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>>10865Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
No.13352
>>13351Gay men also do terrible things. Regardless of sexuality, any man can be vile and disgusting
No.13353
I swear to god we’ve had this exact discussion fifty times. Get new material nonnas.
No.13354
Anyone else having a hard time finding new stuff to fixate on? I can't help but feel a lot of stuff coming out nowadays just doesn't catch my interest. I can't tell if it's because I'm getting older or if most things just kind of suck now.
No.13355
>>13354I'm doing pretty okay tbqh.
I think people focus too much on there already being a major fandom and not enough on actually trying new content with slowly growing fandoms.
No.13356
>>13354I just pick a couple of things and fixate on them for the rest of my life kek.
No.13357
>>13354I come up with my own stuff when I feel this way, it carries me until the next hyperfixation. But yeah I feel this way too, was always picky and it's harder to find stuff that suits my tastes nowadays.
No.13358
>>13354I get you. I personnally go renew some of my old fixations. I guess that's what emotional attachement does to a fujo, especially in the modern scene.
>>13355I do try to connect with newer stuff too, but it just isn't the same.
No.13359
>>13354I'm at a point where I have one major fixation that I've been on for years because I don't feel like I have much time and energy for multiple ones and I don't have a positive opinion on fandom anymore so that also is a factor. A while back I got into Black butler for the first time and it could have become a fixation for me but the current state of the fandom makes me wish I had gotten into it much earlier.
No.13360
>>13359>the current state of the fandomYou're talking about the antis I presume?
No.13361
>>13354I feel this so much. I can’t into gachaslop or the popular new media franchises like hazbin hotel or alien stage. I think it’s an age thing because the characters/stories that appealed to me as a teen don’t have the same draw as an adult.
The average behavior of fans now is also a turn off. When you have adult obligations like job and bills, it makes you not want to hang around them.
No.13362
>>13360Not just them. I tried hanging out with the other side but I couldn't stand them either.
>Omg imagine if Sebastian pissed in Ciel's womb ♥ No.13363
>>13359I'm not into BB but I feel you nonna. I see it Sebaciel art sometimes and 99% of it is glorified lolishit.
No.13364
>>13354Recently broke a decade long streak of no new fixations (what "fixation" means to me compared to just being a fan: I am writing fanfic). Like you I thought it was just because I was getting older (I'm almost 40!) but what it seems to have been was shit just wasn't hitting for whatever reason. I've never considered my standards particularly high but the media I tend to brainrot about (manga/jrpgs) has really been missing the fujo catnip.
I had the luck to have had a couple juggernaut ships I could retreat into when I wanted fandom flavored stuff. I'd try on some of those if you haven't already to see if any of them stick. Sometimes popular things are popular for a reason!
No.13365
>>13362My fandom is like this kek. It's painful.
No.13366
I feel like I have the issue of being too degen for normies but not degen enough for the actual degens and end up fitting in nowhere.
No.13367
>>13366Same. I've played enough BL games that rape and general abusive dynamics aren't a big deal for me but I get grossed out by guro, bestiality and non-semen bodily fluid stuff like piss and lactation.
No.13370
>>13354I have the opposite problem. Whenever my depression gets bad I can't fixate on a single thing, I end up starting and binge reading like six things simultaneously, destroying all my sleep hygiene and leaving my eyes sore all day. It's like a switch flips in my head and I go from unable to sit still and focus to losing hours a session. Dealing with some awful tummy ache because I've been going to bed at 2AM, reading until nearly 6AM, waking up at 9AM, and not eating until 4PM.
Once I'm passed this I'll look at the ships I was foaming from the mouth over and wonder what the fuck I was on.
No.13373
I love, LOVE Japanese BL the most yet Japanese publishers are the ones who are notoriously, horrendously bad at importing the series. They never get translated and take forever to localize, you literally have to either be the BL queen breaking records to get your series translated 7 years past its prime or some bottom of the barrel scrapings whose license is cheap enough for some grifter publishing house to buy. I'm suffering so hard. Korean webtoons are plentiful to the point the market is painfully oversaturated but they're all awful in quality and with Chinese BL you'll have to read ten books worth of convoluted stories only for the couple to barely even kiss. It's no wonder so many weeb fujos just bite the bullet and learn Japanese solely to be able to read untranslated manga. Does anyone know where I can actually find scanlation groups and publishers for new BL manga?
