No.13989
Double Digits edition.
Post random thoughts that don't fit another thread.
Prior thread
>>13099 No.13998
>>13997If seme butts were better drawn on average then I would agree with you, although I don't want to see their asshole pointed at the camera.
To be honest, butts in anime are just usually not well whether it's male or female. Female slightly better but all the effort is always on the boobs.
No.13999
I was bored so I went back through these threads and read all the discussions I've been involved in. I've been around here for about 4 years. Does anybody else do that? I got kind of confused before I remembered that there was a temporary (You) misattribution after that one downtime.
No.14000
Is it ok to dislike gays irl because they're cringe and hypersexual, but like them in anime/video games/novels?
>>13997Where is this from please tell me?
No.14001
>>13999I’ve been here from the beginning and I do that too sometimes. It makes me so nostalgic, but I also wonder how many of the anons I had conversations with have already moved on.
>>14000It’s from Slow Damage. Madarame’s euphoria (good) route.
No.14002
>>14000It's fine to dislike the cringe and hypersexual ones, but I've met a good helping of gay men that are normal and have average/low libidos.
No.14004
>>14000>Is it ok to dislike gays irl No
No.14005
>>14000>Is it ok to dislike gays irlYes
No.14007
>>14004stop it handmaiden, they are still men, most of them are hyper misogynistic
No.14008
>>14006Dang, it always sucks when something gets axed before it's prime, but hopefully you can channel the energy into something good like a fanwork.
Is it a BL or general series? You could cross your fingers for a revival in the future.
No.14009
>>14007Not all gays are men, and hating men is not an excuse for homophobia, straight men are not any less mysogynistic or hypersexual
No.14010
>>14007Gay men and women have historically been allies. No point trying to fracture people like this really. BL is already in danger because retardo conservatice would rather jail people who write gay kissing than face their problems.
No.14011
>>14009>>14010>not an excuse for homophobiaSo you can hate all men but gay men have a pass because they like to get fucked in the ass? great logic
also nonas don't need an excuse to be homophobe, they can just be and that's that.
No.14013
>>14011How about you guys don't encourage this culture here. All this is gonna do is attract moids/soyjakfaggots here and shit up this site. Go be homophobic but dont post about it.
No.14014
I think being a homophobic fujoshi makes no sense like be a yume instead
No.14015
>>14013how come yurifags don't have to prove their alliances to lesbians all the time? yet women are slashed for just not caring
No.14016
>>14011It's ok to be mentally challenged but maybe /p0l/ would be a better place for you to find like-minded idvividuals nonnie.
No.14017
I ship AxB, which is the fandom's preference, but recently I've been thinking about BxA too and I think it's hot af. I wanna talk about it on my social media but I'm afraid that autistic fixed shippers are the majority and some of my followers might block me… ugghhh. BxA is still so fucking hot though.
No.14018
>>14011It's not always the ass. There's handjobs, blowjobs, frotting, dry humping and so much more all for our entertainment and pleasure.
No.14019
>>14013>So you can hate all men but gay men have a pass because they like to get fucked in the ass? Correct.
No.14020
>>14013The only moids this site is going to attract are the gays from /y/ and /cm/ who also hate women kek I'm pretty sure that sharty raid didn't happen because anons were homophobic…
>>14015Seriously. Saying fujos need to like irl gay men is like saying male yurifags and lesbian porn consumers should be lesbian rights activists. Or that CGDCT anime is feminist while BL is misogynistic and worships men. No one expects men to support the LGBT community for getting off to characters they're attracted to. It's just fiction.
No.14021
>>14020>Saying fujos need to like irl gay men is like saying male yurifags and lesbian porn consumers should be lesbian rights activistsHomophobic men who jerk off to lesbians have always been cringe and I'm pretty sure any sane woman thinks that, idk why'd you think that being a homophobic straight woman who jerks off to gays would somehow not be cringe. Fiction is different from irl, but openly calling yourself a homophobe and expecting people to pet you on the back for it is fascinating.
No.14022
>>14021Personally I think it's cringe to be a woman who jerks off to gays then insists there is an (un)ethical way to jerk off to them. Most BL isn't even trying to depict gays realistically. I'm a shotafag too but don't like irl children or pedophiles. Does this also make me a cringe hypocrite who should support NAMBLA?
No.14023
I really can tell who are the twitterites that just come here to complain about trannies but still love to "support queer men"(who all hate you) from these posts
No.14024
>>14021I enjoy being cringe.
No.14025
>>14023Trannies deserve to be dunked on in peace.
