/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>6340
i don't envy bkdk girlies. this sounds like poorly written NTR. what hurts the most when mangakas betray their female audience like this is that it seems like they go out of their way to crush out dreams in the most casually cruel way possible. like shoehorning an epilogue that completely blindsides you at the very last chapter, with a development so poor and out of nowhere you're just left in silence and go "alright then" when you finish it. they always pull this shit at the very end too, which feels extra bad because you don't have time to prepare yourself mentally for it, and because you feel used.
i think back on all the support i've given to the series in terms of buying merch, the manga, streaming the anime legally, making content for it etc. as opposed to men who usually just pirate the thing and call it a day, and yet they get the last laugh when the finale is out.
this happened enough times for me to stop giving male mangakas the benefit of the doubt, they actually just hate the part of the audience who pays their bills

>>6424
I also expect a backlash if that happens, but I'm sure Gege wants to move on from JJK and doesn't plan any sequel or spinoff so one part of his fanbase turning against him wouldn't affect him too much. I'm sure he's rich as hell now, so the only issues it could cause would be the next seasons of the anime being a bit less successful than planned and Shueisha just telling him to shut the fuck up for marketing reasons.

>they are one of the few shonen m/m pairings who might actually be canon
At this point it all depends on whatever Gojo told Geto before executing him. It's so confidential that there's a play adaptation of JJK0 right now in Japan and everytime the actors redo this scene Gojo's actor's microphone is muted on purpose and he always says a different line so people can't guess the line by reading his lips. It's so over the top it has to be important. Then there's video related that makes me even more curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkWWRrs4qXs

>i imagine yumes would also riot if some girl gets confirmed as gojo's romantic interest.
I assume they've reached the same conclusion as fujoshi who ship Gojo with any of the guys and are glad he doesn't have kids that were suddenly revealed in the epilogue.

>>6428
>At this point it all depends on whatever Gojo told Geto before executing him
i agree, it would make or break them as a romantic possibility.
i think there are plenty of subtextual hints that point to them being in love with each other, and akutami isn't opposed to BL pairings either. he himself stated that a big part of his inspiration for JJK was a BL manga he loves dearly, so at the very least he's not your average homophobic male mangaka.
i wonder if he might eventually pull off a togashi with sensui/itsuki and confirm them in an interview or guidebook 10 years after JJK's ending. i brought up this specific example because akutami stated that geto is inspired by sensui btw lol
but all of this can easily be essentially useless if it turns out gojo told him "my best friend" before he died.

and thank you for sharing that video nona! i've never seen it despite being chronically online when it comes to stsg. it really makes you wonder…

>>6424
>even without fujo goggles on i can safely say these two were gay for each other.
You can say this about pretty much any big shonen pairing though. They wouldn't be as popular as they are if they weren't accessible to anybody with eyes and no bias against yaoi. Shonen men overwhelmingly have the lion's share of their powerful moments with other men. That's just facts!
>>6427
This is why I pirate manga and buy fanmerch. If it's getting tankobon deals fujo money does not matter. With shonen I'm usually reading for the art and context for the "x but the correct ship is canon" type fanfiction, lol. The story in a vacuum is never particularly special.

>>6429
>i wonder if he might eventually pull off a togashi with sensui/itsuki and confirm them in an interview or guidebook 10 years after JJK's ending. i brought up this specific example because akutami stated that geto is inspired by sensui btw lol
I'm also expecting this for the same reason. When I watched YYH as a kid a very long time ago it was already obvious that Sensui and Itsuki were an item, I only learned Togashi confirmed it way later when I started watching Level E. I haven't read the YYH manga so maybe it's even more obvious there. This is also similar to HP and how JKR confirmed that Dumbledore was gay for Grindelwald which wasn't a surprise to me as I read the last book shortly before this interview but it shocked movie only fans.