No.13374
>>13373>It's no wonder so many weeb fujos just bite the bullet and learn Japanese solely to be able to read untranslated mangaI started this recently (December) and you'd be surprised how quick you can understand fanart/doujins. It's mostly sex noises and simple statements. Games/manga are more complicated and when I have to stop too much to look up kanji I can't properly enjoy them (but it does help you learn!). I'm kicking myself for not starting sooner. You should start too!
No.13376
>>13373They're terrible at importing anything in general, if we're still making a comparison with Korea there's a reason why kpop is way more widespread and popular than jpop and jrock and why almost nobody gives a fuck about jdramas but at least knows about kdramas. Even participating in all sorts of fan events irl in Japan sucks if you're not Japanese no matter how fluent you are in Japanese. BL manga in my country aren't too bad but publishing companies only focus on very recent successful manga and will just reprint long series like Junjou Romantica or Viewfinder as far as older BL manga are concerned. For anything in between you're better off pirating. Release dates are still crazy though and some volumes are full of typos. Personally I didn't start learning Japanese for this reason but it eventually became useful for BL, I'm far from fluent but knowing a little bit of Japanese helped me read buy and read doujinshi as well as navigate online fujo social media accounts. I don't know how necessary knowing Korean is to fully appreciate Korean pop culture as a whole but honestly if anyone here is passionate about Korean BL you may as well learn Korean even if it's just a little, you never know.
No.13379
>>13378Unfortunately it seems like most people in modern fandom spaces who are very openly into noncon and other "problematic" kinks are also into a billion grotesque fetishes too. I hate how extreme social media has made everything, everyone is either an oversensitive massive prude or has a hard-on for guro loli incest piss rape.
No.13380
>>13379Probably because the hardcore edgy people were never going to try to blend anyway because it's their entire personality while people who like a few darker tropes are more likely to hide that fact in order to keep their heads down.
No.13381
>>13379I fall in the latter camp I honestly dgaf its fiction who cares thats how I think I dont know if it's due to being a chan lurker for a decade or what but I literally dont care I seen way worse shit on the net this doesn't even faze me
No.13382
>>13381At the end of the day I don't care either, but it'd be nice to look for noncon or incest without being bombarded with a billion things I'm not really into
No.13383
>>13378I'm in the same boat. I like certain dark things, but not
incest. You're best bet is probably just finding people who are a bit crazier than you, but tag/label their stuff enough where you can filter out what you don't like. It's what I do at least.
No.13384
>>13373>>13376It was still pretty good when MangaPlanet/Futekiya was still around before Amerifag payment processors have killed it. They had a mix of new, ancient, classic and niche.
No.13388
>>13354I just came here to post this kek. I want to get into something new that has fanfic that's at least readable and not by teenagers, but it's hard because I don't like most live action. No new anime looks good for Bl shipping. There's older stuff, but I'm either tired of the fandoms or they don't really exist anymore. It's hard when everyone is on shitter and the site is even more broken and barely shows older tweets now.
>>13364Most media has gotten a lot less fujo friendly, especially anime. Even jrpgs don't have the fujo sauce unless they're remakes of old games. The most consistent fandom for fujos is Genshin Impact but I hate the writing of Genshin characters.
No.13389
>>13376Replying to myself just to say, Taifu, a French BL publishing company, just announced several of their series will run out of print. I curse this publishing company everyday because they suck ass in general but they're going to discontinue The Night Beyond the Tricornered Window if that's not already the case. I only have the first volume which I directly bought from them during a convention, and I can't read it online no matter how many times I try because the English translation was really off putting, so I guess it's time for me to buy all the volumes before it's too late. However, I went to a yaoi/yuri convention last year and found one of their discontinued BL manga directly in their booth, so fingers crossed I can find what I want this weekend. I wanted to spend that money on another manga but it's Slam Dunk, I know I can buy volumes for that one anytime.
