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A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.


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 No.12715[Reply]

Previous thread:
>>10865

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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 No.13022

>>13013
lots of gays find vaginas disgusting, isn't it homophobic to draw gays fuck vaginas?

 No.13023

>>13014
The funny thing is I never called vaginas disgusting at all, I only said cuntboy is disgusting.

 No.13024

>>13022
Not if the "vagina-owner" identifies as a man, then the gay is "transphobic" for not wanting pussy
>>13023
Lol, that makes their anger funnier to me



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 No.11228[Reply]

As a counterpart to the hate thread, sperg about things you love.

Old thread >>13
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 No.12998

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>Sebastian Michaelis >Dante and Vergil
>Alastor >Tanjiro
So many demon popular characters, where are the angels? does anyone know angel anime boys?

 No.13002

>>12998
>Tanjiro
I have to be pedantic but he's not a demon. He got close to it for a hot second but his imouto is the main demon. The series definitely has a lot of quality demons boys though (but they're oni, not biblical demons)
To answer your actual question though, I'll try to list all the angel boys I know.
>Ryo
>The slut bros & angel ojisan from the new Panty & Stocking season
>Limone from Wedding Peach
>The anime only angel guy/girl from S1 of Kuroshitsuji
>Michel from Mermaid Melody (not technically an angel but has aesthetic of one)
There are probably more from other Mahou Shoujo that I'm missing. And if you're counting Hazbin Hotel as anime then you might as well also count Pit.

 No.13016

>>12998
If having wings and the themes are enough, there's Tales of Symphonia's Zelos, Kratos, Yuan, and Mithos, and then CCS's Yue and Escaflowne's Van.

I can also think of a number of Gran Blue Characters, D.N.Angel's Dark and Krad, and the casts of both Saint Beast and Angel Sanctuary.



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 No.9438[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What are some unpopular opinions you have as a fujoshi?
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>>13000
>>13003
We all have a little bit of crazy in ourselves. So what? It doesn't hurt anyone if I love spending on and owning my favourite things. I contribute to the economy, raise demand for more BL production and make myself very happy. Look at how handsome Sebastian is on the cover!

 No.13008

>>13005
Slow Damage and Sweet pool notoriously so (Probably the same translator).

 No.13009

>>12980
There are plenty of reasons why I think piracy for something like BL makes perfect sense but for the love of god I don't care if you're poor or the manga you want to read is out of print just SHUT THE FUCK UP about reading them illegally. Keep that shit to yourself, don't make it worse for everyone and don't cry if your favorite manga or webtoon artists start insulting you online for posting their entire series for free or for reposting fan translated pages on twitter and tagging them. All you manage to do that way is disrespecting everyone, the original artists, the fans who have no choice but to rely on piracy until they can get their hands on legit copies and risk seeing these websites shut down, and foreign fans who buy original or translated legit copies and who could be confused as relying on piracy by a fed up artist. Plenty of websites for manga and anime shut down these past few years and I still see retarded zoomers on social media advertising the few ones left instead of shutting the fuck up like we all agreed to do 15 years ago, fuck them. I lended my books to friends so they could read them for free without using a screen as well, that's a fun way to recommend each other new BL manga.

Personally, I'm not a poorfag anymore thank god, and plenty of BL manga have been published in my country and often uncensored so I stopped reading BL manga online for a while now and have bought a lot of BL manga instead. But I already knew several of them thanks to fan translations online so piracy served as free advertisement here. However I've been buying a few of them blind as well lately. I'll never judge anyone pirating unless I know more about them, it took me time to start building my collection because of money issues. As for doujinshi I went to events in Japan and bought some stuff I enjoyed in Mandarake as well but I hate the fandoms for these so much I strictly refuse to scan and share my doujinshi. These fans can get fucked and keep reading the same americanized omegaverse coffe shop mafia AU fanfics with retarded OOC dialogues on AO3 in the meantime.



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 No.9888[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Ah shit, I hate when I reply to a thread that is past bump limit.
Shit you Hate 3.0, post stuff that makes you unreasonable enraged.

