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>>8898 No.12285
>>12281That's what gets me about these discussions too. You'd think impassioned fujos would react to people ignoring their otp by posting about it to spread the word, but this is modern fandom and condescendingly implying you're a bad person for not doing shipping the way someone else expects you to is the norm. You (general you) can talk about implicit biases and internalized bigotry until the cows come home but if you refuse to actually participate in fandom activities such as drawing, writing, rping or even just talking about your ship you can't expect randos on the internet to read your rants about how everyone in fandom is a bigot and magically pull "woke" ships out of their asses. It's clearly just a control tactic much like yuritroons who shit on female dominated fandoms because they don't hand them their preferred fap fuel on a silver platter.
No.12286
>>12285imo, if you're deep into a rare ship, you don't really notice people not shipping it, because you and the other five people into it just talk about that ship. Rarepair fujos make their own stuff.
No.12287
This discussion just reminded me that I saw that there are now fujos shipping characters from a bollywood film together. It's crazy because I never thought there would such a thing …I hope they didn't get harassed by rabid Indian losers.
>>12266I still ship Finn/Poe but most of their fics are now as the background couple in Reylo fics. Also, I feel not enough fujos here know about the rather large Abed/Troy fanbase from Community, though it probably is a bit more obscure. That's one of my other fluffy ships. I'm sure there are actually other fujos that ship black characters with other male characters-though I notice it's mostly mixed race couples, but not necessarily black/white- but they might not advertise it because of pushback from certain people. If fujos are now shipping fucking bollywood film characters, I am sure there are fujos that ship black characters from different media.
No.12288
>>12267>fandom doesn't exist in a vacuum. It is a microreprensation of society at large. Because society is racistDid you by chance take this frozen ass pizza take from Anita Sarkeesian? This take is old as shit and if you haven't grown up to realize that society is not the lgbtq+ but at the same time islamic friendly (kek) that should consume fiction with state mandated minorities and disabled people and respect pronouns and all that retarded shit then you should quit the internet and possibly realize that kind of thinking is self hating cycle that never ends, It doesn't conveniently start and end with the group you care the most, and it's exactly how we got trannies.
Fuck off
No.12289
>>12285>It's clearly just a control tactic much like yuritroonsand yuritroons think consuming yuri makes them anti misogyny, even thou incel men (them) consume yuri on a regular basis and claim anime girls are better than 3d women
No.12290
>>12287>I still ship Finn/PoeOff-topic, but I always wished Finn/Hux or Finn/Kylo was more popular since the series didn't give a fuck about his Stormtrooper past even though it's one of the most interesting things about him. I like Finn/Poe in the context of Force Awakens but Poe unfortunately becomes a nothing character after that movie.
No.12291
>>12290AYRT but I have dabbled in Finn/Kylo so I agree too kek. It's irritating that they made Poe a nothing character in later films. Truthfully, I have only watched the first two films of the trilogy, so I don't know the exact depths of how nothing Poe is in that one which is probably a blessing.
No.12292
>>12283You're correct and it works both ways. Some white guys who are more attracted to women from my ethnicity than other women tend to be the craziest and most racist men you can think of. So clearly preferences don't mean anything in general.
No.12300
>>12281We'd also have to talk about a specific type of homophobia from the black community that people like to brush off. It's all tied into American shit where they have to act more masculine because they feel threatened, so gay black guys get treated like shit. The NBA isn't welcoming to fujos. Black women get homophobic at the idea of even dating a bi guy, much less would they want to ship two black guys together because they think they're being cucked. Then even when there are ships with black characters the actors themselves are uncomfortable with it. Finn's actor and Sam Wilson's actor were both on the no homo train. In other animated fandoms where you have black characters being shipped like Jabber in Gachiakuta or Spider-verse ships, there's always people who have an issue no matter what sex position they're in. If they top, it's racist. If they bottom, it's also racist. It's nonstop discourse and no one has fun with it.
>>12290People forget that Finn was reduced to a joke even in the first movie. Not only do they ignore his backstory, they crack jokes about him being a janitor and his first scene as a free man is drinking from the same trough as a fucking pig. God, that franchise sucked.
No.12317
>>12300tbf black women have a fair reason to not want to date bi guys. bi black men in their communities were the main reason they're the largest population group of women with HIV/AIDS, and the fact many of them are still DL to this day makes it hard to trust bi guys.
