No.3452[View All]
A thread for fanfic discussion. Recommend stories, talk about tropes, and post your own work!
Old Thread:
>>3 No.6753
>>6751AI is trained from real people. There is literally no amount somebody can improve to not sound like AI because AI learns from human work as does everybody else.
It has nothing to do with improvement so much as changing what it gets trained from entirely. Like artists getting accused of AI. You cannot tell when somebody has an AI fic because if the AI and the writer both took quirks of Anne Rice, it's an Anne Rice style specific quirk they display.
>inb4 someobody goalpost moves with "well she wasn't good anyway" No.6754
>>6753I've heard this argument countless times before, people CAN tell. If you are unable to do the same it's because you have shit pattern recognition.
>There is literally no amount somebody can improve to not sound like AIIf your writing sounds like the most stereotypical nonsensical AI writing ever then yes, you can change it and get better.
I don't understand what's your point here, people should proudly produce AI-tier shit prose in the current fanfiction landscape? If you can write well, you can write well. If AI ever learns to write well enough to create long coherent stories with good prose then literally no one would be able to tell, as opposed to the current situation where it's quite easy to spot hence why people complain about it.
No.6755
>>6750Structural integrity and deprecate, I'm really striking out here. It's amazing no one's accused me of using AI yet.
No.6756
>>6753AI is trained from real people but it also overuses certain sentence structures way too often and in ways that humans wouldn't. Humans aren't using 'X did Y, in the way that Z' or 'it's not X, it's Y' 10 times per chapter. It tends to repeat the same point in different wording or make scenes that don't connect to each other.
No.6758
>>6753You can tell when sombody is an AI "artist" it's obvious if you actually look at the art and pay attention to details like buttons and hair strands. In the same way if you actually pay attention to the word flow and sentance structure it becomes obvious if someone is an AI "writer" if people don't notice they either don't care, aren't paying attention, or are young and haven't read enough to be able to spot inauthentic prose.
>>6747If I didn't give a fuck about my writing and had nothing else to do I could probably do a 2k fic a day especially if it's basic shit like first kiss, love confessions, ect. Works that aren't complicated and don't require fact checking the source material. If they are posting longfics daily that's a major red flag. Though it's also important to keep in mind some people finish a story in advance and drop it in large chunks over a few days.
No.6759
>>6758>You can tell when sombody is an AI "artist" that was not the point I was making. I was comparing how real writing gets accused just as blindly.
That said. I have never encountered AI written fanfic ever myself because I simply filter to specifics constantly outside of what is popular. AI fanfiction that I have seen is bad in a way that is irrelevant to talent or ability to structure unique prose. It just sounds braindead. Which is different from being bad. It's structurally sound, just empty
No.6813
>>6811Every time I search, but depending on the fandom it sometimes takes me longer to sift through them.
No.6814
>>6813What fandoms are you usually in anon? I find myself struggling even in big ones, but it could be that I have very specific tropes/events I'm looking for.
No.6815
>>6811After all my filters are applied it's rare to hit something so OOC I close the tab. What happens most often is that I will read gen and there is an untagged Wrong Ship Implication and I'm out of there like a bat out of hell.
No.6820
>>68111 in 10 fanfics I encounter are in character. If I'm not filtering for tranny/cuntboy shit it's more like 1 in 30.
No.6821
>>6814Most recently have been in a Clamp mood, I'm primarily interested in anime.
No.6825
>>6811It really is fandom-dependent. From my experience, the smaller the fandom and the original work targeting a more mature audience, the lower the proportion of out of chara fics.
No.6859
Do you think it's rude to comment under AO3 fics with 'I wish your fic was longer, my hunger is still not satiated'?
No.6862
>>6859Not rude exactly but I think it puts people on the spot. I don't like getting them because often the work is never going to be continued and it makes it hard to thank the commenter.
No.6863
>>6859It isn't but expect that it can and will be screenshotted for the reddit as putting too much pressure on them and how writing is SO HARD and how they're doing it FOR FREE
No.6864
>>6863Nta, but the ao3 subreddit is genuinely so embarrassing. I'm a person who cares deeply about characterization and it's crazy to see people hail their OOC slop as some masterpiece. I've read some of the links the people there link and I would be embarrassed to associate myself with it. Also the eternal victim complex… you are in fandom where usually the average age skews younger so they're kinda retarded why are you taking everything so personally? Let the kids be.
No.6865
>>6864Women who claim to be 40's+ with the emotional sensitivity of 12 year old ipad babies.
Their treatment of bookmarks is the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. Genuinely telling somebody they're using the site wrong like a kid saying you're playing their favorite game wrong. If I saw a comment I thought was rude, I wouldn't run to reddit to ask for validation. But saying you wish there was more of something is genuine harassment, according to their made up rules of how to use the site.
No.6866
>>6859Not at all. If anything, it's encouraging—there's someone out there who will read and likely comment if you write anything else for that series/pairing.
No.6870
>>6859Change "my hunger is still not satiated" to "so I could keep on reading it all night" or something. Or throw them a "waiter waiter, more of this please" meme.
No.6873
>>6862>>6863>>6866>>6870Thanks! Maybe I'll word it differently then…
No.6874
>>6859To be on the safe side you could potentially also include something specific you liked about it, so it's not just "more please"
No.6875
>>6874That's what I'd do. "There is never enough of X! I especially like how you x" or something like that.