Prior thread >>4907
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 No.12954

>>12953
I already shit on men in women’s forums don’t worry.

 No.12955

>>12954
Women who disagree with you aren't men nonnie.

 No.12956

>>12955
This whole thing started because some people here couldn’t handle it when gay men got shat on.



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A few hours ago, Aniwave (9anime) and Anix were shut down, it seems like it was hit by a DMCA claim. These were big sites that hosted thousands of different animes. Companies seem to be going hard against piracy sites and it makes me wonder if they'll go for manga next.
Do you use piracy or do you prefer paid services? Do you think the potential death of easily accessible piracy will be a big issue? Is the solution teaching others to torrent?

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/ace-goes-after-fmovies-sister-site-successors-240824/
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>>11960
I don't even know why I bother living anymore.

 No.12939

What is your preferred site for downloading translated BL doujin?

 No.12983

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Reminder: Physical mangas and CDs



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 No.904[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

irrational hatred against astolfo, femboys and femboy culture and how the majority of people think it aligns with yaoi
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 No.12924

>>12922
They sure as hell didn't understand the themes of Chobits though

 No.12925

>>12922
Everyone on earth knows g fantasy is only a shonen mag in name kek, and nothing by CLAMP is for men. Everything else you listed is general audience by any standard. Trapshit however is not gen audience, it’s moidslop that lives alongside ecchi harem and the like.

 No.12926

There's always been trapshit for both men and women, its pretty silly to make a fuss about women being into it considering how much bl/gacha/game has crossdressing content.



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 No.541[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Aydens are currently the biggest internal cancer in BL spaces, outsiders hate us that's a given but Aydens participate and "contribute" to our fandoms, with pussyboys, male characters with mastectomy scars and PIV sex between characters that are biological males and ruin it
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>>12362
>boys run the riot tranny shit
wut
>picrel
so literally het?

 No.12364

>>12363
Yes and no, I just checked a few pages of the first volumes in a store long ago and the MC thinks that just because she's a lesbian and she's a tomboy that means she's a brave and stunning transboi.

 No.12816

I hate he/theys so fucking much. Everyone fucking knows you are a fucking woman you fucking moron. No one's going to take part in this retarded LARP with you so you can pretend to have Higher Yaoi Gay Man Knowledge because you cut your hair above your shoulders and wore a baggy shirt.



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 No.5538[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Self-inserting has always been a thing, however, more than ever has it not taken in an almost parasitic and viral infestation in general fandom and the BL scene.

Whether it's the need to make gay ships het by adding a vagina/transing, or blatantly stating they see non-insert ships as cucking, let's talk about self-inserting and how bad it's gotten.
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 No.12811

>>12797
I like the idea of a failed-at-redemption Durge. Particularly with Ascended Astarion. All these collared elf girl Durges get the ascension dynamic completely wrong.

Think about it like this. Durge lands on the beach and has no memories, no idea of right and wrong but for his own urges. Then he meets Astarion and is immediately taken. A walking, unbreathing corpse with a beautiful face, cold skin, and still heartbeat. As they get closer, they bond over their shared bloodlust, two people who have never been mutually understood before and who accept eachothers true natures, and it's never a problem until Durge *almost* kills Astarion that night. And Astarion isn't even mad. Astarion comforts *him.* So now he doesn't want to be a threat to him anymore, so he does try to change.

And this works, up until the ascension. Immortality, power, no longer an animal of prey but able to protect himself— it seems like a good deal, until they talk after. My favourite line from Astarion in this scene is "I love you. Isn't that what you were waiting to hear?"
It is, in essence, and admission that he never loved Durge at all. All those close moments, the mutual understanding, it was all fake. A successful manipulation to make the overpowered dangerous lunatic keep him safe and do his dirty work for him. This betrayal would hit extra hard if Durge already left Bhaal, as he essentially gave up and betrayed everything he ever was for a lie.

But despite the hurt and the anger, Durge has always excelled at planning. He wants revenge. He hates him down to the bottom of his soul, but he can't kick his obsession. So he plays the long game. Accept the gift of vampirism, its essentially free immortality. Play pretend at beloved pet. And then at the end, when they're at the brain, Durge sees his chance.

