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>>8357Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
No.9147
>>9146tifs are always such a psychological mess, its fascinating
No.9148
>>9146I actually watched this video and this is the gist of it:
>Salty clickbaiter claims to make a "scientific study" i.e. cherrypicked stat wrangling about the ratio of male and female characters submitted to Art Fight, keeps coming up with metrics pulled out of her ass to test until she finds the ones that suit her personal bias and includes a 10-minute derailment about the racial disparity of submitted characters just for pad the video even though it has nothing to do with the original topic and ends it with an emotionally loaded 10-minute rambling rant at the viewer, in total only 10 minutes of the video actually exhibits her topical findingsShe keeps getting proven wrong by her own metrics (Such as the distribution of the characters' gender, the amount of depth put into their bios, the amount of drawings submitted of them) because surprise, Art Fight slants toward female user majority, so she massages the results further until she can present them as evidence supporting her hypothesis. I get that being an artist focusing on female characters she probably has some kind of a chip on her shoulder about this topic and wants to vent but trying to frame it as a legitimate study when you can't handle the facts is laughable. People will watch this and hear all the big words and angry "WHY DO YOU HATE WOMEN??? WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO WRITE ABOUT WOMEN???" lines thrown at their faces and immediately posture themselves. The misogyny in the art scene is a real thing and needs to be addressed, but it has way more to do with mainstream media cutting female characters short and making them stick to misogynistic tropes, male art professors taking advantage of female students, male artists stealing female artists' concepts and taking all the credit, male artists being allowed more leeway and room to fuck up than female artists etc., not a bunch of teenagers submitting their yaoi OCs to Art Fight. But of course, addressing industrial issues is scary and might damage your own career, so it's better to just police other women.
No.9151
>>9146>accusing all visibly male OCs of being menum seems kind of transphobic to me sweatie…
No.9153
How does the Tumblr algorithm work? It keeps recommending me 3DPD heterosexual content despite the fact that I don't click or follow any blogs with it. I keep adding tags to my block list but it still shows up.
No.9154
>>9153Are you on a browser with ublock or browsing from the app? The 3DPD might be sponsored posts.
No.9155
>>8961Whats the most fujobaity Kamen Rider? Kuuga had potential but I haven't finished it
No.9157
>>9146>>9148It's silly to me, because I've done art in male dominated spaces, and on there you get a frequent excuse in art trades that they can't draw your character (unless you genderbend them) because "men are hard, I can't draw men, I'm not interested in men so it's hard to practice men." Everything is female characters all day every day, and males break them. The fact female artists have a female OC at all, even if she's joined at the hip to a male love interest or plot companion, is more than many male hobbyists will do. And yet we beat ourselves up about it all the time.
In my opinion, the most fun I've had with female characters was when they occurred organically in my stories, and the worst I've understood a female OC was when I purposefully tried to make them according to the sensitivity of arguments like this. Which, thinking about it, the last time I did that was probably ten years ago, this rhetoric has been round and round for so long.
>>9153Could someone you follow be liking it but not reblogging? I had the same issue with Cats the musical and was baffled until I got one that said "(Username) liked this" over it and realized they'd been liking Cats shipping but not reblogging it this whole time.
No.9158
>>9157>The fact female artists have a female OC at all, even if she's joined at the hip to a male love interest or plot companion, is more than many male hobbyists will do. Precisely. Male artists (who are often much more prolific and have more industry credentials than women due to the boys' club effect) hyperfocus on their underdeveloped female characters created as their personal manic pixie dream girl muses and do nothing but goon over them day in day out, yet everyone treats it as a force majeure that can't and shouldn't be challenged. Meanwhile, female artists creating content for their wish fulfillment male OCs are constantly put under the microscope and pointed out as morally corrupt wenches who hate women. And when they do create female characters, it still isn't enough because not even the people ranting and raving about the issue care about anything else than their personal feeling of superiority. Just look at all the "sapphics" who unironically think Honkai Impact the 3rd is a feminist game because it only has female characters despite all of them looking like generic oversexualized anime waifus and confirmed for being genderbent male staff self inserts.
