No.10248
>>10246Is it just me or could you genuinely argue she's being xenophobic here? The way she's demonising an entire genre of comics made predominantly by japanese women.
No.10250
>>10209Mark is already a bad enough pick.
>>10210From the second line I knew your answer would be youtube. No matter what you search when trying to get an anime OP/ED on there you'll get full latin american dubs, sometimes even full fan ones.
>>10246It has a trans character in the main cast, and the netflix show made sure to hire a trans actress for it. Then the fandom hounded the teenage lead and threatened him until he felt forced to come out of the closet publicly. I'm fortunate that I read the comic by chance before knowing about the author, and was able to enjoy seeing a familiar setting (then it got weirder when they filmed the show somewhere I used to go tons as a kid). The show does a good job of capturing its appeal - just pure fluff romantic giddiness and minor school relationship drama. If you're not easily swayed by that or find it impossible to invest because of the character types/meta then it's not going to be much fun. I have no idea why the audience ended up as bad as it is, but I assume it's because it's so mainstream. I read it because it was in libraries here, and since the netflix show every book shop has multiple versions on their main shelves, not even the comic or YA sections. It's bound to have far more vocal teenage fans than the average western media.
>>10248She is. Specifying only Japanese category terms and calling them bad fetish erotica. She's also a they, so it's alright when
they do it.
No.10251
>>10248A lot of the "BL is fetishizing and gross" narrative has always come off as smugly xenophobic to me. It has this distinctive "those barbaric orientals don't know shit about respecting human rights and only fetishize them for entertainment and sexual gratification unlike us civilized westerners" tone to it, as if gay people didn't exist in Asia or as if Asian authors were unable to feel empathy and a sense of respect when writing these characters.
No.10253
Where is the multilevel marketing BL and why hasn't Fukumoto written it yet?
No.10255
>>10246Is she implying that all yaoi and BL contains sex? As if there weren't a myriad of topics and levels of love and intimacy. What a 'not like the other girls' writing gay male fiction' thing to say.
No.10256
>>10248She is and she's being smug about it. I, Alice Oseman, am so unlike those icky fujos because I'm a she/they and my cutesy fluffy graphic novel about gay highschoolers is totally different and ethical to read because I say so.
>>10252>straight women can't write BL because they are evil fetishizers into gay men, but if a random female author claims to be kweer (aroace in her case) that means she's a-okay! it's safe now that we know the author's pronouns and sexual preferences! this work of fiction would be terrible if the author was into sex with men instead of sex with nobody, oh no No.10257
>>10246it feels like it was made for discourse damaged teens who want to read about boys kissing (normal desire) but saw too many posts about how it's problematic and #fetishizing so they have to settle for the blandest slop imaginable that makes sure you know how unproblematic and above bl labels it is. sad!
No.10258
>>10256lmao its incredible because I feel the complete opposite about straight women writing gay fiction. Their weakest point is the romance because sometimes it does feel a bit girly or whatever. Then again I've never been much into romance and more sex-driven, but do enjoy fluff if I like the characters.
No.10260
>>10259Maybe it's a yume telling other yumes that have her husbando to fuck off? I've heard before that apparently some yumes don't like when another yume has the same husbando as them.
No.10261
>>10259I tried searching what emoji the ship represented without luck because there's too many and specific emoji search doesn't work on twitter. From what I can tell though, even in chinese
>Person likes (sun) as bottom with anyone>Specially (umbrella/sun) unreversible>Doesn't like people yumeing (sun)>Doesn't like people who like (sun) as a top>Doesn't like people who like both bottom (sun) and top (sun) simultaneously,"omnivorous" basically refers to multishippers>I don't know what the last one means but probably that there's not many fixed shippers to begin withTheir bias is probably (sun) and they don't like yumes of him or people not liking him as a bottom.
The chinese is also in a very passive aggresive way of "die if you do (any of the other things mentioned)"
No.10262
>>10261>>10260It's a genshin fujo. Umbrella = Scaramouche and sun = Aether. She's just mad about Scara bottom shippers/headcanons which is a large part of Scara content lol. Tbh putting up warnings in your profile is harmless. She does go an extra mile with the colourful curses but i won't give mind to it unless her entire TL is rt/qrts of fighting other accounts.
No.10266
>>10265>>10265>I wonder what other fandoms are surprising popular in ChinaModern DMC fandom. Also, maybe not entirely chinese, but Orb (チ) is also most popular in Japan but absolutely nowhere in the west. The tag for Orb in ao3 is deserted while japan is thriving with fanworks.
No.10267
>>10265I remember laughing pretty hard when I found out how popular the social network (yes the Jesse Eisenberg movie) was with chinese fujos
No.10268
>>10265There's ~3.5k on ff.net, going back to 2001. Slam Dunk getting big again is funny to me because I exclusively associate it with fujos older than me (and I am mid 30s).
