No.911
>>904i once saw ast*lfo in the shota tag on gelbooru, do ironic weebs really
No.914
>>912"But you see, they have a penis and they're the #1 fetish, so they're automatically gay! Please no gaytekeep uwu!"
And to think so-called oldfags on 4chan's /y/ and /cm/ defend this tranny infestation and gaslight everyone else into thinking they were always welcome
No.917
>>911The line between shota, femboys and twinks is blurry for male coomers who want to make everything about their dicks
I do like femboys, they can be cute ( when they don't have weird inhumane proportion ) but the ironic male weebs culture around it is fucking obnoxious. I checked a trap subreddit once and there was a gif of Sorey and Mikleo from Tales of Zestiria… Males can't be pretty or twink without being female-light I guess
>>913>why do moids obsess over this shit?Idk if that's really the case, but I heard some say it's about " dominating a failed male with your superior masculinity " which is probably why fake male weebs want to make every cute guy into a trap
No.918
>>913>Traps are portrayed as sexual slaves to incels and imaginary forever underage participants without the baggage those evil female roasties come withOr
>Traps are the perfect target of projection for grimey terminally online men who want to be an adored beautiful young sex icon again without the baggage of being a woman, see all the nasty prison gay "IRL femboys" who talk about their bussy being superior and post filtered, unrecognizable selfies to accompany it>>917>Males can't be pretty or twink without being female-light I guessThis is seriously what bothers me the most about the entire "femboy" craze, it's just a newly branded iteration of traps. I love cute, effeminate male characters and twinks a lot but men really need to ruin them by making them into some variation of either their chaser or sissyfication fetish.
No.919
>>914>And to think so-called oldfags on 4chan's /y/ and /cm/ but the idea of a feminine guy/trap isn't new at all in anime or manga. they do, also, have a significant presence in bl works (for older works that are considered somewhat influential to the medium, look to patalliro). in some cases it's like the equivalent to the "trap" female character in yuri – plus there are plenty of women making trap works in japan; it's a popular trope that isn't restricted to men/moids/coomers.
you'd have to be a newfag to think this started with astolfo and his legion of memers.
No.920
>>919picrel is from a josei btw, genderless danshi. it's a running gag that the mc's boyfriend looks like a beautiful girl/looks more a "girl" than she does.
don't know why it's so impossible to think women can too enjoy androgynous/highly feminine men without it veering into "tranny" territory (as if feminine men are automatically troons).
No.921
>>919Of course traps didn’t start with astolfo and men didn’t invent it. That’s precisely why it makes some of us sick to see men popularize and appropriate any trope from BL that would be seen as gross if only women talked about it.
No.923
>>920Androgynous boys in anime and manga are high tier and very lovable, they have always been my favorite personally. But the trap shit is disgusting and way different. I like traps sometimes but the astolfo type of traps are disgusting troon shit and i think even women who enjoy it will pick the normal girl-face dude who still acts like a dude anyday
No.924
>>923As already mentioned most traps are just eechi females in all but name, their maleness is almost never a factor to either their behaviour or physiology
No.925
>>923> the astolfo type of traps are disgusting troon shityou are projecting western morals onto japanese media. the fantasy of a highly feminine man is not at all related to moids injecting themselves with horse piss hormones.
here's another trap manga written by a woman, btw.
No.926
>>920I like feminine men and all but this "trope" has always rubbed me the wrong way, the idea that men are so much more better at being feminine then actual women
No.928
>>926that's fair, it's just a fictional trope though. i'm sure you'll be able to find a moid irl that prefers a feminine woman to a feminine man any day (nevermind that the idea of a man who's relatively indistinguishable from a woman – traps, y'know – is a fantasy with no true irl equivalent). try not to take it as a personal attack? and stop basing a woman's worth on how "feminine" she is, i guess.
No.929
>>925This is the ideal male body
No.930
>>925I wasn’t projecting anything. I just really hate moe blobs that don’t have any male characteristics other than their dick. The astolfo type. Whats the manga btw it looks cute
No.931
>>920>don't know why it's so impossible to think women can too enjoy androgynous/highly feminine men without it veering into "tranny" territoryNTA but there's a very clear distinction between the traps men nut over and the crossdresser characters women enjoy. In BL for example the crossdresser characters are loved because first of all they usually have very sweet and likable personalities, and secondly it's for once someone besides a woman conforming to rigid standards of feminine aesthetics so the detachment allows you to admire how well they're executed, if that makes any sense. In layman's terms, seeing femininity being used for something that's not meant for male gaze is refreshing and endearing. For traps, it's just a brainless taboo chasing for men who broke their dicks over jerking it to actual women and a misogynist fantasy to get rid of being "above" women similar to their "once sex bots are here your days of pussy privilege are over" cope.
No.932
I don't care about traps but I hate the current massive trapification of characters who were never traps/femboys
No.933
>>932Yeah, the amount of trap fanart of cloud these last 3-4 years in western fujos spaces has gotten so tiresome, its like crossdressing becomes their only signifying character trait
No.934
>>930Same. I hate seeing effeminate men associated with troons and moe blobs with a dick stuck on.
No.937
>>932>>933>>934It's like coom artists can only like male characters if they look like flat futa.
No.938
>>933>>932its even worse with link, the amount of trap/sissy porn of him is unescapable, I'd say since the release of BotW the trap art overshadowed pretty much all previous adult fan art of link combined
No.942
>>941god i wish this is how astolfo looks i want me my superior actual anime males
No.954
>>943Agree, Astolfo is actually a very good character and most of the coomershit comes from the mobile game spinoff, not the original source. If there was a canon handsome adult version he'd be a top tier husbando.
No.960
>>958>Not all anime boys have to be hairy manly stereotypes.We're not saying that all anime boys should look like they're from a bara manga, it's just that traps & femboys all look like flat-chested futas - all of them look the same.
No.961
>>958The examples you provided aren't the boring flat chested dick lolis we are talking about
No.962
>>958>Not all anime boys have to be hairy manlyPlease show me some anime boys that are hairy, I'll be patiently waiting
No.963
>>958Moid hands really typed this post
No.965
>>962Let the moid live in fear of real masculine men. It's the only way it'll soothe his failed heterosexuality.