No.9160
>>9154No, the ads tend to be like this.
Is it because I browse in incognito mode? Or maybe because the kink tags I follow skew heterosexual?
No.9161
>>9155It's been a while since I watch so the details could be rather off, but in general it's
>Kamen rider WHas the buddy cop dynamics, hardboiled detective (not really) x stoic boy genius doing the brainwork. It has an anime spinoff (fuuto PI) if you want 2D but I'm not sure if the anime was any good
>Kamen Rider OOONice chill guy x bratty monster
If you like a bickering couple type this will scratch that itch. It's my personal fave KR but also I'm a huge sucker for Yasuko Kobayashi's writing. The secondary riders also have very baity scenes.
>Kamen Rider BuildNarcissistic genius x happy-go-lucky single brain cell yankee
The yankee guy is also the same actor playing the actor in the Cherry Magic manga lol
I haven't really watch the more recent riders apart from Gavv so there might be others
No.9162
>>9161>playing the bottom in the Cherry Magic dramaBrainfart moment
No.9163
>>9160It's probably one or both of those. To my understanding you have less of a footprint on incognito tabs so it's throwing you the lowest common denominator content. If you are on kink tags that skew het it has simply mistaken you as a hetfag, especially if they have overlap with romantasy fandoms.
No.9164
>>9146Can't these people enjoy stories with characters that they don't self insert as? This is probably the reason why they break down so easily when people don't like their content, it feels personal to them because obviously they are projecting into the characters.
No.9263
When I was 12, walking through Chinatown, I found a figure of Aoba Seragaki… I really wanted it I LOVED IT but my grandma wouldn´t let me buy it because Aoba was SHIRTLESS…i never got that figure again AND I´M STILL CRYING ABOUT IT
No.9264
Is it normal to gain new fetishes/kink after that time of the month? I could've swore men in straight-up bikinis (tops and all) wouldn't work but it does now for some reason.
No.9328
>>9327I do know a lot of
lc yumes and hetshippers accuse fujos of trooning out but fail to realize that a lot of the examples they tend to post are also yumes/hetshippers and not only fujos. Like they're doing friendly fire because they refuse to open their eyes and realize that adding a vagina does not make it fujo even if they are being delusional about pronouns.
No.9329
>>9327I more just get annoyed when they try and convert me into a yume for shipping N and Touya from pokemon kek (among other age gap ships in that series)
>JUST SELF INSERT SO N ISN'T A PEDONo I do what I want fuck off.
No.9330
>>9328Exactly. A majority of 'fujo' TIFs wouldve never enjoyed yaoi in the first place unless they put an element of self inserting into it, except in a woke way so its not a boring straight ship like the other girls/yumes. Its infuriating on both sides and TIFs never know to pick whether yaoi is empowering (because it reminds me of
me me me) or fetishizing (because it makes
me feel bad!!!)
wish they'd all fuck off to real scroteshit like bara/geikomi where all the hairy uggos look closer to IRL tifs instead of harping on female fujos for being ebil fetishizers yet consuming their content and projecting their cuntboy shit on it
No.9331
>>9329But Touko and N has always been just as popular on the yume side, so why only talk shit about N/Touya? It feels insulting when people find a classic protagonist ship too problematic for age gap or whatever reasons so they create a selfinsert that has the same exact history and role as the protagonist character but just slap a Y/N on it. What's wrong with just aging up the protagonist if you care that much? You can see they acknowledge the canon chemistry but aren't willing to admit it.
Annoying as fuck that several pokemon het ships I dislike have been revealed as adult/minor thanks to the teraleak but the anti mob never came for them, they only care about the ships I DO like.
No.9334
>>9333To fujos, a male character who seems uninterested in women means it's easy to read him as gay. To hetshippers/yumes, it means you can use that 'your vagina is the only one special enough to change him' trope. Otome game love interests with a description like 'not interested in women/appears uninterested in women' is common and basically a signifier that he's Too Serious For Silly Ladies or his autism is too strong or whatever.
