No.13989[Last 50 Posts]
Double Digits edition.
Post random thoughts that don't fit another thread.
Prior thread
>>13099 No.13998
>>13997If seme butts were better drawn on average then I would agree with you, although I don't want to see their asshole pointed at the camera.
To be honest, butts in anime are just usually not well whether it's male or female. Female slightly better but all the effort is always on the boobs.
No.13999
I was bored so I went back through these threads and read all the discussions I've been involved in. I've been around here for about 4 years. Does anybody else do that? I got kind of confused before I remembered that there was a temporary (You) misattribution after that one downtime.
No.14000
Is it ok to dislike gays irl because they're cringe and hypersexual, but like them in anime/video games/novels?
>>13997Where is this from please tell me?
No.14001
>>13999I’ve been here from the beginning and I do that too sometimes. It makes me so nostalgic, but I also wonder how many of the anons I had conversations with have already moved on.
>>14000It’s from Slow Damage. Madarame’s euphoria (good) route.
No.14002
>>14000It's fine to dislike the cringe and hypersexual ones, but I've met a good helping of gay men that are normal and have average/low libidos.
No.14004
>>14000>Is it ok to dislike gays irl No
No.14005
>>14000>Is it ok to dislike gays irlYes
No.14007
>>14004stop it handmaiden, they are still men, most of them are hyper misogynistic
No.14008
>>14006Dang, it always sucks when something gets axed before it's prime, but hopefully you can channel the energy into something good like a fanwork.
Is it a BL or general series? You could cross your fingers for a revival in the future.
No.14009
>>14007Not all gays are men, and hating men is not an excuse for homophobia, straight men are not any less mysogynistic or hypersexual
No.14010
>>14007Gay men and women have historically been allies. No point trying to fracture people like this really. BL is already in danger because retardo conservatice would rather jail people who write gay kissing than face their problems.
No.14011
>>14009>>14010>not an excuse for homophobiaSo you can hate all men but gay men have a pass because they like to get fucked in the ass? great logic
also nonas don't need an excuse to be homophobe, they can just be and that's that.
No.14013
>>14011How about you guys don't encourage this culture here. All this is gonna do is attract moids/soyjakfaggots here and shit up this site. Go be homophobic but dont post about it.
No.14014
I think being a homophobic fujoshi makes no sense like be a yume instead
No.14015
>>14013how come yurifags don't have to prove their alliances to lesbians all the time? yet women are slashed for just not caring
No.14016
>>14011It's ok to be mentally challenged but maybe /p0l/ would be a better place for you to find like-minded idvividuals nonnie.
No.14017
I ship AxB, which is the fandom's preference, but recently I've been thinking about BxA too and I think it's hot af. I wanna talk about it on my social media but I'm afraid that autistic fixed shippers are the majority and some of my followers might block me… ugghhh. BxA is still so fucking hot though.
No.14018
>>14011It's not always the ass. There's handjobs, blowjobs, frotting, dry humping and so much more all for our entertainment and pleasure.
No.14019
>>14013>So you can hate all men but gay men have a pass because they like to get fucked in the ass? Correct.
No.14020
>>14013The only moids this site is going to attract are the gays from /y/ and /cm/ who also hate women kek I'm pretty sure that sharty raid didn't happen because anons were homophobic…
>>14015Seriously. Saying fujos need to like irl gay men is like saying male yurifags and lesbian porn consumers should be lesbian rights activists. Or that CGDCT anime is feminist while BL is misogynistic and worships men. No one expects men to support the LGBT community for getting off to characters they're attracted to. It's just fiction.
No.14021
>>14020>Saying fujos need to like irl gay men is like saying male yurifags and lesbian porn consumers should be lesbian rights activistsHomophobic men who jerk off to lesbians have always been cringe and I'm pretty sure any sane woman thinks that, idk why'd you think that being a homophobic straight woman who jerks off to gays would somehow not be cringe. Fiction is different from irl, but openly calling yourself a homophobe and expecting people to pet you on the back for it is fascinating.
No.14022
>>14021Personally I think it's cringe to be a woman who jerks off to gays then insists there is an (un)ethical way to jerk off to them. Most BL isn't even trying to depict gays realistically. I'm a shotafag too but don't like irl children or pedophiles. Does this also make me a cringe hypocrite who should support NAMBLA?
No.14023
I really can tell who are the twitterites that just come here to complain about trannies but still love to "support queer men"(who all hate you) from these posts
No.14024
>>14021I enjoy being cringe.