No.10269
>>10265It's probably Taiwan rather than just China. I had a Taiwanese friend as a teen who I met through Prince of Tennis fandom. She showed me that Taiwanese anime stores had SHIT LOADS of sports shounen merch.
>>10267My favorite is always old British comedies. You don't expect Yes Prime Minister yaoi, but you will have it in Mandarin. Similarly there's over 400 fics for Jeeves and Wooster in Russian, and without checking I'm sure they are all homosexual in nature.
No.10270
>>10265>>10268One of my formative shounen. I used to tape the episodes on vhs and replay all the Sakuragi/Rukawa moments over and over again. But later on I preferred Rukawa with Mitsui or Sendoh. And who could forget Kenji and Maki. And Mitsui and Kogure!
I'm sure I also liked the sport for a brief moment lol
No.10271
>>10270>3rd picI guess it's time to give it a serious watch/read this time, unlike my middle school self. I just finished my TeniPuri/ShinTeni rewatch/reread and I'm feeling empty and craving for more spokon but modern ones don't hit me the same.
If anons have other pre-2005 spokon reccs I'm all ears!
No.10272
>>10271Its been long years and tbh there wasnt much about him. Back then the most fanservice youd get was Hanamichi throwing the ball at Rukawas butt. But I remembered that pic well lol
No.10273
>>10272>There wasn't much of himI see. Do you mean he doesn't appear that much in the series or he just doesn't get fanart/fics?
If it's the later I don't mind, I find Rukawa cute too.
As for there being fujobait, I also don't care. As long as the dudes are attractive (to my eyes) and have interesting dynamics I'll find a way.
No.10275
>>10273>>10274I love all the characters and the humor from the series so far, Rukawa's really cute. I'm glad I'm able to read such a classic ♥
No.10279
>>10278Unironically this game would be much better if it was two brothers instead.
No.10280
>>10278I also clocked the creator as a woman when I first saw a YouTuber play it and was surprised to see so many people think the creator was a guy.
>>10279I would’ve been way more invested in the game if they were brothers.
No.10282
>>10279Never cared about this game but I agree I would have changed my stance and be interested if it had been between brothers
No.10285
>>10273Yeah they do have good dynamics between the guys and there are barely any female love interests so the fujobait wasn't all that necessary back then. Just good all around fun and rivalries between the guys that always made you want for more.
As far as Kenji, yeah he didn't get much airtime but he was memorable to me either way. I didn't have access to much beside sites hosted in geocities and newsgroups so I wonder how much fanart he has.
No.10287
>>10284>>10286Oh, well somehow the design and premise still doesn't appeal to me despite liking brocon stuff. Too bad the author made an improved version with the M/F pair.
No.10288
>>10283The biggest clue was definitely that Andrew is Japanese self-insert cute but the game is very obviously western. A western male dev would've made Andrew ugly due to artstyle or a femboy. And a TIM would've made them both girls or one of them a futa. And if a TIF made it, there'd be gender nonsense mixed in.
No.10290
>>10283Pretty sure bottom right is actually unironically a braindamaged retard.
No.10293
How stupid would it be trying to commission someone that isn't in your native language? There's a small Korean artist I'm following that makes fanart of my fav manga and they recently opened their comms. I want to support them but I'm anxious that the machine translation like DeepL will get something wrong. Should I just say fuck it and hope for the best; look for other alternatives in terms of translation; or just shut down the idea all together?
No.10294
>>10293If it's on skeb you shouldn't have any issues their translator is decent. I guess it would depend how specific you want to be, if you just mainly care about getting them to draw a specific character it shouldn't be an issue.
No.10295
>>10293>koreanpapago is supposedly better for KR-EN translations. you can put the translated KR text and original EN text together. if they're confused they can translate on their own too.
No.10296
>>10278I remember watching people argue about it on another site, and it was fairly obvious she was a woman. Even looking at the VNs she made before that, she'd made several fujo-adjacent games. I have zero interest in the game, and I think it's cringe, but I'm not sure why people thought she couldn't be a woman.
No.10297
LC is down. Hopefully what happened last time doesn’t happen this time.
No.10300
There's no thread for dreams?
I had a dream of an old famicom JRPG with yaoi story. The uke was a hero on a journey to defeat the evil seme. It was early yaoi type story where the seme rapes the uke who secretly likes it. The seme had long blue hair and dressed like JRPG character from that era with huge shoulder pads and a cape. You went through some cave dungeon and the seme appeared to taunt the uke along the way. they released a remake of it and I watched some dude moralfag about it on youtube and thought I gotta play it, so I downloaded the original. Woke up and was a bit disappointed it doesn't actually exist.
No.10301
>>10300>There's no thread for dreams?You could make one!
>old famicom JRPG with yaoi storyI wish there were more BL JRPGs. I'd even be satisfied with RPG Maker games…
No.10302
>>10300And now I'm disappointed that it doesn't exist either. Why did you do this, nonnaaaa
Maybe learn to make games or something!