It's kind of different when the guy in question is also canonically very close to another guy or shows heavy gay vibes in another way, but hetshippers find a way.
No.9335
>>9328This is what gets me. The majority of "yaoi" fan art featuring a TIF coupled with a regular man is blatant self-insert art. That's not even getting into how hypocritical it is to consider TIF x male to be BL when you know damn well any art featuring a TIM with a female character would be accurately identified as not being GL to those same people.
No.9336
>>9334Yeah, like the classic Mary Sue trope that came along with romancing Spock because they were so speshul even an autism alien would love them.
I just find it irritating because they could just pick literally any other male character. Levi specifically was made to appeal to the fujo audience.
So when you think about it, yumes have no right to complain about anything since they also creep up on characters that show no interest in women, thereby trying to change canon just as much as the fujos they complain about lel
No.9337
>>9332I know that fujos can have their own brand of autism but the whole concept of selfshipping just seems like a way to make yourself annoyed all the time since it's based on something so fragile.
No.9338
>>9337It's just a repeat of kinning with the "NO DOUBLES" autism
No.9339
>>9337I just don't get why anyone shares it online. With ships, you can connect with other fans of the same ship. Who the fuck cares about Husbando x Not(You)? Selfshipping is so intensely personal. Even if you ship a tiny rarepair you can get other people on board with your work. At least the first person POV yume art with only the husbando in it makes sense even if it makes me uncomfortable to look at.
No.9343
>>9340Kaveh broke so many yumes, it's fucking hilarious how much his existence makes them seethe.
No.9345
>>9340Good example! Added this pairing to my interest list mwahahah
No.9347
>>9346>western cartoonWhich one is it?
No.9349
>>9347Arcane Transformers wombo combo with a dash of Mouthwashing for how talented so many artists are.
Pic related are all the couples in the comic run and labeled.
No.9350
>>9349Correction. I said Mouthwashing while my brain blinked after mentioning canon. I know JimCurly isn't actually canon. But the fandom still does the mentioned annoying shit
No.9356
>>8867They say they hate men but then they always defend male interests, defend the right for men to exist in fiction while being ugly but the only media they like is anime made for straight men to goon over because of some of those men are troon lesbians.
No.9357
>>9340I didn't realize KFC stood for Kaveh Fucking Culled.
>>9351I'm in a kid-friendly discord server for the free downloads and the mods who are always breathing down people's necks for posting the slightest blood or "toxic" ship were all excitedly telling everyone how they planned to play Mouthwashing and shit. I swear it was like Killing Stalking where the trend was mostly people claiming they were doing a thing for clout instead of actually consuming and engaging with the media.
No.9363
crazy how yaoi is in fact more feminist than yuri
No.9364
>>9351Mouthwashing honestly was the modern fandom speedrun record.
>Short indie game with dark themes and a low budget vibe>Some loudmouth video game streamer plays it>Everyone becomes obsessed with it in two days>Ship wars and accusations of problemacy>Tiktok dance cosplay videos>Edgelord adult artists make provocative art of the to "trigger the libz" >3 hour video essays about how the game is pro-rape>The game studio itself has to ask the fans to tone it down>Everyone forgets about the fandom in less than three months No.9503
>>9364I feel bad for any new IPs that attract the modern internet because of how insufferable normalfags are. Mainstream fandoms are now populated by retards and children, and grifters who want to profit out of said retards and children.
It's like every new fanbase is the Steven Universe fandom on steroids.
No.9504
>>9503Would it be stupid to say I prefer that to no fandom? I'm willing to wade through shit to get to the god-tier fan art and fanfics. There are so many series that I'm desperate for literally ANYTHING to exist and they've got 20 fanfics max.