No.14025
>>14023Trannies deserve to be dunked on in peace.
No.14027
>>14026Same, the "all men are scum" crowd need to fuck off back to lolcow. Keep your spergery away from my 2D men
No.14028
>>14026Same, the "not all men" crowd need to fuck off back to lolcow. Keep your spergery away from my 2D men
No.14029
>>14008It's a battle shounen (though I absolutely find the guys cute too.) One of those cases where I wish I were a drawfag rather than a writefag because I'd 100% be pumping out art of it til the end.
>revivalMore than likely not in the cards, sadly, but I'll wish the author the best and hope they can come back with a new series.
(Thank you for the Thorkell)
No.14031
>>14029>It's a battle shounenWhich one? I haven't keep up with WSJ and the other shonen magz for a while. Maybe I'll read it in my spare time. Even if it ended, you can always share your enthusiasm and convert more fans ♡
No.14033
>>14032>Alien Headbuttayrt
Wait..So this is how I learn AH got axed…?
That's too bad, I only read 2 chapters when it started but thought it was a fun series.
Definitely will add it to my readlist, especially since it ended that fast.
No.14074
>>14072I'm not interested in rp myself, but I do like the idea and I think it's worth a try.
No.14076
>>14075I just finished vol 6 and thought these two were kinda fruity. Good to know there's a little bit out there!
No.14084
>>14083I am the director and the cinematographer, not part of the cast!
No.14085
>>14083Anyone that insists you should only ever do a certain thing in a certain way is more concerned with presenting as being on the right team than they are anything else.
No.14086
>>14083People who self-insert most likely only interact with media in the most surface-level selfish way possible, like gluttony of consumption without any true enjoyment, eating for the sake of it.
Because how would you actually read books like, eg. mainstream example Crime and Punishment? "nooo I don't empathize with rodion I don't feel like reading, he's not relatable enough"
They don't. Their world consists only of themselves, and the character they like. Like those people whose entire personality are their boyfriends or husbands.
They only consume wattpad shit, play some games with femc options, and if there isn't a femc option they'll just literally insert themselves into the story anyway
No.14087
>>14083I wonder if it's insecurity around being a yume that causes them to say that.
No.14090
>>14088I don't want to work either. Be strong anon, it's almost payday.
No.14091
>>14090Yes!
>>14088 Think of all the figurines and doujins you can buy with your coming paycheck
No.14093
>>14092Frank Frazatta but gay… nona your mind…
No.14094
>>14093He did draw porn with some surpising focus on the male. Unfortunately it was some gross interracial/blacked bullshit.
No.14131
Hello, I admit I don't come here too often so idk if there are better threads to ask this, however I am a fujo looking for more fujo stuff and other fujos so hopefully it's ok! I wonder if anyone here would like to make a BL visual novel together? I can use ren'py, make some songs and art but I'd love to work together with someone on characters and story. I like pretty much everything so I don't even care about genre or tropes. I just want to make some fujo stuff with other fujos and it would be cool to publish a game!
I'm not too good at setting up servers or verification though so maybe someone else would need to do that.
No.14134
>>14132Omg thank you anon, I was looking for it but couldn't find it. I even posted in it a while ago, I'm stupid.
No.14149
Have you ever not cared about a ship in theory but then warmed up to it because an artist you like for a different ship started drawing it on the side? I'm experiencing that right now.
No.14150
>>14149I ship Ryan Gosling and that piece of rock thanks to some artists I admire and because nonnas on here like it. I have never seen project hail mary.
No.14152
>>14149Science Boyfriends (Iron Man/Hulk) was the designated third wheel ship when Loki and Steve are unavaible so I've cone to enjoy it through exposure.
I can't think of a ship that I've come to love through an unrelated artist drawing it, but there are series I otherwise wouldn't have checked out if artist I liked didn't get into them, Golden Kamuy being a big one.
No.14153
>>14149Not quite the same but I did end up falling in love with a rarepair from a JRPG series that was drawn by a few JP artists back in the day. The art convinced me. Completely unheard of ship in NA fandom.
No.14154
>>14149A person I like to keep eyes on because we share a few ships helped nudge me into Kakyoin/Polnareff. It didn't take much tbh since I already enjoyed their goofy canon interactions, but the art she rt'd definitely didn't hurt.
