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Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.
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>>4731 No.7760
>>7753They get official pandering from popular media like Gundam and that LoL series yet it's still not enough. Fandom has to bend over backwards for them as well. I can only assume that's a direct connection, that they're just not used to making their own stuff and grow entitled.
No.7761
>>775331yr old grown ass man crying about yaoi kek
No.7762
>>7753It's not even like F/F is that unpopular, though. If you notice, yurifags always base their "wahh yaoi is more popular" whining off of fanfic metrics, but when it comes to fanart and RTs they're usually similar in number (Dunmeshi, ALNST, Arcane, etc.). It's just that for whatever reason himes are less likely to write whereas AO3 is fujos' domain.
No.7763
>>7762they go back and forth from "wahhh nobody likes yuri" to "fujoshis bfto!! we win!!!!" every time there's yuri pandering in a popular show
No.7764
I saw someone saying that fujoshi "ruined" Narou and that the Japanese left the site because of that. Anyone know what they meant by that?
No.7768
>>7753I remember this shit because this discourse lasted almost a week and winterfox got involved, of course she decided to side with the "good women" lesbians who were mad at folks who were pointing out how questionable was OP point, saying that "you can't criticize a lesbian trans woman opinion on this" and i personally don't have issues with mtf or ftm people, but being trans or not, doesn't mean shit in that discourse. Of course people don't want to get called names for disagreeing with someone who is using their identity. Those kind of people are the worse.
No.7770
>>7753>sailorPoor sailor moon fandom in the last few years was taken over by the worst people imaginable, which don't even talk about sailor moon, they just use it for it's girly aesthetic sake, cause they are empty retards that can't like anything besides "muh pretty cartoon girl i self insert in"
They have such a vapid and childish interpretation of womanhood.
No.7771
>>7768>winterfoxoh man.
reminder this person is in her 40s and has been a troll since the livejournal days.
No.7772
>>7771imagine taking shipping and fanfiction so seriously that you compare it to racial discrimination
No.7773
>>7771Damn. You know what, this motivates me to write some more yuri!
No.7774
>>7771Imagine being rich and spending your time shitting on fujos because literally the only way you can get people to care about your shitty book is to pay for people's surgeries. lol.
No.7775
>>7771god. calling other women "knuckle-dragging baboons" was way too much but of course her cronies were looking at the other way to not acknowledge this kind of shit.
It upset me so much that people have such tribe mentality that don't realize they are hurting other women and siding with men
No.7777
>>7775She is no different from a andrew tate type moid thou, I'd rather side with a guy that doesn't think women are disgusting for reading gay porn than this person that literally calls women baboons
No.7778
>>7771Are there any online photos available of this specimen? I wanna see who's calling women baboons. Unfortunately googling just gets me her book cover images
No.7779
>>7544It didn't use to be this way. I blame AI for creating trash porn of mostly female bodies.
No.7782
m/m is objectively way more popular than f/f content, at least in anime fandoms, so when it comes to this the whiny scrotes and handmaidens are correct.
but like, so what?
it's like they want to force women to sexually enjoy things they dont care about under the guise of "its homophobic if you dont" or "its transphobic if you dont", but no one tells straight moids to watch gay porn because it's homophobic if they dont. women are truly hopeless in this world, and this goes for the ones of every sexuality honestly, not only straight ones. even our hobbies and fantasies are subjected to micromanaging and guilt tripping.
No.7783
>>7753Why do these people always either have a Sailor Moon icon or username?
They cry when people say they need to write for themselves but also won't admit that they police their own f/f writers and nobody wants to only write vanilla blushy handholding high school girls first crush only.
No.7784
>>7778https://x.com/ezioauditoredab/status/1811407702729326810She's supposedly in this photo (Burranupakorn is her real last name). I was also curious because I know she has met the people she has later damaged IRL, so I figured at least somebody would post a pic as payback or something.
No.7785
>>7755>>7756Because it's insecurity about their gender. No matter how loud they claim to be REAL WOMEN they know they aren't so they have to cope by roleplaying the most aggressive (allegedly) feminist out there. By attacking women for being allegedly less feminist than them they feel like a better "woman".
No.7787
>>7786Numbers doesn't = dedicated fans in this case. Yuri has more mainstream popularity with men (and troons) but men don't usually support artists the same way.
Darker or more problematic yuri also has a hard time finding an audience outside of dudebros but they're just going to care about coom, not the dynamic.
No.7789
>>7787>but men don't usually support artists the same way.I think it's very telling how generic pinup AI slop of female characters is way more prevalent than that of males, at least from what I gathered.
No.7790
>>7789I've seen a few yume husbandofags on 4chan generating AI slop but so far not fujos. It's probably not at the point where it can generate on-model ship art of your extreme rarepairs yet.
