/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>5288
I hate being the type of fujo that doesn't like romance series so I stick to seinen, shounen and original anime which is fine per se, but unless it's a pure sausage fest that filters 100% of all otaku you always have to share the threads with loud, aggressive coomers and their stupid harem and loli rape fantasies and aren't allowed to post freely about fujo shit since it might trigger them.

Big KUDOS to creators of series like Golden Kamuy and Bravern that filter these shitters hard. The only threads I genuinely enjoy posting into outside of FC.

Maybe not a fujo-specific concern, but I hate that doujinshi culture never really took off for English speakers. I buy and enjoy zines, but it'd be cool to purchase more physical fancomics.

>>5296
I feel the exact same way. I'm making my own right now (slowly) but I would like to by some from others myself… I personally just find them cooler.

Not really a vent. I wish there was more thriller/horror movies about men kidnapping men, caging them in basement or bedroom with collars on their neck/limb. The amount of women in basement trope should be balanced with equally pretty guys. Where even to find them???

I wish I could go back to 2016/2017 and assassinate whoever invented the pro/anti discourse so that I can ship my beautiful anime boys in peace without having to worry about teenagers sending me death threats. Take me back to the times where everything wasn't so black and white and when everything didn't have labels or names.

>>5296
I know I can just make my own doujin and post it on the internet but the social aspect of printing your work of passion and selling it at a con and meeting other people who like your work, as well as browsing other people's work, is what I wish I could experience.
The fact that most doujins are never reprinted or put online and stay physical only and limited to the eyes of a few people though, that's the only part I don't like. I would happily put all of mine online when they were done selling, but most people don't do that.

Why is fujoing as a hobby so expensive? I wanna to import raws. I want to take three trips to Japan a year. I wanna to learn the language. I want to buy 2 million doujinshi offline and online. Then there's merch, official and fan-made.

I want a well-paying job so I can indulge in English and Japanese hard copies at least.

>>5296
God this. I wish I could participate in non-English zine events they are way less toxic and annoying and I want to see different cultures and people. I am German but participated in a Russian zine event some years ago and it had TOP tier artist. Way better roster than the US ones. So many talented people we motivated each other and two fans and I ended up drawing three artworks instead of one because that's how fun it was even though we could barely communicate.

I want this more often. Maybe it's just my fandoms but I have the issue that US artists either simply DON'T EXIST for the series I love even if it's a big hit in Asia or the English artists largely suck ass. Like I am sorry I don't want to be mean. But you know the "tumblr style" meme? It's mainly this.

>>5296
Printing services in the US aren't as accesible like japanese printing services are, they want to treat you like a renowed magazine/book publisher with a MOQ of 100 copies instead of just being able to have 10 copies to bring to a con.
Zines are kind of treated as "products", in which you need to have so many "mods" and "finances" and whatever else compared to Doujinshi which can be low-effort and printed in very low quantities, but it's a 'everyone can do it' sort of thing. Zines tend to build cliques around them or that you must be a well-known artist/writer to participate which goes against what Doujinshi are imo.

>>5299
I remember how Ovan/Haseo were the first characters I actively shipped and drew and I sometimes wonder if I would have gotten shit for it if it wasn't 2007-2009 because Ovan was an adult of 26 years and Haseo 17 at the beginning. I am even convinced that they made him turn 18 in the games on purpose so that you can ship him with adults without issue but he's way less mature than Ovan so the age gap feels bigger and I bet this would have been an issue for antis, especially since Ovan was playing the role of the backstabber and antagonist for most of the story.
>>5301
I wish doujinshi and merch buying was easier and wouldn't always need you to resort to a forwarder and type in a Japanese address and all that shit.
Ordering from Mandarake is so chill because you don't need to do it but they only sell second hand dj.

>>5296
I wish every LCS in America had a section for "fandom" stuff and could double as a fandom/fujo gathering place. I also like to buy zines but I have so few because like >>5304 says the collaborative nature of them means there could be an artist or two you don't like (also they are way more expensive/involved than jp doujins like >>5305 says, so I can't buy them willy-nilly). There have been a lot more indie books/comics/games in the past decade and I hope that opens up doors for cheaper physical print for everybody. IIRC selling doujins at/around cost is what keeps them safe in that grey area.

>>5307
>I wish every LCS in America had a section for "fandom" stuff and could double as a fandom/fujo gathering place
Now this would be an idea to keep these things from dying. Not America but there is a nearby Yu-gi-Oh fan place that was formerly a merchandising shop which is very popular and full of YGO fans that meet there every day to play cards. Imagine something fujos but combined with a manga/comic store.
One of our manga shops has a second floor with a few seats and you always see people chilling there and talking, but it's too small for a group.

Anyway I absolutely want fandom stuff. There was a shop here that sold some doujinshi once but it closed ages ago and I in manga shops I strangely only saw a Made in Abyss fan anthology so far. They should do this with other series.