No.14157
>>14150Listen to the easily pirated audiobook. Watch the movie when you have time. Understand that seeing that rock alien's guzzling anus is a real moment of intimacy that Ryan Gosling did not appreciate for its true worth.
No.14158
>>14157Don't forget where
Grace thinks to himself he wants to see Rocky lay eggs, aka jack off! I do have to wonder if the author was aware of what he was writing or he was just like "he's thinking this out of scientific curiosity ONLY". I hc on the trip back since Rocky was embarrassed eating and shitting in front of Grace, he forces Grace to return the favor. I'm not into scat but I like the idea of them exploring each other's bodies. Even though it sadly always have to be through a xenonite barrier.
Also Grace saying he would let Rocky perform heart surgery on him… No.14159
>>14158Man this made me realize what my problem with all the fisting porn is. Ignoring that I'm not really that interested in seeing Ryan Gosling's sweaty balls, I haven't seen anything that focuses on a voyeur aspect to them getting off. I'm sure there's probably fics out there if I look, but all the drawn porn I've seen has been some degree of mouthing or penetration with a xenonite dental dam/condom. It really should be about trying to perform in front of someone watching your every move, especially with how sheepish Grace would be. Several years of getting berated by a scary space monster whenever his breathing gives him away from half a ship apart and he's coming out of this with some strange kinks.
No.14160
>>14159>with all the fisting porn isThank god I'm not seeing any of that LMAO.
>voyeur aspect to them getting off.Yes same! The first tag I looked up after I finished PHM was masturbation because I found that they couldn't actually touch each other (ik I posted a fanart of them being able to but I just did that bc it has Rocky's book design, I actually think that they can't touch each other is such an underutilized trope!) I also like that there's the plausible deniability of it being for science for both of them not to mention the research that mentions (and is the reason why the HM's astronauts were originally in comas) that humans would probably go crazy stuck together in those circumstances for several years so I imagine at some point Grace starts losing his mind and Rocky is desperate to keep him from losing his shit both mentally and physically (since he has to rely on the taumoebae for food) so the boundaries between platonic/sexual begin to blur.
>xenonite dental dam/condomWHERE'S THE FROTTING, WHERE'S THE MUTUAL MASTURBATION, WHERE'S MAKING AN INVENTION JUST SO THEY CAN HAVE INTERCRURAL SEX. Penetration or oral can be so overrated sometimes.
>he's coming out of this with some strange kinksYES!!! Your brain is so big, Rocky has great hearing and before on their mission I'm sure Rocky was too polite or too ignorant to say anything while they lived together! Now with his access to all of Earth's knowledge and the exasperation that can result from rooming with someone without having a mission to distract you, he is very uncomfortable with Grace's Weird Noise Made In The Excretion Room. Not to mention Grace's sheepishness and him slowly losing his mind. Nona I love you.
No.14174
Seeing all the posts above… for how bleak the future looks with gacha domination I appreciate that people are a lot more willing to just openly ship weird stuff, especially involving non-humanoid characters. I can't imagine something like that taking off 15 years ago.
No.14176
>>14174> I can't imagine something like that taking off 15 years ago.I think people were more willing to ship "weird" things before. Remember that people shipped Bill Cypher with Dipper and Bill is a literal fucking triangle. Oncecest, etc.
On a tangentially related matter, am I the only one that feels that people have been treating shipping too much as a stand-in for what they want in a relationship or have been twisting almost any ship into always being vanilla and domestic even if they aren't?
I feel like there's less people shipping weird ships or ships that simply would feel interesting dynamic-wise even if they wouldn't be the best romantic partners.
As if shipping has to equal a healthy loving domestic relationship, yknow?
Maybe it's me because in my fandom, there's a hero-villian pair that quite literally don't interact with each other all that much and don't really care about each other that much but people love to make them domestic, fluffy AUs, "powercouple", acting completely ooc from their original selves.
No.14177
>>14176Funnily enough I actually happened to stumble upon the complete opposite today where a JP artist ships the Pokemon ORAS male MC with Steven except that Steven is a full blown kidnapper yandere in these artworks while in canon he's just a regular guy with completely neutral interactions with MC. I get the impression that JP artists are more likely to shoehorn in a yandere dynamic while western artists shoehorn in domestic qualities.
No.14178
>>14176Bill was usually humanized though or rendered as blipper. It's the same thing with people who were big Wheatley fans, while on-model fans existed it wasn't the default. Project Hail Mary fans are intriguing to me because I haven't seen a single humanized version of Rocky, it's cool.
