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Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.
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>>4731 No.7808
>>7807I'm not into MHA but why would any fujo hate Kaede or Yumehara? I like both of them. They don't even get in the way of any fujo ships, Kaede gets killed off by the canon itself and Kaidou is too oblivious to realise Yumehara likes him.
No.7810
I never think too hard about the girl. I usually just say that she never had romantic feelings for the guy or this is an AU where the main het couple never gets together. And then never bring her up again. She's almost always a supportive friend, not heartbroken.
>>7807This meme gives nlog energy. Indifference is not hate and many fujos like female characters anyways. But it's not like we're obligated to like them.
No.7811
>>7807The only time I’ve ever seen a female character hated by fujos for the reasons implied in that pic is Ginny from Harry Potter. And it’s usually in combination with Ron/Hermione/Molly/Dumbledore/etc. Although I don’t even blame Harry Potter fujos for the character hate because back then because it happened during a time where m/m fanfic was being bashed on the daily in the comments. Like if someone with a Harry/Ginny profile pic sent me a death threat in the comments of one of my fics, because it wasn’t canon compliant, I’d start hating too. But I’m sure there’s other reasons for the character hate that just built up and ended up the way it is.
No.7813
I was never into a male character who was even interested in a girl so that whole artificial war against misogynist fujos flew over my head. Think the only fujo ships that ever involved girls are the ones for MCs from shounen since they usually end up with a girl. I am into seinen and shounen but the dudes I like and the dudes I see being popular in my bubbles are always side characters that only interact with other men.
No.7815
>>7807>my fav female character is disliked by other women, could it be, the character is bad written? no, it's the fujos's faultAnd I have never seen Kaede being hated, if they went throu the effort to make that shitty meme post, the least they could do is use characters that are massively hated and not those that are maybe hated by 5 people max.
>>7811I've seen it and it proves that the characters that are disliked by fujos are usually not that good written. I mean, people used to think Ginny was boring because of the movies, but I've recently read the books, and the most important moments between her and Harry are written off screen? Harry genuinely had better chemistry with Hermione and I am not even a Harmony fan.
I wish people stopped coping about their characters being disliked and blaming misogyny or racism for it.
No.7816
>>7815It all feels so performative. They don't actually like these characters, they like simply because their women instead what they actually are.
No.7818
>>7816yeah, and they all seem to like women the moment they are the canon love interest of a guy, If she weren’t the MC’s love interest, they probably wouldn’t even remember her name. They talk a lot of crap but I never see them defending female characters that the male in-universe characters aren’t interested in.
No.7819
>>7818>and they all seem to like women the moment they are the canon love interest of a guynot always, in fact, EVEN IF a girl has a canon male love interest, they'll insist she's a lesbian.
Uraraka in
>>7807 is an example, and Kaede in some capacity too despite dying in the first hour in the game
No.7824
>>7802This is not even fujos fault. Even the yuri fans don't like it if you portray a girl as truly flawed and not just a victim of men. Look at how they act like girls like Azula or Himiko Toga must only be uwu victims and if you enjoy the villain side, you hate women.
No.7828
>>7827Yes it's unironically this. They don't perceive men as sexual so seeing them as such in a fanart feels alien and offensive to some and certainly way more sexual than it actually is.
The core reaction isn't so strange by itself I think. Try it yourself with something you aren't into.
I for example aren't into shota and cannot even view them as sexual in any way. This isn't meant in a bad way, nothing against shota fans, it's just about my preferences. Thing is, when I click a shota thread on 4chan I noticed how extreme everything nsfw feels to me. To me it feels like hardcore porn until I realise that I would only categorise it as soft-porn if it was adult dudes that I am into. Shota fans probably feel the same about old man yaoi or orc porn etc.
With male otaku there is the additional problem that they always feel like they have to rival everybody else and "win" the war and war is everywhere. So they cannot just ignore fujo stuff, they have to "reclaim" their series from fujos because fujos sully them.
Again it's like our favorite fujo series attracted tons of coomers that drew ooc of the female or trap characters and it would annoys entering the threads of a series we feel is aimed as us being flooded with coomer shit.
It's that just combined with stupid superiority issues, insecurities and the inability to understand that anything that isn't outright fujo can have a fujo audience or pander to both, otaku and fujo.