They mentionned online that some of the manga they listed are already out of print, but I think it's just a reference to the atrocious way they handled Go for it Nakamura long ago and how the series is now handled by a separate Japanese publishing company so their contract doesn't matter anymore anyway (for French anons, they also implied another publishing company will translate, print and sell the series soon).
No.13401
The more I see yumes in gacha spaces shitting on fujos and being happy all the Chinese games don't have any BL bait, the more I dislike yumes. People are always telling us to unite but every single "female space" with yumes shits on fujos, from the joseimuke board on 4chan to lc to twitter. We have the least when it comes to media but people think fujos are eating good because of ao3 where most of the fics are for live action shows.
No.13402
>>13401Whenever I see yumes shitting on fujos, I just consider them yumes version of shit tenderqueer TIFs sjws antis. "Joining with yumes" only means joining with good, proship yumes against the retarded parts of us both. Yumes went through years of being told their shit was problematic and sexist by sjw and tenderqueer types, if they want to laugh at our schadenfreude at being called 'fetishists', I can't really blame them.
No.13403
>>13402>Yumes went through years of being told their shit was problematic and sexist by sjw and tenderqueer typesNTA but fujos have literally gone through the same, if not worse.
No.13404
>>13403Seconding this. The worst yumes ever got was being called cringe and accused of writing Mary Sues. Outside of Snapewives none of them were ever documented or dogpiled with the public scorn of an average fujo, especially now that so many normie women are online to defend it.
No.13405
>>13403>>13404There was the entire mainstream sjw moralfag backlash against Twilight and against romcoms in general, calling them problematic, sexist, heteronormative, rape culture, evil. Het romance has been targeted by the 'problematic' police for ages and ages and ages, in mainstream culture and thinkpieces. The hatred against women because we like romance starts with het.
Fujos got backlash and harassment from homophobes before, but you know that's different. The leftist moralfag "problematic police" backlash is new and is what the yume self-insert otome NL het enjoyers whatever you wanna call them have gone through for ages.
No.13406
>>13405I get what you mean because even now it seems like the romantasy genre and other popular books for women like Icebreaker are being treated similar to how Twilight was back then. "Haha look at these disgusting porn books for cringy women." It just sucks when yumes don't realise this and they shit on us either for pickme reasons or because they don't want us homoing their husbando.
No.13407
>get back into a childhood boomer anime
>check the fandom
>4 active people in it: an ayden and two asian fujos creating disgusting cuntboy shit and an insane non-sharing yume
it's depressing as a 30+ fujo to remember a time when things were different. it's a small fandom for a popular anime that's old and therefore dead but since there was an active fandom for it Back in the Day™ i assumed there might be one or two relatively normal people left creating content and fujoing out. nope.
i'd still find cuntboy shit disgusting but i'd be less upset if it was at least interesting but it's not, it's just the same cuntboy getting passed around like a blunt ad nauseam. do they give other characters vaginas? no, just the one they want to reduce to nothing but a sniveling rapebait uke/bottom (which feels misogynistic, and i'm not even a moralfag).
i imported some doujins for my OTP and it made me sad translating the artist notes and reading about the community that once existed. i feel so nostalgic for livejournal and even early tumblr. i'm an artist and a writer but i just don't see the point in publicly contributing what i create because i don't feel like there's an audience for it anymore. there's probably other fujos out there who lurk and wait for something worth interacting with but maybe that's just me coping.
No.13408
>>13402>>13405Fujos get the same hate for "all yaoi is toxic and rape" so I don't know what you're talking about. It clearly didn't result in any unity. Most of the anti fujo yumes I see love dark het romance, they just hate m/m because it's making their favorite male characters gay and they can't stand it. It's like expecting unity from lolicons or yuri fans. Everyone hates fujos and it's not because they care about being against hypocrisy. You're acting like it was fujos doing this to yumes and also not hetfags policing each other. Most of the moralfagging about "bad boy romances" come from other hetfags, not fujos.
No.13409
>>13407Maybe your canon will get an unexpected remake anime to revive the fandom or something anon. Keep the hope.