>>961They kinda are though. A tranny power fantasy comic (note the "seme" arrow), that stupid Gerudo costume trapfags treat as Link's only costume, and fucking As***fo
No.966
>>958> They're a huge part of yaoi culture and saying it's not means you don't know your history.And here comes the gaslighting. I bet your "homegirls" used to be men.
No.967
>>958Oh hey it's the trapfag scrote from 4chan defending his dickgirl fetish whenever someone talks shit about them. Fuck off. Go sever your dick and castrate yourself. Weak bait.
>They're a huge part of yaoi culture and saying it's not means you don't know your history. You wish. Ironic since you didn't mention bishounens and ikemen which are the huge part of yaoi culture.
>Not all anime boys have to be hairy manly stereotypes.>Bara still haunts him to this day No.968
Trapfags confuse twinks and twinks crossdressesing with femboys and traps.
Indeed, twinks are a part of yaoi culture as the great majority of the uke stereotype was an UwU OwO feminine looking boy.
But at the end of the day, you could still mostly tell it was a boy.
Femboy/Trapfaggotry has devolved into literal draw a girl call it a boy tier bullshit where the only male features are just a chest and a penis but look indistinguishable from a girl otherwise.
No John, you aren't funny or quirky by saying you'd suck the femboy's dick in a no homo way. You're not even gay, You're just porn obsessed that you'd fuck anything with a hole.
No.969
>>958Your next line is "there are real men with naturally feminine bodies uwu owo!" and something about a Roman complex.
No.970
>>968"You don't understand! The penis makes it cute!"
Ugh, just typing that ironically hurts
No.971
>>958I guess this is a futa server now. Just like what you're trying to turn /y/ and /cm/ into.
After all, if it has a dick, it automatically belongs here.
No.972
>>971/d/ exists and should always be contained there. Why are trapfags so desperate seeking validation that their meme dickgirls are real men and shoving it down in everyone's throats? It's just like trannies irl invading biological male/gay and female/lesbian spaces saying that they are one of them and should be accepted.
No.973
>>972Hilariously, even /d/ is tired of all the trapshit clogging up their board.
No.974
>>973>>972But y'know. Karens gotta Karen. They won't stop until at least one board validates their closet tranny fetish.
But don't you dare call it tranny though. Trapfags HATE when you call a spade a spade.
No.975
>>959You're on a website that bans men and talks about cartoon boys having sex. We're ALL cringe.
No.977
>>976fujochan is bearable in this regard, lolcow is much worse.
No.980
>>967This post is retarded, crossdressing is a huge part of Japanece culture in anime and manga, it has nothing to do with trannies. Even several Bl manga feature crossdressing and Japan not taking it seriously it's why you see men in maid uniform during maid day for example
No.981
>>976It's called fujochan but it's basically /twitter vent/ more than anything
No.982
>>976I kinda understand why, everywhere is now dominated by trannies/nb and you constantly need to walk on glass less these retards cancel you
No.983
>>980There's a difference between a man crossdressing and a generic anime moeblob/waifu in girls clothes. Crossdressing isn't the problem here. It's how traps/femboys held little to no androgyny/masculinity other than flat chest and Schrodinger's dick. Draw a girl call it a boy. Sometimes drawn with wide hips, small tits, has a female voice and behaves as a uguu~ kawaii girl. Pretty androgynous men that holds an ounce of masculinity or is recognized as a man like Narancia and Kurapika are far better than Astolfo and Felix.
No.984
>>9794chan apparently sides with them now
No.987
>>983Oh I agree. But I think characters like Astolfo are basically for straight dudes so who care
No.988
>>976> Every time someone has an interest that isn't typicaly enjoyed by the majority of female anime fans you people lose your shit and say that the person is a "moid" or tranny. You lot are so obsessed with what the people you hate enjoy that your mind is closed off to the chance of women possibly enjoying things outside the norm. honestly? i feel this as someone who really loves traps/femboys. i get accused of being a moid all the time just because i like the fantasy of a cute girl (male), and it sucks. i'd like to discuss/enjoy this trope without dealing with all the moid stuff (ironic astolfo memers, sissy shit, etc.) but it's impossible i guess. i cannot bring it up without multiple retards insisting i'm actually a male, or i'm "coomer-brained" for liking it, or that i'm "supporting troons", etc. etc. etc. shit's mad annoying.
also weird that This Particular Thing is considered undeniably "coomer-tier" shit but nobody bats an eye at like, abo or assholes that self-lubriate or mpreg or other weird fujo things.
but:
> for a website of people that supposedly hates men and trannies, you guys sure talk about them a LOT and relate every possible thing back to them even when they're not bought upthis is normal. have you ever seen /r9k/, incel haven? they loathe women but 90% of the threads on that board are about women. same with /a/. they hate irl women, but they obsess over their anime girlies all the time. these are imageboards though, so it's natural for people to bitch.
No.989
>>988>honestly? i feel this as someone who really loves traps/femboys. i get accused of being a moid all the time just because i like the fantasy of a cute girl (male), and it sucks. i'd like to discuss/enjoy this trope without dealing with all the moid stuff (ironic astolfo memers, sissy shit, etc.) but it's impossible i guess. i cannot bring it up without multiple retards insisting i'm actually a male, or i'm "coomer-brained" for liking it, or that i'm "supporting troons", etc. etc. etc. shit's mad annoying. I don't particularly like traps (unless they occasional crossdressers, like Iruma), but I feel like this is mostly a western specifically NA. In JP crossdressing is a fun tool, you even see it in BL.
No.990
>>989Also
>also weird that This Particular Thing is considered undeniably "coomer-tier" shit but nobody bats an eye at like, abo or assholes that self-lubriate or mpreg or other weird fujo things.Yeah, you are not wrong. It's probably the current political climate I think and trannies latching into traps
No.994
>>988>honestly? i feel this as someone who really loves traps/femboys. i get accused of being a moid all the time just because i like the fantasy of a cute girl (male), and it sucks. i'd like to discuss/enjoy this trope without dealing with all the moid stuff (ironic astolfo memers, sissy shit, etc.) but it's impossible i guess. i cannot bring it up without multiple retards insisting i'm actually a male, or i'm "coomer-brained" for liking it, or that i'm "supporting troons", etc. etc. etc. shit's mad annoying. "I'm not a coombrained moid! Honest! I only like things that only coombrained moids latch onto!"