No.7833
>>7824>if you enjoy the villain side, you hate womenWhich is basically admitting they have zero media literacy lmao
They don't see women as characters with immense possibilities, but as one dimensional people who can only be baby's version of good people, which is someone that never struggled with concept of good and evil, they don't understand character depth or struggle beyond their own personal projection on their characters.
Also most of the time they don't even like those characters to begin with, I get not enjoying all of the character personality, but when you only like a 5% of the character and the rest you want to change, you don't really like them.
No.7835
>>7833>Also most of the time they don't even like those characters to begin with, I get not enjoying all of the character personality, but when you only like a 5% of the character and the rest you want to change, you don't really like them.This. I constantly see people pointing out how "fujos will make up intricate lore for one dimensional pretty men but ignore the one dimensional women" as the ultimate gotcha to prove their misogyny but even with those shitty one-dimensional male characters they at least have a premise that inspires you to work with them. When a female character's only trait is to either be the killjoy mommy of the group or the main character's side piece there isn't a lot of inspiration to be drawn from. Besides, I don't want to fix a badly written female character because I'm expecting people to learn to do it themselves according to consumer feedback and pull their own goddamn weight. It's actual cucked behavior to think it's a virtue that we as women should just "fix" shit female characters in our own writing because the original authors couldn't be assed to think of women as people.
No.7837
>>7827There is this specific type of men who will act extremely holier than thou when they see a woman acting similar to a man.
Oh, so a female serial killer appeared? They would say women are actually more cruel and sadistic than men and ignore how the other 99% of the demographic are not only way more male present, they wil also twist information to try making the criticized female group appear more aggressive than the male demographic.
Oh, a woman actually isn't getting off on being desired, but actually in desiring a hot man? They will somehow say how women objectify way more than men and then cite examples of "wholesome/cute" male pandering fantasies (most of the time just retarded mommy fetish shit).
Maybe It's just me being over the top, but this kind of male exudes the energy of those kids that enjoyed making fun of others, but when someone made fun of them, they would run and whine for a teacher to defend them.
No.7838
>>7836Exactly. It's indeed telling how men are allowed to draw nothing but endless amounts of fetish porn of the female characters with no other purpose than to just goon to but when it comes to female fans we're expected to rewrite the entire character into an actually good one and then create a ton of fan works for that fixed version because that's definitely sticking it to the man or else we're being misogynists. Free emotional labor being milked again, just like you said.
No.7841
>>7833>>7835They project onto them. Most of them can only relate to being killjoy mommies or nice girls, so they can't handle a female character being different and if you're not interested in a female character for being that, they take it as a personal rejection. They don't want actually evil or morally gray female characters to be portrayed as that. They know how to use vague feminist sound bites like calling her a girlboss and saying they love evil women but they don't want to see female characters who are flawed because it makes them feel bad about themselves. They think all fictional characters should be about coddling their egos, not telling good or interesting stories.
No.7844
There are women and girls in parts of the world who are forced to prostitute themselves, have their genitals mutilated, be forced into marriage against their will, and so many other other horrible things. Think about all of the rape and abuse inflicted on women and girls in places like India. In the west we have attacks on reproductive rights, surrogacy, the rise in "sex work" / pro-prostitution support, and so many other issues to worry about.
And yet these morons write paragraphs whining about mostly straight women making free creative content involving handsome men in their spare time.
>nobody is telling you can't write male characters, you just need to reevaluate yourself and think about if your fanfiction meets our moral standards uwu because it's a big sin otherwise!
No.7845
>>7843I hate that they use feminist arguments because it makes feminism seem like a complete joke. Liking idealized often fictional versions of men is not what de-centering men is about. It’s about having self-worth and not caring what men think of you. Writing fanfic about two guys fucking is not the same as valuing their (the two guys fucking) opinions.
>>7844This irks me so much. And the argument they’ll always use against it is that they can care about multiple things at the same time. But caring about what other women write about should not be on the list of feminist to dos unless women are being censored (which is often what these morons are trying to do).
No.7847
>>7845these arguments are also especially dumb to me because BL spaces online are the closest thing to having a creative community by women, for women, with a female gaze. they are so stupid that they see male fictional characters are real people and think women making idealized male pinups for ourselves is somehow centering men
No.7848
>>7843I swear this was written by a 17-year old at the very oldest. It reads very much like a "I just learned a bunch of big words and concepts" teenage manifesto.