>but all of this can easily be essentially useless if it turns out gojo told him "my best friend" before he died.
If it weren't for Geto blushing and giggling when he heard that line I would have expected something like this. On top of that there's the novel stating Gojo never said it before because that line was way too embarrassing for any of them to say it as teenagers so it's not "you're still/always my best friend" or anything similar. And definitely not Gojo apologizing for anything either.

>>6430
>You can say this about pretty much any big shonen pairing though.
No I agree with her, these two's relationship is way too over the top and way too plot relevant to simply be shallow fanservice for fujoshi or
an ott friendship because the setting itself is ott. I can't think of anything similar on top of my head. Maybe narusasu is close enough but I have never finished the manga.

>>6431
>And definitely not Gojo apologizing for anything either
the apologizing theory sends me each time because it makes literally no sense when you piece all of the evidence together. not the worst theory i've seen about his last words as i've seen some shit lol, but not really convincing either

>You can say this about pretty much any big shonen pairing though
hmm, i'd have to disagree nona, although i understand where you're coming from. same sex friendships in manga almost always feel fruity, be it due to fanservice, cultural reasons, or both.
in this specific case though i genuinely think it's a different story. it's hard to explain though as the evidence is scattered through interviews, extras and subtext as opposed to it being a more showy type of fujobait with the huge "wtf, gay" moments you usually have with shonen. if one were to read the JJK manga without keeping in mind these tidbits of info, they would actually seem way less gay than the big m/m ships lol

>>6432
>if one were to read the JJK manga without keeping in mind these tidbits of info, they would actually seem way less gay than the big m/m ships lol
I thought the reverse when watching JJK for the first time. I started with the anime so the way things were presented slightly differ from the manga though, and I read the manga a bit later. Nothing really happens between Gojo and Geto in the first season for obvious reasons but I didn't need to read any interview to understand that their relationship was compared to Yuta and Rika's when watching JJK0, it's all in the movie already. It's even more blatant in the second season/the flashback arc and the Shibuya Incident arc. I get that some of the scenes and opening/ending lyrics require translations to be understood by many fans though.

I'm kind of an old fart so maybe more recent shonen manga have gayer looking friendships than the ones I'm familiar with? I have a pretty bad memory but besides YYH and HxH having subtext as opposed to fanservice I remember Prince of Tennis, Hitman Reborn and D Gray Man being very popular with fujoshi but I never went very far into these series so I have no clue if they have plenty of fanservice or if it's just that these manga happen to have cute guys. I don't think I can include Gintama, it's a lot more episodic, way longer, I haven't finished the anime or the manga yet, and Gintoki canonically fucks at least Hasegawa and Kondo but only for the sake of comedy so it's its own category.

This fucking pairing from Genshin. Peak "I'm gonna shit it for clout and because the are hot". I have no fucking idea how it even caught up, it's ridiculous.

>>6424
>they are one of the few shonen m/m pairings who might actually be canon,
lol

Also how are people even so invested in a pairing where one dude is already dead when the manga began. Also JP fans are massive cucks and they would never riot.

To this day I'm shocked HQ hasn't gotten a retardo spin off about Kage and HInata soon or something.

>>6437
>Also how are people even so invested in a pairing where one dude is already dead when the manga began
Because of long flashbacks and a "prequel" that's technically not a prequel because it was released before the main series.

>Also JP fans are massive cucks and they would never riot.
Whether they'd do it or not doesn't matter here, the manga is over for real this time so they already gave their money to the mangaka and the publishing company. The most they could do would be boycotting the next seasons of the anime and buying less figurines but there are a lot of other fans who don't ship anyone and who will still like the series enough to compensate. I can't imagine fujoshi being as furious as fanboys who destroy their books and BDs on camera when they learn their waifus aren't virgins and/or had a boyfriend before dating the main character for their favorite series. If some of them do it they don't post about it nearly as often then.

>>6439
>Because of long flashbacks and a "prequel" that's technically not a prequel because it was released before the main series
this, also reincarnation is a thing in JJK and they meet in the afterlife
but besides the narrative they're both super handsome and charming and have a very interesting and romantic dynamic with each other so it just makes sense for people to ship them tbh

Damn, apparently I wasn't done ranting, my apologies.

