No.12715[View All]
Previous thread:
>>10865Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
No.13471
>>13469It just looks off to me, there are some things that are common in BL that are anatomically wrong but idgaf since they don't look that off-putting but people putting the anus at the same area of the crotch where a vag would be and even make it () instead of o is just gross to look at it looks like there's a hole in the ball sack.
No.13472
>>13469I get what you're saying
Personally I'm a sucker for artists that nail the balance between idealism and actual anatomy, it helps ground the idea of what the boys are doing and feeling imo
I imagine it can start looking legitimately grotesque for some fujos when a butthole is coming out of the tailbone or whatever, uncanny valley blah blah blah
No.13473
>>13462It totally does, depending on the guy's sensitivity and how it's touched. A guy friend of mine got super embarrassed when a doctor pressed it with two fingers and his dick twitched. Vented to me about it like he'd be laughed at if his male friends knew how easy it was. He says the skin is like armpit skin so I've always wondered how bad is it if you tickle there, like the friction's different on the soft skin around moving parts. You could always bullshit an uke being especially sensitive and ashamed
and worried he might piss a little from the jolts.Even knowing it does something, I have some mild erogenous point at the back end of my vulva/labia so the idea that it feels good to stroke a finger down the underside of the balls and along the taint makes monkey brain logic to me when reading so I like to see it used for teasing or additional stimulation. Even as simple as uke sitting on the seme's lap and feeling a pressure against it.
>>13464Was it the NOTP thread you used before? I try not to talk back on anything in that one because the theme of the thread is what it says. Scary shit if people are tracking you down on other sites for what you say here.
>>13469You can draw them as pretty and clean as you like, and if real life comparisons still bother you, consider that playing with nerves in those areas can be an excuse to avoid putting fingers up the ass. There's a world of side play that doesn't involve penetration and that vulnerable little zone is good fodder for it. To me it's gross to think the guy could be shitting on his balls without the gap and some of the sex poses get weird if the seme has to get further between the legs to put it in.
No.13476
>>13474I 100% agree with you, didn't ship them back in the day but on my rewatch I was shocked by how much chemistry the two had. The fact that Zukka is more popular on Ao3 when they barely interact is wild.
No.13477
>>13474>>13475if Aang wasn't a bald 12yo, I would be down
No.13478
>>13474To be really fair, Aang's design is very unattractive. He's not just bald, but he's also ugly. And he has a ratty bratty personality that turns a lot of people off. His age is also a factor but Aang in general has a lot going against him in terms of shipability.
No.13480
>>13478I'm not going to say you're wrong, but my hot take I guess is not every character has to be attractive for shipping purposes they just need to be interesting and have a good relationship with the other character. This notion is how you get the blandest ships because it's just the two characters people want to fuck together.
I also don't think Aang is bratty, ATLA is really well written and all the characters grow and develop. He's a bit annoying at the beginning, sure, but if you're far enough along in the series where Zutara is a viable ship then you're far enough along to where Aang has matured.
No.13481
>>13480Nta but I also agree that Aang isn't really bratty, I'd say that Toph kinda is? Maybe even Sokka to an extent? Aang's more carefree, playful, and relaxed, and when he does act out it's in a situation where everyone's sick of each other or when he's lost something really important to him.
No.13483
>>13480Bratty in the sense of his entitlement for Katara. Overall Aang has good development but he has moments where he wants to eat his cake too and will not compromise.
No.13486
Need more incest but censorship has made it so hard to find a damn thing anywhere outside of AO3 and twitter.
Incest, the word, is blocked on tumblr.
no chance on tiktok.
And despite the freedom on twitter by comparison, you generally get results from antis. I want to see more fanart of family fucking and pixiv is not the answer because I don't find myself in Eastern fandoms enough. I know there's an incest thread here but it also isn't the same as finding fans out in the wild with usernames, profiles, and communities for the pairings that I like. Also, a lot of nonnas hate 'ugly' western aesthetics and discussion will never be as big and random as just finding something on socials.
