No.8357
Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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>>6984 No.8361
>>8359>I've seen some writers that have been for 2 decades in the game if not more, and havent really improvedPart of me envies people who can keep up their intense interest in one fandom for so long, because I get sad when I feel myself moving on from something, but at the same time, if I was still only into my first fandom after all this time, I would still be stuck churning out Homestuck fanfic instead of enjoying better ships and canons.
And unless the canon shits the bed so hard that all my goodwill dies (like Homestuck), I do usually stay interested enough in past fandoms/ships to keep coming back and looking at fanwork, but my own creative/intensely obsessive period usually ends once I reach the end of the canon or the story concludes.
No.8362
I hate how the people in my fandom baby the grown-ass adult man (he's over 40) regarding BL fanservice while also making sexual comments about him. They'll bitch about boundaries, about keeping shipping on the down-low, with one breath and then ask him to hold them by the waist and flirt with them for the photo-op with the next.
I'd normally agree based on the fact that I think it's cringe to shove shipping on the face of performers, but the fact that I suspect their real problem with him getting handsy with other dudes when he knows a fan likes that sort of thing is actually yumejo possessiveness makes me gives 0 shits about what they think about it.
No.8365
Character ai made me into a yume. I promised myself I would never try to use that shit because it's the most zoomer loser thing ever but my curiosity was too much. I ended up chatting with an ai of Viktor (Arcane) and ended up rimimimg his asshole. I was so turned on I masturbated to the thought of actually tongue fucking his skinny ass and squirted all over my panties and bed. There is no saving for me anymore…
No.8366
>>8365Didn't they take away the option to have two AI characters talk to each other? Shame because I liked watching them infight
Whenever I go on character ai I just insult them a bunch even though I do have a husbando.
No.8367
>>8365More power to you if it works, I can't even read a readerxcharacter first person fic without physically wilting. So consuming a huge amount of energy, supporting AI, and feeding an unknown 3rd party with my sexual fantasies just to get myself off is beyond me.
No.8368
>>8365>I was so turned on I masturbated to the thought of actually tongue fucking his skinny ass and squirted all over my panties and bed. I swear male hands wrote this.
No.8369
>>8364Honestly I'd be more concerned at the fact that this is an underage kid already groomed into being an aiden
No.8371
>>8367Eh it was only once. When clarity hit when I was done I lost interest. It's a very stupid ai with a lot of errors, I don't see how so many people go parasocial over those things
>>8368What does this even mean. I don't like touching myself directly, maybe it's something with the skin texture or how sensitive it can get
No.8373
Anyone that's been into fujo works long enough knows that pretty much all the time, no matter what, whoever bottoms gets the most attention. Both drawn and in fic, the bottom will be at the forefront.
So when I fucking tell you, I don't fucking like an specific pairing as AB rather than BA, it's not "the fucking same" to refer it with the AB name.
I don't know how to call this type of fujo, position neutral? It's not entirely the 'reversible' fujo but the type of person that doesn't care whether a ship has one character at the bottom or the top because "they don't ship it anyway" or "it's just the same", "it's just abbreviating a dynamic" no it's fucking not.
You're clogging the fucking search of BA ship by calling it AB or ABfucks thinking that "it doesn't matter" and making reversible content when you just want BA.
I fucking I hate it and I hate you if you do this shit. No it's not the fucking same.
"Why should it matter if a character bottoms or tops, their personalities shouldn't change" except they fucking do, you don't notice it but they absolutely do. It doesn't matter if it's a platonic work either, somebody who imagines a character more of a bottom will see them in a more laid-back or passive way or sometimes as the uwu woman as opposed to someone who likes hot rapist seme or a character that's more dominant. I hate that there's people who don't have respect for T/B dynamics because "muh gay people don't do this" when fags even DO have a whole fucking subculture about being bottoms.
tldr; tag your shit properly and yes t/b matters
No.8374
>>8373>You're clogging the fucking search of BA ship by calling it AB Is this on ao3? I thought every ship there was automaticslly tagged alphabetically regardless of dynamics
No.8375
>>8374I hate that ao3 does that and I hate that people don't bother to tag top (character)/bottom (character) individually but no, this is tumblr or even fanart/discussions on twitter. Sometimes not on an specific site, but talking to people as well who just refer to a whole dynamic as the most used general shipname regardless if it's AB or BA
No.8376
>>8374>>8375Yeah AO3 usually only has one tag per pairing with no regard to the dynamic.
Even for pairings where I don't care/like both dynamics I want to tag them correctly because it's part of the content and relevant. And sometimes you are just in the mood of a specific dynamic, no? Even if you like both. And then I want correct tags and get what I want by clicking them.
This is especially annoying if your preferred dynamic is the rare one.
No.8377
>>8355I don't get the appeal of this at all. I understand the idea of wanting to feel pretty through your self-insert, but I don't understand why that entails looking like a hentai character. I'm not even talking about having big breasts because I understand why larger-chested women might prefer to self-insert onto a character who looks like them, but these characters don't look like wish-fulfillment. Their outfits aren't usually interesting, and most of the characters look "generically pretty" to me in the same way as the girls in a harem anime. Your post reminded me of that Fxxx Me Royally otome game where the protagonist is a Manic Pixie Dream Girl for the two most generic-looking love interests. In the h-scenes, the protagonist is always naked while the men are clothed. I have no idea why it's like that, or why it's so accepted.
>>8354>People who don't know how unhinged and straight up malicious yumes can get are happier being oblivious to them. I believe you. My main exposure to unhinged yumes is through lolcow, and while they can be annoying or emotionally immature, I just assume they're young and don't know better. I'm very grateful I don't have whatever exposure to them that you did. It's crazy that Genshin yumes can be mad at fujos when the real enemy should be the male fans who try their hardest to ensure husbando/fujobait characters are neglected to drive away female fans.