You bring up onecest, but I think one of the big reasons that took off is precisely because people weren't willing to ship him with the Lorax because that'd be "weird", and there were no other characters to ship him with (though I remember a few time-travel works with Ted.)
>On a tangentially related matter, am I the only one that feels that people have been treating shipping too much as a stand-in for what they want in a relationship or have been twisting almost any ship into always being vanilla and domestic even if they aren't?That or 2edgy garbage where a characteris inexplicably a rapist for no reason. There are some people who find a dynamic they like and then just write every couple the same exact way regardless of the characters. While I'm of the firm belief that every ship has the potential to be domestic or dark depending on what you choose to focus on, it's pretty obvious when an author just decides to ignore problematic or boring elements of a character to do what they want.
No.14179
>>14176>>14177>I the only one that feels that people have been treating shipping too much as a stand-in for what they want in a relationshipIve seen it too, more so the yandere stuff. Its annoying when there are series that have the dynamics theyre looking for, but they never seem interested in opening up to new things and just stick to the same old Pokemon/Genshin/Shounen Jump stuff.
I guess its due to character design beign a priority and popularity.
No.14180
>>14178>Project Hail Mary fans are intriguing to me because I haven't seen a single humanized version of Rocky, it's cool.The main people that do tbh are closet RPFers and make human!Rocky look like his VA, and they have unfortunately been growing in numbers. But I am glad people are pushing back against it and calling it the coward's yaoi. I will say one good thing about the PHM fandom since I complain a bunch about them kek is that a lot of the "platonic" art is only platonic in name and is indistinguishable from romantic Grace/Rocky. Which just confirms to me people are just afraid to push back against popular fanon.
No.14181
>>14180>a lot of the "platonic" art is only platonic in name and is indistinguishable from romantic Grace/RockyI haven't seen the movie yet but I notice this kind of thing is really noticeable in other fandoms when a ship is considered odd or "problematic", there will be fanart where the characters will be kissing each other on the cheek and blushing but the artist will swear up and down that it's completely platonic and you're a terrible person if you ship them. It's always really obvious they ship it themselves but don't want to be harassed.
No.14182
>>14181My favourite version of this is when they're brothers kek
No.14183
>>14182That's my favorite too lmao. Like come the fuck on, real brothers don't kiss each other on the cheek and hold hands and blush, you aren't fooling anyone.
No.14184
>>14177nonnie, by chance do you have a link to this artist? you've got me curious.
No.14185
>>14182It's very funny whenever it happens in a fandom where the relationship with the most development in canon is between family members (FMA, DMC, Arcane, etc.). It's like, besides yumes and OC ships, wtf else are people going to ship? I'm always surprised at how much Elricest has died down but looking through the general FMA tags and I will see lovingly rendered art of their bond and little to none of Winry despite this artist's recorded history of being mainly a shipper in their other fandoms kek. I think it doesn't help fandoms are so extreme. If you ship any controversial ship, effectively your only audience from then on will only be other "pro-shippers" who most of the time are just as guilty as being OOC as "anti-shippers" except with way more noncon and who are very annoying at competing with each other for being the biggest edgelord.
No.14186
>>14184@dLhUmzwggz97612
The funny part is that I found this artist through a recent series of cutesy sad pokopia comics so yandere steven was like a jumpscare, kek.
No.14188
>>14185This is definitely one of the reasons why readerfic and selfinsert seems to be everywhere now. The dedicated slash shippers will usually latch onto the nearest male character who is in the appropriate age range and is non-related, whether or not he has interacted with the guy they want to ship him with. These ships end up becoming my NOTP fast even if there is something in the dynamic that I think could be interesting, because that's never what I'm going to see.
No.14189
>>14188Yeah… I've read a few Main Guy/Closest Breathing Male that I enjoyed, but by and large it's horrible. Thor and Loki have the most tension, but that's icky—ship him with Iron Man. DMC is the funniest version of this, because people shipped Dante with Nero to avoid incest with Vergil, because when 4 came out, they were only distantly related. Then 5 released (well, that Japanese novel released first, but there was no translation for ages), and suddenly bam! Retroactive incest!
I wish people could write OCs better. I'd read Interesting Male OC/Main Guy in a heartbeat. It's much better than the alternative.