No.13488
>>13483I disagree with you and originally I wasn't going to reply but I want to hide that awful shit in this thread. I don't know, I mean he lets Katara make her own decision with the guy who killed her mom even if he disagreed with it and give her Appa to decide. I think everything else is just childishness? He's most immature during the play but again he misread Katara, he thought a kiss would help clarify her feelings bc it's a romantic gesture. He apologies for pushing. He gets jealous but he doesn't really act out because of it? He just sulks.
No.13489
>>13486If you search up specific kinds of incest like dadson you can find stuff on tumblr. I get your pain it sucks to have unusual tastes when the fandom is scattered and you're likely to get harassed. What fandoms are you into nona?
No.13490
My vent is why do moids not keep their disgusting shit to themselves, this ib is fairly inactive yet they have to shit it up with their bs. Oohhh I'm so edgy I posted CSAM / CSEM to a board about characters butt-fucking each other! Shut the fuck up and go back to your lolishit, ballsack boobs, and BBC NTR faggot.
No.13491
>>13490They're bots that spam 100+ small boards it's not humans posting.
No.13492
>>13491Ty for clarifying tho I'd still am 99% sure males are making those bots. Gross.
No.13494
>>13489Rick and Morty. Rickorty is strong on twitter, but only twitter. Which extends to the other couples of the show all of which are related. I think the only non related ship of the series with any weight is Rick and Bird-person and Mr. Nimbus.
HOTD of course is just the incest show with all the changes HBO writers have done, but again it's just a twitter thing.
My other fandoms are more niche and I don't want to get outed, but I've been searching through call-out posts by terminally online 14 year olds for people to follow because it's the only way I can find people that do not tag. Which is funny but, it can work.
No.13495
>>13491on crystal cafe a guy (troon) literally posted poop and a video which i didn't know if it was gore or anything else fucked up but it's not always bots
No.13496
>>13490Unrelated but I'm tired of idiots thinking NTR is on the same level of scat, gore, whathave you and it's the worst thing ever when it's literally just fucking cheating. If you get your panties in a twist just for seeing a character cheat you have issues and it's an extension to the self-insert plague. I love NTR and I wish there was more homo NTR. Lamento having that scene with
Konoe getting raped by Froud while Rai watches awakened something in me forever.
No.13497
>>13496It's just personal taste, no? I can handle a lot of fucked up stuff including gore but absolutely can't stand NTR.
(unless it's just porn that I have no emotional investment in)
No.13498
>>13496If you have a strong OTP then you probably don't want to see one of the characters getting mindbroken into wanting someone else, but if the character getting cucked is someone I don't care about, or part of a NOTP, then I enjoy it.
No.13499
>>13473>A guy friend of mine got super embarrassed when a doctor pressed it with two fingers and his dick twitchedI can't imagine a doctor doing this using two fingers without it being sexual. The embarrassment makes it even hotter.
No.13501
>>13498>>13497>>13496Ntr can be really hot if implemented correctly, the combination of emasculation plus helplessness is really erotic.
The complete lack of netorare/netorase content in bl aside from faceless men stealing feminine boys from their gfs and turning them into traps is so disappointing, it's just a wasted opportunity that more blvns don't contain it as a bad ending as well, other than paradise I haven't come across it at all (and in paradise it's even an ugly old man doing it, even in bl I'm not safe from them).
The way Slow damage kept baiting this sort of twist in Taku's route but never went through with it was such a waste.
No.13555
>>13554Ugh, I know that feeling. How I wish I'd been an adult weeb in 2007 to buy all the djs and anthologies for my OTP, even if it costed me a fortune to import.
No.13556
>>13554>no used copiesWhich shops have you searched? Can you give me the doujin title?
No.13558
>>13554don't give up! my OTP is 30-years-old and i find old doujins through mandarake and suruga-ya
No.13592
I wish fujos would be meaner.
We have incels, het shippers, yumes and himejoshis all shitting on us as "fetishizers" or "misogynists" or "male centered". And so many fujos just take it! We have less than ever in actual popular media, but people seethe over how much work fujos put into fics on AO3 and can't stop shitting on us. You'll never be "one of the good ones".
