/ot/ - Off-Topic

>>8185
Why do you see ads? I use blockers since 2010 or so, never saw an ad since then, not even on youtube. uBlock and the likes can even elements that aren't ads but annoy you, like headers and shit.

>>8188
Reading anything R18 on my PC isn't really an option as it's not in my room so I use my phone. But I just found out you can install ad blockers for iPhone after believing otherwise for years kek.

I'm so fucking sure before going to sleep I had seen a thread or post about a manga with a 30yo something salaryman seme and his boytoy uke whatever and now I cant fucking find it. It was 4 pictures and the covers of a manga and it was posted here on fujochan. Did I hallucinate that?

>>8186
I know the reason, like I said we used to go around telling newcomers it all the time. What I didn't know was that English speaking fandom stopped making separate tweets that begin with "RT" to comment on things, and JP fandom seems to be QRTing or not typing RT anywhere.

>>8185
Have you tried one of the tachi desktop apps? It's not great for browsing but it removes seeing any adverts from the webpages and just grabs the page images. You could find what you want to read then load it through the client.
>>8189
Ah. I've only ever used android, so I have no idea but if firefox is available as a browser on iPhone that allows you to put addons on it like on desktop if you want that.

>>8192
>What I didn't know was that English speaking fandom stopped making separate tweets that begin with "RT" to comment on things
NVM then I misunderstood. I didn't know it was a thing. I avoided socmedia for the longest time and only joined twitter in 2015 and only as follower that saves Japanese fanart so I never encountered these posts.
The Japanese I see are all still doing the RT thing though. Though sometimes they might not say "RT", but it's obviously referring to the former retweet. I like it.
>>8187
Second what >>8192 said. Download Suwayomi (basically tachiyomi for desktop). It accesses every manga aggregator that exists and you can compose a single library out of all the manga you read regardless of the source site. Much handier than using multiple websites and libraries and you can download easily too and don't have to use the crappy readers like that of mangadex.
>>8189
Not sure how phones, let alone apple stuff, work but technically addons shouldn't be an issue if you use a browser as the other anon said. I might talk shit though because I don't use phones.

I watched a video about Club Penguin's history and I got the itch to play it again, I played it so much as a kid so it'd be cute to go down memory lane. So I hop on the most popular private server, Club Penguin Journey, go to the gift shop and I see they're selling a "trans pride scarf". Nonnas I am tired, I just wanted to replay some penguin flash games. Tho I will say, I'm on the most popular server and it seems the community is just hanging around on the Town and Welcome Room with the dancing animation doing nothing else. No one wanting to do Card Jitsu in the Dojo? Or do a Sled Race? Just spam "Like my Igloo"? Okay then. Hopefully I just logged in at a wrong time, it's cool the devs are constantly doing events and parties, but idk why I feel surprised a niche community with dedicated devs needs pride flags. I felt the same disappointed with ToonTown Rewritten and Corporate Clash. My fun chatroom childhood games attract these kind of people I guess. Sure, it could be nostalgia speaking, these kind of games are more magical as a kid, but I don't remember pride flags or rooms being filled with people doing nothing while others had no one.

>>8209

>or rooms being filled with people doing nothing while others had no one.

I have a feeling it's a similar situation to things like ponytown. Most people on these kinds of things just go on there to have something in the background while they're drawing or watching youtube.

>>8209

>go to the gift shop and I see they're selling a "trans pride scarf".

a lot of devs and people into programming these days are some flavour of troon furry so i imagine that's why.

>>8210
At least in PonyTown there's literally nothing to do so I understand that. Having an online game that is filled with minigames and things to do for the background is crazy to me, but it's more personally cuz I couldn't be able to do it kek
>>8211
I know but it still makes me sad, Club Penguin has a soft spot in my heart so to see it have tranny shit makes me very annoyed.

>>8212
>to see it have tranny shit makes me very annoyed
I know what you mean. Like every time I think troonism is going out of style, I get blasted with a reminder that it’s still popular. And to see it in a game that had no reference to sexuality or gender originally and was made for children is just gross to me.

>>8213
>I know what you mean. Like every time I think troonism is going out of style, I get blasted with a reminder that it’s still popular.

i think it's here to stay.

>>8214
I think there will be more and more open criticism of troonism among the general population while the media quietly stops promoting it as much. Troons will get less and less popular even if they still exist. At least that's my hope. There's more general skepticism than ever since the troon movement started about the effects of hormones. If the terrible effects of T on women become publicized, it would cripple the movement. Every TIF wouldn't take T or grapple with the fact that it's damaging their body.

