No.1061
>>1060op pic is turning me into a maniac
No.1062
this made the deranged fujo in me perk up.
>>1061the artist draws so much good shit.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96846898 No.1069
>>1062nayrt but man I love that artist and that ship. wish I had more people to discuss it with but the fandom is too retarded.
No.1070
>>1069they think the blond is a tranny, right? i wonder if the artist feels the same way (i hope not)
No.1071
>>1070Yep. The artist has tweeted multiple times about feeling the same way, but otherwise they're quiet and I'm in love with their art so it doesn't bother me excessively.
No.1187
>>1186Same but with Su. Every character by Takahiro Sakurai is a whore to me. I really wanted him to be the Sumeru archon when the rumors first had started but that was a long time ago.
Tangentially related, but it's kinda funny how you find very good designs in pseudo-omninapdering games but if the company decides to strictly make joseimuke, the great majority of designs suck (I personally don't like Tears of Themis precisely because of that, they're just generic otome guys to me). But in Genshin and Honkai they manage to make their guys really fucking pretty. Too bad the great majority are way too straight and there aren't degen fujos into yuripandering games willing to make them take cock.
No.1189
was not expecting to see honkai stuff here but
same but with Welt
>>1186i really do wish there was a bit more m/m art from the fandom bc I would do anything to see Void Archives top and defile Welt Yang
No.1192
i wish there was more (well drawn) incest manga/manwha/whatever out there. feels like all the good stuff isn't translated, and i can't read jpn
No.1193
>>1192A fellow incest sister, based. I'd like to recommend you this VN on Steam:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1430030/THE_MONSTER_OF_MEMORYDESTINY/ It can get pretty depressing depending on ending, but it's a good read.
Also if you're fine with a mobage and a pretty shitty western fanbase,
Enstars has some good and popular incest ships.
I agree that we're definitely lacking in translated incest content, it's pretty sad.
No.1194
>>1193i've played this one already, it was pretty great. do wish there had been actual nsfw, but whatever.
No.1196
>>1195who's the young guy?
No.1201
>>1194>no nsfwWhat's the fucking point then
No.1202
>>1197he's kind of ugly to me but that could just be the art
No.1203
I'm loving picrel so much. Love the video game theme, and the main pair's dynamic is so refreshing and sweet. Link:
https://mangabuddy.com/reincarnated-into-demon-king-evelogias-worldAnyway, I just found out it has an anime and I can't wait to watch it lol
No.1205
>>1203I'm glad you're liking it but I just could not get into it. I think I just really began to dislike Gozu at some point and just dropped it entirely. I may just need to give it an honest try again at some point but eh. I did like Aggressive Sex With An Angelic Smile by the same author, though!
No.1218
>>1215definitely not. i love twst has tons of BL works on pixiv. i especially love jamil/kalim, ruggie/leona, ace/deuce and azul/leech brothers
No.1221
>>1215You're not the only one anon. Twst has so much shipping potential it's insane. I especially love all the housewarden/vice housewarden ships those are the best.
Also you've probably already read this one but this jamil/kalim doujin is veeeeery nice
https://myreadingmanga.info/os%e6%b9%96-%e5%b7%b4-heat-disney-twisted-wonderland-dj-eng/ No.1224
>>1215i'm definitely a tertiary level fan (i got to the sports festival with the lion gang and my interest conked out) but the boys are incredibly cute.
also the /twist/ gen on vg was fun to lurk sometimes.
No.1271
>>1226I got two SSRs for Lion Man while doing F2P, I'm this close to going yume for him
But fighting as a form of courtship with Malleus is also good. I want a seat at that royal wedding.
No.1279
One of my friends is introducing me to Kingdom Hearts and I feel like I missed a treasure trove of years and years of content and now I feel bad because most of it is definitely gone as fansites kept dying and artists kept deleting.
I want to see Axel be fucked silly so badly
No.1287
>>1286Kengan Ashura/Omega
No.1288
>>1287I'm still annoyed at the anime cutting all the scenes of the fujo assistant daydreaming about the participants.
