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Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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>>861 No.6183
I like het ships waifubros like (example bakemonogatari) at least they are dynamic, het ships yumejoshis like are usually the most abhorrent self insert ships ever, like man does everything for nice girl, rinse, repeat.
No.6184
>>6167I meant that it's almost always those two things, no in between. And I forgot to write it but it's always some office or school setting. In my experience they are rarely nuanced or creative like yaoi can be. There are exception, and there are also bad yaoi, but maybe because fujos make so much content compared to yurifags (and the ones making most of the content are males into porn) they also manage to shit out a larger number of good stories.
No.6185
>>6184For example, there isn't a yuri MADK, there isn't a yuri-leaning sports anime that has the same feel as Free!! or YOI (most yuri-leaning spots anime involve awful porny shit with gigantic tits and the girls being stuttering moaning idiots), we don't have yuri DMMD. I know good yuri exists (and it's often made by fujo authors) but it's not a lot. Or maybe I don't know where to look?
No.6187
>>6185cgdct is not explicitly yuri, most of them, but still is part of the moe culture where no man exist and the focus is the relationships with a full female cast. maybe ppl won't consider it yuri, but they have their own stuff something we get more rarely in anime and is more present under the otome side of the joseimuke umbrella
No.6188
>>6184The best yuri I've found are Korean Manhwa that's aimed at actual women. Or people making non-porn yuri content because they actually like it instead of virtue signaling. Female fans and Asian fandoms for shows that aren't meant for explicit yuri are better. I just make up my own content too. Yuri gives you the opportunity to have an equal relationship between two women outside of het stuff, I wish it just had the inherent popularity yaoi does among women. But most are straight despite how much gay larping there is on the internet
No.6190
>>6189Disabled boy dating sim would be awesome, though I would have been happy if Kenji got his route like originally planned.
No.6191
I love fujochan and I'm glad it exists but I miss the fujo threads on /trash/ before the moids shitted everything up. I miss how fast they were. Sometimes I wish fujochan had more activity but quality > quantity works best here which is not worth compromising. They just serve different purposes
No.6192
>>6191They were okay. Because real conversation with fujos is so rare on imageboards I hated how ephemeral they were. I was also kind of butthurt because that kind of posting would have been fine on /cm/+/y/ back in like 2005~2015 but noooooo fujos gotta go /trash/ if they want to talk now.
No.6193
>>6192I started with it's time on /a/ and even those don't really feel right. /cm/ can have its good threads but they WILL be really slow. I think this is the single fasted thread on this board right now.
I think it's the lack of awareness AND how making a space specifically to deter troons and chuds requires it almost being a secret to make Quality discussion. I'm not personally big into r18 discussion even though I do love doujinshi and fanfiction, but I hate if at any given point I want to talk about a fetish fic I found, /y/ is my only anonymous choice and I feel like I'm typign in a pornhub comment box.
No.6194
>the horror when you see members of your active fan community slowly leaving your fandom and drawing for the most generic shit you can imagine (usually one of the same three biggest gacha or the most recent big mainstream shounen)
This is worse than seeing accounts just going silent. It wouldn't even bother me if they discovered a new random fandom, I might even be interested or happy for them. But no, it's never anything unexpected, it's always one of the damn same five things. I sometimes wonder if I am brain damaged or something for being unable to get into HonkaiSR/JJK/MHA/Naruto/DDD because it seems like I am the only person on earth who doesn't love at least one of these.
No.6195
>>6194What's DDD? You arent the only one nonna, not a fan of any of those but I can be mad at good art even if it's not of a series I like. JJK and Chainsaw Man in particular have boatloads of fantastic fan art but I felt tricked after checking them out because the fandom was clearly above the source material lol.
No.6196
>>6195Yeah I feel this. Though to be honest I always unfollow when someone is obviously not drawing for the same fandom anymore. There are too many daily posts on twitter, so following people who are into different things will just clutter my timeline. Maybe I am autistic but even when I see how good the art is I don't really care about it if it's about a series I don't know anything about or something can't see the chemistry of. There is so much great Goro art, but I still feel like I wouldn't care about this dude. At least not anymore. He looks like something I would have loved as a teen lol
No.6198
>>6193I genuinely want to know if most users of /cm/ are either too braindead to talk or if they can't speak English because there are so many that just come to spam the pics of their favorite and they never ever say anything even if you try to start a conversation.
