No.3988
>>3986Yeah, I like fear and hunger. I watched a streamer play it years ago, and it's surprising to see how popular it's become. I like the source material, but I agree with you 100% on the fandom. Believe it or not, the fandom was just as bad years ago. Almost all indie horror has TIMs out the ass… well, maybe that could be said for all indie horror games. It's better not to looked up indie game devs and their close fan discords. It's a mistake 95% time- and the fans will be so rabid. Like the games good brother, but you don't have to freak out at me because I have a sightly different opinion than you on x character.
Anyways, sperging over. I like Enki best from the first game, and I like the crow mauler, and the red man enemy. The red man terrifies me, kek. From the second game, I like Levi and Marcoh… and yes, I ship them kek.
No.3989
>>3988Surprised someone on FC likes Fear and Hunger. I'm curious about the fan discord but I bet they're all dick sucking maniacs. I want to dip a toe into things but already I feel unwelcome as a woman among them all. God I wonder what it was like years ago, I've only gotten into it recently.
Anyway. Enki is cute but Legarde is truly beautiful. He's giving me full Griffith energy. Oh but I also love Levi and Marcoh. I didn't think to ship them together but that's great honestly, I'll have to pair them up in a team next playthrough and imagine their dynamic. They're both so quiet… I really love Marina as well but the trouble with Marina is that I don't agree with everyone saying she's trans. I mean she's a walking David Reimer lmao. Uh besides that, Tanaka x Marcoh, or Pav x Levi.
No.3990
>>3989Yeah, the discord is the place I think is the biggest cesspit, unfortunately. BUT. I really love the art and sound design for the game. I played the first game before a lot of things were added (the first game, you used to be able to traverse the dungeon without torches. When they added torches, the game became a lot harder when they were added because you needed to manage them.) The first game is very punishing but enjoyable, but I like a lot of the character interactions in the second game. Like if you watch the television in the apartments with Karen in your party, she will comment that she does not remember recording the tv report that's on. So the attention to detail in the game is pretty good.
I also like Le'Garde and the Yellow King. A lot of the art reminds me of castlevaina box art. Here's some art I found on pixiv a few years ago of the yellow king.
No.3993
The game is on my wishlist. I heard there's boyrape in it?
No.3994
>>3993There's LOTS of boy rape in the first game. The second game only has like two rape scenes honestly
No.3995
yess! Nona, I was just coming here to make a Funger thread and first thing I see is Le'garde fanart. I'm so happy to see my fellow Fujos also like this game.
I love Pav x Levi so bad, Levi x Marina is also sweet but the fandom is a bit annoying with the whole "Marina is trans" thing, I love crossdressing males and it's sad to see troonery infect everything.
No.3997
>>3995My sister in Christ, welcome to the table. I love Pav x Levi! I wish there was fanart or more fanfiction. I have not found a single piece of art for this ship and it kills me.
I fucking hate the discourse about Marina. I really don't believe "trans" is the right word there.
No.3998
>>3990I didn't know that about the torches. That's pretty interesting, maybe it's better it was changed to be more difficult. Which game do you think is better? I personally think that the first of better lore wise, art wise, and writing wise. But I think the second game is cozier and more fun to play.
When I saw the toilets I got a rush of nostalgia and jumped right in to chuckle at getting stuck down there with no way out, because it reminded me of how stupid I was to blindly do that without thought in the first game. My favorite thing about the first game was how cruel it was. I was startled that you could break your fucking legs
No.3999
>>3994So what I am hearing is the first game is better. Yeah I'll probably get it. Which character is the one that gets raped? I heard that there's a specific character to choose
No.4001
>>3998I pretty much agree with your evaluation if the first and second game. The first game is a lot more brutal, and while it can be frustrating to play at times, I think it's so rewarding when you get a victory. The second game is good too, and I like the story, but I think I like the first one a little more.
No.4003
>>4000If he's in his 30s that just makes it hotter tbh? Little extra spice for the dish. Of course people are sleeping when they could be eating, story of my life.
>>3999They can all be raped but people prefer memeing on Cahara being the specific victim. I'm not all that attracted to his character design though so I usually play D'arce or Ragnvaldr.