>>7844And this really gets me. Even in the progressive west, our rights are either actively being trampled on at worst or seriously threatened at best. In Asia men are doxxing and harassing female artists for giving a female characters an outfit covering too much to their liking. And these people whine and whine about how fandoms are "male-centric" because a bunch of nerdy women find kinship in writing about their blorbos. And I'm seriously tempted to argue that garbage like
>>7843 is often written in bad faith, but I also believe that these people are lashing out over the frustration and feeling of powerlessness over bad female character writing but taking it out on the wrong people. They know the multimillion dollar companies aren't giving them good female characters because producers generally hate women, so they're trying to regain a sense of control this way.
No.7850
>>7848Oftentimes a lot of himejoshis are lesbians or at least same sex attracted. Wouldn't it make sense for them to like yuri therefore there's nothing wrong with straight women liking yaoi and het? Seems oddly hypocritical to me? And you don't even need to gay to like yuri nor straight to like yaoi so I kind of get it but it's still a stupid arugment.
No.7852
>>7850>Wouldn't it make sense for them to like yuri therefore there's nothing wrong with straight women liking yaoi and This is self-inflicted because people got it into their heads that straight = bad so every woman in fandom identifies with some retarded sexuality/gender label now. That's why you people don't just simply go "I'm straight and think two guys fucking is hot and women don't interest me" anymore. If everyone is supposedly queer, there's no reason why you can't also like yuri from an attraction standpoint. And like you said you don't have to be gay to like yuri or straight to like het in the first place so it's a null point (especially with everyone saying they're a lesbian fujo).
No.7854
>>7852>every woman in fandom identifies with some retarded sexuality/gender label nowI'm glad I weaned off tumblr enough to realize I wasn't some gendie special kek.
No.7855
>>7850Just going to come out and say it that I have yet to see a lesbian himejoshi sperging about fujos who wasn't either a trans woman or well under 20.
No.7856
>>7855The sane ones are based honestly.
No.7860
>>7837>Oh, so a female serial killer appeared? They would say women are actually more cruel and sadistic than men and ignore how the other 99% of the demographic are not only way more male presentI know this isn't a feminism thread, but I will say this exact thing has driven me crazy before, especially when it's about women teachers who have sexually abused or assaulted boys or male students. Don't get me wrong, I think that stuff is fucked up, but there will be a handful of women teachers who do this, but then some men will use these examples for reasons why women on male sexual violence "is liturally just as common if not more!!!" This shit drives me insane. I know so many women and girls in my personal life who have been sexually abused before, but it's just so common place it doesn't feel like news to people.
No.7862
>>7859lmao they can hate and act like high school dipshits while giving misogynistic insults to a girl just cause their small poisoned zoom zoom brain thinks internet people say fujos bad, so fujos bad.
Zoomers are the worst thing that happened in fandom tbh.
Their illiterate ways of talking and their shitty unoriginal humor destroyed any meaningful dialogue people could have.
No.7866
>>7859"Fujoshis hate female characters" the antis say, and then they post massive misogynistic walls of text about female characters (that Fujos like, no less)…
No.7869
>>7867I'm shitting windows. I'm barfing macintosh.
No.7870
>>7869I'm puking MS DOS, I'm choking PC98.
No.7876
>>7866When you realize most of them are troons and hate 3d women but love their 2d waifus but because they're troons and call themselves lesbians this incel behavior gets acceptance.
No.7878
>>7859btw those are probably the same people that post their faces on tiktok with the "non-sharing yume" tag.
Zero self-awarenesses
No.7900
>>7764I tracked down the guy saying this. Turns out he means villainess isekai and girly girl romances with female protagonists. For a moment I was hopeful that there might have been some shift to pandering bonds between male leads.
No.8011
>>7456The irony of the top being so much more realistic than the bottom. It's a self-own meme.
>>7843Why should I de-center what I fetishise in fiction? Can't even consume media for pleasure?
No.8068
>>7456What game is "the average yaoi" screen shot from?
No.8070
>>7456paradise and other generic yaoi rapists are more interesting than moe blob schoolgirls
No.8112
>>8011>Can't even consume media for pleasure?Being straight/bi is centering men, nonna. Them's the rules.
No.8114
>>8113Watch ANY moe anime, problem solved.
No.8115
>>8113If these people cared they'd write their own F/F works. It's judt people who refuse to feed themselves.
No.8148
>>8147For shame, nona, didn't you know DRAMAtical Murder is actually a biopic? Absolutely disrespectful for fujos to fetishize Aoba Seragaki like that after everything he went through.