No.12157[Last 50 Posts]
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>>10964Post shower thoughts or stuff that doesn't fit other threads.
No.12158
>>12149>It has always been mostly about making characters boink or cranking your hog to your 2d waifu. The only people who don't understand this (they don't even have to like it!) are normalfags who should not have been online enough to discover fandom in the first place.I actually kind of disagree with this, I think fandom is super wide and for a lot of older fandoms, think like Star Trek or Buffy, there was more an emphasis on creating stuff like fan-episodes or continuations of the canon. For specifically shipping though I agree, while character studies and non-sexual intimacy are preferred by some (including me) the whole subculture has an inherent sexual slant.
No.12159
>>12158Yeah. I remember that transformers used to have competitions for 'fic that could have been an episode'.
Actually fanfic awards and competitions in general, I think, really encouraged non-romance/shipping fic, so it had staying power in fandom. I will say that it's definitely more shipping centric these days.
No.12160
>>12158>>12159With Ace attorney I always admired the people who would go through the effort of making their own murder case fic.
No.12161
I hate my life but I will watch the first episodes of JJK season 3 this weekend in theater. I need to stay strong until then. And after that, I need to stay strong until the season actually starts on TV.
No.12162
How deranged would it be to print out pics of the board ginjkas and stick them in copies of yaoi at the bookstore?
A little calling card for those who know.
No.12163
>>12162Perhaps a bit, but hey, if they don't get it at least it's a free cute boy!
No.12164
>>12162I don't get it, are you an employee in that bookstore?
No.12165
>>12164nah, a patron. I suppose it'd be like the batsignal: there are fellow imageboard fujos in your area.
But a less generous reading does seem like advertising or like chick tracts shoved in fantasy novels, so perhaps not
No.12166
In the past I'd commission an artist for my gay ship, even if they don't draw gay stuff in their spare time, if I just thought their artstyle was nice but lately I've become picky and I don't want to commission an artist unless they're already invested in drawing gay stuff.
No.12168
>>12167it's not the exact same, but i get this same sort of sadness when i see someone selling off huge merch collections of one character.
No.12169
>>12167There's a kind of sadness in finding someone's old art for something you're interested in now. Like, if only I'd known them what I know now, but it's too late for that.
No.12171
>>12170I love how obsessive and wrapped up in each other they are. You don't really see that dynamic too often between these types of characters.
No.12172
>>12169Damn, this happened to me when I got into a certain comic. Even after I started seeing art of it casually making it onto my twatter timeline (which was already late) I kept ignoring it for years until couldn't ignore that certain themes and designs were clicking with me. There was a shitton of art of it around, like, easily 30k artworks or something, but 90% of the people that made them were gone by the time I joined and worse, I got especially obsessed with a bunch of tertiary characters that had 0 active artists post 2016 (and I joined 2018).
It feels like discovering ruins and ghost towns. You see the pretty building, the once busy steets and such you can imagine how beautiful it must have been. But now you're only seeing the remains, unable to engage and ask anybody how it's been like.
Despite all sadness those remains are some of my main inspirations and I can only thank god that they still exist and didn't get deleted. I hope that my own accounts can be such a pretty ruin for the few future fans that might stumble upon them one day, even if I already left.
No.12173
>>12170I wish I could forget everything that happens in Breaking Bad to watch it again, I'm jealous! Have fun nonna
No.12174
>>12170I’ve been obsessed with waltjesse for like a year now. They truly are the gift that keeps on giving. Not sure how far you’ve seen but it does get darker later on. You are in for a ride with these two believe me lol
>>12171their obsessiveness is everything to me
>>12173I’ve been rewatching it and honestly it’s still a great experience. Being able to see the foreshadowing and the stark contrast of the characters and their relationships in the earlier seasons compared the later ones is very good. Seeing their choices play out while knowing exactly how it’s gonna end is a bit like watching a train crash. love it
No.12175
>>12167Often times with recent artists they'll switch to gachashit and it makes me extra depressed.
No.12179
>>12178Nona ask her to share!!! Usually artists don’t mind old work requests. At least trying won’t hurt
The way she draws them is so cute. I thought Syndrome x Bob was popular until I googled
No.12180
>>12179Ah, unfortunately I'm too shy to send unsolicited requests for old art, but they have quite a bit floating around on Pinterest if you go digging.
>I thought Syndrome x Bob was popular until I googledIt's a bit shocking how few shipping fanworks exists for Pixar movies. I don't think any of them have the fujo fanbase Disney has and I don't know why. I'd eat up Incredibles or Monsters Inc yaoi but there's almost none.
No.12183
>>12178Thank you, how'd you even find them, cause I couldn't
No.12186
>>12185NTA but cute gijinka!
>even Sora kekSounds like motivation for me to finally play KH3
No.12187
There should be a term for annoying "rare dynamic" shippers, you know the top deku or top geto shippers, whose favs are usually the bottom and so they overcompensate and tend to act completely annoying.
No.12188
>>12187I'm not part of those fandoms but that sounds like the same type of complex where people act weirdly smug about making a smaller guy top. I've seen this sometimes in the Promare fandom with people who prefer Lio as the top.
No.12189
>>12187>>12188I like those rare dynamics and I do tend to be vastly contrarian from common fandom opinion but the people that generally do this often do it as some sort of "gotcha" same as people who say they like (rareship that I pulled out of my ass) over (likely popular but 'problematic' ship).
I don't think any of those even actually like the ships they ship at all. Bonus points if they'll eventually say that their interpretation is somehow "yuri", this is how you out them
No.12190
>>12187I like some rarepairs but I focus on the pairing itself instead of the meta "gotcha!" or NLOGiness.
>you know the top deku or top geto shippersI don't think either of those example pairings are even really rare within their own fandoms, so there's not much for annoying shippers to even be smug or have a superiority complex about kek. But I know exactly what you're saying though.
I don't like the common weird top Deku BDSMy OOCness where they write Deku super weird, but that's a whole nother conversation lmao.
>>12188>I've seen this sometimes in the Promare fandom with people who prefer Lio as the top.huh.
I kiinda get it, but I'm still not 100% about Galo's character design in general so… (NO HATE PROMARE NONNAS) No.12192
>>12189>the people that generally do this often do it as some sort of "gotcha" same as people who say they like (rareship that I pulled out of my ass) over (likely popular but 'problematic' ship)Definitely see this in popular fandoms. I'm a rarepair enjoyer myself, but you can tell when someone actually likes a rarepair, or if they're just shipping it to be spiteful.
No.12194
>>12191>I actually think Galo and Kray have a more interesting thing going on with fucked up toxic hero worshipBased and same. I actually liked those two the most but by the time I watched Promare, the fandom already had died off. I thought it was an okay movie, but not something I would be thinking about for a long time.
No.12196
>>12187>>12193The way you guys describe it makes it sound like a Jump fandom issue more than anything. I usually champion a rarepair because it gets less fanworks despite having potential, so that more people see it and throw it a bone. It still needs to start with some traits or dynamic that I like, otherwise why drum up more for it. By the sounds of it the big shounen fandoms have people trying to create something personal to themselves and draw the attention of the crowd. There's ego in any act of making a pairing your thing you never shut up about, but in big fandoms it's like people expect to set up tent and carve their own fandom inside the fandom.
>>12195What the fuck even
No.12197
>>12193>>12195the OOC “uke-fication” and “seme-fication” happens on both sides tbh. it happens to every popular ship regardless
No.12198
>>12197Why is this anyway? I remember that if we go back to the roots of BL, the wimpy uke archetype has always been there
because it's a stand-in for a woman but often than not, the character itself was already pretty wimpy, frail and "weak".
But for BL shipping, I think because people were used to the hard-coded "weak uke" "strong seme" that was in BL, ever character had to fall into that category no matter what if they were in a ship. It's understandable if in kawoshin shinji is weak and meek but I have definitely seen a fair share of ooc top kaworus in my lifetime. There's also jotakak which completely babyfied kakyoin, etc.
But even if I try to rationalize it like this, I still don't know why it still happens to this day. We're not in the 90s anymore, ukes can be sex-confident and initiating and not "nooooo yameteeeee"
No.12200
>>12193KnY fandom seems to be pretty good with keeping younger tops the same size, I have seen some taller aged up art but it's the minority. Not to say that the uke feminization shit doesn't still happen for the older characters but I think there's a decent variety.
(Dick sizes are another story. Semes are never allowed to have a smaller dick even when they're teens I guess…)
No.12203
>>12201>>12202I love when these type of games have a gay option that’s not meant to be a joke.
No.12204
>>12198>Why is this anyway?Lots of women love male dom in some form or another. Het or not.
>>12199I don't want to turn characters into myself, but I've thought about drawing my favorite Japanese video game characters eating food and doing something stereotypical from where I live kek
No.12205
>>12199>picThis is almost certainly a lack of real-world experience from younger fans. Can't blame them though I've been working on a serious fic set in real-world Japan and half my time has been spent trying to research stuff like food and apartments.
It's really funny to go back to Fanfiction.net and read Yu-gi-oh and Bleach fics from 2006 where the characters are just in American high schools masquerading as Japanese ones.
>>12204Stuff like that is usually cute I enjoy seeing what-ifs and AUs of different cultures. Fighting game fandoms in particular do it well. It's only really jarring if it's unintentional and you've got San Fransokyo by accident.
No.12206
>>12205> half my time has been spent trying to research stuff like food and apartments.I'm doing something similar, and an invaluable resource for me has been japanese apartment listings, because they're required to include a floor plan, and 'walk through city' videos on youtube, for typical clothing, ads, and atmosphere. It's not an easy task; I feel your pain, nona.
No.12207
Fans of a ship I like are so sure it'll be canon it's giving me Klance flashbacks.… I wish I had that level of delusion but I'm not a teenager anymore. I'm already dreading the inevitable melties and cope
No.12208
>>12207You can't just say this and not drop the ship's name, nonna
No.12210
>>12203I'm okay with joke ones if the character is cute
https://streamable.com/bg8bv No.12212
>>12207EURGH I get it though. I'm an adult, but it still hurts so so bad when the writers make a NOTP or het ship canon. My ideal media would have a non-romantic story with bait without romantic confirmations at the end.
>>12205Maybe cringe but I want to draw my favs
eating bbq, watching football, and drinking sweet tea. or maybe at a Waffle House just as fanart kek
>>12211rainbow tie Hajime is a little cursed, cute, and cringe all at the same time
No.12213
>>12212>rainbow tie Hajime is a little cursed, cute, and cringe all at the same timeThe artist who drew it cut her own leg off so I think of it as cursed and cringe but definitely not cute kek. Also I just think scene "fashion" is hideous (just have them wear gyaru or something kek)
No.12214
>>12213Yeah, Japan has its own alt-fashion, and tons of it. The artist had a lot of options but chose to americanize them instead.
>The artist who drew it cut her own leg off what the fuck
No.12215
>>12214Of course people are still doing it when I looked it up on tumblr kek.
>what the fuckhomunculus100
No.12216
>>12214Japanese artists are out there drawing non Japanese characters in kimono or qipao or maid cafe outfits all the time. It's one thing if someone is drawing anime characters americanized only because they don't care enough to learn anything but their own culture but sometimes people are just drawing something because they thought it would be fun. I think DR characters in scene fashion is hilarious (but wtf about the artist)
No.12217
>>12215>homunculus100Oh god, them. Feels so weird seeing their old anime art when they later adopted that faceless blorb artstyle later down the line for their fetish
No.12218
>>12215>homunculus100oh, the dry ice chick? I'm way more famaliar with her horrible bug-eyed, Rick and Morty styled art.
>>12216Whenever two cultures collide, there's always an exchange of fashion.
No.12219
>>12213AYRT holy shit that's homunculus100's art? I hope she gets help generally speaking.
>>12215Where's alt Eito?
No.12220
>>12219>AYRT holy shit that's homunculus100's art? Yes, pre batshit insanity though.
>Where's alt Eito?He gets drawn more in Chinese style because the game is crazy popular with fujos over there.
No.12221
>>12198>Why is this anyway?the simple truth is that they just reaaaally like that dynamic. I’ve seen people admit that they make a character cry way more often than he would in canon just because they like to see him cry lol (I get it)
No.12226
I'm thinking about creating a genderbend AU thread, one where female characters become male and so can have a m/m relationship. What would be the appropriate board for this, and what would be a good thread title and description?
No.12228
Reeeeee my internet is so slow and stuttery today that any post I try to make with an image just times out at 58%. I hate it!!