No.6876
Not sure where to place this but I feel like I need to flame a fic I read. I won't mention the author, fandom or pairing but I just need to let it out because I just don't get NTRfaggotry especially when the author clearly likes the ship. I think this is my fault because I was being too horny and decided to try an ABO fic (yeah yeah, throw tomatoes), but at least I ragequit the moment I whiffed the NTR shit.
>ABO fic featuring super popular ship
>babby involved
>Bottom gets loss.jpg over the Top saying an offhand remark to some other dude (having no idea the bottom is present) that he doesn't like kids
>Bottom, who got knocked up, doesn't communicate shit and just aborts after crying for 3 days and runs away leaving the top super confused
>5 years later Bottom returns with a daughter and sees Top again where the fic currently takes place
>According to the writer's TL, the bottom wound up with some other guy very soon after his miscarriage and got pregnant and the new guy was abuse/manipulative. The child is 5 years old btw, and yes she truly is the child of the other guy. Don't ask me how the math works
>Immediately stop reading when NTR was confirmed, but look ahead at some chapters just to see where the fuck this trash was going
>Typical baby daddy drama where the ex is trying to manipulate the child into having her want the parents to return
I haven't read a fic that angered me this hard in years kek sorry it makes me laugh by how shook the NTR thing got me. It wasn't even a mind break moment, just some bitch ass rebound bullshit with a baby attached. I'm so mad hahaha
No.6877
>>6876This is really just someone trying to get their second fave ship views while relying on the first ship. NTR sucks but it doubly does when it's untagged and everyone is OOC. If I can copy/paste the plot into a telenovela except het then I don't want to read it. RIP hope you find a better fic for your ship.
No.6878
>>6877>This is really just someone trying to get their second fave ship views while relying on the first ship.Right, it's like putting the most popular ship as a background pairing so it shows up in more tags, even though they've got like two sentences of mention.
No.6879
>>6876Does it still count as NTR if they broke up?
No.6880
>>6877Was there even a second ship? Sounds like the ex was an unnamed random or mob OC. That sort of thing is pretty common in fic.
No.6881
>>6879The top didn't break up with the bottom, so I considered it as such. The retarded lack of communication trope didn't help. Overall it was an infuriating read and seeing comments praise it was baffling. You really are okay with this OOC shit with your fave pairing? The bottom in canon is never afraid to confront the top character in the media they're from and now he's a crying slut who spontaneously aborts over a dumb comment. Give me a break
>>6877>>6880It wasn't a second ship. Just an OC with a name that didn't match the setting and became prominent because of the baby daddy drama the author was milking.
No.6887
>>6876I tried reading a manwha with a plot like this once and needless to say I didn't get very far and don't even remember its name, because I just can't stand the way authors treat runaway single fathers with a kid. They always give them an abusive relationship and make them helpless in ways that are the opposite of endearing, and then the kid acts like they have developmental issues so they don't have to make them a real character. Just once can the bottom have (possibly unwarranted) confidence and teach his daughter to kick the top in the balls if he tries anything. It'd be far more fun.
No.6888
>>6881>The top didn't break up with the bottom, so I considered it as such.I… what?
No.6892
>>6889What is the lore on the "Fanart spammer" mentioned in the second image?
No.6895
>>6889Drary is this popular?
No.6897
>>6889I'm genuinely surprised Soukoku is that high… it's still going strong too seeing the 2025-2026 summer ranking. I must be on another side of the internet because I knew BSD was popular but not that popular for it to have the 2nd most written fics among anime ones. Discounting MDZS, I expected either a JJK or HQ ship to be after any BNHA one.
No.6898
>>6895I don't know why you're suprised, it's a pillar of western M/M. Good ship too. Teen Wolf still going strong is the shocking one at the top for me.
No.6899
>>6889>YoriMichi on the listGot excited for a hot second before remembering that 99% of that tag is in Chinese. I'll get around to google translating it eventually I guess…
No.6900
>>6898NTA but I always assumed anything Harry potter would've taken a popularity hit ever since Rowling's controversy because I'd gotten the impression most fic writers are some flavour of woke.
No.6903
>>6894>spamming your ships tag out of jealousy for rival ship and annoying fellow shippers in the processthis mindset is hilarious. tag spamming is usually something done to NOTPs
No.6905
>>6902You also get a lot of woke fans of HP to this day that always feel the need to go "fuck JK Rowling" at every opportunity so people know that even though they enjoy Harry Potter that they're a Good Person with Good Opinions, unlike her.
No.6907
>>6905And a lot of them haven't actually read the books or watched the movies, and are just fans of the fandom. I feel like the All The Young Dudes crowd does some mental justifications that they don't actually care for Rowling's works, just the fandom her works inspired.
No.6908
>>6907>fans of the fandomI really, really hate that this is such a huge thing now because of social media, same with people pretending they've watched/played something just because it's popular and they want to fit in.
No.6909
>>6908We need to start gatekeeping again.
No.6917
Is there a crisis in fanfic? So many fanfics revolve around rote, unimaginative concepts ('coffee shop AU' being the poster child). Why would any author want to copy-paste the same formulas, not even trying to play with them (ex. the coffee shop burns down at the end of chapter 1 - now the characters are jobless and PLOT ENSUES). Are so many writers really struggling for ideas? I find it hard to believe.