No.14190
>>14189Don't forget people shipping Nero and V before the game was released just because they aren't related… until it turned out to be even worse than the other gay ships because of V's real identitty kek. And Itsuno gave no fuck and liked Nero/V almost nsfw art on twitter before DMC5's release date which tricked everyone into believing they weren't related.
No.14209
I just saw someone call a canon hetero couple an "Industry plant ship" and it greatly amused me. Your safe official pair will never have the most fanworks.
No.14210
>>14209Is Buffy the only case where it did? I have not checked in on the fandom since perhaps the 90's
No.14215
>>14210Twilight and Hunger Games both spring to mind. The post I saw was referring to a DC pairing though, which is completely different than series which are marketed as Het romances.
No.14220
>>14218I could never, because if For You shows me my NOTP it puts me in a bad mood for days.
No.14224
>>14223Draw the frames for a fan-made anime opening.
No.14226
>>14225You can learn hangul in an hour anon.
Here.
http://letslearnhangul.com/ No.14227
>>14226Yeah? I'll give it a shot, thank you!
No.14233
>>14232>every notp shipper I scroll past also has proship dni in their bioI thought of krbk before I even finished your post lmao. To me they are the poster child of this phenomenon.
No.14234
I have a hard time articulating why but it feels weird when a they/them girlie youtuber like Izzzyzzz makes a video essay about misogyny.
No.14239
>>14234Having her cake and eating it too? It really does feel, more than usual, like that iteration of thembie doesn't actually buy into the trans thing, and it's just a fashion accessory. It makes it even more irritating when they start crybullying about it—they don't believe it, but you have to.
No.14244
Heard about the new drama going on with Love and deepspace. These yumes are unreal, kek.
No.14249
>>14244what's going on, is it the new ugly li?
No.14253
>>14249>>14244>straight up get a character deleted from the game and all future prospects of new characters just because they thought he looked gayand people still think yume and fujo friendship can still be a thing lmao
No.14260
thinking about that tweet where somebody called the Nakamura anime the Heartstopper for weebs. they are not wrong if you ask me.
No.14261
>>14260the manga is cute, the author should have put in more fanservice to filter annoying people
No.14262
>>14260The Heartstopper for weebs was Sasaki to Miyano imo they have the same purity freakouts over the second couple's seme. I think the anime did try to appeal to that crowd but the author's taste still shines through, besides it's more of a SOL comedy than actual romance yet you know people are getting their hopes up it will be mutual (we don't know for sure but hasn't the author drawn the crush with the teacher? Cucked by sensei kek)
No.14264
>>14262>but hasn't the author drawn the crush with the teacher?I don't remember where on fujochan it was shared but there was a statement on twitter by the anime production company or something where it was mentioned that Syundei requested the anime to be censored and that the anime doesn't condone student/teacher relationships but it's in there because it's a BL trope. It sounds like Syundei actually caved to the antis and wants to distance herself from that drawing, unfortunately.
No.14265
>>14259He is more buff than the other guys and wears leather… I guess it's rare to see a guy like this in otome games? Still, crazy that all the money they must have spent on making, promoting and voicing this guy now goes down the drain because the fanbase threw a shitfit.
No.14266
>>14259Too dark skinned, China hates brown skin of any kind.
Too muscular, ergo he must be gay. China hates muscular men that can't be identified as women with broad shoulders.
Which is hilarious because his face looks like somebody attached one of those pale anime heads onto a gi joe figure.
No.14267
>>14263this just shorthand for "tumblrbrained vns" tag kek
No.14268
>>14264Considering her past manga I'm very surprised she went out of her way to request that. There are so many BL authors who make cookie-cutter fluffy romances nowadays (not complaining– I like those too) but her past stuff has always been very different from that. Was she trying to turn a new leaf to become more palatable for a Western audience considering how big of an art meme Nakamura came to be so she could profit off of that? Which cynically makes sense I guess, who wouldn't want to make bank by just writing a SOL comedy so they can get their other works published. It's a shame she deleted her socmed and who knows when Nakamura will update again and what will become of the storyline? When these situations happen I get why some fujos don't like marketing their stuff as strictly BL bc fujos (esp western ones) can be entitled when the story doesn't go as expected.
No.14274
I'm at the point where anytime someone posts/brings up C.S. Lewis' quote about friendship/eros I immediately get a bit annoyed.
No.14290
>>14285Is that the quote nonna is referencing? I thought she meant the one about male friendship. Four Loves is actually an interesting book but it's predicated on your interest in reading about the topic from a Christian perspective, I don't think you'd get much out of it from a secular viewpoint.