No.7791
>>7790Or maybe fujo's have standards and would much rather learn how to draw than use AI? Times and waifubros are passive consumers who have what they want but fujos have to make their own shit instead relying on Canon to do the work for them.
No.7792
>>7791I'll own up that I fell into the chatbot hole for about a month. I tried one out for the lols to see if I could roleplay my ship and it actually worked, then I got addicted for a while trying out different scenarios to see what it would spit back at me. Obviously it was hilariously ooc and repetitive a lot of the time but there were occasional moments where they actually sounded like the characters and it took the story in an interesting direction on the fly. But I wasn't about to pay for that shit to get memory and there were only a limited number of ideas I had. I also couldn't do my rarepair because none of the public bots had the necessary character in their settings or whatever. When I finally exhausted my ideas I put the site on a perma blocklist so I can never get tempted to access it again because it was absolute poison for my creativity, I didn't work on any of my wips during that time. I didn't roleplay any ideas that were a story I actually planned on writing, at least. I knew that would be very dangerous.
No.7794
>>7791More like most of the porno galleries they scraped don't have the men I like. I've messed with a few AI programs and while they can make Gacha or SJ characters well they can't make my rarepairs so they are useless.
No.7799
>>7798Crying about it instead of creating what you want to see is always really bitchmade, but I've seen enough "girlboss" depictions of the canonical love interest to understand what these posts are getting at. I will say it's better than making her a huge asshole or outright the villain in the fic (common in the 00s), but it does wear thin when you actually like the character in question and are just inundated with "she would NOT do/say that" while reading some otherwise enjoyable fanfic. To me it feels like fujos have collectively had their arm twisted into overcorrecting sins of the past, like a subconscious defense of "if I make her really cool that means nobody will bully me for writing yaoi with the guy she gets with!"
No.7800
>>7799The amount of people who mischaracterize Kairi kingdom hearts is like they played a version of the game that only happened in their imagination.
Kairi was usually killed off or ignored in favor of Sora x Riku. Now it's like people forgot her role in the story in favor of this warrior girl who was in the way in actually every. single. scene.
Tifa and Aerith have had this problem for over 30 years now but Remake's got it bad for how much people have not seemed to grasp Tifa's never been a tomboy badass.
No.7802
>>7799>>7800I wish fujos would just not write the female character in at all if they're not interested. The girlboss thing is an overcompensation but I find it 100x more annoying than if they had just killed the character off. You still get shat on for not acknowledging her existence but at least you won't get people getting assmad over how she's incorporated, it's a lose-lose anyway since people endlessly move the goalposts.
No.7803
>>7800Insult Tifa all you want but Aerith is my girl
No.7808
>>7807I'm not into MHA but why would any fujo hate Kaede or Yumehara? I like both of them. They don't even get in the way of any fujo ships, Kaede gets killed off by the canon itself and Kaidou is too oblivious to realise Yumehara likes him.
No.7810
I never think too hard about the girl. I usually just say that she never had romantic feelings for the guy or this is an AU where the main het couple never gets together. And then never bring her up again. She's almost always a supportive friend, not heartbroken.
>>7807This meme gives nlog energy. Indifference is not hate and many fujos like female characters anyways. But it's not like we're obligated to like them.
No.7811
>>7807The only time I’ve ever seen a female character hated by fujos for the reasons implied in that pic is Ginny from Harry Potter. And it’s usually in combination with Ron/Hermione/Molly/Dumbledore/etc. Although I don’t even blame Harry Potter fujos for the character hate because back then because it happened during a time where m/m fanfic was being bashed on the daily in the comments. Like if someone with a Harry/Ginny profile pic sent me a death threat in the comments of one of my fics, because it wasn’t canon compliant, I’d start hating too. But I’m sure there’s other reasons for the character hate that just built up and ended up the way it is.
No.7813
I was never into a male character who was even interested in a girl so that whole artificial war against misogynist fujos flew over my head. Think the only fujo ships that ever involved girls are the ones for MCs from shounen since they usually end up with a girl. I am into seinen and shounen but the dudes I like and the dudes I see being popular in my bubbles are always side characters that only interact with other men.
No.7815
>>7807>my fav female character is disliked by other women, could it be, the character is bad written? no, it's the fujos's faultAnd I have never seen Kaede being hated, if they went throu the effort to make that shitty meme post, the least they could do is use characters that are massively hated and not those that are maybe hated by 5 people max.
>>7811I've seen it and it proves that the characters that are disliked by fujos are usually not that good written. I mean, people used to think Ginny was boring because of the movies, but I've recently read the books, and the most important moments between her and Harry are written off screen? Harry genuinely had better chemistry with Hermione and I am not even a Harmony fan.
I wish people stopped coping about their characters being disliked and blaming misogyny or racism for it.
No.7816
>>7815It all feels so performative. They don't actually like these characters, they like simply because their women instead what they actually are.