No.12229
>>12226Is this your own creations or reposting existing works? There's a genderbend thread here already
>>1662, but if you're making your own fic concepts and art then it's /oc/
No.12230
I didn't know Takeshi Obata drew art for Litchi Hikari Club. Maybe he just liked it for its edginess but now I'm wondering if he regularly reads BL
No.12232
>>12231You're making me realize that he has a very similar kind of bishie-ness to Usamaru Furuya.
No.12233
>>12230I do wonder if he’s a fudan sometimes since he’s awfully good at drawing handsome guys
No.12236
>>12233Maybe. I don't see him hating BL/fujos like certain artists/writers at least, he seems professional enough to not be a sperg kek
I love his artstyle so much, you can see his growth reading Hikaru no Go from start to finish. Truly inspiring.
No.12240
>>12233>>12236straight men are better at drawing hot guys then gay men for some reason
No.12241
>>12236Would be funny if true because of all his work with Ohba who seems to have become salty due to L/Light's popularity.
No.12242
>>12241>Ohba who seems to have become salty due to L/Light's popularity.Really? That's so funny. I think more authors should understand that their paycheck is sometimes signed by fujos.
No.12243
>>12240I think straight guys reference material that was drawn by women while gay guys exclusively reference bara and conceit to make everything “AS BIG AS THEY CAN”
>>12242Yeah he dislikes gays in general kek
No.12244
>>12243>I think straight guys reference material that was drawn by women while gay guys exclusively reference bara and conceit to make everything “AS BIG AS THEY CAN”Imo it also tends to be true that women designed by straight women are more appealing (at least in my opinion, but I also can't think of any designed by lesbians off the top of my head, in any case straight male designs are usually at the bottom of the barrel)
It's probably something like if you aren't thinking of a character as fap material first then your design will turn out better. Shoujo magical girls vs ecchi magical girls are probably the easiest comparison. Straight male artists are also more likely to not be afraid of adding unconventional features to their men instead of making them all blandly attractive, which is a key ingredient to the sexyman formula.
No.12245
>>12244Yeah, I think women in general have more consideration for a character's personality rather than their appearance, so they tend to be more designed around their personality, if that makes sense.
Men of all sexuality seem to think bigger=better, hence bara/hyper/huge boobs on anime girls/giant butts and hips on femboy male characters.
No.12246
>>12245>giant butts and hips on femboy male characters.I hate this so much. What is even the point?
No.12248
>>12244>Straight male artists are also more likely to not be afraid of adding unconventional features to their men instead of making them all blandly attractive, which is a key ingredient to the sexyman formula.It's like how in Fate/grand order male characters are so diverse in age and body type while last time I played there was not a single female character who looked older and I know of one single girl who was allowed to be chubby.
No.12250
>>12248Minamoto and Sessyoin Kiara are both definetly designed to be read as "Older Women" but yeah it's not nearly as diverse as the male characters, you don't have like a Moriarty equivalent or any women with wrinkles.
I was trying to think earlier if I knew any gay authors who made more conventional "yaoi" boys and Nagabe is the only one who comes to mind, but half his stuff is furry so I don't know if it counts. Personally I don't mind some bara artists though, I like more mature men so in a sfw context arists like Mentaiko or Tarutoru appeal to me, but the tone in their porn is much more… grotesquely sexual I guess? I don't know, I have yet to see porn by a gay author that is actually arousing, but I suppose that makes sense given I'm not the target.
>>12249What game?
No.12252
>>12249why is she a pedo?
No.12254
>>12249Before I parsed the whole sentence I was so confused and wondered when the creator of pokemon was outed as a pedo.
No.12255
I wrote fanfic and randomly put in some stuff about the uke moaning while seme tickled him just because it felt right at the moment. Now I strangely feel like it's the hottest part of my fic.
No.12258
>>12252Slept with a 14 year old girl when she was in her 20s.
>>12254KEK
No.12260
>>12259Do they have to be canon or is any genderbent crackship allowed? I have a few noncanon het ships I’d love even more if the girl was genderbent. I was even thinking of writing some fanfics for them.
No.12264
>>12259This artist has a ton of really cute disney r63
a lot is really nsfw, btw. Really makes me realize that people in general don't design male characters to be cute or pretty.
No.12267
>>12259That would already fit best under the genderbend thread tbh
>>1662 No.12271
I wish magical dj aphrodisiacs were real. I would love to instant cum from sex or getting my boobs rubbed.
No.12273
>>12271Dj aphrodisiacs are too powerful, I have to think of terrible side effects, risk groups or selective effectiveness to include them in a fic or else mankind would be just snorting sex drugs and fucking all their wake time.
No.12280
>>12279tbh the only samcas I have read had Sam as the top.
No.12282
>>12279GriffGuts/Berserk is the poster child of this phenomenon for me. Another ship where Short/Tall dwarfs Tall/Short is Yuma/Osamu from World Trigger. Uhhh… It's a smaller pair but Simon/Kamina from TTGL, as well.
Though there's a good bit of art where Simon's taller (story stuff), I do think it could count. I assume you're specifically looking for pairs where the height gap is super noticeable, though, rather than popular -1~2 inch tops in general. Can't think of too many others in that case.
No.12284
>>12282>I assume you're specifically looking for pairs where the height gap is super noticeable, thoughpretty much
No.12285
>>12284There might be some seme protagonist BLVNs with ships that fit the bill, or uke protagonist ones where a shota or younger LI is present.
No.12290
>>12289For real. Why can’t it be spring already?
No.12292
>>12289Could not disagree with you harder, no amount of icy roads will make me ever yearn for a muggy midwestern summer.
No.12293
>>12289I yearn for my disgustingly humid summer swamp weather because I can’t stand the cold. Heat Miser ain’t got nothing on me. Anything lower than 75 degrees (Fahrenheit) is too cold.
No.12298
>>12297I wouldn't say so, I only was raised by one parent and they never had any other partners growing up (using gender neutral because I'd rather not put my family tree on blast kek)
I have a preference for brother ships but I don't even talk to my siblings either. I think any preferences of mine just spawned on its own rather than from being exposed to anything during childhood.
No.12299
>>12297No, though I think the values my family had is a factor in my preferences. I have a religious upbringing and that came with very traditional depictions of relationship in media. Nonsexual, monogamous, nuclear family dynamics, ect. That's largely what I prefer in my shipping, "True Love" usually more drama-focused than sex-focused, sprinkle in a bit of internalized homophobia for good measure.
No.12300
>>12297My parents had an extremely abusive relationship that ended up traumatizing me as well. And I'm mostly into ships with a psychological horror flavor so uh…I guess it checks out.
No.12301
>>12297Definitely, my parents used to fight a lot and now I tend to dislike pairings that costantly fight
No.12302
>>12297I mean maybe? I like things to be extremely equal, and I'm not a big fan of imbalanced dynamics unless they get flipped on the head. I don't like the idea of strict roles, and my parents are pretty typical as they come when it comes to traditional gender roles. But I think that's pretty par the course, I don't think most fujos are traumatized and think they're mainly here for the love of the game (male on male action), but I'm sure a good amount like that technically the uke isn't born an uke they're made to be one/choose to be one which is atypical of straight relationships where it's assumed what will happen. Also… is this JohnLock? Or is my fujo-radar stuck in 2015 lmao.
No.12303
>>12297My parents were like
>>12301 but I feel like it made me disgusted with heterosexual relationships as a whole instead. I only love yaoi and yuri but like a variety of dynamics.
No.12306
>>12300Kek nona, same
>>12297That is indeed johnlock drawn by the legendary reapersun
No.12307
>>12297I never really thought about it. My parents are both pretty stubborn and banter a lot, and my mom's personality is not particularly feminine and oh my god I think this is why one of the only canon het ships I like is Bulma and Vegeta lmao.
I think a combination of things set me up to dislike aggressively hetero pairings (like growing up a girl and having eyes and ears) but my parents probably contributed to me also disliking the "this one is the girl" flavors of BL/GL and the general feminization/woobification of the bottom if it's a fixed dynamic. It's hard to pin down a common thread between the ships I like enough to actively consume/create works about (other than, of course, that they are all the objectively correct one to have for that piece of media (。•̀ᴗ-)✧)
No.12308
>>12297>Single parentI spent a lot of time around my best friend's parents though, and they were the yelling at each other and only together for the kid type, so…
My fujo preferences were set pretty early on with antagonistic rival types but I think now the most common theme is ships which are maybe unrealistically loyal and devoted to each other. I can definitely say that I'm into fictional characters achieving a romantic ideal that is rare or impossible for real life relationships (which isn't to say that I don't also like the mundane/realistic/slice of life part, but I'm definitely not into faves behaving in a shitty way by RL standards)
No.12309
>>12306Meant to reply to
>>12302 No.12310
>>12297My parents have a healthy relationship and are into nerdy-ish things themselves. The bigger impact on the dynamics I like are how I'm a sperg and how I was bullied. I was also never got into het stuff like Twilight either with the whole perfect magical bf fantasy. Now I like yaoi with weird fetishes. I want my pairings to love each genuinely in their own way, even if that love is unhealthy or bizarre kek.
No.12311
>>12297Now you've got me reflecting, I don't think it has anything to do with my parents (even though my dad is a by the books tsundere), but my friends when I was little. I was never accepted in groups of other girls, so if I had a female friend she was my one best friend who meant everything to me and did everything with me. But my first best friends when I was 3-4 were boys. And my friend groups between female friends were all boys too, and I absolutely remember mentally having something like a ship for two of my friends when I was like eight, because they were joined at the hip and did everything together, they had size difference and the taller one followed everything the short one said like he was amazing even though he was kind of a dick, but the tall guy was really soft and generous. In fact, two of my friend groups at different times were made up of two guys and me, and I would see those guys always being together more than they were with me because I didn't get to hang out outside of school.
Then around 10-11 guys start separating themselves off from girls way harder and I was always alone seeing them going around in their pairs. I started spending all my time in the computer room making neopets pages and going on forums where people wrote GokuVegeta stuff. Rest is history. I write size difference pairs.
No.12317
>>12304I thought not deleting a nude pic and letting a friend use my phone was the biggest mistake I ever made but now it feels insignificant. That's a conversation I would never want to have with a parent or therapist.
No.12322
>>12297For me it's totally unrelated. All I see in my parents' relationship is a PSA on why getting married is the worst thing you can do as a woman but I see fiction as a separate thing.
No.12324
At the height of fujo hate people called themselves gay men to avoid fetishization accusations and now everyone says they're lesbian fujos to deflect against similar remarks, funny that. At least people can accept they're women now I guess.
No.12326
>>12324What I remember was, in that order
>I'm bi so I like BL because I like hot men and I relate to them being gay for each other>oh no liking hot men as a woman is haram, actually I was a guy all along >oh no people have noticed I've been pretending to be a guy online, uuuuh actually I'm a transboy and I'm into BL because of its representation of gay men just like me>obviously a different category of fujoshi who have too much common sense to troon out: I'm a lesbian fujo, I can read BL for the story and romance despite not liking hot menAnd then several of these lesbian fujos either only read sappy romance with an actual plot or BL manga and manhwa that are 80% explicit sex scenes and 20% plot, no in between.
No.12327
>>12324That would be nice if true. Most of the people in my ship's fandom corner are still he/hims or he/theys. Maybe a she/they if they're a bit more daring.
No.12329
>>12324anything but admitting your straight, it's like even if you don't date men irl that still doesn't remove your straightness.
I see women simping for Leon's abs and dick from RE and they say "no i am actually a hardcore lesbian"
lol c'mon
No.12330
>>12329That shit sounds so retarded to me? I use to be one of those girls who called herself lesbian despite all signs pointing to bisexual? It's okay to be bi or straight, no one's gonna lynch you for that? well besides troons anyway?
No.12331
>>12326NTA, but it's funny. IME, I saw lesbian fujoshi before that point in time where everyone started calling themselves bi.
No.12332
>>12331I haven't but it's unrelated to whether lesbian fujoshi exist. I was less online and the forums where I lurked barely had girls, let alone girls who would tell anyone about private matters like this.
No.12341
Feeling strange right now as I read people complaining how they dislike scrawny guys. How the fuck. Scrawny guys are so pretty. They are my type. Fuck right off, you internet haters. Beautiful lads hit the gym and turn into gorillas because of morons like you. (insert more seething)
No.12342
>>12341don't feel bad, half of it is virtue signaling to appear "woke" because in real life, thin/lean men are considered more attractive, the other half is tifs coping cause they became fat and ugly.