No.12320
>>12300Now people are making fun of Jabber fans for wanting him to have a sad backstory or for shipping him with Zanka. Make up your minds, do you want people to care about a black dude and ship him or not? Whenever fandom does treat a black character the same way they'd treat a Japanese dude in their ships, it's a problem. These people are only in fandom to bully people. It doesn't help that the online left thinks racism is fine if its coming from a black person, or that homophobia is cool if it's a black person because they're the most oppressed. Every group has to check themselves for bigotry except black people.
>>12317Proving their point.
No.12321
>>12317tbh I don't want to date a bi guy because they're vain as fuck. Tried it when I was experimenting, but the thought of being left for another guy stings a lot more than a guy getting dumped for a girl. And if they're not vain they're catty in a way I don't really get along with. Just my experience.
No.12342
>>12283Ngl, race was never a big deal for me when it comes to attraction. What really turns me off is signs of massive infertility or being super unhealthy. The only issue with fandom is that most series feature white and east Asian characters, ofc most of the ships will feature only those since it's a number games and sometimes the result of most fandom goers being white girls. What do you expect a white girl to even like besides white men? I really do hate it when some fans are just simping for a white guy and the black side of the community tries to call him mid because reasons? Maybe the reason he's mid is because he's not their type? Go support black celebs if they care that much about diversity.
No.12369
Semi related but I never understood why it was acceptable for black people to be racist about Asians when it comes to media, and they call women all types of slurs and be homophobic and that's all fine because they're the most oppressed? All this from leftists who would witch hunt anyone for not drawing Marina from Splatoon dark enough.
No.12373
>>12369Going to assume you're non-black but look at all the people who were allowed to say it.
I'll give you one hint as to what they have in common (two part answer). And fyi, it's hardly accepted considering how even though some were allowed fame, non-blacks were always more critical and less open to black centric TV, music, movies, dating, and just about all normally white-centric media. There are people today who'd sooner listen to kpop corporate mandated slop but will claim that they can't enjoy black music despite them being the same thing. Everyone seems to have forgotten 2020's black and white text posts about korean racism. Nothing's genuinely accepted, just tolerated and repurposed.
No.12375
>>12369because as you said they are on the last totem pole of victimization so they are allowed to be misogynistic and homophobic.
>>12373Uh uh, as much as I dislike kpop slop I never heard korean music talk about women the way I heard black rappers talk about women.
No.12377
>>12375Because they have a different culture surrounding women? Duh?
They've got massive incel problems but their women wont just take it either. You may wonder- then how come black women take it. And the answer is that it's just not the same.
No.12378
Just say you don't like black people. Everyone else does. Not sure how strong/lax fujochan mods are with open racism but it's an anonymous image board. You don't have to pretend to fight for feminism. You can just say what you feel.
No.12385
>>12373Black people do nothing but talk about how horrible Koreans are but make excuses when black people are racist. Even white people get more of a pass.
>>12377"Our misogyny is different and better than their misogyny because we're the ultimate victims so it's okay". Even Korean misogyny can be tied back to oppression like a lot of other cultures, so what?
>>12378But being racist against Asians and other groups is accepted, especially if you say it's to defend black people.
No.12386
>>12378Sorry, but using "muh imageboard culture" to excuse blatant racism doesn't get a pass here, nor should it anywhere in this post-Epstein world where 4chan's /pol/ was always a Mossad psyop.
No.12387
>>12386I'd agree except then racism shouldn't be accepted at all, and not only when it's about black people. It's not more okay to be racist about Asians just because you consume their media and can't find a better way to criticize it. The same thing goes for all the homophobia on here.
No.12388
>>12387That's what I said though. I don't condone any form of racism, sexism nor homophobia, and I don't think they should be accepted here ever because first of all it's inhumane behavior that should never be tolerated and secondly it attracts the worst kind of edgelords and soon we will be ridden with pornsick men gushing about their """yaoi""" i.e. femboy traps because they're too misogynist to goon to women. The people who claim "it's just imageboard culture" are newfags to the core, the bigotry didn't start on 4chan until the mid 2010s when stormfront neonazis took over /pol/ and /r9k/ and their ideals spread over to every other board like a mind virus, doing revisionism of imageboards being all about white supremacy when Anonymous used to target groups like Scientology and Westboro Baptist Church specifically for being oppressive and exploitative towards underprivileged people.
No.12392
>>12391the whole spergout over genderbending the past decade is extremely weird to me, especially given how common it is to troonify characters anyways in fandom.
No.12393
>>12389>turned into /pol/ litenot even a little. not in the least.