>>4001Agreed about it being rewarding. I feel like the second game just gives you wins sometimes. With the first you had to fucking fight for it.
No.4005
>>4003Isn't D'arce a girl though, that's not boyrape
No.4006
>>4005D'arce is a girl, but for reference, I think she's the easiest player to play as for your first time, so you might consider playing as her if you haven't played the game before.
No.4009
>>4003>people are sleeping when they could be eatingso true nona.
No.4022
>>3990I checked out that discord btw. They hate fujos and babble on about bull shit. Oof
No.4045
>>4036>>4043I just read all of Alabaster in one sitting because you guys randomly posted a cute boy in the wrong thread.
No.4046
>>4043Maybe we should just have a Showa era thread?
>>4045Exactly according to Keikaku, do tell us your thoughts nona :D
Jokes aside, Rock is very dark in it - He's a lot cuter and sympathetic in Vampires and Black Jack (He's only in a few Black Jack stories, one has enough shipping material to inspire loads of fangirls).
He's also very cute in Metropolis. His 'boyish moe' is off of the charts.
No.4049
>>4046I loved it. The art was goofy but in a deeply charming way. I loved Rock and I'm happy he was so fucked up. When he started his racist spiel about the Japanese I was like, well chill. But then he goes on to reassure you he hates everybody except the Greeks and I just couldn't stop laughing. (There's something endearing about people who hate everybody equally, they're mostly just assholes but they amuse me irl and in fiction).
I liked his design, his sunglasses. When he assaulted Ami I was like, well, husbando material. I already create dark material so to see a blatantly dark character with no meddling from me was a blast. I loved Alabaster's design, and when he tried to make the moves on Ami as her father figure I was like "noooo" but also "yesss". I think his dialogue was bad for a black man from the time period, wasn't he an Olympian? I just feel like he spoke like a Disney villain. The way he died was fucking stupid but whatever. I love that Ami committed sewer slide.
The whole thing feels like it could easily be a noire or fantastic animated movie. I wouldn't trust anybody to be able to handle the adaptation though. I loved it and want to buy it in print.
No.4050
>>4046Oh I forgot to ask. Why is he in so many Tezuka stories? Like is it just a reused design? Or is it literally him hopping into new universes?
No.4051
>>4049Awww, I'm glad you like this fucked up version! He's a bit OTT in that one, but he has his charm, even so.
>>4050Tezuka didn't really 're-use' the character design so much as the whole character. His characters were a 'star system' where they would play different parts in different stories, although they all had roles they excelled at. Rock was notable in how he started out as an idealistic Boy Hero, but developed towards darker roles that got corrupted down the line.
In his 'teens', he started taking on villain roles, he is most famous for the unfinished 'Vampire' manga. He crossdresses as part of disguises because he is that pretty of a boy.
He eventually grew to 'Adulthood' - ish, where he made appearances in other mangas still, but appeared to be branching out a bit from the 'abused delinquent' type. In one of Tezuka's final mangas, Welcome to Bookilla, he was a lupe reporter doing yellow journalism, and played the grumpy fussypants to an untalented young starlet heroine. He also got beat up a lot in that version, which is hot.
No.4308
Anybody who likes Termina kinda annoyed about the Marina thing? I came to rant pointlessly.
No.4309
>>4308Which thing? Something different than normal?
No.4310
>>4309Same old same old. Discourse about if Miro had originally intended for Marina to be trans or if it was shoehorned and yada yada yada.
No.4312
I hate myself for always starting series and becoming a fan after all hype has died down. It's enraging when it's a series that was actually popular with a big active fanbase and I just missed all of this and can only watch or read it for myself for being an idiot.
Lots of time I simply don't know about because it belongs to media I am not regularly checking (like comics or games). Sometimes I postpone the start over and over again because starting shit is hard especially when you join late. Whatever I hate it and browsing all the old fandom talk and thousands of now inactive accounts is just sad.
Sometimes fandoms lats longer but I noticed that they get consecutively worse and off-topic the more time has passed since the end of the series. Most fans that join then are secondaries that got into it because of the fics and OOC headcanons so they are basically fan of a whole different series.
