/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>8555
Clamp was originally just a circle of Japanese fujos making doujinshis of captain tsubasa and saint seiya kek.

>>8556
I know that, I was just wondering what clamp fandom you were referring to with yumes

>>8557
Most of them are into CCS, but I’ve noticed they also got into Chobits, which is clearly a series aimed at men, but as long as they can larp as the kawaii anime girl they’ll latch onto anything

>>8563
>Chobits
How do they feel about the robot yuri incest and Chii being designed as a 16 year old while ending up with Hideki?

>>8564
oh no… gay robot incest… what a terrible idea for a story…

>>8563
>>8565
To be fair I love Chobits but Hideki should have stopped lusting after Chii and fucked Ueda to help him forget his dead robot wife.

>>8565
Do it nona, aside from not being BL, LChobits doesn't even deliver on that front. As far as I remember, the yuri was one random moment but Chii's robo-sister actually wanted to fuck her dad and it caused a ton of drama.
(I guess that one state-sponsored incest BLVN is only half gay robot incest because only one of them is a robot?)

>>8565
Kek, I also thought the same
It doesn't help that male persocoms were a thing in Chobits, as picrel from the manga shows… Sigh, maybe one day
I support your robot BL endeavors, nonna!

>>8568
holy shit those male persocoms are so erotic kek

>>8582
>comparing Madoka and Homura to Naruto and Sasuke
What a fucking retard. She consumes so little yaoi and yuri and yet she thinks she has the right to talk about this?

>>8567
>(I guess that one state-sponsored incest BLVN is only half gay robot incest because only one of them is a robot?)
You mean the Taiwanese VN? https://fujochan.org/bl/res/3281.html#4162 Actually he hooks up with his brother (not his robot copy) in one of the routes. (It has a manga adaptation too…)

>>8582
>obnoxious tumblr TIF (guessing) rambles schizophrenically about how yaoi pairings are based on the guys not recognizing their romantic feelings / denial and yuri being cemented in shame similar to catholicism
>and therefore have different dynamics
>and therefore we can't have a yaoi madoka magica (???)
while she isn't outright bashing yaoi, this feels like a dressed up version of someone claiming yuri = enlightened while yaoi = dumb

someone should ahead and make an angsty yaoi magical boy series though

>>8585
actually it's a MtF troon, I should have known better with the yuri worship and the cartoon alt girl pfp. troon hyping up yuri while shitting on yaoi, many such cases!

>>8585
Boueibu had some angst, but it was hilariously stupid angst.

>>8584
>Actually he hooks up with his brother
Wait, dangerously based

>>8588
This whole time, I thought the brother was dead and that's why he had a robo-brother. Now I'm confused, but intrigued.

>>8585
The thing is angtsy yaoi time looping in both fujobait and bl is a thing done more than a couple dozen of times, it just doesn't have the popularity or the effort to put it into animation by a massive studio like Shaft.

>>8586
Bio is just as long and obnoxious as the post

Yuritards laziness is universal.

Why do yuritards act like they're oppressed?

>>8596
>get yuri brainworms for the first time in ages
>it wasn't even the most popular or blatant yuri ship in the show
>it gets way more popular than I expected and I'm eating GOOD
Just watch things with a lot of girls in it, it's that easy. I'd argue that there are MORE GL options than BL options these days. IME newer works seems to be really good at quashing my inner fujo, she's starving.

>>8596
It's almost as if nobody wants to fucking pander to fujos so they'll have to remain active and create all their own shit and keep it alive in the fandom while yuritards get spoonfed all the time. God. The entitlement is unreal.

>>8582
This idiot comparing NARUTO AND SASUKE to Madoka and Homura when ships like Shinji and Kaworu would be a much more apt comparison and match thematically with the other one pining for their obsession who doesn't seem to love them back in the way they wish them to just shows how little they actually engage with the media.

>>8582
Madohomu is a really rare exception for yuri kek, it in no way represents the entire genre and the anime itself isn’t even fully yuri (only taking elements from it and being a theme)
Sasunaru meanwhile isn’t yaoi at all.

The person who wrote this went full pretentious yet had actually zero idea what they were talking about.