No.9505
>>9504Nta but i agree with you. It's easier to filter through shit to curate your fandom experience than to have zero fan content and discussion. When i enjoy a creator i really hope for them to receive some kind of recognition for sharing their passion with the world instead of being ignored and getting axed by their publisher or platform
No.9532
Damn it, I want to post without having to deal with the CP spam!
Anyway, I always wonder how it may feel like to be a Tumblr girl. I've always been a weeb so movie actor/RPFish adjacent ships were never appealing to me, but I often find myself wondering how it feels like to be "wired" in a way to enjoy SPN, HP, Sherlock, etc. I feel like a lot of the peak tumblr was all a "you just had to be there" moment that can't be replicated anymore but I'm sure there's still some big scene for RPF fiction or movie ships.
Nowadays though, I feel like the people who like "realistic-looking" ships/characters are the ones often talking and complaining about real queerness and fandom activism nowadays. After all, movie actors still emulate real people, which is a different feeling from looking at anime and games which is inherently unrealistic.
Sometimes it feels like the Tumblr girls have/had the most fun though, although most fic always reads like OCs when it comes from media like that
No.9542
>>9532>Anyway, I always wonder how it may feel like to be a Tumblr girl. I've always been a weeb so movie actor/RPFish adjacent ships were never appealing to me, but I often find myself wondering how it feels like to be "wired" in a way to enjoy SPN, HP, Sherlock, etc. Funnily enough I was a tumblr girl without being into Superwholock. I started out in the tumblr Homestuck fandom because of all the roleplaying Ask blogs and then branched out into the anime side of tumblr. Most of my memories are from the Free! Iwatobi swim club fandom cause it was super cozy and a Free! fan introduced me to BL games on her blog by posting screencaps of Dramatical murder reconnect and this was huge for me. This is also bringing back memories of a prominent RinHaru(Or was it HaruRin?) shipper who provided translations for the fandom. I don't remember her tumblr username but I do remember that at some point she wrote an original BL novel called Fellfire summer. Meanwhile another prominent Free! fandom member from that time who also provided translations, aitaikimochi, has moved on to other fandoms and has her own webshop for imports now. Just realised this isn't within the scope of the thread anymore but I was feeling nostalgic.
No.9544
>>9532Same here, I've always found slash and slashers interesting even though I'm a weeb at heart. I never got close enough to those spaces to see the bad so I do feel somewhat nostalgic when I think back to 2014 Tumblr. On the other hand, a lot of those same people turned out to be gendies like you said so maybe there was a lot of current day fandom rot already brewing there lol.
On a similar note, I wish I could have experienced fandoms before the influx of normies and gendies took over
I'm a zoomer so unfortunately I became active in fandom spaces when enshittification already started happening. I'm sure it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows, but knowing that there used to be a time where people weren't obsessed with thinking fandom is activism makes me a bit sad when I think about it.
No.9545
>>9532Like
>>9542 I was around for Homestuck but there was a decent portion of weeaboo shippers/fujos hanging around early 10s tumblr as well, it was how I got EN yaoi and general discussion for a lot of 3DS/PS3/Vita games. It was the spawning pool for a lot of "industry" people who also may or may not have also been on /a/ and /co/. I'm also getting really nostalgic thinking about it. The post-smartphone pre-gamergate internet was honestly pretty chill if you learned to not engage with landmines. I even liked the tumblr/4chan cross pollination (does anybody remember "Indexer" from /hsg/? That's where I learned to stop saving tumblr thumbnails!).
>>9544>experienced fandoms before the influx of normies and gendies took overHonestly I wouldn't go back if given the choice. I'm spoiled by modern QoL. Yeah it was fun and maybe even "SOVL" to trawl through JP fansites for the good shit, but I definitely don't have that kind of time anymore. I don't think anybody does, not even the kids who are the age I was when I was doing all that haha.
If it makes you feel any better I think the fandom=activism people are either growing up or leaving fandom spaces. I don't really see that kind of stuff anymore unless it's reposted here and it used to be that I could NOT escape it.