No.1289
>>1288Haven't the adaptation, but from what I've gathered they cuted alot of the downtime. Which sucks, it's what gave the manga a lot of it's charm.
No.1614
>>1613The UKE should cum first as it is an ancient fujo rule written by various fanfiction and slash authors and the readon behind it is that when the UKE cums his hole tightens and thus the SEME cums immediately afterwards.
No.1615
>>1614this is amazing!!!!
No.1616
>>1613They should cum at the same time while holding hands to make it as romantic as possible.
No.1621
>>1614>ancient fujo ruleGod it really is lmao
>>1613Despite the ancient ways I don't really have a pref. I think it's cute when it's depicted that the seme is losing his damn mind inside the uke and nuts first, but I also really love service tops. I like the whole range I guess.
No.1622
>>1613an anon in another thread mentioned that in some jp circles fujos refer to the seme as a fuck rod or something along those lines which is honestly how i prefer the seme. so i prefer when the uke cums first bc most of the time im not really invested in the seme and only see him as something that exists to fuck the uke
>>1616awww this is really sweet and i do like this too. I have noticed that in written fiction
and by that i mean fanfictions i prefer the sex to be really romantic and driven by emotions with focus on both parties but in manga with original characters i prefer the uke to be the center of attention
No.1623
>>1622>>1622>an anon in another thread mentioned that in some jp circles fujos refer to the seme as a fuck rod or something along those lines which is honestly how i prefer the seme. so i prefer when the uke cums first bc most of the time im not really invested in the seme and only see him as something that exists to fuck the ukeWhat the fuck
No.1624
>>1622I like semes but agreed, essentially they're just there to fuck the uke. It's also why in danmeis I hate the "scum gong" tropes. Only the uke should get to be a shitty person (imo). Kek
No.1627
>>1623Maybe it's this thing and they're all snake fujoshi
Personally I'm usually equally interested in both uke and seme
No.1630
>>1628same, i dont think my iq is high enough for this
No.1651
>>1628>>1630If you're still confused;
>SnakeHas a specific character she loves as the Uke. Not picky on ships with him as long as he's getting dicked. She can't hang out with Frogs.
>FrogHas a fixed shipping pair. Doesn't mind whoever is the Seme/Uke as long as the two of them are with each other specifically. She can't hang out with Snakes.
>SnailFixed pair, and fixed positions. Don't like switching and doesn't like seeing the characters in other ships. She can't hang out with Snakes or Frogs.
>GeckoLike a Snake, but for Semes. May have fixed ships like Frogs/Slugs but really just needs her favorite char as the Seme to keep her happy.
>SnailPrefers mob/tentacles/facless men x Character/s, rather than a specific canon pair.
>TurtleWilling to try whatever if it catches her eye. If she likes it, she likes it. If she doesn't, eh, such is life.
No.1663
>>1651Thanks, that actually clears it up for me! I'm surprised at snail, that seems super niche compared to the other preferences, I assume there isn't a lot of them. Also turtle gang rise up kek
No.1664
>>1663Some girls are very autistic when it comes to who's the top and who's th bottom in their favorite pairings so I don't find snails surprising. They're the kind of girls who would screech at you if you wrote the pairing name wrong because they exclusively like, idk, Sasuke/Naruto and not Naruto/Sasuke.
No.1666
>>1663Using tentacles and faceless guys makes it easier to concentrate all of their attention on their fav I guess
Plus some people are here for pure porn more so than relationship fantasies
I'm somewhere between turtle, frog and slug
No.1667
>>1663>ThanksYw! If you don't mind me rambling a bit, I doubt (or at least it's prob really rare) for someone to start out with Snail specific preferences. They most likely begin as a Snake and Snailism is probably just a result of a light going off and realizing they don't have to stop at just having their favorite with only other canon chars. Or like
>>1666 said, it puts more attention on their fav, which is something a Snake would really come to appreciate. I like to imagine pure Snails are super uncommon but Snake/Snail hybrids aren't. All that being said, I'm a Snake/Gecko mix with a bit of Snail thrown in, so all this is probably just me being assumptive and projecting a bit lmao.