No.12343
>>12341I feel you. The vast majority of pinup model accounts I follow on twitter are of asian guys cause they're so slender and pretty and the non-asian ones are clearly imitating the aesthetics of the asian ones.
No.12345
>>12341Scrawny guys are cute, chubby guys are cute, gym bros are DISGUSTING.
No.12347
>>12344I hate any scrotes for ruining pokemon. They also do this with vaporeon, hex maniac, lopunny….
No.12348
>>12344I avoid interacting with male pokemon fans as much as possible unless they're casuals who just play the games a little bit and say if they liked or disliked them for this reason. Even the non furry male fans are annoying as fuck, they keep disconnecting during online battles if I'm about to win, they sperg hard on youtube and spread spoilers and leaks everywhere, fuck them. Right now I only follow a few female fans who post either art of the human characters or cutesy art of the pokemon, or they post pictures of the outfits they sew for their pokemon plushies, my tl is very peaceful on twitter as a result.
No.12350
The new twitter algo is so bad. Artists I follow that have 10k+ followers barely get any likes on their new posts now. There are no good platforms for creatives left. Being an artist in 2025 is suffering
No.12354
>>12350Why do they follow users if they get all their posts from the algorithm anyway lol
No.12355
>>12350Far be it from me to defend the algo but a lot of those followers could be bots/inactive accounts/accounts who still follow but don't click like on what the artist is drawing because they are drawing something different than what they were followed for (guilty).
I wish more people who stayed would use Control Panel for Twitter–it's still great for keeping all of that shit off of your timeline. It even works on Firefox mobile so you don't have to use the app on your phone.
No.12356
>>12344Meanwhile they post "you just know" on every fucking thing and ask how they can "fix women" for liking non-human characters.
No.12359
>>12289My winters don't even have snow it's just wet and cold.
No.12360
>>12359Eugh, sorry nona. Cold and mucky winters suck.
No.12361
>>12360It's not all bad, there's occasional thick fog that makes everything look so mystic.
No.12373
>>12372I know that feeling. It's kinda like how I'm ok with noncon and ryona if it happens in a BL game but I don't want to read a Dragon quest 11 doujin where Erik gets raped and abused. It hits different depending on the context.
No.12376
PETA is a shitty organisation but the more I learn about horse racing because of Uma musume the more I feel like it genuinely is just animal abuse.
No.12377
>>12376There's definitely a lot of abuse going on considered that Horses are put to race as soon as 1 year old, and because racing is very heavy on the horse they can easily get leg injuries which usually is a death sentence on the horse (quite literally most of the time, as many horses can't recover from the injury and may as well euthanize them on the spot). There also may be drugs involved as well but of course they'd cover that up too.
Anyway, I wish uma musuko was a thing. So many horses have peak shonen-esque rivalries I kinda would've loved to see them as boys.
No.12378
>>12376I used to work near a race track and it was kinda depressing. It was neat seeing the horses getting unloaded when I drove in for my shift but morbid at the same time. PETA is a very broken clock organization, and I say that as someone who doesn't eat meat because of the livestock industry.
No.12379
I wish I had a dick so I could pee in bottles when i'm feeling too lazy or fixated on my computer.
No.12380
>>12377>Anyway, I wish uma musuko was a thing. So many horses have peak shonen-esque rivalries I kinda would've loved to see them as boys.Definitely. Feels like an alternate timeline I wish I was in.
No.12382
The wolf inside me who knows internet validation is pointless vs the wolf who gets disappointed when I get ignored on discord.
No.12384
>>12382Sometimes I’ll post something I think is really clever and funny and then sulk a bit when no one replies to it
No.12385
>>12379Thinking I knew better I tried to do this to win an argument. It ended as badly as you would expect but with enough experience I think it can be done.
No.12386
>>12385I've had a desperate road trip or two, and wide mouth drink cups like the kind you get from fast food places work. There's also the sheewee.
No.12390
>>12389wtf that's terrible. I'm glad I don't bother with Twitter anymore. There's also Sheezyart and Tumblr. There's no good alternatives if you want big social media engagement or a following besides Tiktok.
No.12392
>>12391That's pretty funny. I think if I were 20 years younger and a little more of a shithead I'd probably go around editing NOTP art into the correct ship.
While I'm not looking forward to the artist diaspora I do hope this is the blow that finally dislodges them. That artist seems to have already deleted their account.
No.12394
>>12389if this is the only way to get JP artists to get the fuck off that hellsite then so be it
No.12395
>>12389I don’t think people are lying when they say they want to leave. it’s just that no one wants to use a less popular site if they want a bigger audience. I also don’t think a twitter clone site can replace twitter, it needs to be a site with new and different features. artist-only sites are nice but only connect you with other artists and people specifically seeking art.
No.12396
>>12389I heard about a new Japanese twitter clone called Pommu or something explicitly allowing all kinds of 2d NSFW but it was Japan-only, despite that it got shit up already apparently.
No.12397
genuinely what's the point of het omegaverse? Didn't omegaverse start off as slash? ABO exists so men can get pregnant and other crap so what's the point of seeing generic horny woman story just with knots?
I stumbled upon a video about an author using AI to write a book and whatever, and it was het ABO which made me think how het girls wish they could have the creativity of BL smut so bad but in the end they can't even come up with anything unique themselves
No.12398
>>12397My guess is that since werewolf erotica like "Fated to my forbidden alpha" was already a thing for het enjoyers it wasn't a huge leap for them to get into omegaverse as well.
No.12399
>>12389My dream is a booru like site with proper (mandatory) tagging and algorithmic search functionality like twitter. Preferably no comments or at least none from westerners.
>>12397Malepreg was a thing way before omegaverse. And wasn't it hetposters who started omegaverse in the first place with their werewolf fetish?
No.12401
>>12396>despite that it got shit up alreadyWhat do you mean? As in shitty western artists flooding there or trolling?
No.12402
>>12389>animator for show posts official art accurate fanart for every holiday, new collab costumes, and character birthdays>deletes everything and puts up a notice saying they can't post to X any more because the AI threatens their employmentFug.
No.12404
>>12401The had an infrastructure crash or something. The website was poorly designed.
No.12405
>>12397Biological bsdm, so the submissive fmc has no choice put to give into her urges. Same with the dominant love interest who is actually a good guy but can't help but be an alpha or something along those lines.
No.12406
A ship I hate keeps getting baited in its source material (though never confirmed). How do I recover from this? I hate being so autistic about this shit.
No.12409
>>12406Does the ship you like get baited as well? I'm in the same situation but I cope that since it's shonenshit neither is becoming real so there is no point in being mad about it.
No.12410
Every time I shove a fusetter/privatter R18 BL ficlet into DeepL I'm imagining that I'm sexually harrassing a robot by forcing it to translate a lewd fic for me. Does this make sense? No. But the mental image amuses me.
No.12411
>>12410Are twitter fics more common these days? I keep wondering why my OTP barely gets new pixiv fic despite it being a popular ship in an ongoing fandom.
No.12412
>>12411I dunno about that. Normally I just see these subsites used for making a spoiler tweet but maybe it depends on the fandom.
No.12413
>>12409I like any ship between Character A and anyone who is not Character B. If you squint maybe those other ships get teased, but not really.
For Character B, I only like shipping them to the other side of the galaxy through a woodchipper. Sadly, that hasn't happened yet.
No.12418
>>12416oh yeah, 100%. I tend to like mangago's comment section vs bato's because there's usually more discussion and I can find more spoilers for the novel adaptations. Tho, I'm realizing how young the commenters are and in certain stories (*cough* Master-Peace), how dumb they are. They're always asking to be spoonfed and it's clear their attention-spans have been shot. Sad state of affairs lol
No.12420
>>12416Yeah, I like the funny commenters even if the underage idiots are annoying.
No.12425
>>12421>TodoMomoBooo. Booooo! Genuinely dislike this pair.
>IzuochaHuh, fascinating.
I honestly found their interactions pretty cute earlier on. No.12426
>Find new JP artist who draws nice BL
>Have to dig through cat pics and food pics to find more BL
In all fairness I know that you can do with your social media platform what you want but it's inconvenient.
No.12427
I joined a JP discord for a ship I've gotten into recently but I have no idea what JP discord etiquette is like. My japanese is only primary school level anyway so I'm just going to stick to lurking and emote reacting.
No.12432
>>12421based Kacchako. Nobody except self inserting moids, or boring normies enjoy Deku/Uraraka
No.12433
>>12177>>12178>>12179wait..they're cooking with this.. obsessed yandere younger man chasing after a married older man who's not into him is hot.
>>12180you'd think Andy x Sid, or Buzz x Woody would be popular with fujos at least, but guess not..
No.12434
>>12389any artist that still stays on X after this is a cuck. Why do artists even post all their art on JUST one platform and never branch out? Really bad business decision on their part.
No.12439
>>12433Sid x Andy would be more popular if they had some interaction. It has potential
No.12441
>>12440I read and love that fic! I meant more like if they interacted in canon, but despite its crackish pairing, they have a decent amount of fics all things considering.
Andy always struck me as a gay kid anyway, lel
No.12442
>>12434Where am I supposed to post my spicy incest art, instagram? There are no good platforms for artists, everything is infested with normies.
No.12444
>>12442I wish there was an art website that was a cross between Pixiv, a Booru, and maybe Tumblr. With no content restrictions besides no illegal content obviously.
No.12445
>>12444I really miss tumblr before the big ban. People engaged with art more, because they could put their thoughts in their reblog tags without having to @ the artist directly. It was never like twitter, where a post can have 5k likes and only 2 comments. Everyone had these nice little blogs. Aside from the large chunk of mentally unwell users it attracted, it was perfect.
No.12446
>>12442I randomly remembered y.gallery and thought, maybe that could be a good site for yaoi artists. I made an account ages ago when it relaunched but never used it. Just logged in and goddamn, the site is infested with low quality western bara. I got tranny stuff blacklisted and I don't wanna see how common that is, but the fact that it's allowed at all is already bleak.
No.12447
Bluesky isn't perfect but I do appreciate the moderation tools that allow for various levels of hiding content so artists don't have to use an external hosting site for posting porn or gore. The only downside is that, according to JP users I've seen who explained all the nsfw filters, nsfw loli and shota aren't allowed no matter what.
No.12448
make a poipiku, or an aethy.
No.12449
>>12443>is the author just really fixated on taking copies of it down?kek, yes they are (i think they are indie, so it's really important for them). right now the first 18th chapters are available at the usual places (somehow).
No.12450
>>12421>KacchakoYume’s choice.
>TodomomoCooking with crumbs that fell off the table almost a decade ago.
>F!DekuYumes who don’t intrude on fujoshi space with “M/M” involving pussy (admirable!)
>IzuochaI don’t know how people even find the time to create works for this ship because all I ever see them do is tear their hair out over BKDK fujos.
No.12451
>>12432>boring normies enjoy Deku/Urarakaclearly not, It's the normies mostly shipping Kacchako
No.12452
>>12421My retarded ass would go for female Bakugo x Deku if I had to make up a het ship for BnHA since I already like BKDK and DKBK kek
No.12453
Besides saving to a hard drive, is there a website for archiving BL fanart? I sometimes upload to Danbooru but there's no guarantee your post will get approved.
No.12454
>>12453You could try Gelbooru, but imo Danbooru is better since its archived regardless of it's approved and mirrored on like 3 or 4 other sites.
No.12458
>>12410Apparently I've done this so many times that I hit the limit on free use of DeepL that will get replenished after 17 days. Didn't even know that was possible.
No.12459
Lolcow.farms is down and without warning lol.
No.12460
>>12459Came here to see if anyone is talking about it. The status page says they're working on it. Let's hope it doesn't take too long.
No.12461
>>12460Is there going to be another CC bunker thread? I might just camp out here.
No.12463
>>12460It's just delayed from Christmas since LC seems to shit the bed around the holidays every year kek
No.12465
>>12464Well I guess I'm taking a break from LC until they get their shit together.
No.12466
>>12460I was going to post about it but moved on and had dinner with my family. It's still not working right now.
No.12467
>>12465>>12466Somehow they managed to fix it I guess, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it went down again soon.
No.12468
>>12467Good, now let's see how long it will keep working.
No.12472
I'm not familiar with the website so I was wondering if there is a thread filled with yaoi porn that I can use for reference for my OTP daydreams? Especially frotting with a size difference.
No.12473
>>12472/ex/ is where most of the porn is. Bit shocking we don't have a general nsfw thread.