Lewis' best work is obviously Narnia and I'm mad that every adaptation has failed to capture the world. We could have had an Edmund/Peter timeline.
No.14309
>Video "The Pity Yuri Phenomenon"
>Click
>Whining about how few F/F ships are popular.
>Most of the video is complaining about the ship tags being for background pairings and general lack of content.
>Check the links in the description, click around find Ao3.
>49 stories
>2 F/F
Every time.
No.14311
>>14309Obnoxious behavior. Literally just write it. Be the change, etc.
No.14312
>>14309Share the video I wanna see for myself.
No.14313
>>14312https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZb7lbUD1nkI didn't finish it, bailed when the Homestuck avatar started talking about Mob Psycho 100. The Ao3 link is in the Ko-fi linked in the description.
I thought it was going to be about how showrunners performatively put in lesbian side characters they don't care about to shallowly appeal to yurifags because of the Charlie/Vaggie in the thumbnail, but no it's fandom bitching. If you aren't even going to contribute to the ships you care about then you've lost the right to complain.
No.14318
>>14313>Mob Psycho 100I don't feel like watching the video, what were they saying about it? There's not many major female characters besides the MC's crush, the club leader obsessed with aliens, the journalist, etc. and they mainly play a role in the background and not much of the actual action. Why would anyone use that as an example of a fandom ignoring the relationships between female characters when we barely even see those characters interact kek. It's gotten to a point where genderbending the yaoi/het ships to become yuri is more common in that fandom than any actual yuri ship.
No.14321
>>14318"Male characters who don't interact much get content why can't female characters who don't interact much get content."
Again if these people actually cared they'd write their own stories, but you're correct fingerwagging about MP100 in particular is stupid. M/M fans keep winning even in fandoms that aren't male character dominated because we actually write our stupid infeasible ships, if you want to get your foot in the door then do the same.
No.14323
>>14321That *is* dumb, like you said fujos are more likely to create mountains out of molehills simply because that is what they're used to doing and how shipping fandom persists even after a work is completed. Their imagination & collaboration in a fandom despite the basis in the actual work is part of the enjoyment (and sometimes to my chagrin but I still respect them for it). But idk what about MB100 would attract those REALLY into female characters, like yes fujos have a predisposed attitude but it's not like there's even many bones thrown to hetfags or waifufags so why would they watch it? Only fujos, dudebros, or normal fans would be watching it and only the first group makes a lot of fan content.
But also its doubly dumb because MB100 is perfect bait for the broad spectrum of fujos (age-gap, incest, same-age, etc.) AND
it doesn't even end with the MC getting with his crush and he's still single so there's even room to expand on those relationships afterwards. This is like wondering why shipping the LIs together in a romance media is rare…
No.14324
>>14321>wow no matter how much we keep shilling yuri, women still navigate towards yaoi/het content no matter what>could it be? that the majority of women are straight and they like cocks?>noooo nono impossible all women are queer queenshow can they keep coping like this, straight men never look at themselves and say
>bro there is too much straight and yuri hentai where is the bara?why
just why
No.14325
Does anyone else remember that YoI toilet doujinshi? It suddenly popped up in my head again. I first read it in 8th grade and I had nightmares because of it afterwards kek. Unfortunate how the author got mega harassed because of it though.
No.14326
>>14325I do. I only read it because anons were making a fuss about it on LC/other ib some years ago… It was fine, didn't leave me traumatized or anything.
Then again, I only watched the first ep of YoI and dropped it, so I guess if you like Victor/Victuuri I can see why it could mess you up. I expected worse kek, I ended up disappointedReally sad for the author indeed.
No.14327
>>14326Yeah rereading it now, it's not too crazy but it scared the shit out of me back then since I was at most only acquainted with yaoi-typical "uke gets sexually assaulted but likes it eventually" shenanigans. I'm surprised there was such an uproar over it though. From my memory when YoI came out, fandom was still at the early beginnings of anti/proship/"problematic" discourse so I thought that it would've been given Boku no Pico/Henshin treatment, not people going out of their way to directly attack the author.
No.14328
>>14321>>14309>whining about ao3 numbers for fics that they don’t even plan on reading anywaysthese types just want an excuse to preach and moralize. they’re never in any f/f majority fandoms and they absolutely never read or watch any original yuri works either. this one in particular getting assmad about people not shipping the literal *backround* characters together is hilarious
No.14329
>>14327I vaguely remember YoI being one of those things that was deemed ~true and honest queer representation~ and not ~icky fujo yaoi~ so I could see the people who truly believed that to think an edgy doujin is a hatecrime.