>>8596
The BL pile would be much smaller if you removed cuntboy/trans stuff (including omegas with vaginas) these days. Sometimes in western fandom I feel like the yurifag on the bottom.

>>8596
am i the only one that agrees that yuri gets significantly less content? i just dont care lol it makes me happy that yurifags are starving. keep the BL coming idc

>>8603
It seems to me that yuri gets more bait/canon and yaoi gets more fanworks (and arguably just more fanfic, fanart seems about even). Most of the crying I see is about how the Ao3 M/M v F/F numbers aren't close so now they want that too. I feel like all the juggernaut BL ships really skew how starved fujos who don't often or at all click with shonen/gacha are, especially with squabbles over Ao3 numbers. As of this post there are 115,327 M/M Genshin Impact fanfics. I would put money on 110,000 of them being written by teenagers, so they might as well not count. The himes who cry about fic numbers are blind to how much an adult fujo has to dig to find something worth reading.

>>8603
I don't actually know the stats of male-created yuri vs female-created BL, but for most fandoms, yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone knows this is the case and also just doesn't care, unless you're also a himejo. (I'm busy working on both blshit and yurishit, and I do feel slightly more 'determined' to put the kind of yuri I want to see out there because it's rarer, yuribait and ships rarely grab me)

>>8601
It's in Korean so they probably aren't getting the west slop style trans fanfiction.

>>8603
Yuritards would be happier if they stopped fixating on comparing content stats, at this point it's just self-inflicted torture. I initially thought the numbers discrepency could be chalked up to amount of fans but now I'm pretty sure it's just yurifags not putting in the work. Used to be a fan of a bunch of mobile idol/rhythm games and the fics for M/M games either completely dwarfed or were close to the same numbers as the F/F games even if the franchise wasn't as popular in English circles, i.e. Enstars/A3 vs Love Live/Bang Dream.

Yurifags are just as lazy as the yume and hetfags. Nothing new here, and nothing worth empathizing with since they demand fujos to quit their hobby and put their energy and talent into THEIR glorious, precious, and righteous hobby uwu

>>8609
I don't think hetfags are lazy, they just largely don't engage with fandom and publish original works, yurifags are though and I don't understand why they complain about a lack of fanworks instead of just writing their own.

>>8596
>>8603
To me, yuri gets a lot more bait and maybe more canon content but most fans are men, so there aren't a lot of fans who make their own creative content around yuri. I associate yuri fandom more with male Redditors making yuri memes on Reddit. You also have fandom women performatively shilling yuri and whining about nobody caring. "Step on me mommy!!", "yuri is wholesome / sophisticated while yaoi is cringe", "why no yuri on ao3?!" etc.

Meanwhile yaoi feels more like a subgenre unintegrated with mainstream non-explicitly BL content (key difference with yuri) because male fans outright hate male homosexuality and pretty boys. Women write and draw and breathe life into fandom. Fujos are used to creating our own content so there's a mountain of fanworks. There's natural passion and popularity around yaoi with female fans. I really think most male yuri fans don't give a single fuck about fics or in-depth character dynamics and are just used to consuming VNs that cater to them. But then again you see tons of f/f Love Live and similar IP fanart so who knows? (Even that seems more character / waifu-focused than pairing-focused to me most of the time.) Also yurifans who whine about yaoi seem very numbers and canon obsessed for no reason. Feels like actually just comparing male fandom to female fandom, like observing VTuber fans or something.

>>8607
I read this as yuriturds

>>8597
If I've learnt anything from my time in the hoyo fandom just playing things with a cast majorly female dominant is not enough for these greedy fuckers. They're just too lazy to make anything themselves.

A thing I remember a few months ago from the hoyo fandom. HSR keeps making their male characters weak with overlapping elements. Male character fans complained and got harassed by moids and yuritards. Yurifags would call those fans misogynistic, terrible, etc. But the thing abt hoyo games is that they have a huge female cast while we get 1 or 2 male characters to obsess over each patch, It's even worse in genshin where they have had 1 male for like a year until now but even then it's only two with one being a 4 star. However there is a lot of bl works. (So much that even my own brother bitches abt it to me) The problem is always them. They want the attention bl fans have and receive from each other without ever participating themselves.