>>12391the vast difference in the amount of M -> F genderbends compared to F -> M is already pretty crazy. I’ve seen so many people do yuribends and then obsess over it and post more about it than the actual canon male versions but the inverse of that is so incredibly rare. yet some yuri fans have such an insane persecution complex over it. it makes no sense.
No.12395
>>12393Speaking of, can anyone explain to me why so many himes seem so upset about people shipping genderbent yuri of BL ships? I love turning my blorbos into lesbians, but for some reason that seems frowned upon? lok
No.12396
>>12395I guess they perceive it as taking away attention from the actual femslash ships? It's like, okay so the person does like yuri but instead of creating content for the actual yuri ships they've just taken the popular m/m ship and genderbent it. In a way to them I guess it's like looking down on those characters "these genderbent males are more interesting to me than the actual females". But it could also be himes just not liking the way fujos approach relationships and then the genderbent ship reflecting it and suddenly the guru is "corrupted" in some way.
No.12397
>>12169It's funny, I remember when they harassed a youtuber for saying something like this about football or something on twitter several years ago (I don't remember who, but it did happen). Now it's their biggest comeback against fujos lmao they're such hypocrites.
>>12395I've seen many stupid reasons but the most common is what others said, it's erasing women. But another dumb reason I saw is that it's 'transphobic'.
I do see them happy when male characters are genderbent tho… always saying the character is 'better'. So they're just virtue signalling under the guise of protecting their favorite gooning material.
But to be fair, since I'm from this fandom, I have seen twt enstars fans getting pressed over genderbending the boys because it's 'transphobic', so it can happen both ways.
No.12398
>>12397>I've seen many stupid reasons but the most common is what others said, it's erasing women. God I hate this fucking argument, especially when it's about an actual BL IP. "Blah blah blah women belong in BL blah blah you're erasing them blah misogyny! waaah bisexuality exists." Shut the fuck up and quit trying to put your het and/or yume bullshit in BL
No.12399
>>12392And when Fate and other otaku shit turns men into cute anime girls they get called feminists.
No.12400
I don't understand how genderbends are transphobic even within troon logic.
>>12396>these genderbent males are more interesting to me than the actual femalesI wish women would outright just say yeah to this. There's nothing wrong with being straight. That does not mean you think women irl are lesser than men.
No.12402
>>12398Idk why they want women in the bl they claim is so sexist. Also, I keep seeing yumes and hetshippers claiming that fujos always do this by trying to force bl ships in their media. Girl I am NOT reading your harem/otome game cringe fest.
>>12399It's always funny when those people see the vn screenshots of Shirou being sexist and those ppl are like, "HWHAT?!?!?"
>>12400The argument I used to see was that it was 'conforming to binary gender norms'. I'm having trouble explaining it, but basically, they're trying to erase genitalia from the picture of what makes a woman a woman or a man a man.
So by genderbending and making a character the opposite gender is wrong because you're defining what gender should be, and theoretically, that character should be trans because genitalia or body doesn't define your gender.
I hope I explained that well enough. I had several strokes trying to remember the shitty arguments I used to see back then.
>I wish women would outright just say yeah to this.It's sad, but a lot of women feel the need to be inclusive and performative because people are so cruel to women who are open about what they like and don't like. That's why a lot of women make excuses for shit that really doesn't matter and you get situations like yuritards attacking fujos for 'lame' excuses. Everyone wants access to us, but they don't truly respect women.
No.12404
>>12403Go back to lolcow already
No.12405
>>12403>”nonstop seething over blacks”>check posts>racism is wrong. racism is bad. idk why people call others racist over stuff like shipping.do you know /pol/tards are even like? lol
No.12408
>>12392Unrelated to fujoism (sorta…) but let me tell you about the current shitshow happening in Uma fandom.
Genderbending has always been a thing in any fandom, be it MTF or FTM. Even as a long-time 2hufag, I saw a fair share of 2hu girls turned into guys just fine for several decades now.
Of course, with Uma being such a hodgepodge of demographics, there's a couple of 'those' types of people into it that have to turn everything they like into trans.
Uma is in an interesting position because a lot of the horses are actually male irl, but for all intents and purposes, an uma MUSUME is always a girl. Even the setting goes as far as to say basically only girls can become uma MUSUME.
Wanting to see these cute girls as male horses can be interesting, right? It's the common curiosity of genderbending. But gendies have tons of issues with genderbending over it being 'transphobic' or whatever garbage and genderbending becomes equal to "transfication" to them. Because obviously, "transitioning" is like the irl equivalent of genderbending yourself right? It's much more realistic and rooted in queerness, whatever the fuck.