Astarion may have control as his Master, but with control of the mind worms, Durge is faster. Durge makes the aware but helpless Astarion allow him to drink his blood, no longer a spawn. Astarion, after briefly glimpsing freedom and power and safety, is a slave again to a worse master. This gets rubbed in too.
So much arrogance, so much bragging, but deep inside Astarion was still deeply incapable because deep down, he's a helpless idiot who needs to rely on others. Everything he thought he achieved himself was just gift wrapped and given to him Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.12813

>>12811
Astarion is a punching bag. No matter the ship (excluding bloodweave) I always see Astarion as a weakling. He can get physical strength and power, but mentally he is always going to be miserable. But he'll be able to cope with somebody yanking his chain. Durge however, is naturally dominant no matter the context. Even if you remove their urges, they're still controlling and take charge over everything. But I think elf girl users are not even reading the game's dialogue but seeing sexy, slightly bloody bondage kitten who will give up control for the one that they love (mischaracterize).

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>>12813
Even in his happy ending where you're in a totally healthy relationship with spawn Astarion, he still needs your validation that you're not going to run off on him. Add onto that three hundred years of servitude with no personal autonomy and a fawn response towards danger, despite his intense desire for freedom he would be unbelievably easy to manipulate.
Even with a happy redeemed Durge/spawn Astarion ending, it is so obvious where the power gap lays.

Sadistic genius demi-god who is used to being worshipped and seeing people as toys vs deeply insecure ex-sex slave who spent the past ten years with no free will, having his entire personhood denied. I bet the post-game relationship drama is delicious.

It's just too bad most Durge/Astarion content is cute purple elf girls in collars. If anyone ever finds any fics that ACTUALLY nail their dynamic, I would love to see it.



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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.12721

>>12719
>when I do like a gacha ship/character the bloated cast makes it so that there’s never enough focus or detail on my faves so I can never call it “good food”.
Yeah, waiting years for new story development that is not even guaranteed to happen is tough but sometimes it does come and feels very rewarding, if the game is played causally than waiting don't feel too bad.
I have a backlog of anime that I'm slowly getting though but I feel like I watched most older stuff that is instantly appealing to me in my first 10 years of obsessively watching anime, now I'm just getting a bite here and there.
I really want more anime originals… Good ones…

 No.12722

>>12712
yoi was popular in Japan too lol. also I know you’re mainly talking about lasting popularity but popularity is always relative. you name undertale as an example but there are a surprising amount of people who have never even heard of it yet of course know about mario or donkey kong. this of course doesn’t mean that undertale isn’t popular. you have to take niches and audience categories (age, sex, country) in account.

 No.12763

>>12700
Especially Hoyoverse. But the problem is there's no new anime that fills that long running speculative niche for fujos anymore. I get wanting to be into something ongoing and popular since it's an easy way to find people, and getting into an older show means you'll have less people to talk to.
The reason I hate Hoyoverse is because they treat fujos like shit and only give the barest of crumbs because they know fujos don't need much, while they prioritize their incel audience. Gacha games are so bad now that the bare minimum Hoyoverse does is considered a lot, and they don't even know about the better yaoi dyanmics in other games since those games are either gatekept to Japan or admittedly have shit gameplay that won't pull new players. But I hate Hoyoverse because they play it so safe with all their characters that it's hard for me to like them. The ships also stagnate into one or two simple tropes because Hoyoverse sucks at developing their male characters. It's all potential and hype but they never deliver on any of it. I'm not expecting their games to be edgy and depressing, I'm not a grimdarkfag. My favorite type of anime are spokons where the power of friendship and teamwork win out. But even those ordinary characters and their conflicts felt more interesting than anything Hoyoverse makes. I dunno. I feel like it's a case of people sticking to only what they know which is the more popular shit and everyone just likes basic simple junk food tropes because most media doesn't have the time or space to develop complex dynamics anymore. It all feels like a corporate suit looking at popular tropes than actually trying to write dynamic characters first and then the shipping naturally emerges from that.



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