>>8215
For like, two generations you know- post segregation and widespread media, black people had an invincibility shield. Every cartoon needed a black kid. Every TV show needed black people in positive roles. Horror movies became memes for black guys never surviving, ect. And now Indians, lesbians, and in general non-Americans are getting that.

Around 2017 black people lost that shield, despite the history predating it, and they aren't special anymore. As /pol/ as this sounds, we're going to have to endure potentially two generations of pedestal protected treatment before they pull the plug and all of "their" terms turn into points of ridicule and slang. (woke for example)

It's like watching an embarrassing parody of the black panther party. Be loud, proud, but instead of dignity and learning law it's dressing like a clown and being aggressively "my identity" in every space possible. And the worst part is, it's mostly children and people under 30 being like this. You can't tell little Eric Cartmans to be normal because child abuse, transphobia, homphobia ect.

Everything's on the wrong foot and it's genuinely gonna get worse.

>>8216

you don't think trump is going to work on getting it out of american media?

>>8217
There will never Hayes Code to dictate how television is made again.

IPs listen to investors, investors invest in stupid shit. No investor is going to fund an 'old hollywood' movie or television series. Especially when streaming services greenlight flop after flop. Even Korea is pandering now because just a single extra half percent of profit's still profit. Which I find funny, because non-koreans and poor people get the same treatment as the joke minority/person who dies.

Fucking cylindrical history.

>>8218
While I understand your cynicism, there is indeed a small shift happening with trannies. Ever since Republicans won so much, companies have been dropping troons little by little. Not only pics related as an example, but Mark Zucc also gender is an outdated discourse and that he wants it to not be a priority in his website (source on that https://x.com/esaagar/status/1876612227807236310). Trump also signing an executive order that states men cannot be women and women cannot be men is huge and he also just signed today an executive for trannies in women's prisons to be transferred to men's prisons.
Of course I don't think Trump is a god emperor for this or that Zucc is doing it in good faith and it'll take a while for gender ideology to disappear from the general population, but it's a start and if newer generations start thinking trannies are lame and gross then there'll be hope they don't fall for this nonsense.

>>8220
If invincibility gets cancelled for media that isn't all pandering within THIS gen, or five years it will be an absolute miracle. Provided it doesn't resurge like Godzilla.

I retreat to JP media to avoid it all but even their isolation bubble is starting to crack. They've done it right since the beginning, I don't want to see another Grell Sutcliff. Which turned a deranged okama into literally me representation.

>>8218
Genuine question.
How do we deal reconcile our hatred of trannies in media and our love of yaoi???

The more boys love media we get, the more media with troons in it is made bc companies r going to feel safer with releasing general lgbt content.

I'm probably missing something but that's just my thoughts.

>>8220
The big problem is that transexuals are how republicans test how much shit they can get away with, right now you might thing that it's good because it targets gendies, but let them and soon enough we'll end up like fujos in china getting jailed for writing gay porn.

>>8221
Is the Grell thing actually canon? I haven't seen/read all of Black Butler, but I always thought it was a headcanon that English fandom forced on everyone lest they get ostracized.

>>8222
>The more boys love media we get, the more media with troons in it is made
I mean, I personally haven't really seen a surge in BL adding troon main characters, at worst if they're present they're secondary background characters. Deep down, people still understand that fujos like yaoi because the characters in it are men with dicks and balls. Japan has yet to add cuntboys to BL en masse, the only time I see them is on DLsite fetish comics. Then again, that all depends on JP creators not conceding to Western sensibilities.

>>8223
Also a great point. Republicans aren't our friends, aren't they already trying to take away gay marriage?

>>8222
I don't give a fuck about random cartoons that I'm never going to watch, I just don't want vaginas in my BL. Which seems like it's only a problem in western made VNs, comics etc.
I'm more annoyed at transbending in fandom than trans stuff being present in original works.

>>8225
>Is the Grell thing actually canon?
I thought I heard that Yana actually confirmed it or said that he wants to be a woman but didn't specifically use the word trans. I'm not sure. There seems to be a lot more weight to it being legit compared to a character like Chihiro Fujisaki or something. The line between okama and trans is blurry sometimes, like the okama characters in Gintama, some don't call themselves women but others do, like Grell. But Grell isn't a crossdresser either, so that adds more confusion.
>>8220
Shit will eventually hit the fan because more and more kids are being given puberty blockers, surgery and hormones with zero questioning, and the ones who were just going through a phase can't reverse those permanent changes.

>>8223
AYRT and that's true yeah, I do wish we only got rid of tranny stuff but people in power can't stop at just men in dresses.

>>8221
>I retreat to JP media to avoid it all but even their isolation bubble is starting to crack.
I hate what they did to Bridget. I'll admit that I've never been a guilty gear fan cause I'm not into fighting games but I've always been drawn to cute boys so even then it's just disappointing to hear that a cute crossdressing boy was sacrificed to current year politics.

