has no haters, then that means i am no longer on earth. if the world loves 2011 anime, then i am against the world.

>>9905
I can't fault her either. Much props to those who can put money towards their fujo fantasies, I try as much as I can too, but when you've completed molded the characters to the point where they are unrecognizable to other fans are you a true fan or are you a fan of what you have molded? Are they just your OCs at this point? Maybe I'm reading too into it.

>>9906
It's weird, because Chrollo with his hair slicked back has a completely different aura from hair down Chrollo. I'm glad Togashi draws him more like this in "recent" chapters.

>>9911
Absolutely based.

>>9903
I didn't care of any of Kurapika ships until I saw Chrollo x Kurapika fanart. It's one of ships I want one to destroy another in spite of feelings either Kurapika succeeds in PT's demise or Chrollo removes Kurapika's eyes.

>>9922
On the plus side the fanarts you listed actually make chrollo look equally as ikemen. In my humble and delusional opinion though, kurapika is the one sticking his dick in the ass thank you.

After replaying Kirby entirely I realized that I hate MetaDedede for spreading mischaracterization, and not because I'm a contrarian. Upon shipping them, a fangirl is unable to look at what they were like individually before KRtDL. She can never believe that Dedede used to be Dreamland's strongest, or that Meta Knight didn't work under him.

Couldn't fucking stand papyton back in 2015, still can't stand it now. It would be one thing if the fans accepted it as the crackship that it is but they're so obnoxious and adamant that it is/will be canon. I've yet to see any real "proof" for it beyond "papyrus called mettaton sexy and he's such a Nice Guy so obviously he deserves robobussy, if you disagree you're ableist and don't think childish autistic adults are worthy of love". It's unbearingly onesided and reduces mtt to being some manchild's trophy mommy figure.

>>11604
At first I thought you were talking about Pariston x Ging

Ike/Soren autistic spergout incoming
(I'm gonna have to split this because it's too long lol)
I remembered this because of the recent gamecube releases on the switch 2. Anyway I'm not a fan this one for several reasons, the most prominent being that the fans of this ship glorify it so much and call it wholesome when it really just isn't. Mind you, I could care less about 'proshipping' and I am not a moralfag when it comes to toxic ships. However, this ship right here is not wholesome at all, and is one of the biggest examples of a relationship, platonic or romantic, that has a whole lot of toxic dependency (not completely but close). I also found Soren's devotion to Ike to be somewhat retarded since it was shown that there were other people who were willing to be kind to him, but he acted as if Ike was the only one who had that propensity for kindness just because the nigga threw a sandwich at him one day ten years ago (I guess this is a problem with the games glazing Ike so much in general but I digress).

Anyway, another reason why I dislike this ship so much is because people pretend there is 'canoncity' to it when there really is not. All the interactions between these two in both games are stale with no romantic subtext at all (You can maybe argue that it may come from Soren a little since he's obsessed with Ike, but none at all from Ike himself other than the scene I will soon talk about). Its fans say a hug at the end of Radiant Dawn (the second game in the series) as the biggest proof of such when really, it's just a scene about hugging someone who has finally truly opened up after years of holding in deep-seated traumas and horrible memories. Who wouldn't have hugged Soren in that moment? But canoncity and non-canoncity is besides the point (since Ike is already confirmed to have a descendant). Really, I'm just taking jabs at the fans at this point.

>>11795
The third reason is because the ship is just so boring. Here we have stoic mercenary whose in-game supports are all tailored around the other person he interacts with (meaning his personality, while there, is limited. He does grow as a person though, even if it is semi-rushed and not done very properly or interestingly…but I blame that on the games needing to be better paced more fleshed out) and brooding, anti-social, 'mean because of my dark past but I'm actually a softie on the inside guiz!!111' kuudere-borderline-tsun type. Two characters with very little emotional depth makes for a very bland ship. (Mind you, the english translation of Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn added a lot of 'spiciness' to the character's dialogue, so, in all actuality, they're both even more canonically boring than people perceived them as. A lot of the 'umph' and 'sass' came from localization changes) That's why all the fanart and fanfiction between these two is boring or outright OOC-like because it's just that lame. While I'm not much of a fan of Ike/Ranulf either, at least Ranulf's more laid-back, fun personality makes that ship more interesting. And you know what, I wouldn't even mind Ike/Soren being so boring if its fans didn't try to make everyone pretend that it's good and so heckin' wholesome. (A real one admits when their taste is bad but they like it anyway).

Everyone who glazes this ship just needs to admit that they like it solely because it has a sadboy twink uke with a sob-story past and a hot muscular cool and stoic guy from super smash brothers as the seme. P.S. MarthxIke was much more exciting, even if it was only because of the fans autism at the time.

Anyway, I'd write about more ships, but I think I've subjected you all to enough ranting. Glad I was able to get this out of my system.

