No.642
>>640Fuck yeah! I love SOT so much, but it is a pretty easy game, isn't it? All weapons with fire and/or gross out on them will obliterate any enemy in your path, it's genuinely busted.
Walking around the town is my favorite part of both SOT and FBW. There are so many callbacks to the show in the side quests and easter eggs, and it honestly just warms my heart. Both games are fucking packed with passion. Like
>>641 said, Matt and Trey worked on them both, and they made damn sure that they'd be good experiences for fans of the show.
Literally everything you brought up in your post is expanded and improved on in FBW. More exploration, less two-dimensional combat, balanced difficulty, etc… so please look forward to it!
No.644
>>643He's so cute! Shame at being basically regulated to a background character in later seasons.
I recognize that the showrunners feel that his dying ran it's course and is a tired joke, but I love it when it's used more seriously like the Cthulhu episodes.
No.650
>>643Based anon! Kenny's just the best, such a silly and cute sweetheart. I wanna ruffle his hair.
>>644Right? He's always been a pretty quiet character, never got the spotlight much, but good god they are neglecting him
horribly as of late. I admit that I like the OMGTKK jokes, but I definitely understand why they're almost never made anymore. Gets old quickly. The thing is though, Kenny is so much more than "the poor kid who dies a lot", and I feel like a lot of people don't realize the potential he has.
No.656
>>650South park as of the last few years just feels like wasted potential in general, they could do so much crazier shit with the premises and characters they have and they just never choose to.
It feels like they're forcing themselves to just write weed and talk about current events instead of making something funny.
No.657
>>656Yeah, wasn't a fan of the overarching story stuff in the first place and the weed farm stuff is unbearable. I'm not opposed to moving Stan away from the main town, friends drifting apart due to circumstance is natural, but I just don't find weed funny or interesting.
At least Token got more development out of it?
No.658
>>656Yeah. The show's always been a bit preachy, but now that's pretty much all it is anymore. Just the topic of the week. I miss when we got episodes that were just about the boys going on wacky and ridiculous adventures.
>>657>At least Token got more development out of it?He's probably the most "normal" kid in the entire show, and I love him for that. His friendship with Stan is very cute too, I want to see more of it.
No.663
>>658Even when it was topic of the week you could tell it was topics they actually cared about or at least could make some very fun jokes about.
Now it has to include weed somehow or drag on for a season/special. It tends to feel like it's their first draft too.
No.679
>>678It's even funnier how popular their ship got, considering they don't even interact outside of briefly mentioning each other. The fanart is really cute and nostalgic though, so I'm not complaining.
Also, Christophe's edgelord moe is unmatched. Fly high, little bastard.
No.681
>>680k2 is so cute<3<3<3<3
No.692
>>690Agree with all of these. Also hoping for some more Ike content, he's seriously one of the best characters in the show.
>Comic convention episode?This could be awesome. It's a bit specific though, so I'm curious as to why exactly you want it. Just a random thought that crossed your mind one day?
No.693
>>692>IkeIke is a great character and could use more screentime, seconding.
I think a convention-themed episode has a lot of potential because not only is it timely, but since the boys already have superhero personas I think there is stuff you can do there. Especially with Kenny and Cartman.
No.708
>>707MintBerry is adorable and I'd love to seem him come back, especially if Cthulu is here too. That reveal at the end was hilarious and he could use more speaking roles.
SP has such an assortment of one-off or incredibly minor characters who could easily sustain a few more episodes,
No.709
>>708>damien and pipWords cannot express how much these two mean to me. Dip was my first ever OTP, and I was obsessed with Pip during my early years in the SP fandom. So many memories…
I love them, I miss them, and the fact that they're never going to come back breaks my heart. My headcanon is that they're together in Hell hanging out, drinking tea, and being dumb.
No.710
>>709I ship them too! They have a cute dynamic in school and while it's sad Pip was killed off so soon it just gives even more reason ship them imo. I'm sure he and Damien are hanging out in hell.
>the fact that they're never going to come back breaks my heartI'm still holding out hope that someday we'll have another episode set in hell where they'll at the very least cameo.
No.711
>>710Enlightened Dip enjoyer!
