/bl/ - General BL

I like both original BL and fandom BL but for different reasons. I haven't read long manhwa or danmei stories yet so I can only speak for Japanese BL: they more often than not tend to be short or new chapters/volumes are released so slowly they seem never ending. I like when they have a specific plot or setting, I find simple romance between high school students or salarymen repetitive now. I bought the first volume of Heaven's Official Blessing months ago and haven't read it yet because I'm just focusing on other things but I'm looking forward to it.

As for fandom BL, I think most fujoshi just get into a story/video game/manga/tv show, etc. just because they seem fun without the shipping factor and they will organically get into one or several gay pairings if they like the characters and their dynamics enough. That's my case at least and I like plenty of stuff without shipping any of the characters together. In that case fans are more likely to share their love for these pairings with other fans especially if they're into an ongoing series and more "hints" and scenes are released in some episodes or chapters or volumes. While with BL manga since most of them are one-shots personally I just check new releases online, buy and read whatever I feel like reading and don't feel the need to look for a fandom to talk about it besides maybe saying I loved this manga or that manga in a few tweets or here.

>What does it take for original BL works to aquire a fandom?
It's not something you can predict as easily as with mainstream stories. I feel it either needs to be a massive viral success because it's different from what's usually released or it has the "factor" to become a classic that will influence other BL artists. Or it has to be made by a successful and proactive artist with an already established fanbase I guess, like Asada Nemui or Ogerestu Tanaka. Obviously long series are more likely to have a fanbase: if you release an office romcom BL in one volume you're less likely to have an online fanbase with fans trying to guess what's going to happen in the next chapter compared to longer and plot heavy BL stories like Lullaby of the Dawn or The Summer Hikaru died (I know it's technically not a BL but it's treated as such by most if its biggest fans). It's the same for Yuri on Ice. Everyone was trying to guess what kind of crazy shit the next episodes would pull off each week. So that led to plenty of discussiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6217
>What does it take for original BL works to aquire a fandom?
Being longer than 1-2 volumes, for starters. For anime, it has to be BL + plot/theme outside of BL. For VNs - either needs to be plot-heavy (Adelta VNs), edgy (N+C VNs) or a meme game (Hadaka Shitsuji).

Aside from the plot focus, MXTX novels have popped off so much because of the prominent side characters who are shippable but not in canon relationships, so there's a lot more to play around with.
It's pretty interesting how Heated Rivalry is so huge right now despite it seemingly being like the TV equivalent of a smutty BL manga, not having slow burn or super deep plot. Must be the novelty and mainstream visibility, as well as being baby's first canon gay for some.

The femboy option appears. I couldn't ask for more.

>yakuza becomes a K-pop idol stan
>it's not BL
Just why.

>>6204
the author has a BL manga lol which probably informs how she writes this and the character interactions I wish the Yazuka did get dicked down by his bias though, but I think the author just wrote this for the outlandish premise

>>6188
>>6187
This is what manhwa looks like to me.

>>6171
Kek, at least someone is enjoying the comment section. It's crazy how divided they are but it's so funny that some of the more normal commenters predicted the cum jars a chapter or two back.

I tried reading A Fate Rewritten when it was first coming out but the top is way too crazy for me. I tried re-reading it because of this comment and I'm mad the second top will never get with him. did the bottom and second top ever have sex? If so, please direct me to the chapter lol

>>6175
>predicted
Lel, nice.
>the top is way too crazy for me.
Absolutely understandable, in general it's pretty wild, spoilers I recall toward the end the final confrontation with Geolson and Moonyoung + all the side cast dying being mega melodramatic/silly. I think he's fun because he's shitty in such a specific way. Lee was always manipulative but chapter 13 absolutely trashes even the possibility of considering he might be a bit better than his past self. From then it's just watching him do something cruel, feel genuinely bad about it after, only to instantly get set off again and repeat the cycle. I gotta finish my re-read because I'm honestly blanking on a few bits but it's definitely NOT a sweet romance because he really is just a total ass for a long while, so in turn the hopeful ending probably won't reaaally feel right. Overall though I think it conveys the massive gap in their power dynamics really well, in that there's genuine affection from Lee/Moonyoung but he's just too much of a tyrant to really be reasonable when Geolson/Jung doesn't immediately go kyaaah and bend over at his every compliment, and thus will quickly use that gap to his advantage in return. It's definitely more suited to someone who /really/ enjoys dickhead tops/miserable bottoms.
>Mad the second top will never get him
I do like quite like Lee but, yeah, felt. Kitae is legitimately handsome and I kinda hate liking him so much because no, nothing goes anywhere with him and Jung, the best he gets is a hug, I believe.

>>6177
Justice for Kitae. I wish he dicked down MC so MC could have loving sex and then still end up with Lee to keep his life miserable lol I feel there's shades of this dynamic in Beware of the Full Moon in March, though only in the start.

These two, for me, are my Rarepair OTP…Vercci/Voldo from Soul Calibur! They’re very close to canon as far as I’m concerned, but they tend to have a very small amount of fandom activity, sadly.

I mean I gotta ship the Kaworu expy with the protagonist

Wesker x Leon??

Never met in canon but I wanna see them hatefuck or at least Wesker dominating Leon.

I finished off Summertime Rendering today! It was an alright watch despite plot holes and whatnot.

The anime itself is very het, but in the second half, the protagonist (Shinpei) ends up sharing his body with a spirit of sorts. They're mutually aware of each other and it's a very wholesome sort of possession, but yeah.

Do you know of any BL with that kind of a set-up? Where the protagonist lives with a ghost/demon/whatever inhabiting his body, a split personality or something like that?

I freakin love the concept 'cause c'mon, it can lead to all sorts of stupid funny hijinks. Anything from 'gimme privacy I need some time alone-' to '…huh arent we technically sleeping together?'

It's especially good if they're both uncomfortable with the set-up at first then yeah, ghost boyfriend time lol. And it's a cool excuse to have a mystery plot too haha

Begging for the best fic recs involving noncon body modifications, transformations, body horror, general noncon, forced disabilities, psychological humiliation whatever. Just the best fics fujochan would recommend. I finished a fic about a character getting kidnapped with these elements, now I have a hole in my heart. Fandom doesn’t matter. I'll read the source material if the fic is really good. I love it when a character starts transforming and the fic describes the change in detail.

>>5847
I remember there being a bit for Mercandio (hope I'm spelling his name right) and the leader of the Companions, but almost all of it is X Dragonborn so it's a bit like an OC.

Ulfric has a lot you can do both woth Stormcloaks and Imperials… godspeed nonna!

>>5849
I don't mind oc x canon shipping as long as it's interesting and well written, which it seldom it, because people tend to just write the actual plot and dialogue directly from the game, and I find that very boring.

Has anyone played Another Eidos R? It's an Arknights style tower defense game with gay/bara theming. I saw cute fanart of a character and started it. Literally the first cutscene in the game is about how MC-kun is jealous that his brother is getting married because he wants to fuck his brother. Wild way to start the game.

Didn't get the character I was interested in in the initial 10pull and mobile games are a hard sell so I don't know how long I'll stick around.

>>5913
All Out was a little homo but also so horny for teenage boys.

I wasn't expecting so many gay jokes.

>>6064
Isn't he a villain? That's not surprising

>>6115
I dunno, I forgot a lot of what happened in season 1.

>>4489
Shounen Meguru absolutely broke me! It's all I ever wanted with the level of tragedy and how gruesome it is, I hate how tiktok got to it though