No.14335
>>14329they do this “not like other BL” thing with every single gay series that gets popular. it’s like a collective amnesia
No.14337
>>14335It doesn't help that some of those series aren't BL tho. Like YOI, StM (why her publishers told her to market it as Boys' Life instead when the gay stuff motivates most of the plot and pretty much only fujos will read it, I will never understand), the Summer Hikaru Died, etc. because they aren't categorized as such and are ever so slightly different it does unfortunately help enforce the separation between BL and gay/queer (ugh) media. And the Hikaru mangaka retweeted something calling it the latter so. Doesn't help as well.
No.14338
>>14337> And the Hikaru mangaka retweeted something calling it the latter soIIRC, it was an attempt to distance herself from BL so she'd get a more mainstream audience. I believe that initially, Hikaru was much more obviously a BL.
No.14339
>>14338Yeah it was some anon compiled evidence on the other board that it was tagged as a BL and then got removed later and she tried to pretend that it never was despite the word BL and Hikaru being used in some advertising for it (I think for the anime?)But even the first chapter is so BL-y I know it does have a general audience now but it is funny the things you can get dudebros to watch as long as it's "labeled" shonen / seinen.
No.14342
>>14321Why are they buying clothes in the soup store? More importantly what the fuck even, there IS a yuri ship in Claw who'd die for each other in canon, you just don't find them attractive enough to ship, dumbass. That's why the only big yuri ship going for it is Reigen and Mob in drag, followed by jokes about the schoolgirls cucking Mob. Fujos will bend over backwards to ship ugly old men for their moe points, yumes will prop up a man with a face like a rotting zucchini, but yuributa tend to favor the pretty princesses and the handsome princes, so their choice of Plain Jane side characters is greatly diminished. There's a Korean series I'm reading and the fandom had a shock when the manwha adaptation reached one of the yuri ships, because newcomers all started screeching about how gross and ugly a woman was for being over thirty and having short hair. The fujo fandom was happy to pair the spares and make every character gay, but the wider audience couldn't handle someone who wasn't a model.
No.14343
>>14337I’ve even seen people try to do this with series that are officially labeled as BL. it’s bizarre and annoying but nlogs gonna nlog
No.14344
>>14342>The fujo fandom was happy to pair the spares and make every character gay, but the wider audience couldn't handle someone who wasn't a model.Right? I know fujos have a bad rep for pairing any two guys who breathe next to each other, but at least when we get obsessed with bland backgrounder/elderly man, we write 50k of fic about and start drawing doujinshi. I don't think I've ever read f/f fic with ugly or old women, aside from maybe some western femslash.
No.14345
>>14342what manhwa is it?
No.14361
Apparently women in my city just hate period cups cause I can't find a drugstore in my area that sells them. Every other menstrual product is here. Even the period panties which I never understood because I thought the whole point of menstrual products was to not bleed into your underwear. I get that the point is that they're more absorbent and washable but that seems more inconvenient than other options.
No.14363
>>14361I have no idea what the appeal of period panties is. I can take a pad off and pitch it when it gets bloody and clotty. Am I just supposed to change underwear six times a day?
No.14364
>>14363>>14361Period panties are good if you just stay at home and don't plan to go out. I sleep just fine when I wear one, and when I use a pad I bleed too much I just have to wake up and change my pad and sometimes my clothes as well. I assume this is also how you're supposed to use cups, I don't see myself spending nearly 10 hours in my work place and a bit more than that outside if you count commuting and errands without emptying a cup. I've never tried using one but I've been told to just empty it, wash it and put it back inside but who the hell does that in a public restroom shared with coworkers and other companies? So for me it's pads for when I'm outside and period panties when I'm back home.
No.14371
>>14345GSGW. To give further context - when the character first appears she's confident, cruel, and doesn't think much of killing 'fodder' employees to survive, but she's not villainously stupid and stops when told it's detrimental. Commenters first assumed she had to be a man, then complained about her looks when told she wasn't. Her behavior played a part in the reactions for sure, some people blamed that for why they called her ugly, but the same arc introduces a researcher who gets off on sending people to die and he's a fandom darling since before we knew he was hot. The setting is a company that sends people into what's often death games to retrieve magic juice, if anything her practicality and mental fortitude is admirable and deserving of the meme label 'bad bitch', but she dared to have short hair and a round face. Looking at her again she looks kinda like a genderbent Kaiji character and you know fujos would ship that, morality be damned.
