No.3452
A thread for fanfic discussion. Recommend stories, talk about tropes, and post your own work!
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>>3 No.3455
>>3453I'm so invested in my anime and videogame bubble that it takes me off guard when I see how much content is produced for live action tv/movie stuff. Genuinely feels like they live on a different planet.
No.3456
>>3455Same, there are series I've never even heard off before realizing they had thousands of works on Ao3. Our Flag Means Death, 9-1-1, Young Royals? Maybe it's just because I don't have any streaming service or even a TV antenna anymore, but it's insane how big things like that hide right under my nose.
I love how consistently high Bungou Stray Dogs are on these charts, never seen it myself, but it's nice to see a non-shonen anime so high up.
No.3464
>Search pairing
>giant 100k word one shot collection
>crtl+f one of the characters names
>0 results
Why do people do this? I'm in a big Boku no Hero mood because of all the posting here recently and its happened a few times.
No.3465
>>3464I really wish there was a way to punish people for improper tagging, especially in big fandoms like BnHA. Or at least a native option for "never ever show me this fic again" (I use Ao3 savior but I've had it hiccup on me enough that I want something concrete). If there's one thing ff.net got right it was only allowing 2 characters to be tagged.
No.3471
>>3465I really just wish they would create a native option to pernamently blacklist. Its so weird to me there isn't a toggable one, especially since it take a while to perfect a search in big fabdoms.
And yes it's stupid people can just tag pairings that don't even exist in the work, or even worse 300 word crackfics with 20 ships tag and no actual relation to the fandom. Its garbage and is just clutter.
No.3472
>>3471I got tired of constantly typing my blacklist in the search results so I just have a general M/M bookmark with the necessary keywords blocked which is a decent workaround.
It seems like AO3 only put effort in having a basic blacklist and tagging system and then completely gave up afterwards. There's so many features they could add to make the QoL better but they don't. I'm still annoyed they haven't implemented a main and sidepairing category. Even if there's otp: true you can still lose out on good fics that tag other pairings. The sites been up for years, what the fuck they're doing with the donations is beyond me.
No.3473
>>3472In their defense I imagine there is some degree of jenga code at play with some of the obvious QoLs like that. I'm more annoyed that tagging culture has gotten very weak. I've gotten so butthurt about it that I keep scrolling when the tag list for non-porn is more than 2 lines.
>donationshttps://archiveofourown.org/admin_posts/28423About half of it just goes to keeping the site up.
No.3474
>>3473AO3 still has the best tag system overall even with the pitfalls. I like that I can search, say, an episode title in the "Search within results" and someone probably tagged it even if it isn't a "canon tag." AO3 is miles ahead of FF.Net for actually finding what I'm looking for. It is a shame a minority of users are using it to write paragraphs or purposely mistagging in large fandoms.
No.3685
I recently got into writing fanfic but I'm ESL and not very good. I'd really like to join a discord and/or find a beta. Does anyone have any suggestions?
No.3686
>>3685ff.net has a list of beta readers that you can sort by fandom:
https://www.fanfiction.net/betareaders/There are also beta readers floating around tumblr, but I am not experienced with sourcing one from there.
You could also drop the fandom here and see if anybody bites.
No.3687
>>3455Same. I never once came across any of that stuff besides casually seeing Good Omen fanart on twitter and once or so some harry potter fanart while I was scrolling through the [all] category here. I have never shipped live action characters. Think I associate them too much with the actors and reality as a whole, I am 2D only lol
>>3464I think they tag "per-emtively" when they plan on adding those characters one day. And yeah I fucking hate it. It's especially annoying when you are into a rarepair and everytime you get your hopes up for seeing a single new entry per month it's one of these fucking things, usually even some cross-over with shitty series I don't like so I wouldn't read this mess anyway.
No.3691
>>3687>I have never shipped live action characters. Think I associate them too much with the actors and reality as a whole, I am 2D only lolYeah, exactly. Same reason why I'm never going to care about that live action Legend of Zelda movie. As soon as it's live action I don't see the character anymore, I see some actor in cosplay.
No.3692
>>3691>>3687Interesting point on the actors, I'm basically faceblind, so much so that if there are too many characters in similar outfits I struggle to tell them apart and follow the plot as a result. But also I almost never recognize the actor playing the character and when I do it's usually from the voice like Jimmy Stewart or Steve Buscemi.
It's interesting though because I think there are people who ship because they're following an actor around, much like people who ship anime characters based on senyuu. It edges a bit too much into RPS, but oh well.
Zelda movie is concerning, Link shouldn't talk! Place your bets now is Link's hair going to be an ugly bleach-white Legolas color or are we getting an unnaturally blonde wig? I do think Ganondorf of the main three has the potential to adapt ok.
Speaking of Zelda and fanfiction though have you seen how shitty the results are recently? I just want to find fics actually pertaining to the games and I have to wade though this BS.
No.3693
>>3687I get this. I am 2D only with the exception of Star Trek.
>>3692I don't understand why they added this when the series tags function as the same thing. Too much deference to timeline bullshit.
No.3694
>>3693It's not even a replacement for a game search since it's all weird psuedo-selfcest garbage and if I open a fic and Link is referred to as "Time" I'm closing that shit right away.