>also weird that This Particular Thing is considered undeniably "coomer-tier" shit but nobody bats an eye at like, abo or assholes that self-lubriate or mpreg or other weird fujo things.Whataboutism.
No.995
>>994> I only like things that only coombrained moids latch ontobut i'm living proof that women are into this thing though. plenty of women are; lots of otoko no ko works are made by women.
like, this is also what i'm talking about: my experience with traps on fem-only imageboards has been,
>i mention a trap character in a series that's been brought up>immediately dog-piled by people who think i'm a moid, people whining that the character isn't masculine enough, everyone making troon comparisons, etc. etc., blah blahit's just annoying. don't get why people can't post what they want and ignore what they hate instead of bitch over it endlessly
No.996
>>995>but i'm living proof that women are into this thing though.Are we really supposed to just take your word for it?
>plenty of women are; lots of otoko no ko works are made by women. The old "most hentai artists are women" argument. Ignoring, of course, those "women" being fronts or aliases for a moid. Don't wanna buy your coom from an Ugly Bastard, after all.
And the genuine women that do make these "otoko no ko" stories draw them like actual men instead of moeblobs with penises. Twinks =/= traps.
>it's just annoying. don't get why people can't post what they want and ignore what they hate instead of bitch over it endlesslyYou can't just break the rules and expect not to catch shit for it. People come to yaoi sites/servers/boards/etc to gawk at men, not little girls with dicks.
No.997
I hate the faggot trapfags that exist out there who are obnoxious fucks and the obvious aydens/fudans trying to blend in and failing at it but I'm just as annoyed at the persecution complex lolcow-chan who literally can't stop having men live rent free in her head.
Seriously, shut the fuck up about AHHH THE MEN ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL AHHH US SISTERS NEED TO UNITE TO FIGHT THE MOID MENACE, YAOI WILL BE THE TOOL TO WIPE MEN FROM THE EARTH.
Shut the fuck up, this is literally why this fucking site feels like cc/lc 3.0.
I hate trapshit with seething rage but I'm sure there are girls who like it, who are most DEFINITELY dykes but who gives a fuck.
No.998
>>997>i hate trapshit, but don't you think anti-trapfags are much worse?What thread do you think you're on?
No.1000
>>994>"I'm not a coombrained moid! Honest! I only like things that only coombrained moids latch onto!"Kek not that anon, but what the fuck does it even mean. You fuckers are no different than the fujo haters at the end of the day. Literally shaming someone for their 2d boys fetish.
What a shitty board
No.1002
>>996>The old "most hentai artists are women" argument. Ignoring, of course, those "women" being fronts or aliases for a moid. Don't wanna buy your coom from an Ugly Bastard, after all.You sound genuinely insane. No one gives a shit about from what the 2d coom comes from.
I guess this anon is what happens when you go deep into kiwifarm and these shitty sites. You start to obsessed so much over men your entire existence is warped around what you "perceive" for men.
>t. People come to yaoi sites/servers/boards/etc to gawk at men, not little girls with dicks.Do you also bark at ABO, self lubricating assholes, ukes who act like women?
No.1003
>>1000>Literally shaming someone for their 2d boys fetish.The "boys" in question look nothing like boys. Shotas are more masculine than traps/femboys.
>>1002>You sound genuinely insane.I'm not the one defending a disgusting moid fetish everywhere people talk shit about it
>Do you also bark at ABO, self lubricating assholes, ukes who act like women?There's that whataboutism again
No.1006
>>996>You can't just break the rules and expect not to catch shit for it. not breaking any rules on my end. if anything you complainerfags are the ones breaking rules; they quite specifically outline that this site is a safe space to "unleash one's fujo energy/autism". so kiss my ass
No.1007
>>996>And the genuine women that do make these "otoko no ko" stories draw them like actual men instead of moeblobs with penisesyou don't even know what you're talking about, kek. look up "himegoto" and fuck off to lolcow
No.1008
>>1003>There's that whataboutism againOf course you can't answer that, it points out your retarded mindset kek Stupid lolcow reject, I'd prefer a moid to retarded lolcow women like you who are so obsessed with what men like it define their entire world view.
Ironically, you act exactly like those "moids" you hate so much, who shame fujoshi because "their BL is nothing like real life!
No.1012
>>1006>>1007>>1008Imagine being this pressed because people don't want to look at flat futa in male-focus places
No.1013
>come to /ffs/
>shocked at people complaining
kek
No.1014
>>1003>There's that whataboutism againhmm let's use shota then, since you brought that up. plenty of men love shota. plenty of men also enjoy things like rape and incest; are these to be banned and whined over too? are they automatically "moid-adjacent" just because some men are interested in them?
No.1016
>>1014You're just grasping at straws at this point
No.1018
>>1016>no argument okay.
here's another female artist that likes traps btw. name's koyashaka, all she really draws are cute otome-style images of her ocs x "moeblobs with dicks"
No.1019
>>1018>here! i'll prove women like trapshit!>said "trapshit" still has masculine features and no birthing hipsA swing and a miss
No.1022
>>1018Nice otome style pictures your "female" artist is drawing. I believe that most of her audience women is of course. And thats totaly not the definition of "moeblobs with dicks".
Good job at proving them wrong nonna!
No.1024
>>1022i never said it wasn't, i was just quoting her words. also i asked the person themselves, and they said they were female. genuinely don't know why it's so impossible to think in a world full of billions people there are women into things you aren't.
also gonna stop replying now since it's obvious you lot are so Entrenched in this idea that anyone who enjoys things you don't is a man. have fun seething, i guess.
No.1025
>>1012I don't like crossdressing, I'm just contesting your retarded lolcow zoomer brain
No.1030
>>1028Tf you talking about. Men don't care about bishies but anything feminine looking like traps/femboys. Read before you post trapfag.
No.1035
>>1034why did you enter an infight thread? i just saw a mod ban someone for infighting in the likes thread. maybe hide this one if you don't like seeing people argue
No.1037
>>1033Go back to /d/. Also I do go to lolcow.
No.1038
>>1035No need to be so hostile Nona!
No.1039
>>1038arguing over dumb shit is fun though
No.1041
>>1037>Go back to /d/To do what?
> Also I do go to lolcow.Of course, I could tell because your brain is utterly damaged
No.1043
>>1041>To do what?Gush over your moe dickgirls in the trap threads over there where it's much more welcoming since you can't handle the hate here.