No.14027
>>14026Same, the "all men are scum" crowd need to fuck off back to lolcow. Keep your spergery away from my 2D men
No.14028
>>14026Same, the "not all men" crowd need to fuck off back to lolcow. Keep your spergery away from my 2D men
No.14029
>>14008It's a battle shounen (though I absolutely find the guys cute too.) One of those cases where I wish I were a drawfag rather than a writefag because I'd 100% be pumping out art of it til the end.
>revivalMore than likely not in the cards, sadly, but I'll wish the author the best and hope they can come back with a new series.
(Thank you for the Thorkell)
No.14031
>>14029>It's a battle shounenWhich one? I haven't keep up with WSJ and the other shonen magz for a while. Maybe I'll read it in my spare time. Even if it ended, you can always share your enthusiasm and convert more fans ♡
No.14033
>>14032>Alien Headbuttayrt
Wait..So this is how I learn AH got axed…?
That's too bad, I only read 2 chapters when it started but thought it was a fun series.
Definitely will add it to my readlist, especially since it ended that fast.
No.14074
>>14072I'm not interested in rp myself, but I do like the idea and I think it's worth a try.
No.14076
>>14075I just finished vol 6 and thought these two were kinda fruity. Good to know there's a little bit out there!
No.14084
>>14083I am the director and the cinematographer, not part of the cast!
No.14085
>>14083Anyone that insists you should only ever do a certain thing in a certain way is more concerned with presenting as being on the right team than they are anything else.
No.14086
>>14083People who self-insert most likely only interact with media in the most surface-level selfish way possible, like gluttony of consumption without any true enjoyment, eating for the sake of it.
Because how would you actually read books like, eg. mainstream example Crime and Punishment? "nooo I don't empathize with rodion I don't feel like reading, he's not relatable enough"
They don't. Their world consists only of themselves, and the character they like. Like those people whose entire personality are their boyfriends or husbands.
They only consume wattpad shit, play some games with femc options, and if there isn't a femc option they'll just literally insert themselves into the story anyway
No.14087
>>14083I wonder if it's insecurity around being a yume that causes them to say that.
No.14090
>>14088I don't want to work either. Be strong anon, it's almost payday.
No.14091
>>14090Yes!
>>14088 Think of all the figurines and doujins you can buy with your coming paycheck
No.14093
>>14092Frank Frazatta but gay… nona your mind…
No.14094
>>14093He did draw porn with some surpising focus on the male. Unfortunately it was some gross interracial/blacked bullshit.
No.14131
Hello, I admit I don't come here too often so idk if there are better threads to ask this, however I am a fujo looking for more fujo stuff and other fujos so hopefully it's ok! I wonder if anyone here would like to make a BL visual novel together? I can use ren'py, make some songs and art but I'd love to work together with someone on characters and story. I like pretty much everything so I don't even care about genre or tropes. I just want to make some fujo stuff with other fujos and it would be cool to publish a game!
I'm not too good at setting up servers or verification though so maybe someone else would need to do that.
No.14134
>>14132Omg thank you anon, I was looking for it but couldn't find it. I even posted in it a while ago, I'm stupid.
No.14149
Have you ever not cared about a ship in theory but then warmed up to it because an artist you like for a different ship started drawing it on the side? I'm experiencing that right now.
No.14150
>>14149I ship Ryan Gosling and that piece of rock thanks to some artists I admire and because nonnas on here like it. I have never seen project hail mary.
No.14152
>>14149Science Boyfriends (Iron Man/Hulk) was the designated third wheel ship when Loki and Steve are unavaible so I've cone to enjoy it through exposure.
I can't think of a ship that I've come to love through an unrelated artist drawing it, but there are series I otherwise wouldn't have checked out if artist I liked didn't get into them, Golden Kamuy being a big one.
No.14153
>>14149Not quite the same but I did end up falling in love with a rarepair from a JRPG series that was drawn by a few JP artists back in the day. The art convinced me. Completely unheard of ship in NA fandom.
No.14154
>>14149A person I like to keep eyes on because we share a few ships helped nudge me into Kakyoin/Polnareff. It didn't take much tbh since I already enjoyed their goofy canon interactions, but the art she rt'd definitely didn't hurt.
No.14157
>>14150Listen to the easily pirated audiobook. Watch the movie when you have time. Understand that seeing that rock alien's guzzling anus is a real moment of intimacy that Ryan Gosling did not appreciate for its true worth.