No.4317
So I bought and have been playing Fear and Hunger, and I feel like the game is cheaping out on all the rape stuff. I see like a 1 second flash of the monster hovering over the character and then a Game Over. My character has only been explicitly raped once. What gives? These other creatures clearly have penises, so why aren't they ramming it up the boy's asshole? Why do I get one rape scene and then just game over screens? Is the rape rare?
No.4318
>>4317The rape is not the point of the game. I do feel like some other anons have done some false advertising for this game. As far as I know there are not any on screen sex parts longer than a few seconds. Mostly it's a horror game. It's not a bad game, but it's definitely not an erogame or anything.
No.4319
>>4318 second this. and most rape scenes are by chance. I have a good 40 hours in the game and have only come across one, and even then there isnt really anything sexy about it
No.4331
Does anyone else listen to radio dramas and sitcoms and find themselves thinking of ships and which characters would appeal to people if they knew about them/had more content? Some of it is obviously played for laughs, but my goggles can't help seeing pairs and potential all over. None of them have any fandom though, there must be fans who buy the CDs and download eps or they wouldn't be funded for multiple series, but I've never seen people talking about them or making fanworks. I worry it's so small that if I did try starting it myself the writers would actually find it and be exposed to my rotten activity.
I was thinking about this because a series I was following recently ended, and in the final episode a random background character got more lines and he was seriously fruity. There was also selfcest and some other stuff you could imply. I really wanted more out of these things that are barely there for 10mins of story but these just aren't fandomable media. I don't think I can sell them to fellow fujos either, since they're usually mixed casts with some pretty stupid jokes and themes. Maybe I should try getting into American audiodramas, I think those have tumblr followings but I don't know what they're like.
No.4332
Just on the subject of small fandoms, I've been trying to shill Thunderbolt fantasy to people around me whenever a new season airs but I haven't had any luck.
No.4334
>>4332One of us makes a thread here when S4 airs and I'll talk about it with you. Donghua/danmei fans might give it a chance for being roughly in the same ballpark visually.
No.4336
>>4331When you say radio dramas, do you mean stuff from like the early 1900s? Because I dig that shit. I'd never thought about shipping anybody, but that's actually a really fascinating concept. One straight married man getting the eye from some shady out of town character tbh. Hot.
No.4337
>>4336Fuck yes, nona, you are speaking my language. Do you have any recs? Modern podcasts are too woke and overrun by gendies for me.
No.4338
>>4332I've been in the TBF fandom since S1 and it's for sure an awkward one. Depending on the place you talk about it you'll have to use completely different names and terms, which can be a nightmare to memorise so you don't confuse or offend others. Worse, it had a huge boost after the Twitch streams and during S3 I genuinely couldn't keep up with all the discussion happening and stopped making art/edits on airing days. The between seasons fandom gets quiet, and the English speakers consistently active aren't the most comfortable to chat with. I'm happy that I at least have a friend into it who picks out discussion to show me and there's no shortage of fanart from TW and JP. Looking forward to more Azi next time, but the previewed demons look awful.
>>4336I'm afraid I'm not much into Hancocks and what have you. I have a radio alarm clock and wake up to whatever drama or doc is on that day. Given the other anon's reaction I'm sure it's pointless to introduce anything. Just personal delusions.
I did remember while about the house today that there
was one with a fandom. Unfortunately I'm more a Souvenir Show fan and get very picky with sitcoms so I turned off when Cabin Pressure was airing. Gave it a shot later and it wasn't that bad but I wasn't as fond of the characters as I'd grown in other shows. Feels like a shame that the one time I could share these things I'd completely sidestepped it.
No.4346
>>4318Grrrr what
>>4319It's definitely sexy for a boy to get raped by a monster. Anyway I've been enjoying the game regardless of the sad lack of rape. My boy is currently legless and dragging himself across the floor at all times, with the sad little girl. I wish I could equip her with a weapon, she's kinda useless, but she can throw knives. The legless boy also has legs when he's sleeping in the bed and when there is combat and I wish they'd have been more consistent. For a game about a cult that worships a sex goddess there is a lack of rape, I'll say.