Worse, they even do it in the /a/ threads for the same series. This makes me especially mad because my current favorite series is rarely getting threads and everytime it does one of these idiots come to spam their fanart without commenting on the new chapter and it makes fujos look stupid and helps reaching the bump limit faster. If they care so much about their character they surely could at least talk about him.
No.6199
>>6191Slow quality discussion is good but I also like faster threads when I am posting horny shit and don't want to to read my own posts the next day.
No.6204
It's always so sad to join a fandom years later and find that there's literally no content for the ship you latched onto.
No.6212
>>6185Re: sports, we did get Birdie Wing. The second cour didn't quite keep up to expectations but it had great absurd sport moments that reminded me of Beyblade in a way. I think they should aim for TeniPuri style girls sports shows, UmaMusume felt a lot like that ignoring the idol parts being canonized.
>>6188Some of the better het romance leads I've read were from Korean series too, they have a whole genre trope of young adult alcoholic idiots who fuck around and find out, and it's good fun to see when they bother making the rest of the cast respond to it. Maybe it feels cookiecutter to others but I like characters who meddle and have to worm their way out of messes.
>>6189/oc/ beckons you, nona. You can spam dump the concepts you want to see in the invent a BL thread and see what others can add.
I'm totally not just saying this because I posted enormous walls of text in the past year and still feel self conscious of being the only one that autistic. No.6263
I’m a bit down. Reread the story and enjoyed it, but feeling insecure to post my plot driven fic. I don’t know how to polish writing and different dialogues. It will stay under desk.
No.6321
The fake idolatry of yuri in fandoms, especially in fandoms with light hearted themes gets really boring.
I feel like a lot of them just like it as an aesthetic, yuricore.
No.6322
>>6194I experienced this a few years back when EVERYONE got into vtubers. It was so fucking horrifying watching people from my fandom convert into drawing vtuber fanart or becoming one themselves because I absolutely fucking hate vtubers and their industry. To me it was a worse personal disaster than them getting into some second rate shounenslop.
Another one is them abandoning weebshit altogether and moving onto comics to draw capeshit fanart. They might as well be dead at that point because their style will change drastically and the old one can never return.
No.6323
>>6160>discord serverYou know where you fucked up.
No.6326
>>6321It's always the type of people who are no good at describing dynamics or scenarios between characters too. When someone suggests a ship I want to play with it and see what they're picturing, and it always falls flat to strike up conversations like that for yuri ships.
No.6327
Somedays I just wanna admit my disinterest in yuri without the branding of lesbophobia. I have SSA acquaintances, I'm in support of lgb rights, but I don't want to read yurislop to prove my allyhood. I'm sick of progressive spaces at large treating them as gods or objects for their agendas when they're literally people. The fact there's lesbians and bi women in this site shows me that they're people with agency who can like whatever they want. Fuck the haters.
No.6328
>>6327I'm a lesbian and I give you the permission to not like yuri and still be accepting of LGB people. The overwhelming majority of the really militant yurifags who scream misogyny and lesbophobia at everyone are either born men, coombrained pickmes or actual underage political lesbians, the genuine lesbian yuri fans are too busy gushing over their favourite works and having sex with their girlfriends to give a shit.
No.6329
>>6327You're fine nonnie. Lesbian here, but bl is far more appealing me than Yuri. Tbh majority of it caters to moids anyway. I can't see anything attractive about moeslop, plus majority of the stories lack any depth or relatability to the lesbian experience.
Anyone who would bully you about not liking yuri are either juveniles or pathetic losers who have their heads shoved far up their own asses. The majority of them equate liking porn/media to actual advocacy.
No.6330
>>6327Same here. I view my hobby spaces as hobby spaces so I want them to stay on topic. This is my issue with discords. I can find decent discords because most of the fandoms I am in attract a chiller and older audience, but the one thing I can't escape is genderbending and private talks.
I don't understand why it's so common. There is a character in the fandom I am in whose fanart is, I kid you not, 90%+ genderbending (most of it from Japanese fujos, even) and it drives me insane despite being into two other dudes. Even THEY get it but it would legit make me ignore the fandom if I was into the aforementioned guy.
IRL I am pro gay and progressive, but there is a reason for why I join "yaoi ship" forums, twitter spaces and discords and it's the yaoi part of the yaoi space.
What makes it worse is that the fem versions have 0 in common with the originals. It's cowtits and more cowtits, ahegao and ughuu faces or sexualised "JK" or lolis.
Worst, it also attracts fucking coomers which makes it worse because the show is a sausage fest with HEAVY fujo pandering.