>>6418
I mean, I was expecting a IzuOcha Endgame in 430 itself, in Jump's last in-magazine chapter amd when it wasn't there, I was happy to spend more time/money on canon and fandom. (I'd been burned before in other non-anime fandoms before).

At the point of 430 in early Aug, I wasn't really a big fan. I'd just watched the first season iirc as a very casual viewer. I read 430 spoilers, found out nothing was confirmed Endgame and saw all the gorgeous art and happiness of the fandom, mostly BkDks but also BakuTodo, KiriBakus, KamiJirous and to an extent, TogaChako (AUs where the kid lives). Got really really into the series by the time December rolled around.

So I got fooled thinking Deku'd be a hero again, that Bakugo & him would work together like they'd dreamed as kids, that they'd be competing like two best friends rather than the semi-desperate "I can only get you to look at me when you're trying to outdo me" race to the top (bottom, actually, like Endeavor & All Might).

Though, with them friendly and chummy like they are now, it's become more like we can just talk to each other like equals, finally. I just hate that when Izuku finally became his own person, he walks away from Bakugo. It's framed like all those BL manga we read that start with the protag's best friend he's got a crush on is getting married to his girlfriend and he finds another guy to fall in love with. As a multishipper, the possibilities are endless but sometimes you just want that one particularly elusive fish on the sea.

>>6425
Yeah anon, I'm too old to expect shounen (apart from Ao no Flag, which was a pleasant surprise) to have a canon gay ending. I was just really happy with the open-ended one in 430. To have that crushed is kinda devastating still.

>>6427
Tell me about it anon. I've seen anti-bkdks on /a/ literally say "hori thanks the cuckqueans for all your time, money and engagement so far" and it just sucks. I've seen so many people have this as their first big fandoms and they're saying stuff like "now I'm afraid to trust any mangaka with the endings because they'd give a pretty but illogical ending".

>Poorly written NTR and crushing our dreams in the most casually our dreams
I've not seen a more perfect or apt description of this shitshow, thank you.

The IzuOchas and Cuck!Deku stans were fighting over imaginary slights while we got an actual "furare chimattana, bakugo" ("man, he rejected you, Bakugo") from Kirishima. I wish at least the stupid conversation between Bakugo and Izuku happened without an audience and played off like a gag. But others have pointed out - most of Bakugo's emotional moments are played off as jokes throughout the series.

>>6582
>All my typos & the misquote
Goddammit. Sorry again.

Here's a fun post analyzing how absolutely gay the car convo was https://www.tumblr.com/bakuhatsufallinlove/769352891501821952/the-bkdk-car-conversation-is-really-fucking-gay

>>6582
I neither read BHA nor JJK but experiences have made me paranoid about m/m ships and characters that are beloved by fujos in shounen because I often feel like mangaka grow to hate ships or characters if they notice that women like them better than their shitty MC or main pairings.

This might be paranoid but I had such horrible experiences with sudden NTR out of nowhere, illogical, forced deaths and similar shit and it STRANGELY always happens to the characters or ships that are the number one among fujos. It's especially prevalent with male mangaka and comic writers too. So the killing of BkDk and the hatred of the JJK author against Gojo and killing of him plus an own devastating recent experience made me very aware of this shit again.

I also knew a guy IRL who seethed everytime women loved an antagonist instead of the MC so I genuinely believe that some men view the popularity of ships or characters they don't project into as personal rejection from women. I mean yes those women would reject them so it's even a correct assumption, but I still cannot shake off the feeling that male mangaka tend to lose their cool with this.
If you hate your own fucking characters and ship then maybe learn to create things you actually like.

>>6584
>If you hate your own fucking characters and ship then maybe learn to create things you actually like.
Tbf, it's happened in those cases too.
Sometimes people just shit the bed when their taste isn't the one that's actually popular.