No.4348
>>4332Hopefully, one day they will repent for their shit taste. At least most of /a/ (the part that has seen it) seems to love it.
No.4357
does anyone else remember the amount of gay fanfic bioshock produced, or just me?? i know being a dead fandom is to be expected with a game from like, 2007, but i wish there were still people having fun with it instead of perpetually bitching about how bad infinite’s race politics were. which, i mean, they did suck, but it was a decade ago. we get it.
No.4361
>>4357Nonna, what? Who and who could you even ship? Andrew Ryan x Atlas? Lmao then again I guess I would ship that
No.4362
>>4361kek nonna that definitely existed somewhere, but most of the fic was for the mc/atlas
(which i can’t even blame anyone for shipping with the whole mind control thing and all). bioshock 2 had fic too, for subject delta/sinclair, i think? but but i was never the biggest fan of 2, so my memory is fuzzy on that.
infinite produced a handful of fics for booker/whatever the male lutece twin’s name was, but that pair was pretty vastly overshadowed by other
het incest pairs.
No.4363
>>4362huhh, now I'm thinking about Atlas and the MC. Tbh weird walkie talkie sex might be hot.
And Fontaine/Atlas getting under Ryan's skin… Their little games of cat and mouse. Man. I fucking hate when I suddenly start thinking about ships in dead fandoms. I am already carrying torches for too many, OP pic a prime example lmao.
Bioshock 2 wasn't as good as the first, but I suppose it was at least better than infinite. I don't even mean the political shit- but like, the game itself, the mechanics. The design choices. It's just so bright and gaudy.
No.4369
>>4331Welcome to Night Vale is the only one I can think of. Cecil/Carlos is canon and the fans preferred couple.
No.4405
>>4404I'm here nonna, I'll listen if you wanna talk lore or ships. I love this game and have played it a million times.
No.5240
ahhh i remember being obsessed with fear and hunger 2 for a while! wasn't Macro confirmed gay or am i misrembering?
No.5296
Do you know that feeling? In the course of years you see a certain series popping up over and over again. You look it up once and realise that its run has ended but it was super popular, enough to make even you aware of it, albeit a bit later. But you are annoyed by the hype or think it has potential but postpone it. Years later you finally engage with it and it blows your mind, but the fandom is already dead, save for a handful of OC shippers, MC troonifier and a few cringe kinners.
I am prone to this so I force myself to engage sooner these days. It happened too many times. It's cool browsing and finding so many artists that were drawing for it, but it's also depressing when they are all long since dead and gone or even deleted their art.
No.5297
>>5296Is this about Homestuck? Either way I can relate a little. I played a game a few years after it launched in the west and got insane brainworms and while I'd say the fandom is not super tiny, it's like really neutered? Most of the people who like it just talk about how much they like it rather than drawing/writing stuff, it's weird. I think it's because it seems to be male dominated–I had to dig a little to find shippers and then dig a lot to find the blessed fujos.
>even deleted their artThere is nothing more depressing than finding an artist who drew exactly the shit you got online to see only to have their art living in the form of reblogs, their blog long deleted.
No.5298
Fuuuuuck stop namedropping Homestuck every time I want to share my feelings about my Homestuck fandom but it is not really Homestuck but a fancomic arghh
I stuck loving the guy everyone hates and makes fun of, and shipping the pair of only-mentioned men I'm so infatuated by them I can't bare it, but I can't share it in Homestuck threads because I hate to bring attention to project what has little anything do with Homestuck elements instead of relying on trolls and turning it into game of thrones. The worst thing I'm making exact same AU prequel with ancestors with same route and ending up simultaneously copying the original story. I'm stuck but it feels so good.
No.5300
>>5297Funny enough no. Believe it or not I am online since the late 90s and used tumblr since 2012 but never heard of homestuck till a few years ago (and it was on 4chan). Different bubble I guess.