>Of course, I could tell because your brain is utterly damagedSpeak for yourself. At least I'm not utterly brainwashed into like a moidshit fetish like you.
No.1044
>>1043>Gush over your moe dickgirls in the trap threads over there where it's much more welcoming since you can't handle the hate here.I am not much into trap.
>Speak for yourself. At least I'm not utterly brainwashed into like a moidshit fetish like you.Of course you are. lolcow behaviors are top moids. So it's judging women's tastes for anything non conforming. Besides, if we calling every we dislike "Moids behaviors", I suppose anyone could do the same with anything you like.
No.1045
trapfujogirlies are oppressed more than fujogirlies tbvfhwyf we have no solace and we get no peace
No.1046
There is truly nothing more woman moment than putting another woman down merely because she likes something you don't.
Truly getting the twitter experience without being on twitter
No.1051
>>1045Why are you typing like a tranny?
No.1052
>>1046Pretty much. For all this obsession over moids it really reminds me how much women can be petty with each others. Only thing we are missing here is some moron with new pronouns.
No.1058
>>904the funny thing is that all those characters see themselves as men and are aware they are men. yet trannoids worship them as idols.
No.1059
>>1058>all those characters see themselves as men Uh huh yeah and the artists claim the same thing even though they just look like women with flat chests and are even voiced by them. "I swear it's not gay ecksdee!"
No.1060
>>1058>all those characters see themselves as menWhich is why I'm confused why ladies here are calling them trannies. Just because trannies like a character doesn't make the character a tranny, you're literally letting them win at that point. At least the people calling traps "trans" are just headcannons and some even know that they're just headcannons.
No.1061
>>1018Based.
Feminine boy x girl ships are actually really cute in my opinion.
As long as its not troon garbage and its clear he's not an obvious anime girl, I love these pairings!
No.1063
>>1062You're deliberately missing the point. That's just shitty fanart, not canon.
No.1065
>>1063>it doesn't count because it's fanart!!Nice shifting of the goalposts. Now answer the question.
No.1066
>>1062>by that logic, every futa is a dude.This argument is so disingenuous it hurts. Futas still have curves and breasts.
And yes, that is still a man because he has a penis, no breasts, and male organs. Sorry but I just don't fall into your tranny ideology that because someone looks female that they are female. Take it back to twitter, you will never be a real woman.
No.1069
>>1068Lmao why don't you want to look at a female?
No.1070
>>1067It's fantasy. Stop being retarded already.
No.1072
>>1071You say this, while we literally have a "dykes only" thread where actual anime girls are being posted?
No.1073
>>1072And yet you and OP are complaining about actual anime males instead of the actual dykes being posted on this board. The absolute state of you retards, you're more okay with bitches posting yuri garbage which will ACTUALLY "attract moids" that you seem to worry about so much but no get angry at the gay feminine anime men instead. I don't understand this line of idiot thinking.
No.1075
>>1074"Boo-hoo wah fucking wah, other women don't like what I like!!! Why can't other women just be good little females that behave and enjoy only manly muscle yaoi with guys that have short hair who only kiss after 10 volumes and perform missionary sex once in the whole series? Why can't other women just enjoy boring fluff with guys that have nasty pubic hair everywhere??? If you don't like what >>I<< like then y-y-you're a tranny or male!!! All women are supposed to like the same thing!!!!! Women aren't supposed to like feminine men nooooooOOOO"
Cry, seethe, cope, sob. I shall drink your tears as I read yet another morittokoke doujin and enjoy things I like.
No.1076
>>1075>disliking pubesOkay you just made it personal!
No.1077
>>1075i love the trap jack doujins
No.1078
>>1076lol they're just not my thing personally but I'm not gonna knock anyone who actually likes it, I just wanted to dunk on the anti-trap schizo. I can kinda see the appeal of a little happy trail!
>>1077I especially love the tiny cute outfits that are drawn on him! Traps drawn in tiny outfits are peak cuteness!
No.1088
>>1087im op im sorry i didnt think the thread would cause this much shitstorm 🥺 just posted it without thinkin too hard
No.1091
>>1090>boys make the best girlsand you say traps have nothing to do with trannies? the whole "boys make the best girls" logic is literally how trannies groom insecure teenage guys into trannydom on discord
No.1094
>>1073Implying Astolfo and other traps don't attract moids as well
No.1096
>>1075>>1068I sure hope he sees this, nona
No.1097
>>1024Ask them how long they were female for
>>1074Trap abuse is too funny
>>1073The thing is more yuri artists than trapshit artists are women. The latter was made to pander to moids and trannies while the former just happens to be liked by moids.
No.1098
>>1090>Also no one's allowed to hate them!you can hate them, but preferably shut the fuck up about it. i hate shota. i am not on the shota board bitching at everyone who enjoys it. if someone brings up trap content in another thread (or even makes a general dedicated to it), shut up. you are not important. you do not run this site. hide the posts, hide the thread, and move on.
No.1099
>>1098like the entire issue is that people who hate traps HAVE to make this hatred known, they can't just post what they want to post and keep moving, they HAVE to complain about traps and make tranny comparisons and fling shit. like, idk, go back to lolcow if you need to be a whiny little baby over people enjoying things you don't.
No.1100
>>1099It's not like the tranny comparisons are unfounded, trannies often make traps their entire personality
No.1102
While I don't care for traps, I do like the few times they drop the act and actually act like a guy.
Really, that's what's annoying to me. Not the look, but the annoying and forced retarded acting. Other than the obvious answer of "It gets me off", what's even the appeal?
No.1104
>>1103It's a hate thread towards traps and how MEN have tried to take shotas and ikemens for themselves with trap/femboy garbage but none of it was about how you shouldn't like them. If a girl likes them it's fine, whatever, power to her even if I wouldn't understand why but men are the reason why fanart like this
>>1062 exists.
No.1105
>>1098>. i hate shota. i am not on the shota board bitching at everyone who enjoys it.kekk this is a good point. being a pedophile is apparently better than liking feminine men.
No.1108
>>1104Calling anyone a trap is pretty fucking cringe sis. You really wanna use a "quirky" term used by scrotes and troons
>If a girl likes them it's fine, whatever, power to her even if I wouldn't understand whyShe's either a lesbian in denial or desperate for male attention
>>1105At least shotas look masculine
No.1112
>>1105>being a pedophile is apparently better than liking feminine men.yes.
boyish beauty is welcome, not bootleg woman.