>>6436 Yeah this ship is so random. Genshin m/m ships are always kind of random because there isnt many important male characters in the same regions. In the case of Fontaine, the only other males are Lyney( traveller simp) and Freminet(less screentime) so i guess people had to work with what they had. I wouldn't hate it so much if the shippers didnt make such weird cringey content.

>>6584
The male mangaka hating fujo favorites is so true and it's funny - he actually killed Bakugo twice in the story but revived him (editorial maybe? ). His revenge might have been dishing out that bittersweet, unsatisfying and open-ended finale for Bakugo and BTFOing BkDk while canonizing IzuOcha.

He said in the author comments of the last popularity poll that he'd voted for Izuku and Izuku's closest to him. It's quite evident that he's drawing a self-insert a lot of times (including for endgame couple, maybe). The worst part is how dudebros of all nations have staunchly self-inserted as Deku and you absolutely cannot insult him on places like Twitter or Reddit without getting downvoted to oblivion (they have so many bots).

They also accused Bakugo fangirls of using bots to manipulate the popularity poll. But it turned out Izuku stans and Iida stans were the ones doing so and the organizers recounted.

A counterpoint is that over the years, the dudebros have accused Hori of having a massive hard-on for and propping up Bakugo, twisting the narrative to erase his bullying. But Hori himself once said that he regrets making Bakugo take it that far. They were also incensed about Hori making Izuku act like a battered wife so I guess the epilogue was also addressing that - Izuku banters with and teases Bakugo like a best friend instead of acting nervous, terrified of getting blasted. This confident & self-assured Izuku's more common in fics that ao3 writers do (the JP fandom seems to write him closer to canon unless they're doing the Aldera Middle School/Yandere personality Izuku, at least in doujins I've seen). I wish he'd made him grow a spine much earlier in canon, it'd have made for better storytelling and also reduced harassment over the years towards BkDks (maybe!).

For now we have to be thankful he drops BkDk illustrations while also remembering he will absolutely drop IzuOcha art in the future and the dudebros will once again harass shippers. Some of the artists who do official promo art seem to like BkDk too.

>>6585
>Sometimes people just shit the bed when their taste isn't the one that's actually popular.
I never understood what psychoses someone has to have to get obsessed with this and feel personally hurt when the majority prefers a different ship. Usually they are more popular because the canon ones suck. I swear writers cannot think out of the box and view their own series as audience anymore. When I create shit I see myself as fan of it and I get most ideas because I know what I would think and want if I was the audience. But many self-insert so hard that they fail to see the whole and end up even contradicting their prior hints and writing to make the worst shit canon. Canon ships are usually the ones that make the lease sense tbh or often.

I am in a fandom where even the guys that get canon girlfriends end up with the wrong ones. Like you have one girl who literally shares most traits with one dude and even has the exact age and body that this dude is into but she never talks to him despite being in the same group because she is the waifu of another dude that has 0 chemistry with her.
Maybe the incel shitposts are right and many writers are friendless losers who can't write human relationships to save their life.

>>6585
I remember guys shitting themselves at Maou sama ending up with Chiho instead of Emi (pic rel for funny seething) but I’m not sure if that’s what you’re referring towards?

>>6589
I think this is what she meant. That even het pairings are suffering from this.
I think the problem here is that male writers usually prefer the shitty tradwife pairing with weak, naive girl and in case of Maoh Emi was way too strong and equal to him which is why it would have been a great pairing but we cannot have that, because the writer is too insecure to imagine getting a real woman as wife.

I think a lot of creators simply hate characters that break the gender sterotypes.
Tomboys for example are usually getting jack shit and gay-coded men fall into the same category because a "real" man must get a boner and nose bleeding when he sees a woman or even a naked loli so I am almost sure that politics influence the mindset here even though I don't want to sound like a woke tard.

>>6590
To me it never mattered, I liked everyone in Maou sama and never really cared about ships in it so I didn't care who he ended up with
I think he just went with Chiho because she was the main girl in the anime. Either way the seething was entertaining to me.