>>8231
I considered mentioning Testament but decided against it because given how JP pronouns work, it wasn't the worst thing to happen. Bridget on the other hand is still being fought about because making him a she makes his backstory way worse.

>>8222
When it comes to BL, I think it depends what segment you're into. West? Yeah thats a lost cause. Shounen? A bit
But with Grell and other fujo-ish franchises like WindBreaker, esemble stars, or paradox live, They're more of an eccentric male archetype than anything else. They look masculine, they have mannish shoulders and muscly legs, man hands, Adam's apples, or facial/leg hair. They're very much portrayed as men, just one that's incredibly eccentric.

>>8225
>>8229

Yana (And Grell) say okama. Which is a term for really feminine gay men. Gendies pretty much ignored this and typecasted Grell as a tranny. It's funny because it the series he is treated like an annoying sexpest by everyone else, while they refer to him as a man.

>>8236
>It's funny because it the series he is treated like an annoying sexpest by everyone else, while they refer to him as a man.
Yeah, I don't really get the other nona complaining about him. If you asked me, I'd say he is written to make fun of gendies, not validate them. I mean, he IS a comic relief character after all.

Seeing people paying for comms from god awful "tumblr style" artists that don't even get poses right makes me wonder if I live in some sort of parallel reality. Like how does woke brainwashing work? IS it even related to this?

Considering how many western artists are drawing like this or even paying people to draw your manga favs as fat, race-swapped cartoon characters with ugly nose, bad skin and the most disgusting (and revealing) tranny clothes you have ever seen it makes me wonder if it's still just virtue signalling or maybe a genuine liking. Maybe
they actually perceive this shit as sexy, the way that I perceive manly men as sexy even though a heterosexual man or lesbian wouldn't understand.

I cannot imagine that you pay 50-100 EUR/dollars "performatively". And I know someone that draws like too even though literally nobody in our fandom likes it. She has no reason to do it, she isn't trans, she is even a cool person otherwise. So why does she do it? Why does she deliberately draw ugly tumblr style and transwashes her favs even though she never talks about trans otherwise, doesn't headcanon them as such AFAIK and literally self-sabotages because the fandom hates it? There are no wokes to see her deed and praise her. So why??

>So why??
um… ask her???

>>8239
I haven't seen tumblr style commissions for that much, usually they seem to be in the 20-30 range, but even then I doubt people are dropping down anything over 20 bucks performatively. People like differnt things. Given how much original art is in that ugly style there must be an audience, same reason people commissions gross fetishes or furshit. Someone out there will pay handsomely to see their niche vision come to life.

>>8239
Think of it like furry comms.

who else will do it?

I do comm work myself (not art though) and most of my requests are too disgusting for most public facing groups or companies. Artists know these people will pay en masse for garbage and it's easy income for them if they 'make' it.

>>8245
How hard is it to get into this type of work if you have no previous online presence? My skills are mid but I need to make some money in this economy

>>8251
Work for free. Not too much, but create sample work like draw anons or writing anons.

Also post on reddit. If you have a post history of delivering or making it seem like a hobby, you have something to back you up. There'a a subreddit for literally everything that isn't lolisho. Then after a few posts, sell in ad spaces, link social media. I did and while my social doesn't have any followers, the fact is it's there means anyone who wants to buy can just find my work easy.

Sorry in advance if it sounds dumb but I recently noticed I actually don't mind interacting all that much with fandoms of games or stories I like anymore. From middle school to the end of university I was always online because I liked a lot of books, manga and games nobody knew or wanted to talk about irl, and I wanted to talk about these things. I was looking forward to new video game releases but didn't have enough pocket money for them so I had to do a lot of research in retro game stores or online to get second hand copies, I was into a lot of manga I borrowed in the library or bought, and into anime I watched on tv or online if they were on dailymotion but couldn't catch up to these series whenever I wanted because the episodes online were often taken down and reposted somewhere else, and for what was on TV I had to wait the next day or week for the next episodes. I did a lot of research online to know more about these franchises, and kept finding fan websites and forums so I always wanted to know more and interact with these older people who knew more than me and could afford importing books and DVDs from Japan or the US in the 2000s and early 2010s. I even found fan translations for some light novels and trying to read incomplete fan translated Haruhi Suzumiya novels in English helped me practice English outside of school before the second season started. I had no clue how people could find interviews in Japanese and translate them before posting them on livejournal.