Sorry for the autism, there's just something about this chart I find fun to drone on about. No.1669
>>1667Hmm that's actually a really good interpretation. For me at first it seemed a bit…lonely? To have a character with only randoms/mobs/tentacles etc. but from the perspective of liking a character so much to want the focus only on them, and that it's just a more expanded progression of snake preferences, it makes a lot of sense to me now.
No.1675
>>1672Lol somewhat related but I've noticed the majority of karamatsu stans tend to be snail fujos
or all the ones that I've met are like that anyway sometimes they're snake fujos but it's very rare for them to be geckos
like me. I wonder what it is about this poor bastard that awakens that snailism
No.1683
>>1675>I wonder what it is about this poor bastard that awakens that snailismIt's because he is extremely pathetic.
I'm a Karamatsu stan. Personally, I don't think I fit into any one role. Maybe I'm a turtle. I do see him as kind of a switch. I'm basic so my favorite character to ship him with is Ichi. And I prefer KaraIchi, because I think their dynamic is best that way, but I'm not picky and I will take the IchiKara too. I also think he pairs well with Oso, but when he does it ALWAYS has to be OsoKara, because Oso's top energy is stronger. I don't really feel him with any other characters, but doujins where he's raped by a mob or tentacles are good. He can be the family bicycle, too. And I like some female POV stuff with him, top or bottom doesn't matter. He is literally the only character I indulge yume fantasies with. Kara is just good in so many ways!
No.1684
>>1683After further consideration I have decided I am a snake/gecko hybrid and that this should be called a skink.
No.1751
>>1750That's because it's not BL, it's based on an Novel not classified as BL.
No.1759
Finished reading the one-shot Adana wo Kure. It was only around 40 pages but I enjoyed it a lot. The style it was in was refreshing and even from the little interactions the character's had you can feel the gravity between them. I also liked the fact that they don't rely on words and take more action and touching to show their feelings, wish this was more common in Bl.
The facial expressions are amazingly well done, and here's a link if anyone wants to check it out
https://mangadex.org/title/858899a1-63a3-476b-8d8a-003ea5c5b3e4/adana-wo-kureI would like to hear your opinions on it.
No.1779
>>1759Nonny, I just read the first chapter and it's not a oneshot. It has 6 chapters in total acc. to this site
https://mangamirror.com/manga/30167-adana-o-kureSo far I really like the artstyle and I'm intrigued to know more about the two and the plot.
No.1784
I hope it's OK to ask for recs in this thread, didn't see a specific one. Can any nonas rec me a bisexual yaoi? Something where the male protag is split between a woman and a man?
What I reeeeeeally want is something with an mmf threesome where the 2 guys start by having sex with the woman but end up being more into each other. Mega props if the lady is into it.
Thank you girleez I luv u
No.1786
>>1751NTA but in a lot of cases authors (such as the one for No. 6) refuse to call their gay love story "BL" because it automatically devalues it and makes it "trashy" in the eyes of publishers and readers even when it's clearly a love story about two men and there's really nothing about it that sets it that much apart from a lot of stories rightfully tagged as BL. Similar to how some people call their comics "graphic novels" to differentiate them from the genre with much less credibility.
No.1799
>>1787What a blessed creature you are. Tysm
No.1989
>>1982this manga was so mediocre tbh
No.1990
>>1989Why, was it the characters or something else?
No.2056
>>2055Yes that's normal. They only approve what they want to approve. Since I only like niche fandoms myself my shit only gets approved less than a quarter of the time. Hence I don't bother with that shithole anymore.
Use sadpanda.
No.2059
>>2056Different anon. Holy fucking shit I thought they approved everything given how much ugly CGI sets and awkward 3d renders they upload. Why are they choosing this trash over actual doujins. What in the goddamn
No.2060
>>2059probably related with how much clicks and therefore ad revenue they can milk off shit. ugly cgi/3d renders sounds like it'd be popular with coomers.