>>5291
as much as it annoys me to be in the same proximity as them, i do get some sick vindictive joy out of pissing off scrotes who whine about fujos ruining everything but have no issue with ooc hentai slop of their waifus; shipping is only bad if it doesnt make their dick hard it seems. i especially love telling them to eat shit rather than act meek like they expect and call out them out for their shallow tastes of the media they vehemently 'defend' from the fujoshi menace (when said fujoshi menace invests more time and care into the show)
I will draw your self projection badass mc taking dick up the ass and moaning like a girl, seethe and kys
stupid moid.

>>5311
I get it. If you think about it, when you live rent free in someone's brain you hold power over that person.

>>5311
It's a good attitude. They need more backlash that is just obvious enough to convey the message but not extreme enough to derail.
It's almost comical how bad their characters usually are. Even canonically. Most mangaka that write a girl into a story for fanservice don't waste a single thought on her personality, they are never written as characters but cardboard cutouts to pacify coomers. So it annoys me how easy they are attracted because otaku have zero standards. It just has to have a female body and maybe a personality that isn't too masculine to distract or confuse them and they coom and cry WAIFU.

Compare that to fujos where even most actual fujo shows flop because they sparkling bishounen weren't charismatic enough. And then you get some absolute weirdo that nobody expected to blow up and he's the hit because he's written in a way that you would even love him if he was a grandma (albeit not sexually).
It's frustrating because you don't have to put any effort into writing women because the stupid fanbase doesn't need it they mainly care about pictures.

When I am into a series with mixed cast today and google art it's always 80%+ men drawn by fujos and the rest is almost without exception AI trash or template coomer art with off-model and OOC characters with ahegao cumming to the penis of some fat faceless dude lmao
Why can't men ship? At least draw art of the girl having sex with the male MC wtf is the problem?

>>5331
>Why can't men ship? At least draw art of the girl having sex with the male MC wtf is the problem?
Even when they do draw a canon male with a waifu they usually give him the faceless mob treatment. The ugly bastard fetish is about humiliation/corruption kink. It's not like faceless mob ojisans or monsters raping male characters doesn't exist but it's more common with fujos who are hardcore into a specific guy bottoming. I think most men just don't care about a relationship dynamic and only want to see the waifu getting fucked. If they ship her it's with the guy they selfinsert as, but they don't care about their actual relationship other than maybe some generic housewife domestic life as a leadin to sex. Lots of dudes with impregnation kink but never thinking about how they will raise their ten+ kids or make the cash to support them.

>>5331
>Why can't men ship?
There are some guys who ship but they usually come in three flavors
>Yurifag who's probably the closest to a fujo
>Waifufag who only 'ships' because he wants his waifu to win, if she doesn't he copes about how he actually wasn't self inserting the whole time and she's for him not the self insert protagonist anyway
>2PUREfag who's obsessed with insanely basic shounen slop ships like Deku and Uraraka, despite being obsessed with 'pure hetero love' they're by far the most insane of the three

>>5333
Straight male yurifags who don't want any men involved are the rarest kind, I think. Most commonly you get the guy who just wants a threesome with the two girls, or is only interested in yuri if it's futa, i.e, if there's a dick involved. They're pretty much a direct parallel to 'fujos' who exclusively read and write PiV.

>>5337
>Straight male yurifags who don't want any men involved are the rarest kind
Hot take but I think actual full on yurifag men are kinda gap moe (could just be from reading this manga though)
>or is only interested in yuri if it's futa
I honestly think this one is the most common nowadays kek.

>>5339
I agree it's moe, I think the obsession with guys being 'cucks' over liking yuri seems like a very western thing and Japanese men might be less likely to have the same hangups. There have been plenty of big male dominated yuri fandoms like Touhou but all the western fandom yuri stuff is made by women as far as I've seen.

>>5340
I think it's some weird projection thing, a lot of guys (and some girls) who call yurifags cucks also call fujos cucks for the same reason.

>>5340
>>5341
Cuckshit in general seems pretty western. You never see the east whine about ntr save the few that go global like that one Love and deepspace drama with the bl ban or when some gacha incels went apeshit over their waifu talking to another man. Personally, I never liked ntr apart from a few edge cases but the amount of westerners seething over this shit made me realize why the few yurifags that do exist end up trooning out. They're black and white receptors can't perceive nuance so therefore they must be a girl in order to like yuri–sounds retarded but that's my guess.

>>5341
It's always self-inserters doing this. Whenever I talk to someone who holds this viewpoint, they call fujos/yurifags cucks on the basis of…us not wanting to self-insert and make the romance revolve around ourselves. They're genuinely unable to understand how to engage with fiction without warping it around your own self. They can't even fathom being an observer, so they equate it to cuckoldry.