No.14158
>>14157Don't forget where
Grace thinks to himself he wants to see Rocky lay eggs, aka jack off! I do have to wonder if the author was aware of what he was writing or he was just like "he's thinking this out of scientific curiosity ONLY". I hc on the trip back since Rocky was embarrassed eating and shitting in front of Grace, he forces Grace to return the favor. I'm not into scat but I like the idea of them exploring each other's bodies. Even though it sadly always have to be through a xenonite barrier.
Also Grace saying he would let Rocky perform heart surgery on him… No.14159
>>14158Man this made me realize what my problem with all the fisting porn is. Ignoring that I'm not really that interested in seeing Ryan Gosling's sweaty balls, I haven't seen anything that focuses on a voyeur aspect to them getting off. I'm sure there's probably fics out there if I look, but all the drawn porn I've seen has been some degree of mouthing or penetration with a xenonite dental dam/condom. It really should be about trying to perform in front of someone watching your every move, especially with how sheepish Grace would be. Several years of getting berated by a scary space monster whenever his breathing gives him away from half a ship apart and he's coming out of this with some strange kinks.
No.14160
>>14159>with all the fisting porn isThank god I'm not seeing any of that LMAO.
>voyeur aspect to them getting off.Yes same! The first tag I looked up after I finished PHM was masturbation because I found that they couldn't actually touch each other (ik I posted a fanart of them being able to but I just did that bc it has Rocky's book design, I actually think that they can't touch each other is such an underutilized trope!) I also like that there's the plausible deniability of it being for science for both of them not to mention the research that mentions (and is the reason why the HM's astronauts were originally in comas) that humans would probably go crazy stuck together in those circumstances for several years so I imagine at some point Grace starts losing his mind and Rocky is desperate to keep him from losing his shit both mentally and physically (since he has to rely on the taumoebae for food) so the boundaries between platonic/sexual begin to blur.
>xenonite dental dam/condomWHERE'S THE FROTTING, WHERE'S THE MUTUAL MASTURBATION, WHERE'S MAKING AN INVENTION JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE INTERCRURAL SEX. Penetration or oral can be so overrated sometimes.
>he's coming out of this with some strange kinksYES!!! Your brain is so big, Rocky has great hearing and before on their mission I'm sure Rocky was too polite or too ignorant to say anything while they lived together! Now with his access to all of Earth's knowledge and the exasperation that can result from rooming with someone without having a mission to distract you, he is very uncomfortable with Grace's Weird Noise Made In The Excretion Room. Not to mention Grace's sheepishness and him slowly losing his mind. Nona I love you.
No.14174
Seeing all the posts above… for how bleak the future looks with gacha domination I appreciate that people are a lot more willing to just openly ship weird stuff, especially involving non-humanoid characters. I can't imagine something like that taking off 15 years ago.
No.14176
>>14174> I can't imagine something like that taking off 15 years ago.I think people were more willing to ship "weird" things before. Remember that people shipped Bill Cypher with Dipper and Bill is a literal fucking triangle. Oncecest, etc.
On a tangentially related matter, am I the only one that feels that people have been treating shipping too much as a stand-in for what they want in a relationship or have been twisting almost any ship into always being vanilla and domestic even if they aren't?
I feel like there's less people shipping weird ships or ships that simply would feel interesting dynamic-wise even if they wouldn't be the best romantic partners.
As if shipping has to equal a healthy loving domestic relationship, yknow?
Maybe it's me because in my fandom, there's a hero-villian pair that quite literally don't interact with each other all that much and don't really care about each other that much but people love to make them domestic, fluffy AUs, "powercouple", acting completely ooc from their original selves.
No.14177
>>14176Funnily enough I actually happened to stumble upon the complete opposite today where a JP artist ships the Pokemon ORAS male MC with Steven except that Steven is a full blown kidnapper yandere in these artworks while in canon he's just a regular guy with completely neutral interactions with MC. I get the impression that JP artists are more likely to shoehorn in a yandere dynamic while western artists shoehorn in domestic qualities.
No.14178
>>14176Bill was usually humanized though or rendered as blipper. It's the same thing with people who were big Wheatley fans, while on-model fans existed it wasn't the default. Project Hail Mary fans are intriguing to me because I haven't seen a single humanized version of Rocky, it's cool.
You bring up onecest, but I think one of the big reasons that took off is precisely because people weren't willing to ship him with the Lorax because that'd be "weird", and there were no other characters to ship him with (though I remember a few time-travel works with Ted.)
>On a tangentially related matter, am I the only one that feels that people have been treating shipping too much as a stand-in for what they want in a relationship or have been twisting almost any ship into always being vanilla and domestic even if they aren't?That or 2edgy garbage where a characteris inexplicably a rapist for no reason. There are some people who find a dynamic they like and then just write every couple the same exact way regardless of the characters. While I'm of the firm belief that every ship has the potential to be domestic or dark depending on what you choose to focus on, it's pretty obvious when an author just decides to ignore problematic or boring elements of a character to do what they want.