No.13595
>>13424>because it's "girly" >because it's aimed at young girlsBecause it was utterly mediocre and got too big for its own good. Did it deserve that level of backlash? No. Was misogyny at play here? Yes. Did these books deserve to get adapted on the big screen? Also no. These kinds of indulgent fantasies are not meant to be "mainstream" but the greedy suits that greenlighted the movies for Twilight or Fifty Shades didn't care for it. They put a big target on that shit and turned their audience into lolcows as a result.
No.13597
>>13592>people seethe over how much work fujos put into fics on AO3 and can't stop shitting on usRight? I swear, it's mostly from jealousy. They don't have the drive, the passion, or the talent to write or draw, so they try to browbeat and shame fujos into doing it for them. When I get sad about my rare pair OTP having no content, I don't bitch at other people to make it, I open up a word doc and start typing!
No.13598
>>13501Misery porn is the last thing I'd want to see with a character I actually care about. You've got to be an actual sado/maso or a hater to enjoy or put effort into that.
>>13592The way things are going IRL, everything and everyone are getting dumber and meaner, so you may get your wish soon enough.
No.13600
>>13592>so many fujos just take it!I like to believe it's because most of us have some degree of a life outside of the computer and don't have the time/will to reply to every dipshit. Nobody who gets thoroughly owned by a fujo is going to stop being a crybully, they're just gonna accuse you of being a "grownass woman" beefing with le heckin minors or block and find a new target. Anything you directly say to them is probably being put away in a future cancellation dossier because every one of those demographics is riddled with drama addicts, so you might as well grey rock it. Don't even block, just continue posting like they aren't even there.
Despite the troubled times fujos consistently "win" the fandom war because like
>>13597 says we are the most prolific creators. It sucks being the punching bag but I feel like we are always going to have "control" of Ao3 so I have a hard time being too depressed about it. I have hundreds of hours of quality m/m fanfic in my read history, they have toothless tenderqueer duty fic and male-penned pwp/fetish prose. The sourest grapes.
No.13601
>>13600It can never be understated the no life stalking a minor/18/19/20/21 year old would do borders on genuine mental instability.
You try to stand up for yourself.
Problem.
You try to clear your name.
Problem.
You try to tell someone else who's mutuals with them how you feel.
Problem.
I have been in this situation before. Literally just get blocked and move on.
Anon's completely right, they'll bring up their age like it's the Queen of England's last words. And they'll keep screenshots of your words to cancel you later. The actual way to win is to not engage, keep blocking, and keep creating. Spend enough time outside your computer and all those internet fights genuinely feel like wastes of time. So what if some chronic online teenager thinks I'm a bad person for wanting Itachi and Sasuke to make out. Who the fuck cares. They don't pay my electricity bill.
No.13603
>>13601I saw someone on a discord server some time ago bitch about how she hates Akechi/Joker because a shipper who also drew nsfw art of them groomed her when she was a minor and it was so enlightening. These kids were too terminally online and never got proper education on internet safety so they take it out on us.
No.13605
>>13592we can't be mean because something something we are women something something we like men without objectifying ourselves or other women so we lose the right to be mean if we don't sexualize ourselves and self insert something
No.13606
>>13597>it's mostly from jealousy. They don't have the drive, the passion, or the talent to write or draw, so they try to browbeat and shame fujos into doing it for themyeah because most of their ships are just virtue signaling or gushing over female allyship.
No.13614
>>13601>the no life stalking a minor/18/19/20/21 year old would do borders on genuine mental instabilityI have never personally been attacked but I've been watching it unfold since the Steven Universe+Voltron days and vividly remember the "oh my god these kids are insane" moment that turned me into an OPSEC hermit. Since then I've been in uncomfortably close proximity to landmines going off in other communities and honestly have antis to thank that I am essentially a ghost in my own garden.