>>5342
Japan maybe (though even then I've seen them drop games when they start pandering more to a demographic they don't like), Chinese people definitely complain about that though.
>They're black and white receptors can't perceive nuance so therefore they must be a girl in order to like yuri–sounds retarded but that's my guess.
It tracks. If your mind is already that schizo then trooning out probably seems like a good idea.
>>5343
It's so weird to me, I get that some people ALWAYS need to self insert in a piece of media but to then write off people who don't need to self insert in everything they read/watch as cucks? What are they on kek.

>>5342
>>5344
I believe it's because of there is still a stigma with cartoons in many western countries. I witnessed a lot of anons and casual anime/cartoon watchers telling me that they wouldn't watch a serious anime because they watch anime for different reasons than live action. They take the latter seriously, but nothing that is animated.
It baffled me at first, but I heard so many saying this that I must accept that's a common thing. And it explains a LOT.

Most of these people basically claim that 2D can never be good, so you watch it for wish-fulfillment, "ironic" fun or as guilty pleasure trash the same way normalfags are watching horrible casting shows. Fanservice, dumb jokes and other bullshit. I believe that self-insert fags are a similar type, albeit nerdier.
They only view anime as quick way to pacify one specific urge, like how hentai doesn't need a story, it only has to help you getting off. They deem shit like self-insert pandering the sole purpose of anime, so they get mad if they didn't get served what they allegedly ordered. And they think everybody else was the same as them, because they cannot imagine that some people out there are actually taking anime and comics seriously.

I'm disappointed this wasn't a rape scene.

>>5299
Same. Everything gradually got worse around 2014/2015 in fandoms but then the internet as a whole became unbearable in 2016 because of the US elections and it never got better.

>>5301
I plan yet another trip to Japan next summer but after that I'll stop for a few years because that's expensive, even with the weak yen. What's annoying me the most is that now that I finally make money and the pandemic is fully over it's not possible to buy anything on toranoana with visa anymore. So when I wanted money to indulge in my hobbies I was broke and now that I'm not broke anymore I can't even buy things I want anyway.

>I wanna to import raws.
Buying digital copies of manga online in Japanese could be a cheap option with the weak yen, depending on what currency you have. I don't do it because I don't feel like spending money on a e-reader but sometimes I consider it just so I can have less physical books.

Do you ever feel like someone has it out for you in anonymous threads, but the way in which they are is just replying to every post you make saying something you posted is shitty/ugly/unfunny/not gay? When you're trying to tell people about a show you really like but this one guy won't stop replying to say "it's shit" over and over?

The random thoughts thread made me realize it, because I wanted to gripe that other fujos will tell me "I don't get how anyone likes that, they're ugly", like that's the only value a show can have. When I think about the past week though, I've had people all over pulling this on me when I'm clearly posting something I'm invested in. What motivates them to try pissing in my custard? Are they that strongly opinionated on 2D boy shows that they have to tell people every time they see it that they personally disliked it? Don't start saying shit like "it's your fault for having bad taste" - no, you kindly fuck off for having so much anger over a show that's harmless. There's a billion anime of subpar quality out there that nobody is bitching about every time they're mentioned, so why are you finding the time and energy to be a spoilsport like this one in particular needs stamping out? Are you afraid that a single person in the universe is having fun? The fuck is your deal. I'm pretty sure I'm more confused by it than anything but my only vocab is frustration.

I get that some of it is men who see male cast shows as inherently inferior to female cast shows, that the shows with all girls serve a basic purpose even if they're shit. But when other fujos do this too it's stupid. Are you that offended by a character design for a guy you don't know anything about? Why do you need to start attacking the artist too? Is it just because I said it was hot? I guarantee I find some of your faves ugly too but I'm not going to spend more than a passing thought on that because I have my own things to enjoy.

>>5355
>Do you ever feel like someone has it out for you in anonymous threads
People already feel more comfortable being negative behind an internet screenname so being anonymous turns that feeling up to 11 for some.

>>5355
On anonymous boards it's usually one sperg that just seethes about a show or the fact that it's popular for some reason. Like you couldn't make Vinland Saga threads on /a/ for a year or so because some asshole was so dedicated to shit it up that it turned into a dumpster fire quickly. It's often the same person when you witness that.

I am honestly surprised that I never got hate for liking the wrong character designs though because the guys I like are usually ugly or weird as shit. Like actually weird, not some ikemen with scar or something kek

No idea how someone can be offended over a design though. I can only assume it's a rival shipper or someone that is mad about the popularity of a certain character within the fandom they/she frequent(s), but they way you talk about it makes it sounds like they don't even know it. Maybe mad about the popularity of your show then?

>>5355
I rarely get mean replies, even when I post something that's debatable or probably TMI
Not sure how much of it is luck, liking things no one else has strong feelings about, phrasing, or if my taste really is just That Good, but it's nice to not get ragged on
Maybe someone assumed from your tastes that you're someone they personally know and dislike, and are just vendettaposting? Idk