>>11795
>>11796
As a Ike/Soren fan, I vehemently disagree, also Ranulf sucks and I'm tired of people shilling that ugly faggot. Not saying you are at all, but god Ike/Ranulf is terrible. And yes I am that person that discriminates every uggo character in FE games without impunity

But I will agree with you on the wholesomeness thing. It's not entirely so but a kid who was horrifically starved and abused by strangers all his life becoming codependent on the one person who was kind to him makes sense. I would have been more put off if Soren was a complete yandere about it, instead he's just a rude guy to others because they're unironically dumb.

As far as canonicity, I see it more about the endings Ike has rather than the childhood trauma scene. But that's me

>>11795
For whatever reason the Tellius games did not activate any shipping brainworms. I wish I could redirect all the energy Ike/Soren got into, like, Legault/Heath or something.

>>11797
>As a Ike/Soren fan, I vehemently disagree,
We agree to disagree Nonna. All is fair in love and war.
>also Ranulf sucks and I'm tired of people shilling that ugly faggot.
Kek LOL
>But I will agree with you on the wholesomeness thing. It's not entirely so but a kid who was horrifically starved and abused by strangers all his life becoming codependent on the one person who was kind to him makes sense.
See, I'm inclined to see where you are getting at though but the games don't handle it all that well. Soren doesn't accept other people's kindness, only Ike's, as if he were the only one able to show such a trait. Even when others try to warm up to him he acts like an ass. Again, to me this seems like a lackluster writing choice more than anything.
>I would have been more put off if Soren was a complete yandere about it, instead he's just a rude guy to others because they're unironically dumb.
I agree with you on that for sure.
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As far as canonicity, I see it more about the endings Ike has rather than the childhood trauma scene. But that's me
Understandable Nonna, I can see why someone would feel that way even if I don't exactly agree.
>>11798
For whatever reason the Tellius games did not activate any shipping brainworms.
Me neither, well there's one crackship that I'm fond of but it's only because of an artist who drew nice art of it. For some reason, I feel that the Tellius games put less emphasis on the characters (at least when really delving into their personality) and more on the story, which is probably why I personally feel that way.
>I wish I could redirect all the energy Ike/Soren got into, like, Legault/Heath or something.
I feel the same way (Especially since Legault/Heath is way more interesting to me). A lot of Ike/Soren popularity has to do with Ike being probably the most popular character in the franchise along with Heroes introducing a new wave of fans into the greater Fire Emblem series. Because before, at least in the western side of the fandom, you'd see more Elincia/Ike and Marth/Ike.

>>11798
>>11799
I was particularly drawn to Tibarn/Reyson. They had some very shippy moments

>>11799
>Because before, at least in the western side of the fandom, you'd see more Elincia/Ike and Marth/Ike.
I think this was because of ff.net's demographics at the time (mid/late 00s)–there were quite a lot of boys writing fanfics and ff.net got so many crossovers they eventually got their own section. Strange times looking back on it.

>>11800
Tibarn/Reyson is an adorable one with how much Reyson admires him.
>>11810
>Strange times looking back on it.
Good times in my opinion. The worst thing you had to deal with back then in fandoms was shippingwars and flamewars.

My NOTP is the most popular pairing on the western side and is basically considered canon (it's not) by it's annoying fans and other people who spend a lot of time in spaces with the annoying fans. My OTP doesn't exist on the western side.
I'm satisfied with all the amazing content Asian side of the fandom provides for my OTP but hate that no matter where and whenever I want to discuss the story, fans of the NOTP chime in and mention the NOTP even if it has nothing to do with the thing discussed, just to make it about the NOTP.
It drives me crazy and is probably the first time I encounter such a situation. Not going to mention the fandom for reasons, just needed to get it out of my system.
It's sad that I wouldn't hate the NOTP half as much if the fans just behaved like normal human beings.

>>11818
I feel you, nona. I have a very similar situation, although probably not as severe as yours. It's very frustrating at times because people will try to act like their ship is objectively correct, or in my ship's case, try to attach some moral quality to it to make it seem "better." I'm glad the Asian side of your fandom provides content for you.

I have noticed most fanart of every notp i have is eerily similiar.
They all have this yumecoded het fanart where the girl is drawn as cute and bubbly, while the guy just blushes at her like he’s overwhelmed by how adorable she is, or fanarts where he hugs her to show how possessive he is of her. It's literally the same fanarts types for all straight ships lol
There’s barely any creativity, and the characters’ real personalities get watered down for mass appeal.

I guess what frustrates me the most is knowing that a lot of people aren’t engaging with the characters for who they actually are, but instead using them as wish fulfillment stand ins.

>>11914
Like the girl just exists and the guy is obsessed with her existence as the girl? kek

>>11923
yup essentially

>>1252
4 years later and you're still right. The ship is lame and the shippers are insufferable. Personally I hate gerita and prumano, gerita is just forced slop and prumano is an abomination, it shouldn't exists. No one ship it except annoying Aidens with a personality disorder.

>>11931
That's why most het ships suck. Guy is a character, girl is the girl, and the guy likes her because she's the girl.