No.14179
>>14176>>14177>I the only one that feels that people have been treating shipping too much as a stand-in for what they want in a relationshipIve seen it too, more so the yandere stuff. Its annoying when there are series that have the dynamics theyre looking for, but they never seem interested in opening up to new things and just stick to the same old Pokemon/Genshin/Shounen Jump stuff.
I guess its due to character design beign a priority and popularity.
No.14180
>>14178>Project Hail Mary fans are intriguing to me because I haven't seen a single humanized version of Rocky, it's cool.The main people that do tbh are closet RPFers and make human!Rocky look like his VA, and they have unfortunately been growing in numbers. But I am glad people are pushing back against it and calling it the coward's yaoi. I will say one good thing about the PHM fandom since I complain a bunch about them kek is that a lot of the "platonic" art is only platonic in name and is indistinguishable from romantic Grace/Rocky. Which just confirms to me people are just afraid to push back against popular fanon.
No.14181
>>14180>a lot of the "platonic" art is only platonic in name and is indistinguishable from romantic Grace/RockyI haven't seen the movie yet but I notice this kind of thing is really noticeable in other fandoms when a ship is considered odd or "problematic", there will be fanart where the characters will be kissing each other on the cheek and blushing but the artist will swear up and down that it's completely platonic and you're a terrible person if you ship them. It's always really obvious they ship it themselves but don't want to be harassed.
No.14182
>>14181My favourite version of this is when they're brothers kek
No.14183
>>14182That's my favorite too lmao. Like come the fuck on, real brothers don't kiss each other on the cheek and hold hands and blush, you aren't fooling anyone.
No.14184
>>14177nonnie, by chance do you have a link to this artist? you've got me curious.
No.14185
>>14182It's very funny whenever it happens in a fandom where the relationship with the most development in canon is between family members (FMA, DMC, Arcane, etc.). It's like, besides yumes and OC ships, wtf else are people going to ship? I'm always surprised at how much Elricest has died down but looking through the general FMA tags and I will see lovingly rendered art of their bond and little to none of Winry despite this artist's recorded history of being mainly a shipper in their other fandoms kek. I think it doesn't help fandoms are so extreme. If you ship any controversial ship, effectively your only audience from then on will only be other "pro-shippers" who most of the time are just as guilty as being OOC as "anti-shippers" except with way more noncon and who are very annoying at competing with each other for being the biggest edgelord.
No.14186
>>14184@dLhUmzwggz97612
The funny part is that I found this artist through a recent series of cutesy sad pokopia comics so yandere steven was like a jumpscare, kek.
No.14188
>>14185This is definitely one of the reasons why readerfic and selfinsert seems to be everywhere now. The dedicated slash shippers will usually latch onto the nearest male character who is in the appropriate age range and is non-related, whether or not he has interacted with the guy they want to ship him with. These ships end up becoming my NOTP fast even if there is something in the dynamic that I think could be interesting, because that's never what I'm going to see.
No.14189
>>14188Yeah… I've read a few Main Guy/Closest Breathing Male that I enjoyed, but by and large it's horrible. Thor and Loki have the most tension, but that's icky—ship him with Iron Man. DMC is the funniest version of this, because people shipped Dante with Nero to avoid incest with Vergil, because when 4 came out, they were only distantly related. Then 5 released (well, that Japanese novel released first, but there was no translation for ages), and suddenly bam! Retroactive incest!
I wish people could write OCs better. I'd read Interesting Male OC/Main Guy in a heartbeat. It's much better than the alternative.
No.14190
>>14189Don't forget people shipping Nero and V before the game was released just because they aren't related… until it turned out to be even worse than the other gay ships because of V's real identitty kek. And Itsuno gave no fuck and liked Nero/V almost nsfw art on twitter before DMC5's release date which tricked everyone into believing they weren't related.
No.14209
I just saw someone call a canon hetero couple an "Industry plant ship" and it greatly amused me. Your safe official pair will never have the most fanworks.
No.14210
>>14209Is Buffy the only case where it did? I have not checked in on the fandom since perhaps the 90's
No.14215
>>14210Twilight and Hunger Games both spring to mind. The post I saw was referring to a DC pairing though, which is completely different than series which are marketed as Het romances.
No.14220
>>14218I could never, because if For You shows me my NOTP it puts me in a bad mood for days.