>>6590
>That even het pairings are suffering from this.
It's been one million years and I'm still a little butthurt about Danny Phantom. I also remember the endings of Naruto and Bleach were more Ichiruki and Narusaku shippers getting dumped on more than Sasunaru and whatever Ichigo's popular yaoi ship was (Grimmjow?).
>>6582
>I was just really happy with the open-ended one in 430. To have that crushed is kinda devastating still.
This is kind of how I feel about it. Like, wow a shonen author who acknowledges that crushes you have as a teen ain't shit? Revolutionary. Just kidding 8 years later they are still crushing on each other despite having little meaningful contact since then. It's so goofy. Anyway as the fandom dies down Bkdk will continue to be the ship that gets the most content, just like Sasunaru before it and that is the metric that really matters (because if it didn't, nobody would be mad about it).

>>6592
>I'm still a little butthurt about Danny Phantom
Was a bit too young for it as a kid (started airing when I was like 3 or 4) but when I watched some of it as an adult I liked the chemistry between Danny and Val, kind of a shame they went with the default 'nlog best friend' love interest.

>>6590
>>6589
Nah, both were shitty options. One a genki retard, the other a tsundere asshole. I hate both tropes.

>>6592
Hey, fwiw a t least Bakugo didn't go down the Frog girl route. I remember she was more popular ship than Ochako at one point, but then she basically became a no fun allowed background character.

>>6595
Was that around the Kamino rescue arc?

RIP to Iida's character after the Stain arc and Kirishima's after the Overhaul arc. And then Endeavor overshadowed Shoto.

I wanted to see so much of class 1A and 1B but Hori had a few core themes he kept pushing and 200 new characters who were hit or misses.

>>5013
I know that feeling nonnie. It's not really what you're talking about but I have a few mutuals who like sakamoto days and with the anime coming in a few weeks I'm reminded of how much I kind of resent (not really) nagumo x shin. Feels like the most egregious case of shipping two hot, popular characters and having to jump through hoops to make them into the IT ship in the Eastern fandom. They barely talk (4 panels at most!!!), no previous history together to make it spicy, and their only relevance is to stand next to each other in splash art since Lu is no longer relevant kek. At least I'm guaranteed pretty fanart for both. Plus I also get a giggle out of some people seething over it beating their het ships.

But sometimes I can't help but sigh dejectedly and say, "Really? Out of everyone here you choose them as your OTP?"

>>6621
Anon wasn't alive during the crossover ship craze. Being in the same series? Try being a Danny Phantom x Any Nick show shipper

>>6623
Admittedly, I wasn't in that part of the internet, but if my response made it seem I don't like crossover shipping then pls don't LOL. Some of my teenage years were spent reading FMA/Harry Potter crossovers and greatly enjoying the sans x sans ships of various aus (afterdeath, errorink, dreamberry, etc). I'm sure if I was born older then I would've absolutely tried out Danny Phantom x Any Nickelodeon char ship. If I sound to mean then I apologize but that doesn't mean I can't recognise why some people ship them and it not being my personal cup of tea.

>>6625
> FMA/Harry Potter
based. I think my first fanfiction wave was literally crossovers exclusively because I NEEDED everything to take place in Naruto, Bleach and indeed- Harry Potter.

That being said, I had a notp similarly of Demyx/Zexion from Kingdom Hearts. They are the youngest looking and most attractive male members of Organization XIII and look like teenagers. There was no Birth by Sleep either, no lore. People just mass picked the two late teens looking boys and decided to ship them and I HATED it. Now? I don't care. But ages 14-18 I felt disgust at the utterance of any 'Zemyx.'

Oh, and they never once talk to each other, nor have a single exchange where they're in the same room. They breathe the same air at best and in their own game I am positive they don't even know each other's names.

They actually meet in KH3 but the game seems to be under the assumption you ship them because there is no way to read their cutscene together otherwise.