No.12474
>>12473Yeah I already checked and nothing other than the blowjobs thread was helpful
No.12475
>>12474I made a nsfw general in /ex/ since I need more references too
No.12478
>>12477a bunch of people are already deleting all their stuff. literally 9/11
No.12479
>>12477oh come on bruh.. i just created a profile there to keep up with nsfw. Will we ever go back to a time where sites dedicated to just art, nsfw or not, can exist?
No.12480
>>12479>Will we ever go back to a time where sites dedicated to just art, nsfw or not, can exist?After the rise of AI, genuinely unironically no.
If one exists, chances are it sells it's user data on the side or will have it's images used to train AI whether deliberately or non-deliberately.
If it doesn't do that, then the lack of "big tech" support may make them go under unless they accept donations or are backed up with a decent funding to keep going on their own.
I can see a lot of jp artists moving to xfolio nowadays, it works similar to poipiku and you can't save images and everything is protected, hashtags actually have use and everything but you can't limit things the way you could with poipiku
No.12481
>>12477>>12478I'm really glad I fell for the digital hoarding meme. Too many artists delete their works for any reason, be it for none at all or in protest because of major policy changes like this. Poipiku was a bit of a hassle to download images from, but… if you really like something, you always gotta save it and keep offline backups. It shouldn't have to be like this…
No.12482
on the topic of digital hoarding from
>>12481 i am curious how other nonnas organize their saved art and if you guys take extra measures to backup the files (i once lost years worth of saved stuff; most i could recover via other methods). i always downloaded copies of my fav fic too but i think i am going to start saving more stuff after hearing the news that LJ will be inaccessible to non-russians (?)
No.12483
>>12481>>12482I never bothered saving pictures from poipiku. However I regularly save my archive on twitter. I don't just like art tweets, I also retweet whatever I feel like, that way once I manage to donwload my archive it automatically saves tweets and pictures that are on my profile as long as the tweets weren't deleted before that. It's faster and more convenient than saving everything once by one, and when I used chrome on my laptop many of the pictures I saved from twitter became jiff files for some reason so that was annoying. I deleted a lot of fanart on my previous laptop because of the lack of space too, mostly JJBA and Yuri on Ice fanart and I kind of regret it because many of these artists deleted everything. But some of them are still saved in the archive I download of my previous twitter account that I deleted a few years ago for several reasons.
By the way, I've been to cons in Japan a few times and knowing I have copies of doujinshi I like makes me worry a lot less about that. I bought a JJK doujinshi from one artist who deleted everything that isn't related to Nintama very soon after so I don't even worry about it. Next time I go to Japan maybe I will buy doujinshi from older shows and games I was obsessed with a long time ago, like Tiger & Bunny, Hetalia, Gintama, etc.
No.12485
It's crazy how it's impossible for artists to have a website like Ao3. I know it's because pictures are harder to moderate compared to written works, but still. No one can make an artist website living off donations where people are allowed to draw whatever they want.
No.12486
>>12485What do you mean? It's called Pixiv.
No.12487
>>12486I guess it's true Pixiv is the closest one but it isn't perfect. The censorship is annoying even if minimal, blacklists are behind paywall, the tagging is pretty lackluster and they allow AI slop. But it's still the best alternative when it comes to all forms of drawings. Honestly now I'm worried they'll go for Pixiv next.
No.12489
>>12488This show ticks me off because I wanted to watch it only to discover the MC was a woman. Haha. Maybe someday I still will.
The only "straight yaoi" I can think of is the game Indika had a very stereotypical BL dynamic between a nun and a soldier, but usually when people call something straight yaoi I find they just mean Hero/Villian and it doesn't have the same appeal.
No.12491
>>12482I use an external harddrive. All of my fanart, fanfics, and AMVs are about 600GB so all I need is a 1TB harddrive.
My AMV folder is 281 videos organized by Series - Song - Name.
Fanfic is 612 stories organized Series - Ship - Name
Fanart is 360 folders most of the art inside is unorganized with the exception of series like Pokemon with I have sub folders for games, pokemon, and characters.
Though honestly I haven't been seriously saving fanworks outside of fanfics for 6 or 7 years and I just archive the stuff I really like on Danbooru instead. I used to sweep entire Pixiv tags and snag every last picture, but now that's just too time consuming.
No.12493
>>12489>>12489>The only "straight yaoi" I can think of is the game Indika had a very stereotypical BL dynamicwhat was their dynamic
No.12494
>>12493The nun is struggling with her faith most of the game and is trying to stay pure and holy. She is traveling through a war torn winter countryside and at one point gets attacked by a rapist and is saved by a soldier who ends up injuring his arm in the getaway. It's basically a walking sim, so they converse about faith, belief , and have a fraught relationship that slowly turns into fucked up sexual/romantic tension over the course of the game.
Ultimately she amputates his arm without his consent scaring him away.I remember thinking that if they had both been men, and you had replaced the nun with a deacon I would have eaten the game up shipping-wise. Like it's got that kind of rocky, morally dubious thing going on, but because it's a woman I just can't actively ship it. That probably says something about me, lol.
No.12495
>>12494We have a separate thread discussing turning female characters male for shipping
No.12496
>>12495We do, but I can't get into that. I'm very canon-minded so genderswapping a character doesn't appeal to me at all.
No.12498
>>12482Organization is something that's still a work in progress… I sorted a tiny portion of my images by whatever series they're from, and sometimes have dedicated folders to certain characters if I have just that much saved of them (for example Sorted\Vocaloid\Miku). That falls apart pretty quick when I multiship though. Plus, I have so fucking much saved excluding potential duplicate files that there's really no way to actually sort through everything. I tried to get a local booru up and running but it was a little too complex for me back in the day, so maybe I'll try that again someday.
I also used to mass download Pixiv galleries using that Nandaka PixivUtil tool but that was before everyone up and left for Twitter, and that saved files into a folder named after the artist by default. So some of my hoard was sorted by myself, some of it was batch downloaded into that method, some of it is in phone backup folders, but most of it has been thrown into folders containing 2~5k images each. Everything is everywhere and it's a bit overwhelming, but it's okay. At least doujin goods are easier. Everything being sorted by (event number)\[circle name] is great, makes everything a breeze to find.
My goal this year is to set up a home NAS and RAID solution and get some automatic backups going. Manually doing it is getting too time consuming.
No.12502
>>12499My irl and I always prefer the opposite dynamic of any ship and we mald over it every time.
No.12505
>>12503KEK the manhwa with the gift dildo that comes to life to fuck the previously straight uke
No.12510
>>12506I complained about this on /ffs/ a while back when I saw there's going to be two different anime like this next season. I don't even enjoy regular shoujo romance anime anymore and this is worse cause I wish it was just BL.
No.12511
>>12510what was the other one?
No.12512
>>12511I think she meant Hana Kimi. Which is so old I wonder why it never had an anime before despite having a very famous and successful drama adaptation.
No.12513
>>12512sage Hana Kimi is getting an anime adaption? Now???? That's crazy. I loved it and all of those other gender bender shoujo manga and k-dramas (tho I skipped through k-dramas for the juicy parts) when I was tween/teen. Also, I don't mind the bifauxian girls and women since it's rarely ever portrayed in manga in general. It's nice to see a short-haired, tomboyish young woman that actually is dressed more tomboyish and doesn't have gigantic boobs slapped on her.
No.12516
>>12514It looks cute! I don't really like watching pure romance anime, but I'll be sure to look at the opening at least lol. I have the first 3 volumes merged in one big one, but not the rest. I finished it on Mangafox
No.12519
Life needs to slow the fuck down
No.12520
Speaking of digital hoarding, any nonna know an extension that can download media off twitter just by clicking a button? It's so annoying having to go through stuff one by one and also making sure it downloads in original resolution too…
No.12521
>>12520It's not an extension, and you need to jump through a few hoops to get it working, but I've had a lot of success with jdownloader.
No.12522
I'm addicted to a weird type of fetish / scenario and can't stop buying stuff off of DLSite, fuck
No.12523
>>12520Do you mean userscripts? Just search greasy fork and check which ones are current. I use Twitter Click'n'Save but it's one image at a time.
No.12526
>>12522Oh no, can I ask what fetish? I'll pray for your wallet nonna. haha
No.12530
I'm just casually browsing the BL game section of DLsite and I need the confidence of this one person who is willing to attempt to sell crossdressing shota amputee art on a public platform with the art quality of what a child would put on deviantart.
No.12531
>>12530Seeing beginner art confidentially posted to Pixiv and DLsite makes me happy and inspires me to be more confident lol
No.12532
>>12530I'm guessing that people looking for that very specific niche very well may shell out regardless of shit art.
No.12535
I’m making AI write PWP of my obscure favorite because I’m desperate enough and howling at the way it uses the “smelled of x, y and something unmistakably [name]” turn of phrase. AIbro, they have just met in this broom closet to fuck.
No.12536
I will sometimes see people say they watch dubbed anime so they can 'watch the show in the background while doing chores' and that's something I genuinely can't relate to.
No.12537
>>12536Sounds zoomer as fuck. I notice the people who multitask consuming shows (eg scroll on phone while watching a show with subtitles on) tend to be Gen Z or younger.
No.12538
>>12536When I “watch something in the background” it’s usually something I’ve either watched before, or something I’m only vaguely interested in. I’m not actually watching it, I’m putting it on for background noise while I do something else. But I still prefer watching shows in English if I can. Anime is a special case because I’ll only ever watched dubbed anime if the voice acting is actually good. Most newer anime (and some games) have bad voice acting imo.
No.12539
>>12537I disagree, I think having tv on the background is just a thing that has been going on since the advent of tv as a medium and definitely since radio was invented. Also, I've seen old people do the same thing you outlined, so I think most people have just gotten their attention spans rearranged now when it comes to leisure activites. Still it is crazy to scroll on your phone while watching a show with subtitles.
No.12543
Kinda awkward when you follow someone for scribbles and game screenshots but then that person starts tweeting suicidal thoughts into the void.
No.12544
>>12536This is why so many shows are filled with garbage exposition now to keep 'second screeners' up to speed. Netflix ATLA deserved better.
No.12546
>>12543maybe you should realize that there is a person behind the content
No.12547
>>12536I used to put anime on while drawing, but never dubbed, and never while doing something where I'd not be looking at the screen. I understand basic spoken Japanese at anime's speed so as long as nothing else is making noise I usually don't need to pay full attention to the subtitles, it's the actions I want to see. I don't know how people put dubbed battle shounen on in the background, they'd miss literally everything happening.
>>12539I had a high school friend whose family were richer than mine, TVs in every room of the house even the kitchen, and they always left channels on in each room even if nobody was in there. She'd turn Spongebob on and then just walk out of the room to show me something upstairs. I never understood it and because we didn't have paid channels like they did I was always curious what was on that I couldn't sit and watch.
Personally I like putting podcasts on while doing chores. Documentaries and dramas. I tend to focus on spoken word better when I'm doing something with my hands, otherwise I get tempted to read things and miss something.
No.12550
Like a retard I fell for the bait and talked too much and now I'm gonna get banned on LC for derailing. Fuck my adhd.
No.12551
it's thanks to this place I was able to see how self-insertion has affected fanfic and fandoms
and it's almost embarrassing how easy it is to point out. Character A is now horny and really wants to rape Boy B despite their character never once showing interest in sex? Gotta be a self insert. It even reads like the author was too embarrassed to masturbate to porn and treated said work as their edging.
No.12555
I hate how pixiv has little to no moderation. Like there's an obvious schizo troll right now spamming the tags with bad ms paint scribbles. Also paywalling the ability to block/mute multiple users is retarded.
No.12556
>>12555Yeah their mods should have some power to deliberate regarding submissions in general, there are also people on the spectrum who can post like 500 individual inflation pieces drawn with crayons probably without particular malice.
No.12561
LC is down again, isn't it?
No.12562
>>12561Yup, looks like host issues again.
No.12563
>>12555It's kind of funny because this is kind of what killed Deviantart's reputation in the long run. It used to be a semi-respectable site but because of even laxer moderation (sans banning porn) they got a reputation for just being absolute dogshit and eventually nobody wanted to use it made worse by terrible updates.
No.12564
>>12556My tinfoil is they let those spam posts stay because it incentivises people to pay for pixiv premium.
No.12565
>>12564Where do you guys see all this spam? 99% of the time I stick to ship tags. I'm guessing it must be in the original BL/het stuff/generic kink tags? I only ever see hot garbage male art the rare times I search a female character tag or yuri but it's usually just badly drawn hentai rather than generic AI.