To make it worse I’ve seen some complain that fujo’s ‘get the good art’. It's crazy how they insult the yuri artist who are still developing their skills.

>>8603
This just isn't true lol. Yuri is the most tolerated form of lgbt content. There are a few series that have yuri or heavily implied. There is always Magica Madoka, Sailor moon, and psycho-pass recent popular and mainstream shows Like Lycoris Recoil, Gundam witch, the new Gundam GQuuuuuuX will probably have yuri. There is the rhythm game dj4d which released a canon couple also. I can only think of a few (old) shows with heavily implied yaoi ships.

>>8612
>This just isn't true lol. Yuri is the most tolerated form of lgbt content. There are a few series that have yuri or heavily implied. There is always Magica Madoka, Sailor moon, and psycho-pass recent popular and mainstream shows Like Lycoris Recoil, Gundam witch, the new Gundam GQuuuuuuX will probably have yuri. There is the rhythm game dj4d which released a canon couple also. I can only think of a few (old) shows with heavily implied yaoi ships.

Echoing the sentiment of others that it depends on if we're talking fandom vs canon. Canonwise it's true and yuribait cgdct shows are such a large part of anime, but in terms of fandom F/F almost never tops a fandom list.
Also
>GQuuuuuuX
>Yuri
LOL

>>8613
>GQuuuuuuX
>Yuri
Bta but it's pretty much just the genderbent version of the type of love triangle Gundam is used to. If it's too straight to be yuri then it just goes to show how different the standards are.

>>8613
>Echoing the sentiment of others that it depends on if we're talking fandom vs canon.

I don't think it matters if it's canon vs. fanon because I see yurifags grouping all of it together.

>but in terms of fandom F/F almost never tops a fandom list.

I agree. This was another point that I wanted to make by saying the last part. Yurifags get so much to work with and yet they do NOTHING with it. Only complain about fujo's creations and community.

>GQuuuuuuX
>Yuri
I'm not into Gundam so when I saw GQuuuuuuX had I assumed they were making another canon gl couple after the high of gundam witch.

>>8612
I know some people who are into hoyo games and latch on to certain males but it makes sense to hear they're essentially going for crumbs cause that's already the vibe I'd been getting from these games as an outsider. Reminds me of when I played Fate/grand order and I also just tolerated the fact I was a second class citizen.

All this yuri talk makes me remember the period of time in which a Seven Seas employee on /a/ was talking about the state of yuri licensing behind the scenes and why they focus more on releasing BL nowadays.
Of course, the reason given was that despite all the noise and complaining on socmed, himejoshis weren't lining up to buy yuri. And most of the time, the horny, problematic, and "male-gazey" yuri is far more successful. In fact, so long as the cover isn't too explicit, and it doesn't feature loli on the cover, seven seas can easily distribute it via a bunch of bookstores/sites and be successful.

I asked about the ratio of success between sfw vs nsfw and BL vs yuri. The employee stated that it's hard to divide BL sfw to nsfw, so he combined it and gave me such: BL is x2-3 more successful than nsfw yuri, while BL is x5-6 more successful than sfw yuri, noting "wholesome" yuri tends to be on the less successful end.
Obviously, some of the biggest yuri titles don't follow this rule and can in fact be even more successful than many BL, but the small number of titles earning that position makes licensing yuri far too risky, especially when it's sfw.

All this to say, yuri fans may talk, and may even have a more robust and modern piracy landscape, but they rarely open up their wallets to ensure the proliferation of their genre. I don't know why this is the case exactly. Sucks either way for a yuri fan like me who doesn't like to interact with himes because of all the performative bullshit and chronic need to be validated and be above fujos.

>>8612
>Yuri is the most tolerated form of lgbt content
yeah but the sentiment towards something doesn't equate with the amount of that something lol
yuri might be more well accepted because the world is straight men's, but it doesn’t have nearly as much content as BL

actually it seems to me like people who glaze yuri (and often simultaneously put down BL) are doing so ofc out of misogyny/homophobia, but also of trying to pathetically compensate for the obvious disparity in content and lively community BL gets

>>8613
Every time yurifags complain about the lack of yuri content they mean specifically the fan content, and more often than not what they REALLY mean is that they're offended by the presence of BL to begin with and want it gone.