No.1113
>>1099>like the entire issue is that people who hate traps HAVE to make this hatred knownAs opposed to the cool girl brigade who make liking flat futa their personality. Literally no different from pick-mes who defend oversexualized female characters.
No.1114
>>1104Men are also the same reason these moeblobs exist in the first place
No.1116
>>1066>it's not a tranny because it has a penis and a flat chestHow many times will you move the goalpost before you get tired? You're ignoring the wasp waist and wide birthing hips, neither of which real men have.
No.1123
>>904I just assumed femboys would be right up my alley, as I do enjoy subverting gender roles sometimes. I, in general, just hate others who come off less as people and more as overcompensating gender stereotypes made manifest. But to my shock, femboys are the very things I dislike in obnoxiously girly people wrapped in a male package. It doesn't help that dudebros with sexual insecurities simp for those wannabe dickgirls and claim it's not gay. It's like the same fucking jokes each time they come up: "Traps are gay!", "no homo but," "traps aren't gay," "it takes a man to become best girl."
I can't even convey that I simply prefer plain effeminate and cute men. They all assume I must be on board with characters like Asfolto, whom I've grown to despise more than life itself because they're so fucking insufferable. They don't get that I find that shit gross.
I apologize for the sperging, but I've been in a lot of nerd spaces filled mostly with horny incels who hate women so much it rolls back to being gay somehow. That, and speaking as an artist, I generally just want to draw cute boys and cater to that niche.
No.1128
>>1116>real menopinion discarded
No.1140
>>1128I humbly accept your concession
No.1143
>>1123>I apologize for the sperging,No need to apologize for that, nonna, that's the purpose of the site after all.
I feel really similarly to you, except I actually used to like traps since I like gap moe and subverted expectations in general. However, as the years have gone on and traps have become increasingly mainstream, they've also become increasingly taken over by the absolute weirdest combination of cishet incels and trans pickmes that I have ever seen. They've essentially lost everything I used to like about them. I, too, simply prefer effeminate twinks these days.
>characters like AstolfoAstolfo makes me genuinely sad because in canon, he's exactly the kind of trap I like. He's cute and has feminine looks, but doesn't just behave like a moeblob uwu waifu. Sadly, fancontent DOES treat him that way and nowadays the very sight of him makes me mildly upset.
I'm so damn sad that content I used to enjoy has been overtaken by actual fucking moids.
No.1144
astolfo got malegazed
No.1145
>>1144I…you're not wrong. Thanks, I hate it
No.1147
At least shotafags can accept that people don't like their fetishes and don't spam their shit everywhere. In fact i don't like shota either but they don't push it down my throat, i just avoid /sh/ and thats it. Trapfags pop a vein if soneone even dared to dislike them, as is always personal for them (You know you can just hide this thread right?)but you all are autistic trannies at heart, policing people's tastes. At the very least the uwu catgirl trannies are honest and upfront with the fact that trapshit IS their personality. The next time a trapfag annoys me i'm going to answer them with guro and dehumanization, if you are bothering me with your autistic fetish i'm going to reply with mine.
No.1149
>>1147They'll call you a schizo and barafag if you dare call a spade a spade and "not yaoi". Because no one's allowed to dislike these annoying boobless dickgirls, not even women.
No.1151
>>1147What the fuck, anon. Don't drag gurofags into your retarded fight. We're on thin ice as it is.
No.1153
>>1151 anon, because i don't push my specific fetishes in regular bl spaces i maintain that is common courtesy to not do it. Idk where you see gurofags on thin ice, maybe in Twitter anti spaces full of minors but in normal adult fandom spaces people don't care as long as you tag your shit and don't spam it where it doesnt belong, but trans are seen as a funny meme so spaming them is all what trapfags do.
No.1162
>>1147hmm well the issue is that anti trapfags sperg out whenever a trap is posted, or act excessively hostile. you can't point to me a case of trap-likers spamming traps anywhere on this site (or lc), but i can show you people on this site pissing themselves and acting extremely rude about traps. same with lolcow.
No.1163
>>1090>people taking an obviously sarcastic "no one's allowed to hate them!!!" comment 100% seriously>people taking a meme about "boys make the best girls" seriously even though it's a well-known running joke started by an anituberI know you gals are autistic but c'mon….
No.1168
>>1162>Same with lolcow. Well, obviously a site that is openly gc, who favors yume content over bl and deeply dislikes even the slightest mention of trannyism, insinuated or not aren't going to be cool with traps. Lc banned vtuber threads because they thought it attracted trans posters, the hysteria about it is real, why you would want to post traps there?. Some fujos have real problems to undestrand where/in what way they're welcome. But that is another topic.
Also i've seen many times traps being inserted in conversations about twinks/bishies/femenine men/even shota, and of course people aren't going to like it. Btw, i'm not against traps here as long as they have their own thread and don't leave it. In fact i don't mind traps at all as long as i don't see them everywhere/maleposters are banned.
No.1169
>>1168>In fact i don't mind traps at all as long as i don't see them everywhere/maleposters are banned.Wait for the "I'm a girl and I LOVE trapshit" brigade to chew you out lol.
No.1173
>>1163Not that anon but anitubers are garbage and repeating jokes over and over again isn't funny, its cringey retard shit.
Every time someone comes in with another fuckng "uhh… fbi Chris Hansen lol" I die a little more on the inside.
No.1174
>>1168Traps being associated with trannies is just a recent thing, no old internet channers would look at characters like Astolfo and Jun and think they are trans. Heck, these characters tend to make trannies mad because they are basically just boys playing on a fetish, hence why trannies try to appropriate them.
>why you would want to post traps there?I don't even like traps but women enjoying them is unbelievable thing, crossdressing is literally a normie fetish for JP fujos.
No.1179
>>1174>crossdressing is literally a normie fetish for JP fujos.Ok but there's still a difference between crossdressing and draw a girl slap a dick on it
No.1180
>>912>>Moids who are into girls and futanari/dickgirls.I honestly respect moids who are just into non-waifish anime women, like the sort in horny old OVAs, and curvy futanari, a lot more than the modern femboy-loving hentai-addicted loli-loving ironic weeb coomer.