No.12566
>>12551I'm glad you saw the light. Once you've been exposed to the truth, you can't unsee it, and as of right now, the self-insertion menace is so rampant that it feels it's everywhere (which it is)
No.12567
>>12565depends on what you're looking at.
Generic tags are filled with furaffinity levels of crayon eater inflation. Can't filter out tags too so you can just find semi-realistic infantacide if you're searching by kink and the uploader uses every irrelevant tag imaginable.
Fandom tags get slammed by bad 3d renders and untagged R18 that goes un-deleted even if you report it. last time I gave this site my time was looking at Final Fantasy 14 and it was just in game screenshots by men who think THEIR badly posed catgirl/bunnygirl/lizard girl is the main character of their online space
No.12568
>>12567>3doh god this shit pisses me off to. Pixiv needs to outright ban 3d models because its all badly made koikatsu models or straight up model rips from games.
No.12569
>>12566Kinda makes you long for the days of Mary Sues. At least those were easy to filter. None of this 'male character has a vagina and gets dommed by my husbando' nonsense.
No.12570
>>12566>>12551>Character A is now horny and really wants to rape Boy B despite their character never once showing interest in sex? Gotta be a self insert.This just tells me that the writer wants to see Character A rape Boy B. Bogstandard fic plot. If Character A suddenly has the author's specific mental illness, then maybe I'll start suspecting. But this plot tells you nothing. It's easier to spot selfinserting when a bottom starts acting uncharacteristically slutty and dick-obsessed, or maybe that shit is just lazy writing and the writer only knows how to write one type of bottom, I don't know.
No.12571
>>12567>Can't filter out tagsYou can. Just add -[tag] to the end of your search. I was excluding a list a mile long when I was fic searching way back when.
No.12572
>>12551>It even reads like the author was too embarrassed to masturbate to porn and treated said work as their edging.Is this really a self inserting problem? I wouldn't publish anything I wrote while horny at all but I know I wouldn't trust myself to keep things accurate.
No.12573
>>12565Depends on the fandom/tag I usually don't see large amounts of trash in a row unless it's a obscure series since a more popular IP is less likely to be overtaken by an autist. As a whlle though I think the lesser moderation is a boon to the site, if I wanted something curated I'd go to a booru. I'd rather not have a mod deciding what is and isn't good art on a general site.
No.12574
>>12570>>12572guess it makes more sense when you know the fandom.
There's a lot of self-insert based fan-talk from yn to kin and as a result, you can tell who's projecting vs who's writing a character. And I mean, way more than most fandoms I've been in. And I have been in many. (being vague on purpose sorry.)
No.12576
>>12575imagine calling the creole man nonhuman
No.12577
>>12575Only kinda cute guys are Dick and Jason and both are too masculine to be omegas.
No.12579
>>12575>38. Rumi>MI don't want to know what's going on here
>>12577>too masculine to be omegasIt's great if you enjoy muscular bottoms
No.12584
>>12582The kpop fic wave is strong as ever I see. I don't know how they cling so hard, most kpop guys are so uncannily plastic that it's sometimes it's hard to look at them.
>>12575>>12583It's crazy work that even OMEGAVERSE lists have ethnicities tagged. Now they need to do Betas just for the harmony otherwise I'm gonna heckle the list creator for being prejudiced against betas.
No.12585
>>12583>Clark Kent>Batman - All Media TypesSame with Bucky and Steve being categorized in Marvel Cinematic Universe. There’s literally a DCU and Marvel fandom tag that is more accurate seeing as Alpha Clark Kent is also written for Clark/Lex and not everyone uses the MCU version of Bucky and (especially) Steve. The creator of these needs to get someone to go over these charts before making them. Same with the omega one marking Rumi as a man. These charts make me irrationally angry.
No.12586
>>12584Exposure to kpop leading into people discovering a fetish for asians.
No.12587
I wonder if they tag Indian characters as Asian. Because when you throw people in to white/black/asian it's very revealing when the race doesn't play into the propaganda that they want to push. Like Black vs African. Africans HATE being compared and lumped in with African Americans.
No.12589
>>12579>It's great if you enjoy muscular bottomsI don’t mind them but I can’t see them going into heat or getting pregnant without being like “that wouldn’t happen”
No.12590
>>12583Can't believe Ivan from ALNST didn't make it smfh
No.12591
>>12589>getting pregnantI miss when more omegaverse authors wrote male omegas as infertile.
No.12592
>>12591I thought getting knocked up was always the original point of ABO.
No.12594
>>12591I’ve seen this in certain fics but I don’t remember it being terribly common?
>>12592I think it was more about the heat (then again I’m not a supernatural fan)
No.12596
>>12592>>12594The original intent was that Alpha’s had a dog dick and omegas (bitch males) were normal men. A few months later betas were created to be the normal males and omegas were given the ability to become pregnant and have a heat in a separate prompt that expanded on the original prompt.
>don’t remember it being terribly commonIt wasn’t super common, but I saw it way more often around 2012-2018 than I do now.
No.12597
>>12582It's because they have their own comics and novels now where they're all vampires and werewolves. There's an anime airing this season that's adapted from one. I guess it's like corporate approved AUing so the fandom already has the idea of playing loose with reality in their heads.
>>12591I remember it being just lip service for drama. The omega would get caught in heat and worry they were pregnant, only for everyone to say how rare and unusual it would be if that happened. Then oh no I have testicular cancer and/or a fetus.
No.12598
>>12597>lip service for dramaI realized I probably ran across true infertile male omegas more because I was reading royalty AUs and media with royalty, so infertility was a plot point where the alpha character would basically choose between having an heir or love. I don’t really look for royalty AUs anymore and therefore rarely come across royalty omegaverse fics now. I still prefer when male omegas are infertile when I do read an omegaverse fic.
No.12600
>>12597>It's because they have their own comics and novels now where they're all vampires and werewolves.I'm not into RPS to begin with so it always made me uncomfortable to see people treat real human beings like they're fictional but that does make more sense to me now.
No.12601
>>12597>It's because they have their own comics and novels now where they're all vampires and werewolves. There's an anime airing this season that's adapted from oneTIL. Never heard of this before. Which anime? What do these comics even look like? This is kind of wild to me, especially because boybands can spring up and disappear pretty quick.
No.12602
>>12600anon were you just not into boy bands as a kid?
this mentality is very common in kids and teens. J-14, a US magazine, had rpf fanfic built in and I loved it. Celebs weren't real people to me. They were too attractive, talented, and distant from me. So when a 14 year old said or did cringey shit about them turning red style, it made sense
No.12603
>>12602I had terminal weeb brainrot since I first watched dubbed anime on kid channels like pokemon, yugioh, cardcaptor sakura and sailor moon so I never got into that.
No.12605
>>12598Yeah, even if I want mpreg, I'd prefer if it took a lot of courting and sex first. Making it nigh impossible lets a story do much more with its opening premise before getting bogged down with a pregnancy plot, and I'm sure plenty of people are there for the early premise and want more of that.
>>12601The anime character designs are the most typical webtoon looking things you could do, but I felt like I needed to make this collage to prove its title really is that dumb sounding. I think Korean groups have a few years in their contracts at the start because they put a shitton of money into a band's brand image.
>>12602I tried doing it as a kid, but I always felt some awkwardness, like I didn't know them well enough to imagine how they'd act in all scenarios. I think the Kpop boys release a ton of fact sheets about their personas, so people have a better idea than we had in the 90s-00s.
No.12606
>>12605>None of the characters even look like the band membersI get that this is so they don't have four guys with the exact same copy pasted haircut but this looks more like an otoge adaptation that just happens to be using the band name kek. It's also funny how variety in appearance is only important for marketability when it comes to 2D apparently.
No.12607
>>12602NTA, but no, we were a classic rock household lol.
I have always been almost exclusively into 2D ships with a few movies on the side. I can kind of see where you're coming from in a TMZ style way though, that makes sense.
No.12608
>>12602>>12600nta but I've thought about RPS, but everyone involved seems truly deranged and there are so many gendies that I've always avoided it and will continue to avoid it.
No.12610
>>12609I much prefer BKDK but imagine Todoroki's dick slamming in Deku here kekkk
No.12611
I had a dream last night where Jerry left the Eltingville Club and instead was replaced by the hero of Dragon Quest 11 and he was having some on-the-downlow relationship with Pete. Not sure what any of this means but I can't be the only person to suffer from this vision, so now others may read this and have this stuck in their heads too
No.12612
>>12610agree, he's drawn as a little housewife and the size difference is just insane for everyone. The fact that this is official artwork is what I find most amusing.
No.12623
Feels like all the fandom freaks and degenerates that are at least 30+ just hang out in TV/RPF adjacent fandoms nowadays, while anime fandoms just get more and more increasingly underage and more anti.
What I mean is, it seems that all the raunchy and unapologetic smut is always usually started/done by people into TV (supernatural, sherlock, that 9-11 popular show that somehow has a ton of ao3 fics, etc) because most of the writers are in either mid 30s or 40s and already experienced the height of fandoms before, so they have no reason to change their behavior and simply write fic for kink and fun.
Most post-covid teens or "young adults" (If you were underage during 2019-2020+ you'll always be a teen to me even if you'd be 24 now) grew up with a sanitized internet that is so anti-fic anti-kink that they only end up doing either the most "edgy without purpose" type of fic or the most sanitized boring bullshit ever
No.12625
>>12623I am one of those 24 year old teenagers you speak of but even I've been losing interest in anime for years now, the fandoms are radioactive like you say but it also seems like fewer and fewer decent shows come out of Japan every season. There isn't even any source material worth braving a shit fandom for. The TV fandoms with older fans are still filled with troons and their bootlickers though, so I can't stand being around them either.
No.12626
>>12623i was complaining about something similar in some other thread. essentially, though i myself get older, the age in my preferred fandoms continue to skew younger and younger. it's completely fucked.
what's worse is that the very few 30s and 40s degens that DO hang out in anime or adjacent fandoms seem to be retarded in some capacity, either they make nonsensical twitter rambles about whatever kink du jour they're into and X character participating in it (no rhyme or reason), or they're asking for money every week because they can't budget at their old age all while ranting about politics 24/7. something about anime attracts these types.
No.12627
>>12623I'm 30+ and I will never get into 3DPD media for fandom. But you did mention that those are the freaks and degenerates so that checks out
No.12629
>>12623>while anime fandoms just get more and more increasingly underage and more anti.Exactly, and cartoon fandoms are the peak toxic, one example is miraculous ladybug.
No.12631
>>12630Strong disagree, but I'm not the biggest fan of most standard Korean styles.
No.12632
>>12630Looks kind of like a modern 80s manga style. I like it, the proportions are actually much more realistic compared to the female targeted stuff, which is the opposite of Japanese bara, meanwhile Japanese BL is now usually more 'realistic' compared to Korean and CN BL. The tables have turned…
No.12633
>>12628Wait is this screen real or edited?
No.12634
>>12630I unironically prefer this artstyle over the regular Korean bl artstyle. But it kinda just reminds me of super hero comic book artstyle.
No.12636
I've encountered multiple JP fics and a comic recently that involve "Lotion gauze" that guy A then rubs on guy B's dick and it's so good that guy B's mind short circuits. It's fun to find out about smut tropes that I was never aware of.
No.12638
>>12602I never got into irl boybands or celebs like that..maybe the closest was Zac Effron (he hit the wall HARD), but I liked high school musical in general, and I only thought he was nice to look at in a superficial manner.. but couldn't care less about him otherwise.
I tried really hard to get into the Jonas Brothers since every girl liked them, but I just found them and their fans to be obnoxious.
No.12639
>>12638Same here, I always thought it was weird to crush on a celeb because you couldn't control them like a fictional character kek
No.12640
>>12623>anime fandoms just get more and more increasingly underage and more anti.Genuinely upsetting to me. I remember being a young weeb and having quite a few 30+-year-old writers for all the anime/jrpgs I was into and now that it's my turn up to bat I feel like I have no other peers in weeaboo spaces. I look back to how it was in the past and really envy the obvious little fandom friend groups they had.
>>12634I agree, it looks oddly capeshit but not in a way that repulses me (which is usually the fault of the coloring).
No.12643
>>12641Nah, I like to keep my spaces separate. The something awful forums got actively worse once tumblrites caught wind of it and started joining so I don't want to risk this happening to fujochan because a comment of mine would make people who refuse to adapt to board culture look for it.