>while it's sad Pip was killed off so soon it just gives even more reason ship them imo. I'm sure he and Damien are hanging out in hell.This is exactly it. Pip always tries to stay positive during even the most horrible situations (which is how he died in the first place), so I like to imagine that the first thing he thought of when he woke up surrounded by hellfire was something along the lines of "perhaps I'll run into that Damien boy again!"
>I'm still holding out hope that someday we'll have another episode set in hell where they'll at the very least cameo.I have to admit, while I've accepted the fact that it just is not going to happen, I still can't help but pray for Dip to come back. Even now, it's like… they're bringing back Cthulu for S26, so a crumb of Damien and/or Pip content isn't
completely off the table of possibilities. But at the same time, I know for a fact it isn't going to happen. I just can't help but miss my boys and crave content.
No.1003
Can anyone rec me some good butters/anyone fics?I'll even take buttman, i just want it to be cute [spoiler]and porny maybe[/spoiler]
No.1080
>>1079I want to believe the conspiracy theory that they're making it shit on purpose because of Comedy Central or they don't have much control on south park as much as they'd like us to believe and that they're just still on the show to stop things from being worse (imagine all boys as gendies canon type of thing). But this is just me huffing copium, the chance is it was never just them both doing everything and they had plenty of back and forth and collaboration in the writing room and since it's just them now (there's rumors they don't let other writers collaborate anymore and only help out) it'll never be as good.
Matt and Trey talk about skipping election season in order to not talk about Trump and instead write the kids going on wacky silly adventures, but what's stopping them from just doing that?
I would prefer the show being downright bad instead of the boring that it is, it being outright bad and OOC would atleast be funny and easily dismissed, at the state it is I still have some hope it could get better someday.
No.1081
>>1080That first image is so true lol.I went from being indifferent to Randy to dreading his appearances.
>I want to believe the conspiracy theory that they're making it shit on purpose because of Comedy CentralGod, I wish. I know this probably isn't the case, but it gives me such false hope that the show might get better again. I also keep thinking, "oh, if they're taking this long to come up with new stuff, it must be so that they don't put out subpar work," but I know it's probably going to be more of the same.
>instead write the kids going on wacky silly adventures, but what's stopping them from just doing that?Exactly!! Even when they'd make social commentary episodes in older seasons, it was never the entire show (and in my opinion, the political episodes weren't as fun as the more casual/slice-of-life episodes, anyways). Why is it any different now? I don't get why they "have" to talk about anything at all. I've always been more attached to the earlier seasons (I'm talking like seasons 4-7 were the best to me- I know that's not an unpopular opinion), and it seems like there was less commentary back in the older episodes. Or, at least, the episodes I liked the most weren't entirely focused on specific current events, or did them in a creative way (I hope I'm making sense; I'm comparing it to, like, Season 20). For me, the appeal of the show has always been the wacky and silly adventure episodes, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. I don't think coverage of the election would be missed at all.
Again, I don't think the show is the absolute worst thing airing right now, but I could see it becoming unwatchable in the future, and that makes me sad. I wouldn't even mind the long waits and short seasons if they were fun.
No.1082
>>1081Yep, Tegridy is the worst offender of modern sp being shit. I wouldn't mind more adult-focused B-plots or segments (early south park had lots of those), the problem is that modern sp adults just aren't funny anymore. Think about a Liane plot in early seasons, like her trying to get 40th trimester abortion legalized vs modern Liane.
>Even when they'd make social commentary episodes in older seasons, it was never the entire showHard agree, the political situation at the time or current happenings were just an excuse or an inspiration to create a funny plot, not the whole plot, nowadays they just go "Look current thing!" and then say nothing about it. You can watch an old episode and have 0 context for the pop culture or happenings at the time and it'll still be funny, as an example you don't need to know shit about KONY 2012 to enjoy the bullying episode.
I think the reason they focus so hard on "having to talk about current issues" is because of their reputation + normies on social media, think about how when something funny in politics happens the normies just go "man I can't wait until SP parodies this!" "this is out of a south park episode" etc etc… So they're not doing it out of passion but obligation, which ends up with lame ass takes and unfunny jokes for normies to post on social media like "MAN THEY TOTALLY OWNED THE WOKES" or "CONSERVATIVES DESTROYED".
Also they said it just takes more effort to make kids doing wacky shit episodes compared to the politics ones. But then again, when they tried to do kids doing wacky shit episodes in new sp (think of the paintball episode) it's also kinda lame and shell of it's former self. At this rate fans have funnier ideas than the show, I think I'll stick to the funny fics and fancomics for my dose of south park wackyness.