No.7818
>>7816yeah, and they all seem to like women the moment they are the canon love interest of a guy, If she weren’t the MC’s love interest, they probably wouldn’t even remember her name. They talk a lot of crap but I never see them defending female characters that the male in-universe characters aren’t interested in.
No.7819
>>7818>and they all seem to like women the moment they are the canon love interest of a guynot always, in fact, EVEN IF a girl has a canon male love interest, they'll insist she's a lesbian.
Uraraka in
>>7807 is an example, and Kaede in some capacity too despite dying in the first hour in the game
No.7824
>>7802This is not even fujos fault. Even the yuri fans don't like it if you portray a girl as truly flawed and not just a victim of men. Look at how they act like girls like Azula or Himiko Toga must only be uwu victims and if you enjoy the villain side, you hate women.
No.7828
>>7827Yes it's unironically this. They don't perceive men as sexual so seeing them as such in a fanart feels alien and offensive to some and certainly way more sexual than it actually is.
The core reaction isn't so strange by itself I think. Try it yourself with something you aren't into.
I for example aren't into shota and cannot even view them as sexual in any way. This isn't meant in a bad way, nothing against shota fans, it's just about my preferences. Thing is, when I click a shota thread on 4chan I noticed how extreme everything nsfw feels to me. To me it feels like hardcore porn until I realise that I would only categorise it as soft-porn if it was adult dudes that I am into. Shota fans probably feel the same about old man yaoi or orc porn etc.
With male otaku there is the additional problem that they always feel like they have to rival everybody else and "win" the war and war is everywhere. So they cannot just ignore fujo stuff, they have to "reclaim" their series from fujos because fujos sully them.
Again it's like our favorite fujo series attracted tons of coomers that drew ooc of the female or trap characters and it would annoys entering the threads of a series we feel is aimed as us being flooded with coomer shit.
It's that just combined with stupid superiority issues, insecurities and the inability to understand that anything that isn't outright fujo can have a fujo audience or pander to both, otaku and fujo.
No.7833
>>7824>if you enjoy the villain side, you hate womenWhich is basically admitting they have zero media literacy lmao
They don't see women as characters with immense possibilities, but as one dimensional people who can only be baby's version of good people, which is someone that never struggled with concept of good and evil, they don't understand character depth or struggle beyond their own personal projection on their characters.
Also most of the time they don't even like those characters to begin with, I get not enjoying all of the character personality, but when you only like a 5% of the character and the rest you want to change, you don't really like them.
No.7835
>>7833>Also most of the time they don't even like those characters to begin with, I get not enjoying all of the character personality, but when you only like a 5% of the character and the rest you want to change, you don't really like them.This. I constantly see people pointing out how "fujos will make up intricate lore for one dimensional pretty men but ignore the one dimensional women" as the ultimate gotcha to prove their misogyny but even with those shitty one-dimensional male characters they at least have a premise that inspires you to work with them. When a female character's only trait is to either be the killjoy mommy of the group or the main character's side piece there isn't a lot of inspiration to be drawn from. Besides, I don't want to fix a badly written female character because I'm expecting people to learn to do it themselves according to consumer feedback and pull their own goddamn weight. It's actual cucked behavior to think it's a virtue that we as women should just "fix" shit female characters in our own writing because the original authors couldn't be assed to think of women as people.
No.7837
>>7827There is this specific type of men who will act extremely holier than thou when they see a woman acting similar to a man.
Oh, so a female serial killer appeared? They would say women are actually more cruel and sadistic than men and ignore how the other 99% of the demographic are not only way more male present, they wil also twist information to try making the criticized female group appear more aggressive than the male demographic.
Oh, a woman actually isn't getting off on being desired, but actually in desiring a hot man? They will somehow say how women objectify way more than men and then cite examples of "wholesome/cute" male pandering fantasies (most of the time just retarded mommy fetish shit).
Maybe It's just me being over the top, but this kind of male exudes the energy of those kids that enjoyed making fun of others, but when someone made fun of them, they would run and whine for a teacher to defend them.
No.7838
>>7836Exactly. It's indeed telling how men are allowed to draw nothing but endless amounts of fetish porn of the female characters with no other purpose than to just goon to but when it comes to female fans we're expected to rewrite the entire character into an actually good one and then create a ton of fan works for that fixed version because that's definitely sticking it to the man or else we're being misogynists. Free emotional labor being milked again, just like you said.
No.7841
>>7833>>7835They project onto them. Most of them can only relate to being killjoy mommies or nice girls, so they can't handle a female character being different and if you're not interested in a female character for being that, they take it as a personal rejection. They don't want actually evil or morally gray female characters to be portrayed as that. They know how to use vague feminist sound bites like calling her a girlboss and saying they love evil women but they don't want to see female characters who are flawed because it makes them feel bad about themselves. They think all fictional characters should be about coddling their egos, not telling good or interesting stories.