No.12644
>>12641Do you mean online friends or irl friends or both? I have irl fujo friends but I always stay as vague as possible regarding my online sources. They're SJWs so you can already guess how they would react if they saw what lc or fujochan look like. I even stay vague regarding social media. We just chat on facebook/messenger or on the phone and they get all their second hand info on instagram through screenshots posted as stories or in their explore pages. I don't have actual online friends nowadays besides a few mutuals who definitely use lc so that's one issue solved already.
No.12650
>>12649Stony was one of my first otps… I rmb a 13 year old crying over stony mv with the song echo by jason walker on youtube….. and then winter soldier came out and everyone started shipping steve with bucky and I was so pissed
No.12651
I don't have enough tism to self-ship/yume so I use canon female characters as a proxy to ship myself with other males.
No.12652
>>12650>winter soldier came out and everyone started shipping steve with buckyI was also really annoyed. But at least Stony lovers got way better fanfic. Both because there are tons of veteran fanfic writers that were writing for them as well as the fact that Stony has way more canon material to work with.
>>12651I do this too. But I at least try and keep the girl in character when I write fanfic for those few hetships I do have.
No.12653
>>12650Did you like Tony with Doctor Strange in infinity war? I remember both me and my mom thought they were pretty fruity.
Gonna be real I never really got Stony though.
No.12654
>>12653This is the first time I'm hearing of this ship nona, I never watched infinity war (I didn't really watch anything mcu after the first avengers kek) so I can't say anything. Is it good?
Steve and Tony's dynamic is beautiful for its friends-to-lovers and friends-to-enemies-to-lovers potential, but the movies didn't do it much justice from what I know. I've seen stony shippers on tumblr who were super excited for the civil war movie and then stopped shipping the ship after they saw it kek. There were also lots of cute fluffy fics of them being gay dads to Peter back in the day. They are literally married in the comics in the universe where Tony is a woman
No.12655
>>12630If this is korean bara than sign me fucking up.
No.12656
>>12653I remember seeing Tony and Dr Strange fics on ao3 have a decent boost, but I didn’t watch infinity war so I never got into them. Stony is a lot better if you read some of their comics. A lot of popular marvel ships come from the comics though. Like a lot of gay spider man ships are from the comics.
>>12654>movies didn't do it much justiceThe only thing I appreciate about the movies is that Steve and Tony’s actors weren’t hideous ogres. Otherwise, they really dropped the bomb on Stony after the first avengers movie. It’s been so long since I watched the mcu, but I remember not even watching past age of ultron.
No.12657
Sometimes I think back to Disney's hunchback of the notre dame and how ballsy it was to greenlight that movie. It really was a product of its time.
No.12658
Looks like I'm the only Ironfrost fan on here lolm
No.12666
>>12665I guess it’s an unpopular opinion, but I’ve never found Sebastian Stan attractive. He’s always reminded me of a methhead I went to school with.
No.12667
>>12662A comment in the thread says as much but when a boy in particular is nerdy enough to actually want to read he will usually just skip the line to adult sci-fi/fantasy and I don't think this has changed since I was a kid. Any "YA" story beats that are of interest to younger men are probably better served to them in video game or comic format.
Also from what I've observed boys are much more susceptible to wanting to watch streamers and game online than girls are. Most boys who would have picked up Elric of Melniboné or something 20 years ago instead get funneled into DA GAMER ZONE where they learn to gamble and say slurs.
No.12670
>>12662This is all the more frustrating if you've seen guys on image boards discussing why men aren't catered to in bookshops. They all talk about it as "women invaded men's spaces and took over", "women have chased men out of the book industry on purpose as the feminist conspiracy to destroy society", "this hobby belongs to men and women are just pretending to read", "women's fiction aren't real books", etc. They really think women have strategically entered publishers to discriminate against male authors, and that they get "strange looks" if they walk into a bookshop now. I go book shopping with my brother whenever we meet up, the last two times he's bought books about nuclear disasters and discontinued war plane experiments when I was upstairs looking at manga. They were put on the front display tables at the entrance, so men don't even have to wander aimlessly to find these things. Guys online are too self conscious and let it eat away any purpose they have in their browsing. "I feel like I don't belong in book shops these days," but were you in the modern fiction section or the history section or what? How come you were staring at tiktok romance shelves when you felt uncomfortable? Learn what you like and actually look for it, you are a customer too.
>>12667It's honestly an issue with teen culture and men policing each other. They skip YA to adult fantasy because books can't just be entertainment, they have to have justifiable cultural value or their peers will pick on it. Less accessible fantasy forms its own defense, because a bully won't try reading it to any degree that'd matter. Manga publishers are trying to bring light novel culture over, so that more male readers are comfortable spending a small fortune on simple pleasures, but male anime fans won't shut up how reading basic prose is beneath them and it has to be more complex to be worth their time. Female readers will read what sparks joy, and pay for that experience, but when I was a teen the "books are uncool, don't be caught reading books" attitude applied to girls too, and not in the girly girl lit way. When an author they liked in childhood published something new, there'd be an uneasy shuffling of people trying to figure out who was safe to confide their enjoyment with. As designated nerd I was like a priest taking confessions.
We have to keep reminding people that before television everyone read. The average joe read silly shit for fun and gossip. There must be way to have elitist attitudes without telling people to stop reading entirely. It's not shameful, it's not daunting, it's just a thing you do for your own benefit.
No.12677
A couple of different pairings popped into my head when I saw this
>>12676Honestly an inbreed psychotic hypersexual seme with voices sounds so interesting kek, at least he can't get the uke pregnant?
No.12678
>>12677Kek picrel happened to drarry recently so I ended up becoming a fixedfag (top Draco bottom Harry) when it came to them just to counter this. Although I don’t mind older fics with top Harry. Newer ones though, they turn him into literally that pic with a dom daddy personality. Drarry’s not the only ship with this fate, but it’s the only one I was invested in enough to be annoyed by it.
No.12680
I’m tempted to play sequel game because side characters were mentioned to be reduced to Drarry in a review. That sentence got me hooked
No.12681
>>12654>Is it good?it aight, I’m not really deeply into MCU ships past thinking the normie ones like Stucky are cute (and I like the borderline shota stuff of Ryan Reynold’s Deadpool and Tom Holland’s Spidey) but if both me and my mom thought Tony and Stephen had fruity chemistry there’s obviously something something.
No.12682
>>12677Crisis Core but Fanon and Canon are swapped
I think it's annoying when people bring race into the meme because some annoying 19-25 year old clout chaser will try to call people racist for making the non-white character buff and tall as thought it's an ethnic exclusive thing fans do.
No.12683
>>12677Nta, but Sa-yan would impregnate him if he could and many times over if purely to have further restrictive control over him rather than any actual desire to have children. The uke goes through it with this man
No.12684
>>12676On the subject of inbreeding, it will always remain an entertaining fact for me that Clive and Joshua from Final fantasy 16 are canonically inbred so you can shitpost about how their ship is ok cause inbreeding is a proud Rosfield family tradition.
No.12690
>>12678This is funny because I am that type of person you described kek, in the end we are all fujoshi hehe
No.12691
>>12677Imo picrel sucks the worst when the characters do already have a noticeable size difference that only ends up getting exaggerated even more extremely.
No.12692
>>12685I think he would be improved immensely by just ditching the clown pants for normal slacks and maybe the granny glasses, but yeah. I like the rest of his outfit. I always think of him as Poison Eridan.
No.12693
>>12686Same! I also love his blunt attitude like in that scene where he visits the hotel and just blurts out his amazement at AZ's height right to the man's face. I'm glad he caught on with fujos cause I've definitely latched on to guys who weren't as lucky.
No.12694
>>12685I love him. But to answer your question he appeals to both self inserters and fujoshi. It's not just because of his design or personality, as soon as Japanese fans found out he speaks in Kansai ben thanks to a trailer before the game was released they lose their shit and made him the most popular character in the game. The same thing happened with Rika in Pokemon SV, she's a cool tomboy who doesn't look like a clown like the other characters but her speaking in Kansai ben made everyone lose their mind.
No.12695
>>12685What's it like to have objectively bad taste?
No.12697
>>12685Haughty manlet with a heart of gold and a sad orphan backstory. Actively clowns himself hanging off a building multiple times.
No.12707
>>12706Old Drarry is so good and now its all blushing delicate virgin x chad beefcakes. I know people complained about older fanworks basically making Draco into a woman, but its worse now than it ever was.
No.12710
>>12707Big fan of dainty Draco but he should still act in accordance with the books, i hate when they completely erase his snotty/bratty streak. I don't care for Drarry but even the other ships involving Draco suffer from this
No.12712
>>12707>>12710>>12706curious, what are your thoughts on tomarry?
No.12716
>>12712Not those anons but tomarry >>> drarry
No.12717
>>12707In early years of Darry the characters were somewhat more equal, they were usually depicted as more attractive versions of young Tom Felton and Daniel Radcliffe. But around the early 2020's, a shift occurred, the fanonization became more extreme, Harry became an "jock" who was a big, muscular guy and moreover he was Indian. Draco on the other hand, was depicted as extremely feminine, as if he were only 5'1 meters tall and had no body size, even though in the books he was taller than Harry. They essentially became two completely OC characters, an Indian bodybuilder and a demure 12 year old girl.
No.12719
>>12714What he says applies to me for sure. There are some straight pairings I like for the same reasons I like some of my favorite gay pairings. I also like several shojo manga with romance. But I also tend to like the more important characters in a story a lot more these days, for instance I remember in FE3H not getting why anyone cared about some of the less important characters that only existed for the sake of gameplay while more important playable characters with proper story arcs were right there, and I also remember when many fujoshi who weren't here to virtue signal were disappointed in the only gay love interest for male!Byleth just being some random irrelevant gimmicky character when Fates had a way cooler guy.
No.12720
>>12717Slight counterpoint as from someone who has been on and off in the HP fandom since 2004, also I'm a wolfstar shipper who doesn't use twitter so bear with me.
1: Harry has been drawn ambiguously brown as early as 2015-ish, so it's been a thing for almost over a decade.
2: Draco has been drawn femme as early as 2002, pic related is an image from 2009 but I've seen the femme looking doujinshi wayyy earlier than that.
3:While Harry isn't a stereotypical bumbling stupid jock he is indeed passionate about quidditch and has no problem being a dick and telling people off in the books during games, I believe within fandom people like to take
bits and pieces of something that canonically happens and exaggerates it, which is a bit normal to be honest, it happens in every series ever.
4: It's often stated in the book that Harry and Draco have similar builds and height if only Draco being slightly taller by like an inch according to the HBP book (towards the later half of the series, not when he's like a 13 year old kid)
No.12724
>>12714I watched this and its "sequel" about Dandadan that was in the rec bar and mostly agree. I appreciate that he presents it in a "it's more narratively interesting DUH" manner instead of spending ~20 minutes talking about AFAB sexuality and queer rep.
No.12736
I forgot how much clutter from old fandoms I had taking up space in closets and drawers until I had to start doing cleanup in preparation for a move.
No.12737
>>12736This actually convinced me to not buy physical fandom zines and doujins anymore. They're fun when you're still in the fandom but if your interests change it doesn't have much meaning anymore. That's just how I feel about it, though.
No.12738
>>12737I still like having the physical book but all the freebies and stuff really pile up. I wish you could bring it all to a LCS with a "free fanmerch" box or something. I also moved recently and was a little in awe of how much space my handful of figures and plushies took.
No.12742
>>12737I guess it depends on how huge the collection gets, if it’s just a couple from an old fandom they can be fun to look through.
I am about to do a bunch of decluttering though so that’s gonna include doujin.
No.12746
The joseimuke thread on /vmg/ is full of the most brainrotten and retarded yumejos I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with and I don't even dare to know how things are like on a site like CC or lolcow.
Maybe unrelated to being a fujo but I don't hate female characters nor do I care to hate them. I also don't 'force' myself to care either. If I like something, I like it. If I don't, then I don't and ignore it.
But these 'disgruntled by the corpo moids ruining pure what-could've-been-husbandocore games' type of complainers do nothing but shit on everything and hope that miraculously another LADs-like drops to their feet. These types of rotten yumejos wouldn't have survived being in 2000s-2010s fandoms where most popular media STILL had female characters in it even on the side. I say yumejos because they all only care about whether something has "husbandos" or not. Most fujos I know into gachasloppa genuinely don't care enough to hate, at least to those levels.
It always feels like when dealing with these fujo environments I have to either
>really REALLY hate female characters with every fiber of your soul and seethe at them ruining the setting and shit on everyone who ever so much acts neutral about g*rls existing
or
>become a performative retard that is like OH I LOVE WOMEN AND I HATE MEN ACTUALLY I just so happen to like yaoislop tehe and I will defend mass produced waifu no.45234 who is actually a lesbian and so very deep actually
with no inbetween
No.12749
>Rick came not a second later, gripping insides vibrating against the beast.