A male /d/ oldfag is usually a lot more tolerable than a redditor ironic weeb.
No.1184
The anti-trap dykes in this thread all have the same opinion of "you can be a woman even if you have a penis and no breasts" and honeslty I've never seen anyone more pro-trans than that.
No.1186
>>1185How big is the trans flag hanging up in your room?
No.1188
>>1186How many striped socks do you own?
No.1190
>>960It's weird, but my fetish is actually manly stereotype anime guys who ARE futas. I like /fr/ shit where guys have both a pussy and dick.
No.1192
>>1190Be careful, you'll get called a "moid" by tryhard femcels for not liking vanilla average anime males with short black hair only.
No.1195
>>1190Gross.
>>1180Is that why the pro-trap hugbox was moved to /ex/ where no one can see it?
No.1196
>>1147It's because fujos can enjoy shota but traps are way more popular with men than with fujos, in fact I've met only one woman in my entire life who liked traps and was actually a fujoshi and not just a coomer who indiscriminately enjoyed every porn genre there is. And by traps I mean traps as in the character type discussed in this thread, not just the BL-oriented crossdressing trope. Men can't deal with the fact that someone doesn't want to witness their dick waving in their faces and want free reign to push their fetishes anywhere they please. The female trapfags on the other hand just see traps as women to self insert into and you know how autistic and entitled pickmes and hetfags in general get.
>>1074They've been here since day one because traps, toddlercon and oneeshota was allowed and they constantly whine about evil wahmen boolying them. The worst mistake that could've been made, moids flock to those fetishes like bees to honey. And of course they come here to peek at the girlclub since autistic moids can't live without sticking their greasy nose in uninvited. Just in this thread alone they've thrown multiple temper tantrums just because we don't like looking at flat chested dickgirls created for terminally coombrained men who hate women so much they need to create a substitute for them.
No.1197
>>1196>Men men men I can't stop thinking about men I see men where there are no men you're a man I'm a man everything is made for men everyone else thinks about men too I can't get men out of my headIs this why people are calling this website the female version of r9k; the opposite gender is nowhere to be found yet you can't get the thought off them out of your head?
No.1198
>>1192Sorry real men are too "vanilla" and not "kawaii" enough for you. But I do hope he sees this and finally picks you one day :)
>>1197>t. pickme upset her porn addiction isn't validated No.1199
>>1196I've seen the trap pollution (even a pro-trap hugbox which was thankfully moved to /ex/ so no one else is forced to see it), but toddlercon and oneeshota I haven't seen.
No.1200
>>1199There's a straight shota thread in /sh/ and a ton of shota passing for malegaze toddlercon posted on that board. I feel like I'm being put on an FBI watchlist if I even open that board.
No.1201
>>1197No scrote, your incel centrals call girlchans "le female r9ks" because you lack the basic social skills of sympathizing and the ability to read the room while thinking women are just genderbent men who hate women for no other reason than deep rooted entitlement to their time and attention, while in actuality these women are sick of men constantly invading their spaces, mansplaining women's own experiences to them and not leaving them alone. Because you haven't had to deal with this ever in your life and combined with the inability to shut up and listen, you think it's all made up and just some mean femcels getting all worked up over nothing while doing exactly the shit they're complaining about men doing.
No.1202
>>1201inb4 "b-but female trapfags exist, why are you ignoring them?? why do you keep calling them men instead of validating their malegazey futa fetish??"
No.1203
>>1200Can we make a rule banning blatant malegaze shit like oneeshota and traps/femboys or shifting them to boards like /ex/?
No.1204
>>1203Seriously. Straight shota and traps have no place in a supposedly fujo-themed site. They have never been a part of anything related to BL or slash fiction and they're mainly consumed by men, and not just men, but the worst kind of terminally online cumbrained chanbot men. The straight shota thread is filled with graphic toddlercon and mommydom scroteshit you see them posting on subsections of lolicon sites, not the kind of Ciel Phantomhive-esque young anime men fujos like. Even the "t-this is totally a yume thing!" sounds like a tagged on afterthought especially when it's just plain old hetships between two characters.
No.1205
>>1204There are unironically more yumejos/husbandofags on this site than there are men. Take the men boogeyman out of your head for a second and actually realize barely any fujos post.
The main admin/mod for the site is a shotacon and a huge yumejo, those are boards that essentially exist only for them and their friends
No.1206
>>1203no. if you see something you dislike, ignore it. sperging about traps being "m-maleshit!!" outside of this thread will cop a two-day ban for in-fighting. if someone starts talking about traps on /bl/ or something, ignore it. you don't own the site, stop being a retard
No.1207
>>1205>Admin is a yumejo and a shotaconNo wonder this site seems to be surprisingly anti-fujoshi for being called fujochan and drives away the actual fujoposters immediately.
No.1208
>>1206Would you take your own advice and stop coming in here just to argue with them already? I'm tired of being forced to third wheel for this stupid argument whenever it blows up and takes over the front page, why are people on both sides so obsessed with each other??? Just stay in your own containment threads holy shit
No.1209
>>1204i'm not into /ss/ either but
>not the kind of Ciel Phantomhive-esque young anime men fujos likegod you sound so boring
No.1210
>>1208why did you enter the containment thread, on the board dedicated to arguing and complaining about meta bullshit, if you hate it so much? hide the thread?
No.1215
>>1213>Basically pedo gaysIf there's one thing that characterizes trapfags and femboyfags is that they're all straight.
No.1216
>>1215Yeah, i forget to mention this, pedestary was accepted socially for straight men as long as they are not the receiveng end, basically feminine dick justification in ancient time
No.1217
>>1213>They are quickly thrown away when they grow old n manlier.Jfc that must do a number on your psyche
No.1218
I came here to say that I hate the word bussy, and I blame traps for people using it. Like there was fujo Logh thread on /a/ a couple days ago, OP used that word, I cringed.
Please, go back to using boy pussy, I prefer it.
Bussy sound so fucking gross to me. That's all.
No.1219
>>1218>bussyDoesn't it come from mainstream gay culture?
No.1220
>>1219I wouldn't know, but if that's true, then now I have a problem with gay people.
No.1222
>>1221This is just a repackaged version of how they turned Zoisite and Fish Eye into girls in the English dub of Sailor Moon because they wanted to erase the homosexuality. Just made woke this time around.