>>14364Sleeping makes sense. I use washable cotton pads at night and it has totally saved me from sore skin compared to before. I don't know about wearing period panties in the day though because I don't trust the blood not to leap out the sides and get on my legs, and like the other nona says it'd be like sitting on a wet patch for hours if you didn't change. I use winged pads because there's a little extra protection holding any sudden surges back. I'm amazed every time there's blood going round onto the sides of the wings but none got on my pants.
Yeah I could never handle a cup in a public restroom either, I'd accidentally spill on my hands and then have to open the stall door to get to the sink. And I guarantee it'll be how I find out I bleed more than a cup's worth in several hours.
No.14372
>>14371I sent this then realized I'm confusing some of her actions with the younger woman she's shipped with but nobody hated the younger woman like that because she's pretty and has long hair. Long haired girls can be toxic as a treat.
No.14373
>>14371No offense but
>see gsgw finally mentioned on fc>oh nea->its complaining about fandom drama yuri shippingDamn lol.
Someone asked though so it makes sense.
No.14375
>>14344>know fujos have a bad rep for pairing any two guys who breathe next to each other, but at least when we get obsessed with bland backgrounderIt's not a fujo thing, women in general get obsessed with something due to it's "aesthetics" or "vibe".
Look at examples like Saya from saya no uta, it became an insanely popular character despite 90% of the fans never even have played the game, just due to her aesthetics .
It's all based on aesthetics.
No.14376
>>14375That's stupid in general and it's not just a woman thing, plenty of men for instance joke about just reading the doujins for gacha games because it's the "real plot." You can also link it to people who are big fans of characters like Morrigan and Chun-li even though they don't play fighting games.
It's retarded though, I despise these fake fans who refuse to engage with the source material. Even if you don't end up liking all of a show or you suck at a game if you care about a character you should invest time into at least getting to know them beyond the "aesthetic" or devaluing them to being just a spankbank. Best case scenario you end up finding another character you like from the same work.
Play Saya no Uta nonna, it's great and only like 4 hours.
No.14377
>>14376I did play saya no uta but I did not like it actually kek
No.14379
My friends who don't know anything about fujo culture keep sending me memes and jokes about mpreg, I don't like that fetish. I curse social media for making it so mainstream.
No.14380
>>14377>>14376I liked Saya no Uta a reasonable amount, I ended up liking Ryouko a lot more than Saya though, shame she doesn't get much love
No.14385
I'm going to Japan Expo tomorrow but I'm not in Paris so I have to wake up early to go to the train station. I hope everything will be fine. It's the first time I won't really pay attention to the artist alley in a convention because I'll go there for just one day and I have to make sure I don't miss my train back home. To anons going to Japan Expo tomorrow please bring your 3DS with you if you have one, I'll take mine, I have a shit ton of puzzle pieces if you're interested in streetpass.
No.14386
>>14385I hope you and other anons that go to Japan Expo have a nice time!
No.14387
>>14385I think it sucks that the Switch/Switch 2 has no equivalent of Streetpass
No.14389
>>14386So far things aren't going as planned but it@s decent:
>wanted to meet Ogeretsu Takana and have something signed but it was already too late as soon as the con opened because the ones who managed to get tickets got in here earlier with a fast pass or something>tried the lottery to get something signed by Soejima and Wada from Atlus and lost but I forgot to take my copy of P4G on the PS Vita anyway so whatever>will be able to meet Kotteri and get something signed by her but this will happened at the exact same time when the guys from Atlus will talk about the P4 remakeI was curious as to what the artist alley looks like but I don't feel lile buying anything anyway.
>>14387I know the Switch is less convenient to take everywhere but I also wish it had its own Streetpass. I met a few people with my 3DS so far and even completed a puzzle in the Mii plaza.
No.14397
>>14389I'm beat, I'll post an update tomorrow. I took a cold shower and I'm so tired because of the heat once I left the convention center that one of my eyes looks red and feels weird. I'll post something in the Persona thread as well, because I somehow managed to go to the panel with the Persona devs before it was too late even if I missed the beginning.
No.14398
I really like boring slice-of-life animanga. Wish there were more BL or fujobait iyashikei series that felt like Non Non Biyori or something