No.2061
>>2055No, it takes a while. t.another anon who uploaded to MRM, something even nicher.
a p2 doujin I uploaded it a day or two ago (27th) and it got approved today. It may also have to do with if you correctly added the right folder naming as indicated and such.
No.2063
>>2061I'm going to keep my eys out, I'd rather upload to MRM than sadpanda since I hate their UI and prefer a BL exclusive place.
Though I named all my files the same way so I'm kind of disheartened that the only on up is the Osomatsu one and most of the new stuff I see is furfag shit.
I was kind of under the assumption that
>>2059 had that literally everything was approved due to all the nondoujin stuff on the front page.
No.2068
>>2061It's really well known with scanlators and such that MRM's approval habits are pure whim unless it's popular so I wouldn't get their hopes up. It can take like 48 hours, but after that it's unlikely it'll show up.
>>2063>hate their UI>great tagging system, can actually filter properlyI don't get it. I also wouldn't call MRM a BL exclusive place anymore because it's clear they're now targeting the site mainly to gay men and half isn't even BL.
No.2071
>>2068Ok, thank you.
My main issue with sadpanda is just that a lot of basic features are locked behind a pay wall, like scroll reading. Also while having a tagging system is great I still have issues with those 200+ page hentai mags showing up in searches. Yeah technically they might have what I'm looking for somewhere in them, but based on the hyper milfs on the cover it clearly isn't the main focus of the scan.
I want something where men are the focus of the site, only gay shit, but they actually take whatever is uploaded assuming it meets minimum quality requirements.
>It's really well known with scanlatorsAre you a scanlator anon? If so beside sadpanda what other sites do you use? Or do you have any links to scanlators discussing the topic?
No.2072
>>2071I've seen it discussed in the pockets of fujo discussion on 4chan as well as the fujo thread on lolcow. You could probably look it up in a 4chan archive.
And no, for doujinshi, every other site just scrapes from sadpanda. For non-doujinshi people usually upload to either mangadex or bato.to with the other sites again being scrapers.
No.2079
>>2078I know nothing about donghua so I wouldn't be able to contribute to a full thread, but this show has a super cute artstyle so I'd love to check it out! Do you just find donghua on any anime piracy site or is it in its own areas?
No.2081
>>2079I personally pirate them if they aren't available on Netflix like heaven's official blessing and the like, I've found this one by chance when a Chinese fujo tweeted about it and spent an entire week looking for the source of it from the one screenshot she provided.
The story isn't a full BL since the demon boy has a crush on the angel girl but the BL comes in because the angel guy has a thing for the demon guy and it's cute and wholesome!!
Here's the trailer:
https://youtu.be/JrJrnPAjpbQ No.2082
>>2078I used to weatch All Saint Street a long time ago, I remember absolutely nothing except the werewolf and mummy guy haha. I might rewatch it so that we can have actual discussion.
>>2079In some websites yes, there are donghuas. I remember watching a lot of them like Fei Ren Zai and Luo Xiao Hei Zhan Ji.
Also most donghua are in generic 3D style, and many of them don't look good. Also many chinese anime have romance between a boy and a girl as a main focus, or are boring isekai about cultivation.
No.2083
>>2082Nonna, if other anon is down for it we can have an All saints street watch party! Let me know if you'll be interested, I'll stream on join (dot) me most likely.
No.2084
>>2083On january I'll have to be away from home for an entire month, so if we can make the watch party before january 3rd, I'll have a chance to join. I'm in european time.
No.2085
>>2084But let's hear first what the other nonna has to say.
No.2086
>>2084Sorry then Nonna, I have work after this weekend and on the weekend I spend taking care of my old lady, maybe after January, it can be a nice event for Fujo February.
No.2087
>>2086I agree that february is a good time. I accept.
No.2088
>>2087I'm initial anon and February works better for me since I work weekends.
Trailer has a lot of cute guys so I think a watch party would be fun. We haven't had one since Whisper of the Heart which was a movie, since this is a show maybe we could pace it out over the whole month? Watch the first season at least.