>>6626
Ohh my memories are unlocked, zemyx, also saix x xemnas, they were so popular back then.
I think part of the reason for their popularity came from how different the two are. Zexion is this emo looking bookish nerd, while Demyx is a carefree musician with shaved hair and a laid-back vibe. That contrast must have fueled so many fan headcanons.

>>6627
At least Saix and Xemnas spoke to each other in canon. Zexion and Demyx never met in KH2. My ship was Xigbar x Demyx. I feel vindicated thanks to KH3's Luxu business and that in 358/2 Days, Demyx calls Xigbar "Xiggy."

Besides, Zexion was better off with Lexaeus. That was hot

>>6623
I feel like characters in the same series who make no attempt to know each other are more of a challenge than throwing characters from different series together and making them interact by way of unusual circumstances. In that respect I think your best bet is using an AU to push two characters to engage with one another, but you need a dynamic in mind to motivate this. When you grab guys from wherever you're more likely to pick them because they'll be interesting as a duo.

By the way, what era would the crossover ship craze have been? I completely missed Danny Phantom myself, not sure if it's not living in Canada/US or a generational thing. FF.net had shitloads of crossovers that required their own categories, but it was a regular gen fic occurrence rather than a notable craze. It was also more stuff like "the Beybladers go to Xavier's School for the Gifted" and "Inuyasha and Kagome accidentally go to Hogwarts and date gasp other people". The isekai magic academy of its day.

>>6634
I was teasing anon but honestly, it only really annoys me when/if there's a push for a ship that doesn't even have potential outside of general attractiveness and the most shallow College AU tropes.

I write crack pairings almost exclusively and always have. Inuyasha example, Jakotsu/literally any male cast member or Bankotsuo (i miss him.) C-tier bad guys for like, 3 episodes but I remember wanting fanfics of them because their motivations and deaths just had so much potential for making a life elsewhere. But, say, Sesshoumaru x Koga is more or less "they're attractive" and that's about… it. Picrel was A++.

>By the way, what era would the crossover ship craze have been?
I want to say 2008-2010? The new stories were a huge storm of anime x popular cartoon or anime x anime. Hitman Reborn and High School DxD are the repeats I've seen the most.

>>6635
>Bankotsuo
My bad. Been years and my memory of spelling is mostly from bad translations and middle school memories.

>>6586
I think Wrio/Lyney is interesting and pretty hot. It's good for hatesex at least.

>>6639
>Wrio/Lyney
It had no business to be so intense I almost hated Wrio until reveal, damn that thug enjoyed mind torturing Lyney
Fontaine story loves punching three legged pups like Furina and him, there’s Navia suffering too but idc

>>577 boy am I glad to see another tatsujun hater LMFAO

I have sort of an issue with tatsujun, though it's mostly with the fans. One of my problems is when they INSIST that Jun's the canon love interest for him and they attack anyone who ships Tatsuya with anyone that isn't Jun. Apparently Eternal Punishment doesn't exist. I feel like they don't take the fact that Tatsuya gets four options to choose who he likes in a certain dungeon into account or they ignore it solely based on the fact Jun's on it. If the player chooses Jun, the relationship bar changes and he can get the contact option to flirt with Jun, that's literally it. It doesn't change the plot whatsoever and is never mentioned again in Eternal Punishment.

Maybe it's just me, but I think a fair amount of tatsujun fans either watched bits and pieces of the game when Jun was on-screen and called it a day or they just ran with the fact Jun likes Tatsuya and is immediately like "THEY ARE CANON!" but fail to realize that there is no canon romance in Innocent Sin, if there was, I don't think Tatsuya would have the ability to choose who he likes and only one person would be chosen or it'd be clear on who it was. People are still free to ship whoever they want of course, but at the end of the day no one's canon in Innocent Sin. Eternal Punishment is a different story though, ahem… I think it's fucking dumb when people insist on something being canon when it isn't.