No.1087
>>1086Speaking of disliking recent stuff in the main show. I'd kill for a few more slightly more serious Kyle/Cartman moments. I love these two and think there is a more serious drama between them brewing underneath the series. We were scratching at it in the mid-seasons but its seems to have left sometime around the election arc.
They are by far the most compelling characters narratively but even taking off the shipping lens if you are going to focus on stories or try to have a semi-serious overarching plot I don't understand why you aren't using the characters who've been proven to be able to carry the show and are flexible. There are so many students who have only appeared in a few episodes or are used mainly for crowdshots that you could mine for more plots if needed. Bebe, Clyde, Dogshit, to name a few
For a newer season I think as long as Randy and Tegridy aren't onscreen I'll be happy. Make it the most uninspired season yet but have Randy off in the void and I think it'd be best they've had in years. Adults like Jimbo, Liane, Stan's grandpa, ect can all carry episodes just fine if they are insisting on focusing on the older characters. I've personally never found Randy all that funny and my opinion has only soured over the years.
No.1088
>>1087>I'd kill for a few more slightly more serious Kyle/Cartman moments.Me, too. Like you said, their dynamic (even without the shipping goggles) is easily one of the most entertaining parts of the show. I know it's a little silly for me to be talking about character depth in South Park, but I also think they have more depth to them, which means that there's more to explore in regard to their relationship (not even talking about shipping- I just mean in regard to how they normally interact). They don't feel as one-note as Randy or something because there is such a diversity to the interactions we've seen between them and the roles they take in particular episodes. I can think of episodes where Cartman brings out the worst in Kyle, where Kyle fucks up because of his pride, where the two actually get along to work toward a common goal, where Kyle's the more reasonable one, etc. Yet, all of these episodes make sense because they're not entirely flat characters. Their episodes together work SO WELL because they have the right amount of balance for each other; they have enough similarities, but also contrast, that it doesn't get tiresome. There's basically a built-in conflict when Cartman and Kyle are the center of a particular episode, so it makes no sense not to capitalize on that.
>Adults like Jimbo, Liane, Stan's grandpa, ect can all carry episodes just fine if they are insisting on focusing on the older characters.I'll never understand why Randy became the default adult when I never found him especially likable in the first place. I used to think he was okay, but he's just so grating and one-note that I can't tolerate him anymore. So many of the other adults are so much more entertaining, and don't get as much attention as they used to. A lot of episodes I love (Toilet Paper, Chickenlover, Volcano, Cartmanland, Le Petite Tourette… I could go on) didn't feature Randy much at all, and had other adults in prominent roles. Officer Barbrady is my favorite adult from the show, and we all know how relevant he's been as of late lol. I'm also partial to Jimbo, Mr. Mackey, and Kenny's parents, and they have so much potential for more focus. You also mentioned some of the other kids getting focus, and I agree. Butters didn't start out being nearly as important as he is now; it's actually kind of funny to go back and watch the movie, where he barely even speaks, and compare it to how prominent he is in later seasons. That would've never happened if he hadn't been given an opportunity to be in the limelight, and I think it's the same for other side characters.
>I've personally never found Randy all that funny and my opinion has only soured over the years.I know I already said this in my post, but I 100% agree. I don't know if he was always that insufferable, and I could just handle him better in small doses, or if he's gotten worse.
No.1239
>>1238While my preference is the boys I'll take literally any adult besides Randy he has never been my favorite and it doesn't even feel like they are setting him up for anything it's just the same "dude weed" jokes.
>I downloaded the other seasons so I'll just rewatch those.Where do you think the show peaked? Personally I think 4-10 is the best run.
No.1240
>>1239Yeah I don't even mind the Mr. Garrison and PC Principal episodes, they can be funny at times. Randy just seems like a lame stand-in for the middle aged male viewers, which is my issue.
>Where do you think the show peaked? Agree with your assessment. I enjoyed a lot of episodes from 10-15 as well. Everything past season 20 is definitely irredeemable though, maybe Matt and Trey are just out of it because they're family guys now. There's supposed to be more stuff coming out in the second half of 2025 but I don't have high expectations for them, apparently one heavily involves Kendrick Lamar.