In fact it actively gets in the way of searching works, because if you search "OoT" you're going to get a ton of AU filth of "Time/Wild" whatever from people who probably haven't even played non-BOTW games. What a mess
No.3695
>>3692>I'm basically faceblind, so much so that if there are too many characters in similar outfits I struggle to tell them apart and follow the plot as a resultFucking same. I mainly remember the hair style and remember watching a movie with three blonde women with almost the exact same hairstyle and I was almost completely lost. The plot was good, had a good bunch of characters and was complex, but because of that you could rarely tell who was who from context. It was such a fucking work to combine and deduce shit that I shouldn't spend brain capacity on that it became one of the reasons for why I don't watch live action anymore lol
No.3696
>>3695Yeah exactly I always feel bad because there are characters I'm interested in, but then at some point especially during action scenes where there isn't a lot of dialog I'll just lose the characters and I feel stupid.
Subtitles are actually a big help since they'll sometimes name who's speaking. This also makes it easier to look up fics later (hint hint) since you know exactly who to look for without pulling up IMDB to try to find the names.
Movies tend to not have a big fandom unless their attatched to a big name like Nolan or Tarantino. Most live action shipping communities seem to be more into the TV scene for some reason.
No.3698
>>3695personally this is why I prefer multiple races in my kinos. If there's an Asian, a black, and a white, I can tell who's who.
No.3699
>>3696>Movies tend to not have a big fandom unless their attatched to a big name like Nolan or Tarantino. Most live action shipping communities seem to be more into the TV scene for some reason.Because of available content basically. Movies are one and done, sequels if you're lucky but that still only amounts to a few hours worth of content. TV shows go on for years and years and rack up dozens of hours of runtime for fans to dig through.
No.3702
>>3701Personally don't feel comfortable sharing just because it's a sub 10 ship tag so I'd reveal my name for sure. Not Pokemon despite the pic.
It's just for an older franchise and the characters haven't appeared in any media from the franchise post 2000s so it's not surprising, I'm just disappointed I'm not creative enough to flood the tag like some authors can to keep fics coming for a year plus. At the same time that can be a curse if the author has a weird grasp on the characters.
Don't know if any other writers feel this way, but I'm "one and done" when writing ships. I have a very clear grasp of what I want to do and if I come back to a series it's mostly for another side-couple that catches my eye or a major development in later seasons.
No.3703
>Daddy Kink
How did this ever catch on? It hardly every feels in character and when it does it's an incest ship. Did a particular ship popularize it and it spread like a plague or did something else caise it?
No.3704
>>3703We probably lurk in different fandoms but it finally seems on its way out the door where I am. I can't say exactly what caused it but there was a period (~2020) where using daddy ironically (and then NOT ironically) leaked into fanfiction. I think it was just an easy trope for engagement and exploded extra big because of covid. There was some discussion in the previous fanfic thread about the cross-pollination between hetero-leaning porn tropes and m/m fanfics starting around
>>2101 if you'd like to read more.
No.3705
>>3703fujos are girls/women, many of which who happen to have this kink I guess. Call me daddy, praise me, whip me shit. Personally I dislike spankings and praise is only acceptable in small doses.
Eh, what can ya do.
No.3723
I hope this isn't too controversial to ask but can some one explain to me like I'm a child what "Stop A03 Racism" was hoping to accomplish and what specific practices they're fighting? I saw a fic with its title changed to end ao3 racism now, and I remember this being a thing two or three years ago. But all I can find is people talking about A03 ignored the protesters not what they were specifically protesting.
Not looking for who's right or wrong, just examples of what the problem that prompted it was
No.3724
>>3723I think it's over A03 allowing raceplay and fics with racism on their website and users leaving racist comments on fics. I found a blog post about it here:
https://echoekhi.com/2023/05/31/endotwracism-controversy/I'm black and I find raceplay disgusting, but A03's tagging system is so good I don't even care, as long as they keep it far far away from me kek. Comments can always be turned off and general harassment isn't allowed anyway. Also how would people reading your fic even know you were black in the first place? In the post hiring a diversity consultant was mentioned which honestly seems like a nightmare of a job considering hundreds of fics are published each day. Honestly what is more concerning with A03 is RPF of actual children being kept up. They did suggest a permanent tag block feature which I agree would be helpful to filter the tranny fics, and for A03 to encourage proper tagging which is fair
No.3725
>>3724"Needlessly Controversial" is right, the first I ever heard of it was some slapfight on tumblr years ago. I really hope it leads to being able to hide a fic forever, IP bans for abusive comments, and an escalation tree for improperly tagged fics.
>>3723Additional reading with rabbit hole links at the bottom:
https://fanlore.org/wiki/End_OTW_Racism No.3726
>>3724>>3725Thanks both of you!
Personally I've never come across racism of the non-fantastical variety, but I've never actually gone looking for it. I agree a permanent tag blacklist feature would probably be the best solution, I also think that making "bigotry" or "racism" a archive warning would be a good idea too.
The blogpost mentions technical issue with the idea of implementing a blacklist, but not with muting specific works. I wonder what the difference is?
No.3816
>>3815As long as the originals never overtake "fandom" as the reason for going to the site I'm fine with it, but you're right about how 99% of it is just fetish/wank material (with tens of thousands of hits to boot, lol).
As for reporting:
open fic
scroll all the way down past the comment box
click link "Policy Questions & Abuse Reports"