Do you really need to poison one of the rare fandoms we get by attracting fucking otaku? I am tired of seeing the cowtit art posted on 4chan for a series about men and male relationships, including heavily implied gay ones. There are tons of series pandering to them.
No.6331
>>6330>There is a character in the fandom I am in whose fanart is, I kid you not, 90%+ genderbending (most of it from Japanese fujos, even)One half of my otp is also like that too, a lot of Asian artists like to make him a woman just to have an excuse to draw vaginas and huge breasts. At least it's on social media and they tag everything in case anyone wants to mute specific tags. Except one but I muted her account and she's trying way too hard to make her fetish look like a regular headcanon.
No.6333
>>6330>character has a distinct theme in his outfit>instead of making his genderbend wear the female equivalent of this uniform they just take the male uniform and give it a ruffled pink skirtTHAT'S NOT HOW DESIGN WORKS
also the female equivalent would be hot and could be tight fitting, what the fuck is wrong with these artists No.6334
>>6331I never understood the coomer aspect of it. Why does m->w genderbending always equal pornifying and over-sexualisation? The same people draw the male pairings SFW with them barely touching each other, but the second one of them turns into a woman (s)he's a drooling blow-up doll with distorted proportions. It's not only annoying as a yaoi fan I also don't like the implications because it seems like sexuality was equaled to femininity. So if you want to draw NSFW you first have to turn a guy into a woman?
It sounds like the flipside of the medal that are men who write angry replies for fanart with sexualised single male characters because the sheer thought of a sexualized man somehow makes their brain implode. They don't just get angry about gay art but even het art if the dude is drawn sexily.
It's so seeing one artist that I respected until now also going down that rabbit hole because she is, actual quote, "addicted JKing these two". It's even two older dudes with beards and muscles and uniforms, so you can imagine that the similarity with a generic high school girl with skirt is zero.
No.6335
>>6333I fucking hate genderbends like this coming from someone who enjoys them.
Yuribends are my guilty pleasure, apologies. I get that artists just want to draw the character wearing cute and frilly clothing for the sake of it but it's just so boring when every genderbend is a big titty woman dressed like a Pinterest bimbo. Designs where the original personality and style of the character is retained have always been more interesting to me.
>>6330>There is a character in the fandom I am in whose fanart is, I kid you not, 90%+ genderbendingWhich character is this? The only series where I've seen more genderbend art than not is TWST for some reason. I'm not even into the game myself but all the art retweeted that comes onto my timeline is them as women, but that says more about who I follow I guess.
No.6336
>>6334>it seems like sexuality was equaled to femininity. So if you want to draw NSFW you first have to turn a guy into a woman?Pretty much. I think this is just a mental hangup that many people, both male and female, have. It's just like the fic writers who only write M/M if it's PIV. It's just Unga Bunga Straight Brain. I think for many women also the potential for impregnation/children is important for them to get off (which is one reason A/B/O is so popular now)
Even in BL the more masculine partner is rarely sexualized more than or equally to the more feminine guy.
No.6337
>>6330Honestly, I never liked genderbends where the guy is reduced to meager waifu. Not even about female rep, they just want a insert for them to enact their fantasies on.
I admit to genderbending sexualized women and yuri ships as male because I just want more cute guys… but at least retain what makes them iconic while also ensuring a new fresh take to the character(s).
No.6341
>>6336>I think this is just a mental hangup that many people, both male and female, have. It's just like the fic writers who only write M/M if it's PIV. It's just Unga Bunga Straight Brain. I think for many women also the potential for impregnation/children is important for them to get off (which is one reason A/B/O is so popular now)I've been thinking this for years now but it's hard to bring it up outside of an anonymous imageboard cause these days people will do the inevitable 'muh PIV sex is queer sex too cause pronouns!! Men can get pregnant too.'
No.6342
>>6334>Why does m->w genderbending always equal pornifying and over-sexualisation?In a conversation about this exact topic apparently it's because "women are naturally more sexier and I just like seeing boobies heehee". People have such severe brain poisoning from being exposed to women being sexualized everywhere that they can't imagine them not being overtly objectified for the male gaze. I get giving them longer eyelashes or longer hair or even a dress just as a fun design experiment to differentiate from the original one but removing half of their clothes to make them look like a stripper or giving them major cleavage is so goddamn unnecessary. For some reason Japanese fujos do this all the time.
