No.180
they annoy me. might as well just read some shoujo instead. i know some fujos like the fem ukes, i just think of brainrotted tifs when i see them.
No.183
>>179i really love them. feminine ukes, josou semes, even the femboy/crossdresser tropes popular with moids - i love them all. i guess it's mostly that i like cute things and i think girls are very cute, but josou seme has a special place in my heart because i love the contrast between a super cute exterior and a domineering exterior. pity there's not a lot of content out there.
i get picky with fan interpretations, though. i usually don't like it when fans make characters super feminine when they're not like that in the original work (pic unrelated), and i generally don't like a lot of western 'fic on these topics because it usually comes off as 'gender-affirming' pandering. or, god forbid, they go the full way and just make the feminine characters TIFs instead. if i wanted feminine girls, i'd just read shoujo instead.
No.200
>>183do you have any femuke recs nona
No.312
>>310best type of galolio is where galo tames him. it's no fun if the uke isn't beaten down a little imo
No.314
>>310Oh my god, thank you. When I saw this thread I immediately thought of galolio and you nailed my thoughts exactly. On that note, I also hate the people who act like if one person in your ship is smaller and/or more feminine looking but their personality doesn't fit the ~uwu soft submissive uke~ archetype you HAVE to make them the top or else you're obviously just an icky straight fujo projecting onto the uke. This shit is why I'm glad that I watched the movie long after the western fandom died down and I only follow JP artists.
(Though I'll admit that I love
>>312 too. Power bottoms getting dicked down so hard that they become bottom-bottoms is my fetish.)
No.315
>>314> I also hate the people who act like if one person in your ship is smaller and/or more feminine looking but their personality doesn't fit the ~uwu soft submissive uke~ archetype you HAVE to make them the top or else you're obviously just an icky straight fujo projecting onto the ukegod i also hate this. it's so subtly misogynistic too, like, why do they gotta assume a woman wants to a submissive moeblob/that's a fantasy for her to "project" onto a male character? sometimes i just want to see a guy get dommed relentlessly and treated like a housewife wtf
No.397
As somebody who wasn't sure if he counted because like
>>310 said he's only feminine in appearance, the uke Lio appreciation itt warms my burning soul. Bless you, nonnas <3
>>312Hey anon if you're still lurking, have you seen this yet? I think you might appreciate it, password is 'FIRE'.
https://poipiku.com/4274994/5837012.html>>396You should! It's a very fun watch. It's up on HBO Max if you have that.
No.405
>>397Not that nonna but I want to thank you for that link and password, it changed my life for the best
No.407
>>397i am that nona, and i also want to thank you for this link and password. kyaaa'd hard
No.413
>>412Narancia is hardly a trap, it's fanartists that depict him that way
No.414
>>413Yeah he's just a bishonen who looks younger than the other characters in part5.
No.416
>>413>>412I hate the stupid Narancia trap meme tbh
No.738
>>179I don't like them but I just avoid them. I went through a short pretentious phase when I was younger where I would loudly shit on them constantly and act superior over it but as I got older I stopped giving a fuck. In fact at this point I think it's a good thing that they exist as an outlet for people that want to see men in a very vulnerable or submissive or whatever view for once and I can't bring myself to shit on variety.
No.942
>>939>>938>>937I have nothing against feminine ukes but this is literally the "draw a girl and call it a guy" meme
No.947
>>939I haven't really heard about that and I didn't notice it from the subs. I downloaded the Orphan fansubs from Nyaa.si
Because of your post I checked out the fansubber's blog and that person apparently does call Hibari a trans girl, but from what I remember in the actual subs everybody still just calls Hibari a he unless they're keeping up the charade for the school.
No.949
>>947thanks. i'll add it to the backlog then.
No.950
>>944okay, but why, If its a woman in all but name your basically hetro content at that point
No.951
>>942>>950I'm not that anon but for me the appeal of traps is that even if they look girly they're still dudes and have a dick so if another guy has a crush on him I find it entertaining when the guy has a confused boner and gay panic going on that he needs to work through.