The author of this fanfic I'm reading is trying so hard to sound poetic, but they're failing miserably.
No.12750
>>12749>gripping insides vibrating against the beastIt sounds like he's vacuuming his rugs or something.
No.12751
>>12749I see the vision but yeah that's a little too purple.
No.12753
>>12752same reason that they write non-real life men fucking each other.
No.12754
>>12752I think the reason these types are confused and think they’re lesbian is because even though they are attracted to men they’re not interested in imagining or pursuing a relationship with them (for various reasons). they’re typically actually either female-only bisexuals or just straight. there might be a minority of genuine lesbians who like sfw BL but if a self proclaimed “lesbian” fujo likes the sexual parts it’s a dead give away she’s not actually one
No.12756
>>12755I would agree with this if they weren't all thirsting over men on tumblr kek
No.12757
>>12752all replying anons make valid points but I would raise that these so-called lesbians are doing so just to swat away any accusations about being fetishizing because they're actually only attracted to women, u guize.
No.12758
>>12757This, exactly.
>>12719>not getting why anyone cared about some of the less important characters Never played fe3h,but i have been in both shoes when talking about liking both important and side characters, and from my perspective it's usually because the main characters tend to be boring and have less dynamic personalities, while some side characters are given more unique and fun personalities, but obviously it depends.
No.12760
i understand altering a character's appearance a little bit for your own enjoyment but lately i've been seeing some fanart where i'd believe it if you told me the artist had memory loss for the original character design. because who the fuck is that guy
No.12761
>>12760I just saw a fanart on my TL right now that made me think the exact same thing kek
No.12762
>>12758I get that usually, but in the context of FE3H it's the reverse. The more important characters have full character arcs and plenty of interesting scenes and relationships with each other, some secondary characters do as well but they tend to be very closely related to the plot and setting in way that won't make sense to you because of spoilers, since you haven't played FE3H yet. And then you have secondary playable characters who are irrelevant, not interesting, whether their character designs appeal to you will depend on your personal tastes, their personalities are gimmicky, they seem to only exist for exist for gameplay reasons because otherwise there wouldn't be enough playable characters, etc. Other anons may disagree with me but the gimmicky characters in FE3H are types like Marianne and Bernadetta.
No.12763
>>12757Usually the bi-but-only-for-2D-men people will plainly state this. I don't doubt lesbian fujos because I am straight but only enjoy BL and yuri. Meanwhile with the number of weird fetishes that don't even involve humans or sex, I think human sexuality has more layers than you give credit for.
No.12764
>>12763AYRT I don't totally disagree, but I think a huge portion aren't actual lesbians, especially not when they write BL smut fanfic/creat smut fanart. I'm sure a lesbians could write/have written an original work about gay men (since that sells more I reckon), but I'm wary of the ones who write/create explicit art for BL fandoms. I don't disbelieve that lesbians like some gay couples, but it's the act of creating explicit works about these couples that make it suspect. Also, most translated yuri that isn't straight hentai is not explicit as much as yaoi is.
No.12765
>>12764Nta but the most popular porn category among women is "lesbian", yet most women are 100% straight. Idk nonnas, sexuality is complex. As a kid i felt butterflies seeing tails cling to sonic in sonic adventure game yet i have never felt the desire to fuck nor foxes no hedgehogs.
No.12766
>>12765>the most popular porn category among women is "lesbian"citation needed.
1. you don’t know how much of those are actual women because women don’t watch actual porn nearly as much as men/trannys
2. either that or just women watching to get an idea of what their nigel is interested in
lesbian sex is not common among any other form of sexual media women consume and make (erotica, fanfic, manga, etc) Whereever you heard that “statistic” it’s definitely false.
Also no amount of “sexuality is complex” will ever make the act of thristing for a man “lesbian”. Fakebians are extremely common nowadays.
>>12764agreed
No.12767
>>12766Iirc bisexual women consume porn at higher rates than both lesbians and straight women. They may be straight on most levels but they're definitely bisexuals when it comes to raw attraction
>>12754Yup
No.12768
>>12752Based on my experience so-called lesbian fujo s tend to fall into the following categories
>straight women trying to beat the fetishizer allegations like >>12757 mentioned>”attracted only to 2D men” lesbians who are actually bisexual women averse to 3D men, kind of like comphet lesbians>spicy straight/biseuxal at most women who primarily date men and are attracted to men irl >a very minor contingent of genuine lesbians who don’t mind BL since 1) actual quality F/F content was scarce growing up so they were raised on M/M for same sex content or 2) they are looking for darker or more mature content since F/F content tends to be more tame on average Otherwise the vast majority of lesbians I know aren’t interested in BL since surprise surprise, they’re not attracted to men. They are also (imo rightfully so) skeptical of women who claim to be fujo lesbians.
No.12769
>>12765>>12766I don't entirely doubt this since most porn were very male-centric for a long time. Lesbian porn focuses on exclusively female pleasure, and even if it's shot through a male gaze, it still offers more than so many vids of some dude jackhammering away.
Erotica and fanfic tend to be female-dominated spaces, so it's much easier to find things that relate to a woman's desired experience.
No.12779
>>12763>I am straight butI'm sure you have your reasons but this is only ever followed with something that is very not straight.
No.12780
>>12756this changes things a little
but overall, i don't understand where the issue comes from with fujo lesbians existing. unless you're someone who thinks liking BL means you're automatically masturbating to it or self-inserting. sometimes it really can be as simple as "i like the relationship between these two characters, and they happen to be men."
No.12781
>>12780I'm not convinced that masturbating to 2D BL prevents you from being a lesbian. This sounds stupid but sexuality is complicated.
No.12782
>>12780I don’t think anyone was denying that an actual lesbian can simply find a gay relationship interesting or cute but just that the majority of self proclaimed “lesbian fujos” online are the type to thirst over them and seek out porn of it (which makes them not lesbian).
>>12781being sexually attracted to men does make someone not a lesbian lol
No.12784
>>12662This is such a stupid argument. We have like 2600 years' worth of books out there. Have teen boys read all those books? Plus, plenty of women who like to read stay far away from the typical romance stuff everyone discusses now. The real answer is that men and boys don't like reading and want instant gratification, but they're too embarrassed to admit it.
No.12787
>>12786>>12662That article is definitely frameworked more around educational settings in which case yes it is an uphill battle to get young boys to read. They either skip right to adult books like
>>12667 said or aren't enticed by books at all. It's actually a huge problem and I can see why publishers have stopped attempting to cater to them.
No.12792
>>12791They're classmates and boyfriends. Maybe. Definitely gay either way.
No.12803
>>12794Damn nonna, if only, sounds like a vibe. Also peak ship to celebrate along your birthday
they're so cuuuute>>12799It doesn't have the madness of the original first season up to galaxy, but I like the coziness of it and the new cast is quite fun! I wonder if mappa basically co-making the game has something to do with the general down-to-earth tone, though.
No.12805
I'm very late to the party here but while catching up on some older true crime news I just found out that a while back one of the girls involved in the slenderman stabbing escaped from her mental institution and was going to run away with a sex offender troon who looks like he was born from a kiwifarms thread. Sometimes real life is the true shitpost.
No.12833
>>12769I still don't buy it, personally. I am into women and even if a lot of lesbian porn is made for the male gaze, there's a ton that isn't, and if anything you can just watch solo women. So straight women can simply watch solo men, if hetero porn feels too gross.
No.12839
I hate when i'm talking about a character in a fujo sense and some piece of shit yumecuck fuck comes on in omg he'ss soooo hawtttt goooodddd i wish that were meeeeee
shut the fuck up die die die die
No.12840
>>12839same and i also hate it when i see ship art and there are comments like “OMFG OTHER CHARACTER MOVE IT’S MY TURN” like maybe i’m taking it too seriously but read the fucking room.
No.12841
>>12839Is it weird to thrist over a character but want to see him fucked in the ass?
No.12842
>>12841No? Most yaoi is inherently pornographic the idea of shaming someone for finding it arousing is laughable.
No.12843
>>12839imagine being an asexual dork
I want to see them fucked AND fuck them. It's impossible for me to lose
No.12844
>>12843how is what OP saying = asexual? there's a difference between wanting to fuck anime characters and wanting to have sex in real life with real people. personally, i can find characters "appealing" but there's a boundary when it comes to wanting to fuck them myself. it just starts to feel weird and silly to me–how are you all daydreaming about a dick comprised of pixels?
No.12845
>>12842who’s shaming anyone for finding it hot? it makes sense for people not into self inserting to find it annoying especially when done on their own posts
No.12846
>>12843This is why nobody likes you yumefujos when nobody is talking about you, but you have to make it about yourself "Well ~I~ want to FUCK characters too because I'm not insecure!" when I'm just wanting to see my dolls fuck
No.12847
>>12843as the other nona said, reading the room would prevent this.
Most fujos want the guys in their ships to be into each other only.
No.12848
>>12845That post I was replying to didn't specify self-insert it just said "thrist." I didn't read that as selfshipping.
No.12849
>>12848I'm that anon amd by "thrist" I mean to find sexually attractive but not self-insert or fantasize about fucking the character myself
No.12853
>>12839>>12840KEK I'm a nsfw fujo artist and comments like these on my work make my blood boil, I always ignore it but at the same time have to hold myself back from throwing a schizo fit at them and I sometimes feel insane for being so bothered over it. It's not for you yumecuck, he's never going to fuck you because you're not his boyfriend.
No.12859
>>12853Do you think tagging the pairing you like with these characters can repel this kind of replies? It's like how Japanese fujoshi are tagging everything they draw even just art of one of the guys standing there and looking handsome because they like the pairing AB and just to make sure BA shippers don't see their art.
No.12861
>>12859NTA but it doesn't help. Many people are fujoyumes and their favorite ships tend to be "the guy they self insert into x the guy they simp over". Their whole interest in the ship is based on their attraction to the other guy so it's difficult to find a way to filter them out.
No.12863
anyone else immediately unfollow an artist when they have moral principals about fictional characters?
Even if I did not expect that kind of art from them, saying that they don't draw morally wrong art just makes me assume the worst. I don't really want every artist I follow to draw amoral levels of art, there's just something about them having to say so that puts me of the mind that they must be an anti. Even though, I get it as someone who wouldn't write filth, extreme age gap or saw trap porn
No.12864
>>12863Same, I also get immediately put off their art even if I used to like it.
People who have to virtue signal over characters always have skeletons in the closet 99% of the time.
You don't have to be drawing the thing you condemn but sometimes simply being neutral or saying you don't have an opinion is enough.
No.12867
>>12865what is even going on in this fandom lmao
No.12869
>>12863I'm the same. I've followed people because I liked their ORIGINAL art so much and then had to unfollow/block because they got weird about fujos/fandom in general. The cringe I feel just taints anything they touch.
No.12872
>>12870you made me look up the definition of it because I've also seen it used as "amused", but specifically as wry/aggravated/bewildered amusement rather than just simple amusement. Thankfully, I'm not crazy and that's actually one of the definitions. However, that could be a chicken and the egg sort of situation: did bemusement become shorthand for wry/bewildered amusement because it was improperly used later on or did it always have that as a secondary/third definition? you have made me think
No.12874
>>12870Holy shit you just reminded me of when I also read a fic where the author used bemused as amused. I was confused because while I didn’t know the actual definition of bemused, I knew it wasn’t a synonym for amused.
No.12884
>>12883landmine is already used in jp fandom spaces for NOTPs and things you don't like
No.12885
>>12884Yeah I call it a landmine cause it honestly does feel like accidentally stepping on one and exploding when you unintentionally come across shit you hate kek
No.12888
>>12887omg I want blonde NTR-kun to be fucked in the ass
No.12889
>>12887now i want to read a story about a chad that steals all the crushes of an incel because he is in love with the incel, i dont' care who tops
No.12891
I was on tumblr earlier, and i was checking some people's bio and I love how almost every single "transmasc" person has crocheting and writing as an hobby lol
Like these tifs are way more stereotypical fujoshis than I am, does it ever hit them that may just be women and it's totally fine?
How do people not see this as internalized misogyny?
Fujos are accused of "internalized misogyny" for not wanting to read porn with female characters but hating your own body and your identity as a woman you don't even identify as a man but just a remote being somehow is seen as fine.
No.12892
>>12887What does chara-boy mean?