It's about different kinds of series, especially cartoons, games and comics since I am less likely to check them out, unlike manga/anime where I watch a lot simultaneously. Though it happened there as well. TTGL and CG were such cases and even 15 years later I am still mad. Learned my lesson though and never ignored a widely popular anime again during their own season. I might drop them but this is fine, I don't want to risk missing a potential fandom again, I was there back then and still ignored all these fun threads.
No.5301
>>5296This feeling is all i've ever known, with maybe one or two exceptions.
No.5455
>>5441do one better and write a fic where Marina cuts his hair, stops crossdressing and rails that ptsd twink and the nazi faggot with his masculine 9+ incher
No.5457
>>5455Oh they'd kill me. But lmao
No.5705
>>5441As much as I like the game and dark rpgs, the fandom is hopelessly infested. I think Levi/Marina can be a somewhat cute ship since they're both Prehevilian and both the same age, but I don't have super strong feelings about them as a pair. I made the mistake of looking in the discord and it's infested with creepy fat middle-aged moids who are obsessed with a cross-dressing 18 year old boy and will rabidly attack anyone who disagrees with them. Shouldn't they be mowing the lawn or something?
No.5706
>>5705Yeah you're right about the infestation. It's seriously depressing. It's a dark game and yet people into it are so weirdly sensitive. It makes me so upset because I love it and its prequel.
No.6146
>>5441I might take one for the team and just write a Marilevi trap fic… where Marina is consistently refered to with female pronouns up until the sex part where he reveals he is actually a male and regrets being raised as a girl and proceeds to fuck the shit out of Levi…
Also i find it hilarious that people ship the uwu transfem character with a heroin addict… truly sides of the same coin
No.6149
>>6146I look forward to it! It would be cute if it initially starts off with some fumbling and Levi thinking hes taking the lead only for Marina to turn the tables and reveal his true intentions…. bonus points if Marina's the more experienced one of the two
No.6153
>>6146>>6149perhaps start it off with Levi withdrawing so Marina "injects" him and fills him up with a different sort of needle
No.6157
>>6146Let us know if you do it. I wish I had the balls man
No.6162
>>6149>>6153Thank you for the great ideas!
>>6157Nona i encourage you to write and publish your own "TERF-y" fics, in the age of boypussy and girldick we need more writers who are not afraid to speak the truth.
I'll make sure to send a link here if I finish writing it.
No.6167
>>6162Damn he looks like jesus here, I remember seeing twitter gendies explode over this fanart lol
No.6193
>>6162Ahh maybe I'll make a burner account just to put it out there. The main idea is that it's a pre-canon story where we follow Sam who is stalking the shit out of Marina and making all of these assumptions about who Marina is and what Marina struggles with. Like, she knows Marina is male but thinks there is dysphoria, similar to her own pain. When she finally gets the balls to drug or kidnap Marina and put her in the school's basement or shed or whatever, and finally gets to talk to her idol Marina, Marina shatters every expectation (sort of like in game, but this time it revolves around his gender and how he feels about himself).
Marina isn't weak and he doesn't hurt like she does. They have no "connection." She just breaks. Samarie has to gag him and starve him and shit until he's cooperative. Noncons him a lot, penetrates him with her fingers or uses him like a human dildo. Dresses him up and shit.
Anyway, this ends unresolved with Samarie indefinitely keeping the missing student locked away and facing no punishment, carrying on going to classes and spending her nights with her "girlfriend."
No.6195
>>6194>>6162>>6146As someone who doesn't play this game I'm curious to know whether this character is canon trans or the type of character that Bridget was before being ruined to pander to troons.
No.6196
>>6195More of the first. He's not explicitly called trans in the game because it wouldn't make sense for the setting, but the creator confirmed it. His backstory is basically that his mother raised him as a girl to avoid some cult thing and he's fine with it so that makes him trans. Sort of annoys me that the creator couldn't just make a female 'main' character and had to insert some troon background honestly.
No.6197
>>6196>>6195A little from column A, a little from column B. The character is not trans because that sort of thing didn't even exist, also in order to be trans you'd have to be raised one way and then live another later in life.
Like you're not trans if you were literally raised to be a girl (even if you were male), you're just abused.