No.13617
>>13614>Since then I've been in uncomfortably close proximity to landmines going off in other communities and honestly have antis to thank that I am essentially a ghost in my own garden.I blame a lot of this behavior for the hollow way that fandoms feel nowadays. You can't get close or be casual; you have to be guarded at all times or risk getting endlessly staked by a 19 year old.
No.13618
>>13600The problem isn't just that it's teenagers with no life, it's adults with careers in academia writing essays about how fujos are misogynist. Everyone is against fujos and the mainstream does take notice. Why do you think even the "woke" cartoon indie creators never pander with m/m? Even Japan wants to pander more to Western fans and there's less m/m in anime compared to yuri.
No.13629
>>13604A two year age gap is so nothing. The only time I see people care about such minuscule things is because they want to use it as "ammo" against the rival ship. A lot of moral hand-wringing in fandom nowadays is just another way to invalidate ships one doesn't like and not about actual morals. I can at least respect people who are honest about hating. But yeah anon I completely understand how you feel. The fandom I'm in isn't as mentally ill thankfully but some people do get irked that I ship a 1st year (15y) and a 3rd year (18y) together even though they treat each other as equals. The third year is only 18 because he was born after the cutoff date for Japanese schools. Never knew I was actually shipping an adult and a minor together apparently kek
No.13630
>>13629Nta but yeah it really is, especially when the popular ship in fandom is also "problematic" but people excuse it because it gets their rocks off. It reminds me of Danganronpa where people would hate on you for shipping "blackened" with their victims as if they characters
weren't classmates before that and most of the time were being shipped before that happened/AU as if they weren't in eventuating circumstances… meanwhile the most major ships are the "antag"/MC.
>15 y/o w 18 y/oPeople get sooo weird about this. I'm going to hijack your reply (sorry) to mention GioMis. It is SO retarded how people moralfag about this, people have had to pull up Italy's laws of consent to get idiots to calm down when the real answer is "they're both teenagers". When the JJBA blocklist was going around people would get put on there for shipping that on the same list people were shipping incest. Not that I care what people ship anyways, but the reasoning is SO stupid and that stupid FuGio ship (sorry to the anons who like it I know it has more of a basis in the LN) that they draw all flavorless and make them OOC as if they aren't all mafia members… it's so dumb it's made me hate the latter ship so much, I think it's boring as hell.
No.13632
>>13630>FuGioWTF didn't know that was popular. Why would you ship Fugo with anybody besides Narancia? lol
Honestly don't get moralfagging over such small age gaps with high school aged characters, I think age gap doesn't matter period, but if you're going to throw a fuss at least make it over some dead dove.
No.13636
>>13633I suspect that it's because that generation of fans really lost a distinction between fandom and real life. All of their interactions were/are online, so suddenly a fictional relationship between a fake 15 year old and a fake 18 year old is just as exploitative as a real relationship between a 18 and 15 year old.
No.13638
>>13632Ikr? FugoNara has so much more going for it, but these literally no one else for moralfags to ship with Giorno in the main case. Also in the non-canon LN Giorno sends Fugo on a quest or something to have him prove his loyalty (?) so there's some stuff there but I've heard it's not really in character. And I agree, they should be drugging each other to complacency spy on each other, snitch, etc. They are mafia! Let them act like it.
>>13633Holy shit discourse over 15 & 18 y/os really is common kek I remember that too, tho atp OtaYuri has been accepted people just like to ignore the age gap or age them up. Sigh remnants of a better time…
>>13636Which I get if it was for something like JosuHan (no offense to any shippers here I'm just using it as an example) since it's a 16 y/o & 20 y/o, but 15 & 18 are both still high schoolers, even IRL it's not inherently horrible. I do agree they are very online I just don't understand the cognitive dissonance of them liking problematic ships but drawing the line at an 18 y/o being with anyone younger than them. DMMD pfps telling me I should kms for shipping GioMis and I'm just standing here like. Bro. I feel like a lot of it is groupthink where they just agree with what others say and "attack" so as to not draw attention to the shit they're doing. High school social dynamics recreates but 1000x worse
No.13642
I hate moralfags