No.1223
>>1221Something something japan bad because they're inherently transphobic something something we (westerners) are better than those dumb japs that are certainly making a trans story but their transphobia stops them or whatever logic.
No.1224
Traps are just stupid. There's no boyish essence to them. Shit is just flat-chested futanari.
>>1062This is not a male body. Look at the curves. Anyone who can delude themselves into thinking it looks like a man of any sort has completely gone mad.
This is an abomination made for bicurious men who've watched so much porn that their minds have blurred the line between the men and women's bodies. The "trap" or "futanari" fixation is a natural progression from the attraction to titles centering around "big dicks" and their interactions with women's bodies. The dick springs from the woman, she is the giver and receiver of pleasure at all times. It's a complete fantasy for the pornographically overfed male, but an eyesore for everyone else.
No.1225
>>1205Some women like malegaze bullshit, doesn't make it okay
No.1226
Starting to think you guys only hate traps because you feel insecure
No.1227
>>1226>Y-YOU DON'T LIKE MY FETISH BECAUSE YOU FEEL INSECURE OVER HAG MALES THINKING THEY ARE CUTE BY DRESSING IN DRAG AS YOUR GENDER HAHA BUSSY UWU say you're a moid without saying you're a moid
No.1228
>>1226>you're just jealous that boys make the best girls uwu!For how long have you been a woman? And how many striped socks and Bad Dragon dildos do you have?
>>1221It's a boring story with no chemistry between the main "couple". The trannies can have this one.
Oh but it's different because the author does jousou-seme aka wish fulfillment for failed men and wannabe "mommy doms"/lesbians in denial
>>1207Trapshit and other malegaze bullshit forcing its way into yaoi and yume stuff are not and never will be yaoi or yume
No.1229
>>1228>It's a boring story with no chemistry between the main "couple". The trannies can have this one.No they can't fuckk off
No.1230
>>1229They can have this spineless draw a girl and call it a boy
No.1231
>>1229Trapshit can fuck off. It does not and will never belong in yaoi/BL spaces.
No.1233
>>1226I love seeing scrotes during their first time at a female centric imageboard and thinking they can pull their retarded negging tactics like they could with the scarce pickmes hungry for male validation at their incel discords. Anyway fuck off back to lolichan to jerk off with the rest of the chasers
No.1234
>>1233>scarce pickmes hungry for male validationYou mean the same nlogs going "I'm a girl and I like trapshit/malegaze shit, it was always yaoi/it's actually very empowering to be a titninja" in this thread and several others? If only someone would please pick them already so they can shut the fuck up and let us look at true bishies in peace!
No.1235
>>1234I'll give them about a year here until they start realizing that the "evil schizo man hater spergs" were actually right all along and they finally deprogram themselves from years of /b/tard brainrot and male bootlicking. Might take a few scrote meltdowns and gore spams like everywhere else but it'll happen eventually.
No.1236
You trapschizos have been spamming this thread for almost a month now (it's quite literally the only active thread in the whole site aside from the ayyden complaints/vtuber shit) with this "haha take that moids!!" rethoric and I've yet to see a single trap spam and male invasion like you supposedly keep seeing
No.1237
>>1236kek it really is schizoid behavior.
>>1234 nobody has ever said anything like this
No.1239
>>1238I can see the nlog cope now.
"See! See! A woman made it just like a woman made Himegoto! This proves without a doubt that trapshit is fujo culture!!"
Literally the same energy as "you can't call this game/anime/comic sexist because a woman had a hand in this somehow!"
No.1240
>>1239you're having literal hypotheticals live rent free in your mind
No.1241
>>1240>>1237Take note, class. This is what gaslighting looks like.
No.1242
>>1239Yeah they would say that especially since she made yaoi too. I just find it crazy that another girl would make something this male pandering. I guess I can't complain though since it was published in a shounen magazine and the intended audience is men.
Pic related is the effects of pandering to males.
No.1244
>>1242>I just find it crazy that another girl would make something this male pandering.That's the sad thing about this "most hentai artists are women" trend. Some don't even draw yaoi anymore (they even go as far as deleting it all) and will only draw moeblobs or flat moeblobs with surprise dicks.
No.1245
>>1242This might explain why actual bl has gotten a bit more manlier, though. All the feminine twink/self insert/shota artists fell into the trap hole.
Good riddance, honestly.
No.1247
>>1244Are you surprised women enjoy straight porn?
No.1248
>>1247The people in this thread are /snow/ tier spergs that can't comprehend every woman not enjoying the same thing. What did you expect?
No.1249
>>1246>>1247As if that makes pedoshit/malegaze hetshit ok. Like at all.
>>1248The lack of self-awareness in this post
No.1250
>>1248Go suck tranny cock.
(infighting) No.1253
>>1249>As if that makes pedoshit/malegaze hetshit ok. Like at all.I think you are missing the point, are you shocked women enjoy sex between a man and a woman?
No.1256
>>1253NTA but what sort of a redditoid gotcha is this supposed to be? Anons were talking about former yaoi artists transitioning to drawing hentai and you're here like "well are you surprised women like hetero sex???" when that has nothing to do with what's being discussed. If they started drawing food items would you be like "are you surprised women like food"?
No.1257
>>1256The whole discussion seem to be about overanalyzing what women like
It's the kind of discussion I expect on 4chan
No.1259
>>1257Lmao what? If anything on 4chan they would just say "it's not that deep women are just dumb whores with no complexity to their psychology" and "ooga booga they just want to please men because of muh biological need to reproduce", not actually objectively analyze the motivation behind what women like and why.
No.1272
>>12594chan, especially /a/ loves to over analyze fuojs behaviors. This topic wouldn't be out of place there.
No.1306
>>1305is this a reverse trap ?
No.1307
>>1306its a normal trap that stuffs his shirt
No.1308
>>1307See this is the issue I have with 2d traps, If you draw a character that 99% of people assume is female then no matter how much you claim it can't be considered a male, drawing a girl and calling it a guy is utterly pointless
No.1309
>>1308but he's clearly a guy without the wig, skirt and stuffed bra.
No.1310
>>1309You're blind nona, there's no way you could tell it's a guy at first glance.