>>8619
>>8620
Do they not realize maybe they get less "content" because they bully the shit out of yuri artists if they dare draw for other ships like bl or het? I never see fujos harass artists for drawing het or yuri but these himejoshis chase out any yuri artist as a traitor if she dares branch out and like other ships. Not to mention how there's much more antis who harass each other over age gaps in himejoshi circles on twitter.

Also if they if they have more food in anime and gacha games where all the male characters are phased out for incels, then why are they whining about not enough fanfic? Most fanfic is for non canon ships because there's not much canon BL in anything because it's more risky. No shit there's less fanfics for ships that are already canon, what story is there to tell about high school girls having their first crush when the anime already showed that?

>>8610
I don't really get why yurifags expect yuri fanworks (by women, because this is what they usually mean) to line up with BL numbers, because there are just more straight women in fandom. Even if all the lesbian/bi fujos started making only yuri, there would probably still be more BL. Every yurifag with a brain knows this and doesn't whine because it's just how things are. And like >>8611 said, male-created yuri tends to be more waifu focused (just search yuri on Pixiv and you'll find two waifus sucking the same mob dick and other stuff that's barely 'yuri')
Then there's the fact that shows with two female leads with an interesting relationship are still not common. Popular ships are usually between leads no matter the genders. I might think something like 'the MC and her best friend are cute, I ship it', but that's just casual shipping, and it's not going to drive me to make fanworks. Does Genshin have any potential F/F relationships that are even slightly as interesting as any combination of Madoka characters? It goes out of its way to make the waifus as bland as possible. Just thinking that two of the girls look hot together is usually not going to be enough fuel to make content. (Usually, because plenty of BL gets made just because of this, but again, there are more women in fandom who think men are hot, so less people are going to be drawing yuri ships based on hotness, because men are more likely to do solo lewds, mob doujin, etc)
I guess this just TL;DRs to: when there are interesting relationships between major characters, people will ship it. And for yuri, interesting relationships are probably more necessary than BL because there are less women in fandom who will ship/draw yuri just for porn.
It's pretty telling that the loudest whiners usually do have the blandest taste in yuri dynamics so they genuinely don't understand why the bland best friends aren't launching a ton of fanworks just because 'girls kissing!!' (Unironically, 'transbians' are just selfinserting and don't understand that most actual women need more than this to get invested. Only MtF I have seen who liked BL was attracted to men.)

>>8618
I was wondering why SS stopped posting so much coomer gooner yurishit on their new title posts. Makes a ton of sense that yuritards are not only entitled and passionless, but also poor. Just like trannies. They don't buy anything they claim they like and get mad when it stops selling.

Thanks anon!

> falling for TikTok ragebait
Why are all of these people so stupid? As if any real fujo would watch or read series like these and think that it needs to become yaoi.
https://x.com/cyb3rsalt/status/1919909805902193020

>>8630
Saiki K already has plenty of material for a real fujo to work with, why would you want reflavored het scraps…
They seriously couldn't think of a another yuri pairing or an otome or something? It's such lazy bait.

>>8620
Yuri is fucking everywhere, and not even just in animes or manga. Western shows and movies are FULL of lesbians. There is not one gay couple to compare to shit like bubbline/korrasami/caitvi

>>8634
Castiel is canon now…

I think children's shows are more likely to include lesbian characters for their gay rep but when I think of trashy live action TV like Gotham, Glee, Umbrella Academy, ect it's a lot of gay male side characters.

>>8635
Lesbian couples definitely dominate in comics and cartoons. Live action wise though, gay male characters were definitely more common in older ones, especially British tv shows, but recently it seems like lesbians are way more common than gay male characters. And that's not even going into trannies being relevant characters now. Like, the newer the tv show, it seems like the normal gay male characters are less and less relevant to the core cast. Also Supernatural had a relevant lesbian, Charlie, before any relevant gay man. The west is definitely lacking as of recently.