/wes/ - Western & Alternative Style

The fact that this show had eight seasons in two years makes my head spin when I think about it. It felt like the show ran for much longer than it actually did.

Finally finished season 1 of my rewatch and I gotta wonder how people were shipping anything outside of Klance, Shallura, Shidge, Allurance, and ShayHunk. I say as a Shance shipper. I feel like the cast barely interacted in an interesting way at all. I assume the fandom itself elevated a lot of the ships because somehow 6,000+ fics were spawned on ao3 just from the first season.

Anyway, picrel was like the only decent interaction Shance had in the first season. And it was soiled later by Lance thanking Keith for saving the day, this was were the whole "I cradled you in my arms" scene occured, even though Shiro was the one looking after Lance and Pidge was the real hero. There were a few moments where I liked that Shiro would berate Lance for being a perv. Those were cute. Wish there were more. I also wish that Lance had more hero worship for Shiro considering he says in the first episode that Shiro is his hero. But there wasn't much of that if any.

Also I kinda don't like Keith so far. Don't know what young me saw in him. I find him a little boring. Also shocked that he wasn't voiced by Dante Basco. My brain gave him that voice for so long, hearing some other va was wild.

>>1300
Yeah when I opened the show on the site I'm using to watch it, I was a little overwhelmed when I saw there was 8 seasons. I only watched 1 and a half when it was coming out. But the show only ran from 2016-2018 and only the first season was in 2016, so the bulk of the series was during 2017 and 2018. I'm a little confused on how the showrunners apparently fought with the executives for certain things like Shiro being gay in such a small amount of time. Like how did they shit this out so fast?

>>1296
Just watched the first episode. Lance needs correction from Keith

>>1310
>Sorry pure autism on my part
No that's an informative post. I think it's interesting that the meta narrative of actual studio history plays a part in your perception of the characters("actors") and ship, rather than considering them locked to their "continuity". Do you have any strong feelings about Tiny Toons? I know it got a reboot somewhat recently. Kind of joking but not really: what do you think about Loonatics Unleashed? I remember the Daffy and Porky analogs had a history.

Honestly I'm really happy a Looney Tunes fujo is here. /co/ used to have fujos floating around but that era is over.

>>1311
Haven't checked out either of the reboots but I enjoy Tiny Toons and Animaniacs because they both play into the "characters as actors" angle, and are very self-aware. Loonatics is a bit too out there, but it's really conceptually funny and kind of falls into the so-bad-its-good field. If we're talking spin-offs that aren't "canon" I consider Duck Dodgers to be the best. The late 30s and early 40s shorts era are my favorite though and if you were looking for recommendations I'd check those out to see the best the franchise has to offer.

>/co/ used to have fujos floating around but that era is over
The MCU destroyed /co/ for me, I haven't used 4chan in half a decade but even before that the capeshit /tv/ fags took over the board and just spammed politically charged bait pushing actual cartoon stuff off unless it was softcore milf threads or other non-discussion art dumps. Sad state of affairs.

I'm sure it's that the times were different but the very "smug anime girl" way Chuck Jones drew the characters (mainly Bugs) especially later in life looks really fucking horny to me. Maybe he drew human females the same way is his free time, I don't know.
I'm not very versed in Looney Tones as a living franchise today.

Not western but I watched the Kaze to Ki no Uta OVA. Good stuff! Now time to download the manga. Keiko Takemiya's art style is beautiful and I would love to see modern "takes" on it (similar to how Shundei's lovely artstyle takes inspiration from the 80s).

I also watched Death in Venice a little while ago. I'm glad I watched it out of historical interest and for film hobbyist reasons, but I think modern audiences would find it long and boring. It's sad and distrubing how Björn Andrésen was treated. I thought he looked beautiful and otherworldly in Midsommar. I plan on watching the The Most Beautiful Boy in the World documentary as well.

Might check out The Heart of Thomas next or The Picture of Dorian Gray since I haven't read that yet. I'll def read the novel first censored and uncensored, but I wonder if the film adaptations are good?

>>1303
70s BL is so ethereal. I've also always wished for a comeback. I am of the unpopular opinion that BL looked the best in the 70s, back when it was heavily inspired by shoujo. I also love that the OVA has the same character designer as the original gundam, cracks me up to think of a normie looking boomer like Yasuhiko being told he has to do character designs for a BL.

Tim Roth is such a QT. The dynamic between these two in the movie just gets better and better the more you watch because of tarantintoe's out-of-order timeline style of film.

Just saw Saw 1. I want to see Adam bottom

>>1111
I remember thinking Saw would be an interesting setting for a BL story but the movies don't do much for me personally.