Therefore this results in people just not doing standard simple 'cute girl as boy' genderbends anymore, but chopped tits tboys. It has to be a tboy, always, more than often due to projection.
And honestly, this is also what happens in fujo media as well except the 'transfication' isn't considered a genderbend.
No.12412
>>12411I've only watched 3 min of the video but I assumed it goes into the same arguments other people have already made about Jinx.
Honestly Jinx is not as transgressive as content creators like to make it sound. Most of the pearl clutching comes from people not familiar with original BL works because the rape, abuse, and even redemption arcs are very run of the mill even for BG genre.
No.12413
>>12411I can't bear to watch the video for the cringe of listening to some NPC whine about m-muh romanticization of violence in BL again but Jinx's issues aren't in the seme consistently raping the bottom because that's literally why I started reading it but the really bad pacing, the seme being an unlikable manbaby roidpig and a story that seems to go nowhere. I read it for a few years but eventually decided to drop it because it's just not that good of a series. I wish the conversation around these series wasn't always either "if you read this you support and enable rape irl" or "if you don't like this you're a pissbaby clutching pearls" but actually discussed the construction of the story and the characters.
No.12415
>>12413Do you have other rape BL recs with better pacing? I love rape in BL
No.12418
>>12408Is that the little bits of discourse I keep seeing on my feed? ffs man. I'm happy I made a new account to avoid this shit. I love uma musume, but I'm afraid of interacting with the fandom because of all the incels and mean yuri fans. It sucks, though because I really want someone to chat with as I'm really obsessed right now. I've seen a lot of genderbent art of the male horses but as expected of the west they have to ruin it… And not to mention the amount of moid hysteria I've been seeing the past few days is because of these fuckers. I hate them all why can't they be normal? Fujoshi get the tiniest bit of hate for being a little to excited, while epsteins dicples and chrischans ruin fanspaces literally everyday.
Also what's up with himejoshi pushing troons? I feel bad for real lesbians and bi women because they have to deflect mentally ill cock now while looking for girls to date. Like I've seen people actually upset when it's implied that lesbians don't like men from gendies.
>Because obviously, "transitioning" is like the irl equivalent of genderbending yourself right? It's much more realistic and rooted in queerness, whatever the fuck.I never thought about it like that, you're so right. I think they're just obsessed with being forever victims of whatever problems they make for themselves or they just wanna be considered 'special and different'.
>>12411>looks at description and comments>"This video is a final for a class I have."Yeah, I'm not watching that shit. I'm already cringing. I listened to her voice, and she sounds like a stereotype of a quirkchungus tumblr enby.
How do people do this shit? I would die of embarrassment from making a dedicated presentation on some shitty manwha/manga that all the normies would have no idea about otherwise. Moralfags preach too much. In fact, they probably got more people to read it to see what's up.
No.12424
>>12408is there a fandom name for the male uma musume? there has to be some kind of community for it..
No.12443
>>12411It’s kind of funny how terms like sexualization, fetishization, and romanticization always get thrown at BL specifically. You almost never see that same energy directed at the thousands of mediocre straight romance stories where the male lead is basically an aggressive “alpha” or worse. Most people just laugh those off instead of actually discussing them seriously. The only youtuber that got close was the second story I think.
At this point, it really feels like BL fans are just the scapegoat in fandom drama. People accuse them of sexualizing men or shipping real people, but when something actually weird happens in real life like that guy getting groped at the book convention, it’s never fujos but everybody else.
There’s also a clear double standard. Sexualizing real men seems fine if it's not a fujo, but fujos even mentioning a fictional character in a slightly nsfw way gets some people riled up.
The only real receipt fujos ever got was the yaoi paddles I think and even then it wasn't really a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
No.12453
>>12452FTM are so fucking repulsive. No one wants to fuck you except pump n dump moids. I have zero pity for them and avoid their fancontent like the plague.
No.12457
>>12385Are you stupid, every other black woman I know is either studying or used to study korean, no one dick rides their culture the way black women do, be real
No.12459
>>12457that anon is probably stuck in the 90s where blacks and koreans had beef with each other.
No.12460
>>12459I think it depends where you are, but there's still some hostility between asian and black populations in the US. Hate crime statistics back this up.
>>12453I feel bad for them sometimes but then its like… do they really think their nasty boyfriends think they're men? Sis! He's with you because you're easy. Stop clogging up my search results with hetslop!