No.12896
>>12892ntayrt but the word チャラ男 (chara-o) basically means some sort of frivolous, superficial fuckboy type
No.12897
>>12890This gyaru boy is so hot. Is it from a doujin?
No.12900
>>12890I wonder how much gyaruo stuff on pixiv is repackaged top izuku/bottom katsuki redesigns
No.12904
>>12900Bakugo? That guy is lighter than milk tea with extra milk and no gyaruness, that thought has never crossed my mind.
No.12914
>>12904I was referring more to the dynamic, cocky muscular jock x timid nerd, and they are probably the most popular ship in the last decade.
No.12918
>>12914I have to believe you since I haven't watched bnha, screencaps I see of Bakugo look a little too angry though, modern gyarus are generally sociable and outwardly smily and friendly (like the gyaru who's nice to otaku trend). NTR charaos are more assholish but they're gay shipped as a joke.
No.12923
>>12918I mean neither male or female gyarus really exist anymore, at least with anyone under 30.
No.12926
>>12891I thought about this post because I just got a youtube recommendation for a tif-made 1 hour long video that analyses Helluva boss' treatment of female characters. With this subgroup it really gives off the impression that they're just trying to escape from misogyny.
No.12951
A coworker I get along with invited me to hang out today and she had a bunch of anime posters in her room. We got talking and it turned out she was a massive fujo, enough to even humble me!
She showed me her collection and she had a massive amount of physical BL, including a bunch that were in the original Japanese. We shared recs and it turned out she had the exact same tastes and she wasn't at all put off by the more extreme stuff and even had a bunch to recommend of her own.
Nonnies! I'm so happy! I've never in my life met another fujo in person! It was always something I was really embarrassed of and had to either hide or discuss solely on the internet. It's really exciting to have someone I can finally talk to about it irl!
No.12952
>>12951Extremely jealous but also extremely happy for you. I've yearned for that IRL sisterhood all my life haha.
No.12976
I went to the bookstore today that has the biggest BL manga section in my city because I was looking for something specific. Several young women were taking the entire space somehow with their big coats and backpacks and giving each other recommendations and I thought well, it must be one employee being asked questions by costumers so I'll just wait until they're done. Not only did they not shut the fuck up, they also didn't move and it turned out there wasn't any employee in the group. It was just random women preventing me from checking if the book I wanted was there and screaming about how older BL books are problematic because of the lack of consent but they're so happy that more recent manga aren't like that and about how they love meeting other fujoshi during anime cons, like bitch move out of the way you're 6 or 7 people in a tiny corner. I'll come back next week to get what I want and another BL manga that will be released on friday. I don't like meeting random fujoshi in the wild these days, I never know if they're normal or if they're weird tumblrinas with no indoor voice.
No.12989
>>12988The occasional classics detox helps you make even tastier junk food.
No.12990
>>12988Try to read BL-core lit classics, anon. Best of both worlds.
No.12992
>>12991Which JJK ship is it? Is she fluent in Japanese or do you think she could be using a translating tool like google translate? If she's the type to often travel to Japan I get why she would do that, it's kind of like how western artists often tweet in English for their personal tweets but will be very likely to switch to their first language if they post about official releases or going to local cons in Europe and America outside of the USA, Canada and the UK. But on the other hand is Japanese that widespread in Korea nowadays?
No.12993
>>12992>Which JJK ship is it?Naoya/Toji. The ship acc is doki_66_44 and her manhwa acc is wowyang_. The coloring, general physical dynamics that align with her stuff (younger top/muscular, black haired bottom), the way she draws younger characters is what confirmed it the most for me though. Pic rel, the way the faces are shaped is distinctive Imo. I'm figuring she may just know JP, since it's existed since late 2023 (KR acc since 2019), and has been posting in JP since inception, to the point she uses it in pics too.
>Is Japanese that widespread in Korea nowadays?No idea. Maybe it's just a reach thing? Ship is bigger on the JP side rather than KR so she just goes all in on posting about it like that? One wonders.
No.12996
Do you guys think catboys have six (or more) nipples?
No.12998
>>12996Its funny and they should, but it definitely crosses the furry threshold for some people.
No.13000
Is Teen Wolf and/or Hannibal worth watching?
No.13001
>>13000If you enjoy live action shows like supernatural, Sherlock, or smallville, then they’re worth watching. I can’t really speak much on Hannibal, but if you end up watching Teen Wolf, don’t worry about watching past season 3. And if you’re expecting Derek x Stiles to be good, don’t. They’re the sort of ship people only shipped because they found the actors attractive together and the actors baited it outside the show after the ship gained popularity. Scott x Stiles and Scott x Isaac are significantly more interesting but because Scott is in a relationship with a girl most of the time, fans flocked to Stiles and Derek because they were single for the first few seasons.
No.13002
>>13000Hannibal is definitely worth watching for its cultural impact alone lol. Hannigram is probably one of the most popular yaoi ships of all time
No.13003
>>13000Hannibal is really beautifully shot and artistically made. Sometimes it's a little gory and it gets, uh, goofy, towards the middle of season 3, but its a masterpiece overall.
No.13004
>>13000>>13001Agreed. I'm still mad Scott/Isaac didn't take off in the show's heyday fandom. I won't say I regret finishing it, but season 4 is when things start becoming a lot less enjoyable.
No.13005
>>13004Yeah the fandom really glossed over the best gay ship potential in the series. At least it’s seemingly getting more popular in retrospect.
No.13008
Feels a bit awkward buying doujinshi that has been in stock since 2020 on booth, I hope they don't hate looking at it too much after six years.
No.13010
>>13008You can think about it as clearing out their backstock so they don't need to look at it anymore. Lol
No.13011
>>13007Yeah, it gets overwhelming at times. IMO, the best thing to do is scale back and focus on just one aspect. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to do original fiction, but its so hard going from fan content to that. It's overwhelming.
Maybe just design an indulgent character for the stuff you like and don't think about if it clashes. Just have fun playing.
No.13012
>>13007>So my autism is telling me just to cope by combining things I like into my own characters / worlddo you mean taking inspiration? there’s nothing wrong with that. every great and famous writer takes inspiration from other’s work.
No.13019
>>13011It's overwhelming to make a story and an entire world for sure. I'm having fun being indulgent, but it's hard to make everything consistent and grounded.
>>13012I still feel really insecure about taking inspiration like I'm not creative enough. It helps when I do research on what other artists or real world cultures / events inspired artists I like, but the insecurity never goes away. I'm not trying reinvent the wheel or anything either. I just want to get better at drawing cute anime boys in their own world.
No.13027
>>13019>I still feel really insecure about taking inspiration like I'm not creative enough. It helps when I do research on what other artists or real world cultures / events inspired artists I like, but the insecurity never goes away.I dunno about you but for me I sometimes wonder if this mindset is the result of being steeped in 2000s internet cringe culture where it was cool to 'spork fanfics' and make fun of kids who had sonic the hedgehog OCs.
No.13029
Recently posted a fic that's the first of its relationship tag. It's niche so it was expected but I wish the honors of "opening" the ship tag went to a better writer, especially since I'm new to this. That said I can post new fics of them with no guilt since I only have to experience this once I guess.
No.13030
>>13029I’ve done this once before too. It honestly felt pretty nice to be a trailblazer kek.
No.13031
>>13029>>13030I've also done this before but as niche ship but for a whole anime lol. The anime I wrote for only ended up getting one other fanfic, but it was still nice to have that.
It was a GL tho, not BL No.13036
A podcast I listen to released an episode about the anime sub vs dub argument and I decided to just skip it on principle because I know I'm such a stubborn autist on this subject that listening to it would just make me mad.
No.13042
>Artist I'm a new fan of makes a 33-page manga out of sheer OTP-induced frenzy
>It's just dropped on pixiv for free
I feel blessed.
No.13044
This is the last time I bother joining Citruscon. There's way too many aidens and I shouldn't be going to the circus if I don't want to see clowns.
No.13046
>>13045You can always follow asian fandom accounts and block people who draw trans shit or cuntboy. Also just never speak on gender or political topics yourself kek. But I agree with you. Sora / Roxas / Ventus / Vanitas do not have pussies. Cloud does not have a pussy. Alphonse or Edward Elric do not have pussies. Geto does not have a pussy.
No.13047
>>13046I can't read JP as much as that would solve the problem.
But even Asian fan accounts are not safe. Double if Korean. Triple if they're from china. I don't know what happened but almost every Cloud with a pussy or Sephiroth, has come from a Chinese account before a western one. I'm cursed to enjoy fanfiction and Japanese written fanfic is terrible more than it isn't.
No.13056
I hate when the daily_blorbo type social media accounts post performative political shit that has nothing to do with the blorbo the account is supposed to be about. I don't follow daily_blorbo for posts about conflict in the Middle East. Or whatever other current thing the account owner wants everyone to know that they care about
No.13057
>>13056this is exactly why all western made gimmick accounts are not worth following. They will run out of content, the owners will absolutely think the 200k people following care about them.
They'll even think the brand they're pushing is them at some point.
I never follow these because one day I'm guaranteed to see them begging for their friend's top surgery, dead children in some poor country, sending money for floods, or the worst of all worlds, political lead slander.
No.13058
>>13047>But even Asian fan accounts are not safeYeah I've been dealing with this too lately. At least most of them will tag it so I've been able to add it to my blacklist but I had to block one chinese artist showing up in my otherwise good algorithm who just put it out there without any sort of tag or poipiku barrier.
No.13059
>>13047I feel like Chris-Chan when I see Cloud with a pussy. He has a very beautiful penis! Even if Sephiroth uses his butthole.
>>13056A lot of gimmick accounts are too vague or watered-down to have mass follower appeal, I like bot accounts posting pictures of my blorbos though
No.13060
>>13045I wish there was a way to punish people for not tagging. I'm not transphobic I just very rarely enjoy looking at pussy. 99% of the time I'd rather look at frotting with 2 girls than I would anything involving a pussy.
>But every major fandom content creator would probably block me on sight if I followed them.This is my conundrum. I'm sitting on a treasure trove of fic I've written that would be appreciated by a certain ship's smallish fandom, but the prevailing HC for one of the guys is trans and while I would really love friends in this fandom it would be extremely obvious I do not interact with any of the trans fic/art.
>>13044I signed up but forgot to go, but I usually catch the panels when they are up on YouTube. It's a little annoying seeing fujo spaces transformed into catchall "queer" spaces.
No.13061
>>13060>I'm sitting on a treasure trove of fic I've written that would be appreciated by a certain ship's smallish fandom, but the prevailing HC for one of the guys is trans and while I would really love friends in this fandom it would be extremely obvious I do not interact with any of the trans fic/artPost to anon collection. It'll suck not being able to make friends but your identity stays a secret and other people who don't like the HC will be happy. Mute every user you don't like and if you get a comment from one of them you won't have to see it.
That's what I do in my fandom where I don't gel with the majority.
No.13062
>>13060>I'm not transphobic I am. Against online mtfs mostly. A malnourished drug addict in a wig decides to tell everyone "I demand to piss in the women's room." and now when I want to go fix my make up or adjust my undergarments, there's a 99% chance some ape of a man may walk out of a stall.
Every single fandom I get into feels like that, and if they get a single English VA, someone sends them $5 out of their weed money stash to have them go off about trans rights on a stream. It's not activism, it's addiction to drugs and validation. They get more of a dopamine kick from the cocktail of pills they take and praise online than meth. So I gotta spend at least 40 minutes-an hour filtering any trans adjacent tags on every site and yet I will still get some variant of [x] has a vagina/cunt/pussy because they need their work to be special. I lean to western interests more than anime and the low barrier for entry makes the community worse.
I however, do not have a problem with ftm's who don't go out of their way to witchhunt people misgendering them. Or ftm's who actually take the effort to build themselves up and don't need to make everything about them. Which are almost all of them that don't have any social media or have a life that doesn't involve working as baristas and environments with mandatory gender language training.
Also post your fanfics anon. If someone is investigating your account to sniff out why you don't write cuntboy, they are the issue not you. Somewhere, someone needs your work to feel sane and if they dont like it, fuck them. You wrote it, you can and should be proud of that.
No.13080
>>13060>It's a little annoying seeing fujo spaces transformed into catchall "queer" spaces.Agreed. They've got enough sponsors that I assume it's a case of them trying to cast a wide net for profit but it's still unfortunate. I called it the circus but alternatively it's like taking a pleasant walk in the sunshine but you keep having to walk around dog shit on the pavement.
No.13088
I love seeing JP fujos making handmade plushies of their OTP and doing nail art themed around them.