No.2090
>>2089I remember reading this but dropping it early on because the site I was reading on kept bombarding me with so many ads, I'd appreciate any anon who's willing to provide us with more of it so I can pick it up again
No.2091
>>2090I use Brave as my browser on mobile so I don't have that problem. Sadly it has only been translated till chapter 41, it's pretty good. It hasn't been updated in a long time so im hoping to find the raws and try to translate it myself even if I'm shit at it kek. I've seen other people also ask for raws in the comments but unfortunately to no avail.
No.2092
>>2090>adsWhat browser you using? Get Ublock Origin
No.2096
>>2095Never happens to me. Are you tagging shit and naming it properly?
No.2097
>>2096I think so? Male only, series name, character names. They're non-H so I have them in that category. Nothing else can be tagged since the site doesn't have a lot of non-porn tags
They're all Ososan doujins and I can see scrolling through the copyright that most of the doujins for the series have been down-voted to sub-2 stars
https://exhentai.org/tag/parody:osomatsu-san No.2098
>>1651I'm something of a hybrid between snake, gecko & turtle.
>Snake>Has a specific character she loves as the Uke. Not picky on ships with him as long as he's getting dicked.>Gecko>Like a Snake, but for Semes. May have fixed ships like Frogs/Slugs but really just needs her favorite char as the Seme to keep her happy.>Turtle>Willing to try whatever if it catches her eye. If she likes it, she likes it. If she doesn't, eh, such is life. No.2099
>>1651Haha, this is interesting.
I'm probably a slug (you mislabelled it snail I think)/frog mix.
The JP fandom and their tight ship naming conventions have always been interesting.
No.2100
>>2081I love all saints street!! It has so many cute boys, and despite having a forced hetship the girl is cute enough that I don't mind it.
I've seen it already but I'd be happy to have a thread (& watch party in feb), I feel like CN is making some nice media that gets slept on.
I'm being lazy, do you know if the latest (third?) Season got fully translated? The person I was watching took a break while it was airing… I should catch up on the comic too.
My favorite boy is Abu btw he's so cute and I've been an egyptboo since childhood. I don't feel like he has that good chemistry with the other boys but he would be good for snail content. Because he's such a background char I always get excited when he shows up at all lmao.
In terms of pairings, Nick/Lynn are so obvious and have such good chemistry. I think any fujo curious about the show should consider them, they're clearly the "main pairing" for us lol.
No.2273
>>2272The official merch puts them as dog and cat, which is pretty much shipping them.
No.2275
>>2272I love this art style, I've seen images floating around but didn't realize it was Link Click. Maybe I'll need to check it out, I had only heard about it but never went out of my way to see how it looks like since everyone was telling me that the two main guys aren't really gay.
No.2276
>>2272>>2273Oh this picked my curiosity the other day i saw it was on crunchy. Who's the cat and who's the dog? the art is cute and I like bastard-looking bishies, so I may actually pick it up.
No.2277
>>2078I'd been meaning to start a cnovels + adaptations (including donghua) thread but was being lazy. It's probably best to include both so there's more discussion.
No.2404
>>2403The cover looks like how Fukumoto fujos draw young Akagi.
No.2424
>>2403I bought the first volume and read it, it's pretty good, I like the whole "small town/village deals with supernatural horrific events" thing going on. Reminds me of Persona 4 (mostly the prologue and serious moments) and Shiki. The second volume in France will be released in December so now I either have to wait until then and avoid spoilers or I could read scans and wait for new chapters little by little and I'm not sure I'll have enough patience for that.
No.2427
>>2426Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru, for sure.
No.2428
>>2426maybe some of these too
>tsurune>k project>owari no seraph>servamp>sk8 No.2429
>>2426Black Butler
Hetalia
07-Ghost
Cardcaptor probably counts for fanservice
Kyo Kara Maoh
No.6
Rampo Kitan
No.2430
>>2426Add Tactics and Boueibu, maybe Air Gear
No.2431
>>2430I don't remember BL elements in Air Gear where were they?