No.952
>>937I don't want to start a TERF vs Troon war but Hibari-kun really feels more like a het romcom manga like Urusei Yatsura, except the running gag is "that girl has a penis, shock value!"
No.953
>>950>If its a woman in all but namenot all women are feminine, and no woman has a dick, but okay.
to answer your question though: i'm not entirely sure, but think it's because i like visual contrast/size difference/femininity in general. i actually used to hate them a few years ago (i really have no idea why i'm obsessed with them now).
>>952that's what i said in my post.
No.956
>>951that seems like that would get boring real fast
>>952my point exactly, there is nothing about Hibari-kun related to BL at all
No.957
>>942Yeah I love effeminate ukes more than life itself but this is just crossdressing. I like it way better when they're still boys wearing androgynous clothing or something. Hibari-kun is just a straight romance in my books.
>>951That's exactly why I don't like traps. The "haha the chick has a dick!!" joke gets old so fast and the whole setting based on the gay panic trope is annoying and juvenile. I've always considered traps to be a cumbrained scrote thing anyway just like tranny porn in general.
No.958
i'm not too fond of trap jokes either; i'd rather the uke just be feminine without it being (too) large of a deal. viewer gender confusion is good, them constantly being called "pretty" or whatever is even better, but past that – whatever.
i think i said it earlier in this thread, but lio's peak trap/femboy/whatever the word is these days because he undeniably looks like a girl, but he also has an actual personality that isn't just "generic girl".
>>957i wasn't going to reply, but i'm curious: what about a relationship between two men isn't "bl"? if it's two men, even if one is "girly"…how is that straight? do you think femininity = woman or something?
No.959
>>958>how is that straight?The characters aren't real for one thing, they're cartoons created by a male as a fantasy about having a forbidden taboo completely female lover who happens to have a dick because vanilla pussy wasn't exiting enough. If it was a real life man with a tranny, it would be obviously read as a gay relationship because there's no way a man could pass as a convincing woman due to his real life socialization and physiology. I guess it's a "bi" relationship if you stretch the rules but when I see a "male" anime character that's completely indistinguishable from a female anime character with their behavior and looks it doesn't read as a gay relationship to me. Especially when with something like Hibari-kun you never see his dick or even the bare chest, he's girlmoding around the clock.
Also I don't think Lio looks like a girl, he has a very princely outfit and hairstyle with angular facial features. Effeminate, sure, but not at all comparable to traps.
No.960
>>959yeah lio is effeminate but he is more of a bishie
No.961
>>959i disagree with all of this (especially lio, as almost everyone on /a/ thought he was prime 'draw a girl and call it a boy material') but alright.
No.962
>>961Moids on /a/ think literally anyone but a beefed up roidster or a self-insert John Smith looks "like a girl".
No.1229
>>179I guess I'm basic but I tend to dislike them. They're always so weepy, timid, slutty, or clingy, even if they were a girl.
That being said, my only issue is with personality. If they act like a man, then I'm good with it, doubly so if they power bottom or top (Sabikui Bisco, for instance, I like Panda x Bisco rather than the alt.) As far as submissiveness goes, it has more impact for me if its a bigger guy, isn't it more humiliating that way?
That being said, I feel the same with female characters, I like them to act a bit manly.
I do like it when a trap untraps humself, at least for a moment. Since
No.1233
>>1223That's a chick with a dick.
No.1234
>>951But literally, all they got is a dick and then is female all the way down.
a¡And most times is not even good dick, is always either a cartoonishly big one to be contrarian about it and go "big dick means more man hyuk hyuk" or has a baby looking one because traps are just socially conscious shotashit for fucking moids.
No.1235
>>738Oh but I bet the moment the trannies claim them you turn back to be 19 and a jackass again…
No.1236
locking the thread, as it's looking too similar to the current anti-trap sperg thread on /ffs/. go there for all further complaints.
>>>/ffs/904