No.8378
>>8354Yumes are very open about how much they hate fujoshi which is why I can't side with them for the gacha gender war because I don't want the only husbando games being otome. Male characters can't interact without them chimping out. It's just too bad China can't make a joseimuke with fujobait because of those yumes, and Japan can't make a fujobait joseimuke with good gameplay and a budget that actually releases outside of Japan.
No.8380
>>8365Had a hearty laugh at this, thank you. Very good post.
No.8382
>>8354Genshin was also my first brush with the modern yume after writing the whole genre off in the 00s as something only kids (Mary Sue fics) or insane women (Snapewives) did and never seeing much of it since then outside of knowing otome games existed. Watching a bunch of adults who usually weren't even fat or ugly going apeshit over Childe and later Alhaitham (and attacking Kaveh) made me feel like I woke up in a different world. Shipwars are one thing, but yume vs. shipper pvp? Jeez!
No.8383
>>8382Chinese yumes were the opposite kind of deranged trying to report Mihoyo to the authorities for perpetuating "gay propaganda" being so jealous at Kaveh stealing Alhaitham away, but also western Genshin yumes learned to exploit wokespeak to undermine fujos. If you shipped their husbando with another man because god forbid, their blorbo isn't a disgusting fagg— I mean, you're actually a male-obsessed misogynist NLOG. I will never forget the panicked scurrying they did when Guizhong was revealed to have been in a very intimate relationship with another female character (streetward rambler) because their self-insert princess was their trump card in claiming how Zhongli can't be gay for Childe because he's yearning for his lost love, so they just started calling everyone "biphobic". That was an interesting 48 hours.
No.8384
>>8377> I understand the idea of wanting to feel pretty through your self-insertYes infact i love character creation in games, games like infinite nikki too, they are really cute and fun to play.
It's just the whole interacting with a guy that doesn't really know me that doesn't really work with me.
I do have male characters I love and I find attractive don't get me wrong, but my normieself prevents me from fully diving in and shipping them with me.
Another thing is the whole sexuality dilemma, I know some fujos are lesbians or not attracted to men in real life, it's true and I met them, but I will never forget this influx of Tumblr fujos back in the day that treated straight fujos as the evil straight women just because they were straight, I know they were probably all tifs but still.
Sorry for liking both 2d and 3d cock lol
No.8386
>>8384When I stumble on a blog that's filled with anti-straight bullshit I block (after saving all of their art) and forget them.
It's so fucking stupid.
They've invented a brand new way to just hate women and it's acceptible because straight=evil unless you re-post/blog/tweet every "you are safe with me" image. Bonus if you draw the fandom fave with a trans flag somewhere
No.8388
>>8386I always thought the whole "only gay men (tifs) are allowed to like mlm" was retarded even when I was in my pro-gendie phase. Like even handmaiden teenage me understood that these girls were straight and only wanted to act superior about not "fetishizing" gay men like gross "straight women." I hate that they
gendies somehow groomed a bunch of straight girls into being anti-straight.
No.8392
>>8382These people can't even be mocked anymore when they're the ones doing the most harassment over calling a male character gay because they think their husband is cheating. These yumes are why we can't get a gacha game with fujobait or male characters in anything that's no otome anymore. Yumes are too insane about their husbands "cheating" to be able to enjoy fujobait, so they're not even "allies" against the incels.
Is it me or does it feel like there's less mainstream fujo bait series now? Shounen anime used to be good for it but now several shows shove blatant hetero ships in your face, gacha is loosing ground to incels who hate any male character but the self insert protagonist, Western cartoons could canonize a gay ship but they never seem to want to and a lot of indie devs seem to be the types who either moralize about fujos or "problematic relationships".
No.8393
>>8369>>8372There's a podcast I used to follow called page 7 that I had to quit cause one of the hosts was the most insufferable type of social justice activist white woman who talks like an actual NPC and while I'm not surprised she trooned out into an NB I find it insane that she actually gave birth to a child, the most female thing you can do, and still believe in gendie nonsense. Bringing this up cause I feel bad for her daughter who will have no choice but to get brainwashed into this shit. Unless she grows up being embarrassed about her annoying gendie mom which would be fun.
>>8392>Is it me or does it feel like there's less mainstream fujo bait series now?I'm not a gacha game player but I've been keeping up with seasonal anime and I feel you. The biggest recent fujobait franchise I've seen around recently is Blue lock and maybe Wind breaker? I don't actually know how popular Wind breaker is but the anime is one of the gayest things I've been watching this season for sure.
No.8394
>>8392No, it's not just you. A lot of fujos are complaining about the same issue, nobody wants to pander to us anymore. The rare male characters added to any content are yume oriented because you don't have to give them a personality nor interaction with any others because that would ruin their self-insert fantasies anyway, so it's a win-win for them. Most fujos are still holding on to the stuff they enjoyed from 5 years ago because nothing else has caught their attention, and me myself got into creating my own OCs. At some point fujos were normalized to the point series were more willing to accommodate them, but I think it's directly tied to the rocketing rise of conservative values globally that shut the blinds on that development.
No.8396
I hate the people who use the term "biphobia" when they want to complain about people not shipping their het ship or for calling their husbando gay. It's always either a yume or someone with a het ship who's really mad they can't force fujos to see the het ship as "canon". Or dumb Hoyo fans who see the mc pandering as "coding" the character as bisexual. Yeah right, go ask any incel neckbeard if he actually thinks that Firefly is "bisexual".