No.2433
>>2427Can't believe I forgot to recommend Tsuritama as well.
No.2444
>>2426Add Fairy Ranmaru. Very homo.
I never finished watching Visual Prison but I remember it being baity as well.
No.2445
>>2426RobiHachi and Uchuu Senkan Tiramisu
No.2446
>>2431There was a m/m kiss involving the main character and Akito, who has canon feelings for him, though it's onesided
No.2460
>>2459I love Kim/Harry so I'll answer.
First off I don't think canon sexuality matters at all for shipping, but you can play him that way based on interactions with Smoker on the Balcony by indirectly flirting with him and by doing Homosexual Underground which when started says you don't remember your own sexuality. It is very much up to the player to select the options though and I would agree most of the sexual interactions are hetero, though getting Electrochemistry high expresses lust towards men occasionally as well.
Kim is a great character but you can miss that if you're a dick to him the entire time. He has the appearance of a no-nonsense detective, but as early as day one you can get hints of his personality and fun side with stuff like the hubcaps and SPEED FREAKS FM. He's a fan of pinball, is willing to sit down with you and crush the shit out of you at Suzerainty, and big Tip-Top Tourney fan. I thought the way he danced around political questions while subtly showing a distaste for most of the extremist in town was interesting, they basically drip feed you his worldview and politics and I felt like I was always learning more about him, this is amplified if you level up Empathy.
Of course Kim is going to try to keep you on track, the body was hanging for a week and you aren't there to mess around. And of course he's going to be annoyed if you treat him poorly, he shuts down extra conversations on later days if he hates you, but I don't think he's poorly written or boring at all. The interaction with him after the shoot-out basically sealed the ship for me.
Not sure how you can consider the Deserter having more depth and presence than him, while replays are interesting and allude to him very early on (especially with Shivers) I still consider him to be one of the least developed in the game, Working Class Woman is underrated though.
No.2462
>>2447Thanks, I'd been putting together a list of games to look for on retro/secondhand websites and I forgot this existed and wasn't aware it had a scene like this.
No.2478
>>2404holy god I keep accidentally seeing him as shotakagi too
No.2530
>>2529Nano and Akira in TNC.
No.2534
I forgot to thank you all for the recs! I'll write it down somewhere and potentially add more in this thread. I put Gegege no Nazo in my post but now that the movie is out I still have no if it's good, fun fujobait or if it's just Japanese fujoshi liking the pairing despite the movie having fanservice. It seems very popular, I'm looking forward to seeing it in a few months.
Unrelated but French anons, it's over. We didn't gatekeep enough.
>>2530Still can't get over Nano eating tree bark in his route. I still haven't finished it because of this scene.
No.2535
>>2534fack you. nano is best boy and its cute when he eats tree bark and is retarded. I don't care how many fat sweaty hot topic emo gurls mald over him being the true and honest ending say he's too boring because he doesn't run around in a leather thong like shiki, he's the best besides keisuke
who at least got a better death in nano's ending. WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE THAT HE EATS TREE BARK? GET OVER IT.
I wish he was the sole nc bottom instead of rin though, it would make more sense for him to know nothing about sex at all and have to be shown how to cum
but I guess since he went through horrific 24/7 science torture it also isn't hard to believe arbitro wasn't the only pedorapist running around at ENED and he got raped himself at some point during his time there. his sex scene was very shoehorned in and a little ooc but I didn't hate it.
No.2536
and the only good thing about that terrible tnc anime was when he casually walked away from shiki's cringe meltdown with his cute boob out
https://youtu.be/JAqtRsWldPw?si=0AdX-VrUqSN3hVUA No.2537
>>2535>WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE THAT HE EATS TREE BARK? GET OVER IT.KEK. Nonnie I love Nano too. I think it's funny that's the part everyone remembers instead of Nano's sex scene. It still haunts me to this day (in a good way).
No.2538
>>2535>WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE THAT HE EATS TREE BARK? GET OVER IT.This alone is selling me on finally trying TnC after nearly 20 years of being aware of it. Does it make a funny crunch sound or something?