Now that everything is way more accessible, technology is better and more affordable and I have a disposable income I don't give a fuck anymore. I went from obsessively looking for info on FMA online in middle and high school to know what's said about the manga and the first anime in interviews because I sometimes missed episodes on tv and had to buy the manga little by little very slowly to simply importing all the Japanese volumes of JJK a few months ago and reading them with a dictionary or google translate for words I haven't learned by then. I used to be obsessed with Pokemon as a kid because I grew up with gen 1, was upset that classmates pretended they were too grown for gen 3 games, and now I still like most of the games and retweeting cute pokemon fanart on my TL but don't really think about it anymore because I can buy games whenever I want, you can very easily find guides online and trade online without an accessory like a cable (which I lost when I was a kid so I couldn't fight my sisters on the GBC games anymore) and the games in Europe are finally released at the same time as in Japan so I don't even have to worry about that either. Older games in general can easily be downloaded on new consoles for cheap or you can pirate them. It kind of ruins the hype for older classics I thought were inaccessible when I first heard about them though. Don't even get me started on how legally getting into vkei and jrock was nearly impossible back then.

>>8273
tldr, sort of because the first post was too long: It's insane to think I would have been a much more casual nerd if I were born like 10 or 15 years later because everything became a lot more accessible, both legally and illegally.

something about her makes me think she'd be one of the most active posters here

>>8273
Ik this is not the point youre making but it sounds like a product of getting a bit older and losing "childhood wonder", not necessarily just accessibilty. When i was younger i was also interested in a variety of stuff, now I cant give a shit. I think most ppl lose the passion and interest with age. Cause even now in the era of accessibility, theres still huge nerds who love whatever their interests are, but I just think the majority of them is gonna be rather young. Conversely if things stayed innaccessible, who's to say your interest would stay too?

>>8276
>who's to say your interest would stay too?
I don't really know, but with how curious but lazy I am I'd say it could go both ways. You're right that childhood wonder is a real thing that influenced me back then. But it can't just be that because on the other hand I was very into some American tv shows when growing up and I could simply watch them on tv with my family late enough to not miss episodes and there were regular reruns so I didn't feel the need to look up when new seasons would be released so I could illegally download them and not miss episodes. And English is taught everywhere as soon as you start middle school or sometimes even earlier so it made things even easier. Being an ameriboo was basically way easier than being a weaboo, it required less efforts. This also applies to other countries' pop cultures, back then I could effortlessly find Tokio Hotel or Rammstein albums in stores but god forbid I tried to buy L'arc en ciel albums. Even just looking for the songs on youtube was a pain in the ass because they were almost always removed or posters made the songs go faster so they wouldn't be taken down. That shit made me so stubborn back then.

>>8275
You're right

There's a podcast I've been slowly catching up on and enjoying where on a certain episode one of the hosts mentioned he went to see Deadpool & Wolverine and the other host went on google cause she wanted to see if people made porn of them. They're clearly normies to some degree cause the conversation shifted to whether women like to watch men have sex like men enjoy lesbians and they're clearly not tuned into fandom culture and fanfic. If it turns out no one else sent a listener email about it in the episodes I'm not caught up on yet I'm pretty tempted to send one in and explain to them what a fujoshi is just for fun. Especially since the dude is also part of another podcast and in a similar situation he got a listener email explaining to him what Absolute Territory is after he made an offhand mention once that he's into the exposed thigh between a stocking and skirt.

Is this BL?

>>8289
My hot take is that "straight" men that want to fuck someone who is virtually indistinguishable from a woman but has a dick ruin BL spaces when we're forced to share them with them.

>>8290
tbf this looks like an edited pic, he probably does look more male like irl

>>8290
I agree although to be fair, even the trap shit aside, I don't think men and women have all that in common in bl. I know it's not always but still very often. Women like a bit of intrigue, emotion and interesting interpersonal dynamics. Men like those shitty CG of some roided furry dog sticking his feet into the screen with visible stink lines (or whatever MRM is serving these days). Women write a well-plotted, slow burn 300k word fanfic for some niche ship. Men don't read. We are not the same…

>>8289
and then trannies like these get offended at the word 'trap' as if their entire thing isn't just "haha tehe oopsie I was a BOY all along ur gay now ahaha!!!" the same way anime traps do

Everytime I see "ISN'T HE A MINOR?" I just immediately think internally "yeah, the guy he's fucking is a pedophile got a problem with that?"

>>8300
Personally prefer the response of "He's not real."

Most yaoi media is romantic escapism, unless the point of the work is to deal with agegap stuff I'm willing to ignore the age gap of the 16 and 20 year old. No one actually shipping the characters should give a fuck.

>>8300
That reminds me, it amuses me when porn artists have a "All characters are depicted as 18+ regardless of canon" sort of disclaimer in their bio and the character depicted is someone like Shinji ikari. I totally get it, sometimes you gotta cover your ass cause of patreon.