Cuntboy shit is so disgusting and foul. I hate that some yaoi sites allow it. It and tranny shit have replaced all the old-fashioned fun genderswap stuff I used to like on some characters and canons.
It's all their weird projection self-insert 'fetish for top scars and the trans progress' shit instead of anything fun.
No.13410
>>13409Anime remakes bring in the same people. Fandom culture has changed which is why you see more cuntboy shit. Everything is about self inserting or being about "issues" now.
No.13411
>>13410Yeah but you'd hope a mass of more people might bring in SOME other normal fujos.
No.13412
>>13407You can never know there is an audience or not, because normal people don't announce themselves and pester others to create stuff for them. I wish there were more fics for older stuff I enjoy, but what can I do? I'm just going to give likes to what is out there, not whine how my fandom needs are not being met.
>>13410>Anime remakes bring in the same peopleEh, not really. I wasn't familiar with the original Samurai Troopers anime, but watched the sequel and liked it. Likewise I watched/read older Devilman entries only after watching Devilman Crybaby.
No.13413
>>13407>no, just the one they want to reduce to nothing but a sniveling rapebait uke/bottom (which feels misogynistic, and i'm not even a moralfag).Oh absolutely. It's forced feminization, which is already misogynistic, taken to its 'logical' endpoint.
No.13414
>>13413>It's forced feminization, which is already misogynistic, taken to its 'logical' endpoint.They'd call you a misogynist for implying it's misogynistic, lmao
No.13415
>>13413I made the mistake of interacting with an Ayden once and noticed that they consistently made male characters that were emotional, vulnerable, and small/short cuntboys who wanted to be raped/impregnated by men. When I (jokingly) suggested making some bara characters that I like cuntboys I watched the woke leave their body and they were disgusted. It's so transparently misogynistic. A man who isn't hypermasculine and conveys strong emotions = woman, obviously, and anything else is wrong.
No.13416
>>13415I recently discovered a really good manhwa where the bottom is fucking PSYCHO and dominant and the top is very reserved and carries a lot of trauma, and the amount of blithering retards on mangago (I know, I know) who want the bottom to top is enraging. They all use the "SWITCH" to sound woke and oh so cultured, but it's because they cannot fathom a bottom taking complete control. It has to be the fucker not the fuckee doing everything. They see the top character as the natural submissive therefore female therefore fuckhole. It's so disgusting and misogynistic. You never see this ardent cry for switching with dom tops like in Jinx, only when the top isn't your typical abusive or charismatic dominant top. I fucking see what you're doing and you're not being sneaky.
No.13417
>>13405>There was the entire mainstream sjw moralfag backlash against Twilight and against romcoms in general, calling them problematic, sexist, heteronormative, rape culture, evil.The difference between this and what fujos go through is that it's really, REALLY easy to ignore mainstream/male critique whereas the harassment fujos face is coming from inside of their house (fandom spaces). The only het ships I can think of that ever got that kind of treatment were Reylo and something from The Pit(sp?) where a fic with a bi woman people aggressively hc as lesbian was with a man. I can't even think of a modern example of a yume getting harassed out of fandom space–even that lady who got shit for having Bakugo/self insert art is going on a decade old.
No.13418
>>13416Off topic but what's the name of it? I've been DYING for stuff with dom bottoms.
No.13419
>>13408>Most of the anti fujo yumes I see love dark het romance, they just hate m/m because it's making their favorite male characters gay and they can't stand itThis. I don't know where anon is getting this idea that only yumes have to bear the brunt with female-oriented media being ridiculed and moralized for being "immoral rape porn", fujos have to deal with that shit ten-fold and add to it yumes constantly pick fights because they feel homosexuality either emasculates their husbando or it steals their husbando away from them and now even new generation yurifags are screeching about fujos being muh male-centered misogynistic cockbreaths.
>Most of the moralfagging about "bad boy romances" come from other hetfags, not fujos.Also this. Fujos make fun of alpha CEO wolves raping petite bigtit (you) protagonists mostly as a reactionary tool when yumes try to come for them and shame them for their BL tropes.