Recently saw Scream for the first time and I was pleasantly surprised by how funny it was. I also was thankful I didn't have the twist of there being 2 murderers ruined. Time to read every Billy/Stu fanfic

>>1263
I'm not a massive John fan or anything, but did you see the recent fan survey results? The demographics are so fucked. I keep hoping they'll just outright cancel the whole thing before they run it further into the ground.

>>1264
Wait HS2 is still going? I thought it died long ago lol.
Also poor John…. JohnDave and JohnKat were my top ships when i was a HS fan so I really hate that they are transing him.

>>1102
Finally! Thank you anon.

>Season 1 or Season 2?
I feel like season 1 was more laid back and we got to see more of the characters. Since Alex for some reason decided to cram season 2 and 3 into one i think the ending was a little rushed in season 2. We got Ford back, but he was barely in the episodes. I think that also contributed to people hating him back then (and now, with the rewatchs i see a lot of people still hating Ford lol)
>Should the show get a revival/third season?
Nope. I don't think a third season now would hit the same as the last two. Something would be missing, like every cartoon revival ends fucking something up. We COULD get some Stan and Ford boat adventures tho…like Fionna and Cake got a more adult-leaning show last year
>Stancest or Billdip?
Stancest has a very special place in my heart! But i also enjoy Billbip because i feel like Bill and Dipper have a loooooot of chemistry, it's insane.
>Favorite episode?
NWHS and Scary-oke. You know why

i wish i had known about this thread six months ago

>>1282
I'd watch/read a grimdark spin-off with them. Perfect mindfuck dubcon material.

>>1244
I could never draw on phones I think, if you have a PC you should try it there, I swear it's easier. Or if you have spare money you can buy a Surface Pro one day. They are as good as ipad pro but cost less and you can draw onto the tablet like a canvas. I think you can get the Surface Pro 6 for a few hundreds by now. I use a desktop PC and/or Surface Pro 7 though so I don't know how good 6 is but it shouldn't be very different.

ANYWAY, I don't have many tips. For me it helped that I always drew anime-styled stuff and that the IDW characters look like fancy mecha.

But in general what new artists should do way more often is: tracing for training.
Tracing is looked down on because people associate it with artists faking their proficiency. But tracing as training can help, I did it all the time when I was a little kid and it made me get a gist of how proper lines and proportions are drawn. You need to get a feeling for the bodies you want to draw, especially if they're huge like the ones Transformers have.

Also when you start drawing your own poses don't despair if the first sketch looks wrong or even if you notice 50% in that the pose looks off. I think it's normal to repose and redraw parts all the damn time especially with complex characters like TFs. Don't do outlines and details right away, I always make one VERY vague sketch first (basically just the dynamic it should have or the "shape"). Then a sketchy shape of the body like pic related. Then detailed lines which is where I do most of the changes by selecting and transforming bodyparts with the lasso tool and only after that do I start with the actual outlines kek

But maybe other TF fans have other methods. It also depends on the series too. Some series have twinkier designs so you can basically draw anime body types and add armor.

>>1245
Drawing with a phone is really, really hard. Because the screen's so small even with my stylus.

Not impossible, just hard.

But while I can do 'art' (painting) I abhor working with pencil and paper. Digital screens are awesome and I wish I invested in one when I had student discounts. I'm not aiming for Chinese digital art quality, I honestly just want to do cute sketches like yours. Just getting a single helmet right would make my week. Which is what I've been practicing. So many of the cast have Roman armor shaped heads at their base which has helped me understand what they're going for with some designs. But an actual tablet seems to be the way.

Should I watch the Venom Trilogy? I generally don't watch/read superhero stuff but I saw some Symbrock fanart and it piqued my interest. However, it doesn't seem to have great ratings and I don't want to waste my time if it isn't good.

>>1271
the first two are great. hated the third. they don’t really act like their comic counterparts and are more comedic but I like them anyways. their comic selves tend to lean more codependent (which I absolutely love)

>>1277
Thank you nona! I actually got the first two movies from my library and I'm watching them this weekend. I'm halfway through the original and I'm enjoying it. If I may ask, why didn't you like The Last Dance? Also, which of the comics do you recommend I read first?

never watched the movie but a discord friend recommended this to me and it was so sweet i just had to reshare it somewhere where i wont be embarrassed about doing so
https://archiveofourown.org/works/57804874

>>1057
my god, i need more

>>665
i will never forget that post from a /co/ anon as soon as they saw this picture
did you glued pubes to your face, joker
do you like it