No.2539
>>2537they might not have even read past that part. I tried, I really did, but I never understood why he's so hated. my only conclusions are he eats tree bark, he doesn't dress crazy, and cuz shiki told them to
/cuz he kills shiki for being cringe in presumably every ending besides the ones where shiki kills him or rin kills shiki, so basically bad taste. everyone is a rapist in tnc (besides motomi who isn't without his own sins with the soncon) so I don't wanna hear how he's just a generic "rapist turned lover" story like tetsuo just because he also happens to be a rapist when it's not like that at all.
nano is the male version of lucy from elfen lied with twin peaksy weirdness and kitties thrown in which is my literally dream yaoi boy, and akira has wayyyy better chemistry with him than lucy's uke did. how to not love that? I feel very strongly about this
No.2540
>>2538you're in for a bit of a long ride because you gotta do eeeeverything else before you unlock his route, unless you borrow a save. if you do that, you can skip to his without missing much or only do motomi's first, lorewise those two are the most important, but it feels kinda special to finally have his unlock after everything else. the whole game is fun though, very over the top early 2000s edgy, I recommend all of it. I especially loved keisuke a lot
wish we got the nano x keisuke/motomi x akira polyamory endings.
>Does it make a funny crunch sound or something?he is a tard and doesn't know better, he gives some to akira to eat too. akira gets scared he's going to start eating dirt.
No.2621
No sure if this fits in the vidya thread but anyway. I beat AI Nirvana Initiative a few days ago, liked it a lot even though I liked the story less than AI The Somnium Files. I looked for some Date/Ryuki fanart, fics, etc. and I find our the voice actors for these guys also worked on a BLCD not long after the game got released. It reminded me that a few months or years ago there were a lot of BLCD on soundcloud but not anymore. Does anyone know where I can listen to or download them? I'm so curious. I want to hear it so bad! The title is Karisome Bitch Minami-kun and I haven't looked for scans of the manga yet either. The manga was released in France but I don't feel like going shopping for that.
No.2622
>>2621I found both the manga and the CD on yaoiotaku but the links are dead. I wasn't able to find the CD anywhere else, so you would have to wait and see if someone reuploads it. Otherwise I recommend to buy it from a japanese second-hand site.
No.2623
>>2622Ah well, fuck. Thanks for looking for it, I'll bookmark yaoiotaku just in case. I don't feel like buying a drama CD I'm not sure I'll like just because the characters sounds like a pairing I like, I guess I'll just buy and read the manga someday and laugh at the mental image I'll get.
Drama CDs are expensive, when I was in Japan this summer I hesitated to get some of them but decided not to because of it. Maybe I'll buy some the next time I'll go.
No.2624
It's been ages since I've gone to DLsite so I only found out today they've got registered EN translators now. I'm sure a shit ton of stuff is and will remain untranslated but it's cool that there's gonna be doujin BL artists I'll be able to support directly in a way that also conveniently lets me read their stuff in english.
No.2626
>>2625"Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence" certified yaoi Christmas movie.
No.2627
I hate that I can't find the Pornographer BLCD online anymore. I think I'll make myself a list of CDs I will buy the next time I'll go to Japan (hopefully next year). Does anyone know why so many BLCDs were removed from Soundcloud more or less at the same time? It can't just be a coincidence.
No.2628
>>2627The CD you're looking for is on aarinfantasy I think, you need an account if you don't already have one. (I’m not familiar with this work so I don't know if I’m right)
https://aarinfantasy.com/forum/f127/t194837-pornographer.html#post4442529
>Does anyone know why so many BLCDs were removed from Soundcloud more or less at the same time?I'm pretty sure sharing BLCDs is a copyright infringement, someone must have filed a complaint after kids were spreading the word on tiktok or whatever. I've seen jap artists complain about scanlations before so I'm guessing they don't like seeing people not paying for BLCDs either.
I also plan to go to Japan next year. I hope you find all the CDs you want to buy!