Again Jun does like Tatsuya, but so does Lisa, so it's kind of silly to act like Jun's the only one with canonical feelings and to run with it. Besides, the whole romance thing or how people think it is with Jun was literally confirmed by Atlus it was only to satisfy the female fans who were into the BL subculture. I don't think they can fathom the fact that two guys can have a platonic relationship because that's the vibe I got anytime Tatsuya and Jun were together, even in their childhood days.

>>577
>when the "gay option" is just one throwaway line with no impact on the game whatsoever.
Excuse me, did you forget when picking Jun gives you one (1) new negotiation option where Tatsuya and Jun flirts in front of a demon and the demon either ships them or says homophobic insults?! But seriously, I like tatsujun but I've stopped interacting with the fandom a very long time ago so I've avoided shippers saying stupid things about P2 for a very long time as well. Thank god for that, it seems like it's still as unbearable as when I was still on tumblr in 2015.

I fucking despise Chrollo x Kurapika, I cant even google an image to paste for an example because I hate looking at that ship. Its everywhere and everyone and their mother ships it and I get it, I know why people like it, the source material is there, theres a compelling dynamic with tension or whatever, but I absolutely despise it regardless. I also dislike Leorio x Kurapika but not as much as Chrollo x Kurapika; I guess my hatred comes from the fact I'm one of the few people who prefer seme Kurapika and Kurapika is primarily a uke in both ships.
I have a huge vendetta against this account on twitter that commissions a ridiculous amount of Chrollo x Kurapika art, I have her blocked for ages but her stupid OOC commissions of daddy dom buff Chrollo and uwu twink Kurapika jumpscare my timeline when an innocuous artist happens to accept her commission
>picrel unrelated, a superior crackship imo

>>9902
I don't necessarily hate or like tatsujun, tbh, I think i'm more neutral on it, I just hate how the fandom acts about it and shit, it's still mostly worse on twt, but I do not blame you for avoiding shippers!

>>9903
Aw I mildly ship it and I know who you're talking about, I think she's a queen but I understand how if it's someone's NOTP then that'd be their worst nightmare. If only all our OTPs had someone who commissioned like crazy like that and it was all tagged correctly for those who don't want to see it

>>9905
All power to rich fujos who spend their fortune procuring the arts towards their OTP, I respect it, I think they're stacies, however I wish her art wasn't blatantly OOC (my NOTP bias aside) it's honestly humorous how she sees Chrollo as this shredded mafioso dom daddy when he's thin and mildly androgynous in canon. I guess when comparison to Kurapika anyone can look turbo masculine but still.

>>9903
I gladly have no clue who you are referring to, but I could never get into this ship simply because the majority is seme Chrollo and I firmly believe he should be getting ass railed. No one can convince me otherwise.

>>9906
the anime probably contributes the most to that, and his earlier appearance

>>9908
if 2011 anime has a million haters, then i am one of them. if it has ten haters, then i am one of them. if it has only one hater then that is me. if 2011 anime has no haters, then that means i am no longer on earth. if the world loves 2011 anime, then i am against the world.

>>9905
I can't fault her either. Much props to those who can put money towards their fujo fantasies, I try as much as I can too, but when you've completed molded the characters to the point where they are unrecognizable to other fans are you a true fan or are you a fan of what you have molded? Are they just your OCs at this point? Maybe I'm reading too into it.

>>9906
It's weird, because Chrollo with his hair slicked back has a completely different aura from hair down Chrollo. I'm glad Togashi draws him more like this in "recent" chapters.

>>9911
Absolutely based.

>>9903
I didn't care of any of Kurapika ships until I saw Chrollo x Kurapika fanart. It's one of ships I want one to destroy another in spite of feelings either Kurapika succeeds in PT's demise or Chrollo removes Kurapika's eyes.

>>9922
On the plus side the fanarts you listed actually make chrollo look equally as ikemen. In my humble and delusional opinion though, kurapika is the one sticking his dick in the ass thank you.