No.1312
>>1310NTA but agreed, i legitimately was confused at first as to why
>>1305 was posted cuz i thought it was a tomboy or somethin
No.1314
>>1308Sorry for blog but to illustrate how much I hate this, I remember when a cumbrained scrote tried to hit on me by appealing to my fujo side and went on about his love of traps thinking I would be interested in his dickgirl fetish because "they're men after all, right? You like that stuff right?". Leave the "wig" and "stuffed bra" out and we'll talk you retard.
No.1316
>>1310yeah but thats the point of a trap
If you look closer you see ways he uses hide his form, cut sleeves because of his wide sholders, long hair that covers the side of his jaw, long sleeves that hide his big hands, giant (fake) tits to hide his chest, a skirt that makes his hips look wider. Plus look at the size of his feet
A trap, at first glance, should pass for a woman, thats the entire point
No.1317
>>1316> draw a girl. add a dick> i-it's clearly a boy, you see he's using an angle to look feminineplease go to hell you fucking troll
Don't use that stupid logic trying to explain why a drawing looks girly when it's a "boy"
When is just this shit
>>912 No.1318
>>1312I figured it was one of those gender bender pics. Which, off topic, are such wastes of good boys.
No.1319
>>1316>A trap, at first glance, should pass for a woman, thats the entire pointCool, except us non-coombrains don't want to look at women in our yaoi, even if they have a schrodinger's cock. We've been over this many times.
No.1320
>>1317>>1319>uuuuh, actually this tall character with wide shoulders, narrow hips and huge hands and feet is clearly a feminine girl because um…. long hair.The only reason you get upset over stuff like this is that you have a very primitive understanding of the differences between men and women
No.1322
>>1321The character I posted is far more representative of the body of the average BL character than what you posted.
Go to /bl/ and compare the bodies of the boys posted there to the body you posted
No.1333
>>1324Yes we're aware these are lines on a page. But nothing about these lines look remotely male. Even shota looks more masculine than a majority of the pics in this thread
>>1332>sure there's zero male indicators to these characters other than their dicks, but they call themselves men and so does the author so that automatically makes them men by default!https://files.catbox.moe/meox8c.jpghttps://mega.nz/folder/b89z0YaZ#VQvTijHD2MGvE0zlE8LAWQ No.1334
>>1332Cope and seethe. Trapfags, just like any other male-aligned fetishists, are so fragile when they realize there's one place online where their "totally ackshually male can't you see the hands" dickgirl waifus they chimp out for literally months repeating the same retarded moidbrained gotchas like "y-you femoids are just jealous of how hot they are!!", "t-they're totally the same thing as twinks!" and "s-so you think trannies are female too huh??" like manmade cartoons ever equated to real life. You can literally fuck off to any board on 4chan to circlejerk about traps but no, you need submission everywhere.
No.1340
>>1334>y-you femoids are just jealous of how hot they are!god i swear i wouldn't detest trapfags as much if they didn't infuse that misogynistic garbage into their speech
No.1342
>>1334>>1333Why are you so pro-trans? Why do you call men "women"? Why do you call people with penises "female"? Do you have trans friends and that's why you're a trans ally?
(infighting ) No.1361
>>1340They're honestly no different than the trannies they insist they're not
No.1405
>>1027I'll hazard a guess you've heard the "a woman made it, so that makes it okay" line one too many times, especially by women who should know better
No.1434
I can like feminine guys a lot if they are written well and if they are placed into series that is otherwise filled with masculine men, making them an exception and mysterious. I hate it when everybody in a series is a twink though and there is a high chance I won't even give it a chance.
I cannot relate to them either or rarely. I don't have a very feminine personality so I cannot relate to cheerful, social, emotional or happy characters which is what most feminine guys are written as.
>>976Annoys me too. Honestly most people that like the same series I like are men and most women I met in real life had a problem with me they and they have too many health issues and are picky with food and everything so if anything it's women I rather keep a distance from. Most of the annoying men I see are American insecure rightoids on the net that lose their shit if a series dares to pander women for once.
Ironically it's the same people that get angry if a woman gets angry about the sexualization of a female character. But the moment there is some harmless gay pandering or a guy acting sexual it's the end of civilization.
No.1471
>Traps aren't trans, they don't want to be wom–
No.1531
The only trap that I really ever liked was Bridget, but that's because he's a cute shota and I like cute things, especially cute boys. The idea of a boy who looks like a girl trying to prove how manly he is was just so adorable to me back then.
But yeah, traps are made to appeal to closet gay men who aren't into BL or bara. It was never mixed with BL or fujoshis in the past, but now it is. Anime culture online is really terrible isn't it?
No.1546
>>1545I think people defend it because, and hear me out on this one, they actually like it. For me at least, traps and other forms of feminine men are a nice way to enjoy feminine looking characters without having to actually look at a girl. I like looking at girly and cute things, but I don't like girls. I like boys and want to see only boys. Two things I like, so I'm going to put them together. Boom, we have a girly boy! He is still a boy, just very pretty! If they have a chest as flat as a board and some sort of visible bulge and call themselves a guy, then they're male to me. I don't get why people overcomplicate it by saying they're trans, especially by people that supposedly hate trannies so why would they force the trans label on a character that isn't trans? Maybe they've been indoctrinated so much by the tranny pill that they think "oh they're in feminine clothing so they MUST be a girl no matter what" or some other line of thinking that I just don't understand.
As for that picture, I can still tell that's a male because of the head shape, nose length, and eyes. It's subtle things but I've consumed plenty of trap and crossdressing media to notice small details. Most other weebs can tell, I think it's just normies that have trouble telling the difference. To each their own, people can hate traps if they want, but I don't understand this closed-minded line of thinking that women simply just cannot under any circumstances enjoy traps, it only has to be men. Is it that strange for women to like pretty things?
No.1687
>>1546>As for that picture, I can still tell that's a male because of the head shape, nose length, and eyes.Then you must need glasses
>>1565Cringe
No.1735
>>1687You're cringe you sperg.
No.1736
>>1686That was one of the endings, and context matters, so I wouldn't say that necessarily counts, but in the end I think the producer did finally cave-in to western demand, unfortunately. But he's still a normal crossdressing boy in all of our hearts.
No.1739
>>1735"yassifying" twinks into submissive and breedable moeblobs with dicks is cringe
>>1736>But he's still a normal crossdressing boy in all of our hearts.Headcanons are all you'll ever have