No.6343
>>6341>muh PIV sex is queer sex too cause pronouns!! Men can get pregnant too.'So if a non-binary person with a dick fucks a transmasc pre-op in the pussy it's actually queer? Are we seriously calling piv gay? next you'll tell me gay men during anal is straight actually.
No.6345
>>6344I think there was an anon that made an /x/ themed server here, you can join them and have more friends there perhaps? what do you mostly look for in a fujo friend?
No.6346
>>6342>For some reason Japanese fujos do this all the time.The woman is usually way more sexualized even in otome stuff. I don't know if the target audience of straight women usually find that hot or if apparently no one can conceive of not having a woman's tits be the focus.
When I see tiddy genderbends in a fujo log I usually wonder if the artist is bi or a lesbian but it's hard to say because many straight women seem to like malegaze hentai, I think it's a self-insertion thing. As a probably-straight woman I like women being lewded too, but only in yuri. If it's het I want full focus on the guy from her perspective. Essentially the same as being willing to see your fave get fucked by a tentacle monster, but you don't care how sexy the tentacles are.
No.6347
>>6344You should try the friend finder thread here, maybe? I don't play enstars anymore but shumika is based.
No.6348
>>6346A yume dominated fandom I was once in taught me that the majority of them want to imagine themselves as generic supermodels and barbie dolls.
I never understood it because I expected them to be the first people to get pissed about the same tropey depictions of women but nah. Same with the narrative. They love forced marriages and slave feMCs and all that.
I usually play male characters in games but for the rare cases where I play a female character I never made her look like that. I always want them to be odd-looking spergs (like Midori from Eizouken or that frog girl from MHA) or cool big beefy women, depending on the art style and editor of the game.
Maybe I am just too straight to enjoy feminine designs I don't know.
No.6349
>>6348>A yume dominated fandom I was once in taught me that the majority of them want to imagine themselves as generic supermodels and barbie dolls. Ohh you have no idea, even the yume that wants to portray herself as the next-door girl will basically always make that girl some kind of angelic beauty that all men want to be with
No.6367
>>6366I casually enjoy yuri but holy shit it's the most poisoned fandom I have ever seen. As you said it's filled to the brim with coomers who are too afraid of male 2D rivalry, a ton of trannies and nuhimes like that.
I also love the constant narrative about female only series and games not being a thing. I strangely have a hard fucking time finding more than five sausage fest anime per year and none of them are even real ones, they are at best male-centered but with female characters (that some of the dudes will most likely be in love with). There are so many girl only games since otaku took over I don't know why she claims to have trouble finding those.
That aside, you shouldn't hate on other fans for enjoying other characters. Jesus. I always share my fandoms with fans of characters I don't like and some het shippers. Just be nice to each other.
No.6368
>>6366Are you sure these are not trannies?
No.6369
>>6368Other nonna here, I am not online enough to decipher what this person is. She(?) has "she/they" pronouns in the bio and a strange flag I have never seen. Does anybody know what that means?
Her reply to the AFAB post also confuses me, it seems like she is anti-transmen? But then I get why she would use "they" for herself since it's similar. Maybe it's a male coomer aka TIM? If that's the case would explain some things. I have never seen anybody hating on men (and therefor fujos who enjoy 2D men as well as TIFs that identify as men) as much as male trannies. But the flag doesn't seem tranny.
Anyway useless to speculate I don't know shit about that stuff.
No.6370
>>6369Why is this thing mixing the lesbian flag with the Albanian flag? I've never met a woke Albanian who would know all those terms like 'afab', or use pronouns in their bios.
No.6371
>>6368>>6369The OP is a male tranny. He has TMA in his bio which means "transmisogyny affected".
No.6372
>>6371lmao okay thank you. Never heard of that before.
Well that further convinces me that the most fanatic haters and bitches are tranny males. These people fail to pass as women so they project all of their self-hatred onto men, fictional men, TIFs/transmen and even women that like men in whatever kind of way.
His gf also has "lesbian" in the bio. How dumb must you feel to do that? I know that this hate can theoretically come from all kinds of trannies but the ones that pass seem to be chiller so I bet he's just a dude with colored hair and female dress. Must be fun to tell your friends IRL that you are lesbian after showing them your fat manchild bf.
That aside, I am also absolutely not pro tranny, but the way such people throw TIFs under the bus rubs me the wrong way. At least show some solidarity to your kind if you others to respect you in return, bitch.
>>6370Thanks I have never seen the lesbian flag in my life. I only recognized the Albanian emblem.