>>11934
disagree with gerita. they’re good actually (even your picrel is cute kek it doesn’t help your case) but prumano does suck so bad. it feels so forced and makes no sense. it always just felt like “leftovers” yknow? romano is better with spain and prussia is better with germany

>>11944
>>11934
Romano should be with Italy the way god intended!! Spamano is good too though

>>11944
I think Germany and Italy are cute together but only as friends. I can't see them being a couple. (Mostly because I ship Germany with Prussia kek). I totally get what you mean about prumano, I feel the same.
>>11946
So kawiwi! I love spamano but Romano is definitely weird about his brother.

Obi-Wan and Anakin. its incredibly oversaturated, seems to be mostly TCW-based and it seems to basically just exist as an avenue for people to lust over Obi-Wan Kenobi, whom I've never liked or particularly cared about.

I just genuinely do not understand how anybody could find it to be remotely canon. they dont even seem to really like each-other, at least not in the movies. (i am not going to watch a 166 episode CGI cartoon, are the rest of these people completley fucking insane.)

>>13106
I think it's a combo of the older fandom reading the novels, the newer fandom watching clone wars (which, imo, has more tension between Obi-wan and Maul than anything else), and Anakin and Obi-wan being the 'safest' option. They're both attractive human men, so no weirdness with aliens, and by the time of the Clone Wars, there's no issue with them being master-apprentice, so no fraternization issue like with the clones. Its an interesting case of 'pair the spares', except it's the main ship.

>>13106
>>13121
you just don't get it nonnies..
Had to catbox my collection of quotes from the novels because of file size but please trust it's a valid ship, you may not like it or see it in the films or want to read the extended content but these books are still very much canon and therefore is one of many reasons why people like this ship

https://files.catbox.moe/z9939r.png

>>13168
oh my god i need to read the novels

>>13168
Damn, I remember reading one of the novels and thinking it was surprisingly gay but what the hell is this lmao???
I really love these two, shipping or not.

>>13172
>>13181
yeah the books go hard for the ship, i have many more but its difficult to sift throughj

>>13313
LMAO that last one in particular one great.

I hate any JJK ship involving Getou, because I hate Getou. I don't understand how he is a popular character at all.

>>13622
I saw this pic on the homepage and thought "Eugh, I hate Geto. I wonder what theyre saying about him though…" now I'm laughing. I dont get the hype either. I think maybe hes just babies first angst because most JJK fans have never watched anime before, and therefore never had a Sasuke phase. Maybe that's too harsh, though.

>>13625
NTA but nah you're spot on, JJK is essentially zoomer/gen alpha Naruto. Everyone calling it "peak fiction" are teenagers who only watch shonen.

A bit contrary to the thread but I'm so desperate to see a character bottom I'm reading doujin of my NOTP for it. I'm basically 1 of the 10 fans in the entire world who likes the "reversed" position of my OTP whereas in my NOTP that character being the bottom is the majority preference. I'm enjoying <10% of the experience so I'm subjecting myself to this for no good reason. Don't think I can stomach fanfic for it and won't even bother. Life is suffering…

>>13634
>so desperate to see a character bottom I'm reading doujin of my NOTP for it.
gotta train your imagination so you won't need fic or doujin anymore, can't imagine subjecting myself to this…
Or even better, start writing/drawing but that takes way more effort

I'm gonna be honest here: I have a NOTP for most fandoms I enter because I get too annoyingly invested in shipping. I could probably sit here and list over 20+ ships that still make me seethe to this day, which is why it's a good thing I don't really post on social media. It sucks that many are popular ships so I just stop interacting with those fandoms because they are inescapable. If I were to analyze myself it would always be Character B getting shipped with others but idc about Character A's ships weirdly. It's weird because Character B tends to be the one I like least but I also get more annoyed at seeing people ship him with the "wrong" dude. Going even deeper, it may be that Character A is usually the less liked one in the fandom and his personality usually gets flattened into being a complete simp with no other character traits for B. Also, the Character B Stan's are obnoxious and use him as a self-insert / do a Character B-bowl and write everyone OOC. idk.

>>13622
>>13625
>>13626
Personally I liked Geto a lot because of nostalgia. He reminded me of several characters from way older manga and anime I was into long ago and Gege himself said he was very inspired by one of the antagonists in Yu Yu Hakusho which was really obvious. I don't know about zoomers, but I assume that's the appeal for other fans around Gege's and my age.

>JJK is essentially zoomer/gen alpha Naruto
It's Naruto if Naruto knew when to end but had less good art. If JJK was published back when I was a teenager instead of Naruto I would have been more invested because at some point I stopped caring about Naruto. It was going nowhere. I stopped reading a little before or after the Pain arc ended because at that point I was too lazy to check new chapters online. At least zoomers who grew up reading JJK while it was ongoing can easily move on now if they were disappointed with its ending and don't have to deal with 100 shitty filler episodes between the manga is adapted into more episodes if they liked the whole series. In 10 or 15 years we will have another popular WSJ manga that will be mocked as being JJK for alpha gen kek.

>>13639
>I could probably sit here and list over 20+ ships that still make me seethe to this day
Post them here!