No.2629
kinda related anyone know where to find korean audio dramas? both Ennead and Legs Which Cannot Walk have one but idk where to find them (they arent on af either)
No.2630
>>2628>I've seen jap artists complain about scanlations before so I'm guessing they don't like seeing people not paying for BLCDs either.I know why artist's wanna get paid for stuff they make, but it's so frustrating to have a doujinshi that's like a decade old get flagged and removed. It doesn't happen very often, but you often can't buy or find old doujinshi and art. I reupload some stuff to archive it. And a lot of stuff doesn't sell overseas.
No.2631
>>2630Doujin artists need to do what fic writers do and have some kind of tip jar set up front and center on their social media. I very rarely buy physical doujin because it's still a huge pain in the ass to order and at cons you're just paying like 3-5x the cost to the resellers. But if I know you drew a bunch of scanlated doujin I liked? Yeah I'll throw some money at you, I do that with exceptional fanfic writers regularly.
Does Japan even have some kind of kofi equivalent or is this lack of tip jars just a cultural thing (I know "tipping" is extremely American, obviously)? Writing this post as made me realize I don't think I've seen anything similar.
No.2632
>>2631>Does Japan even have some kind of kofi equivalent or is this lack of tip jars just a cultural thingGood question. Among the japanese artists I follow on twitter I've seen plenty of skeb and fanbox links but those are different from kofi.
No.2634
In Japan doujinshi are considered p4p and if you price them above standardised rates it's a huge faux pas. The reselling and purchase of second hand doujinshi is a total taboo in conversation because it's not funding production, it's purely profit. It's weird because there's so many places to purchase secondhand books, some stores even do lucky bags of them to reduce stock. But everyone's supposed to keep hush hush and never admit they do that.
No.2635
>>2634This is actually wrong.
I know some jp doujinka, and doujinshi are basically philanthrophic work. Essentially, doing it for free. Doujin artists spend their own hard earned money from outside work, to create something for their hobby (as many artists don't actually make doujin making their actual work).
Printing costs for doujinshi are extremely expensive and so is merch production, you're doing something out of love for a few people with little to no profit back at all.
Because you /aren't/ supposed to make a profit.
Something that westerners don't understand but is what Japanese fear, is that most companies don't actually take that kindly to secondary work.
They don't say anything, but you're not inherently allowed to make a profit with a property that isn't yours. This also even applies to fanart as well, the usual "do not repost" shlock is both out of personal discomfort and also because of fear of getting sued.
It may sound strange, but I was surprised about this too when I asked a jp artist that became my friend.
A reason why you see Mihoyo stuff absolutely fucking everywhere is because they actually allow the usage of models, fanart creation AND for you to get profit off it under certain limits.
The secondhand market is just kinda there, but jp are just extremely shy about their work or exposing such a "shameful" side of themselves so they don't like to put their shit again if they're really self conscious about it
No.2636
>Something that westerners don't understand but is what Japanese fear, is that most companies don't actually take that kindly to secondary work.
Ohhh, is that why Nintendo are total dickbags to fangames?
>They don't say anything, but you're not inherently allowed to make a profit with a property that isn't yours.
That's fucking cringe. Ideas aren't property to begin with, it sucks that copyright braindamage also exists on japan.
No.2637
>>2635I imagine this is why JP artists will sometimes just private or delete their old works out of nowhere. I'll browse through my pixiv bookmarks once in a while and see a bunch of art blacked out with that notification.
No.2638
>>2635>The secondhand market is just kinda there, but jp are just extremely shy about their work or exposing such a "shameful" side of themselves so they don't like to put their shit again if they're really self conscious about itI'm sure a part of my next statement is just confirmation bias, but this only ever seems to happen with BL ship artists! I never hear any of my hentai consuming friends complain about their favorite artists nuking their shit! The worst that ever happens is having to toe around "Pokemon".
No.2639
>>2637The disappearance of pixiv works is so sad. It's even worse when you can't exactly remember their username so you don't even have a chance if looking it up.
No.2640
>>2635Wait, how is calling it p4p wrong if it's p4p?
No.2641
>>2625Late, but I like to rewatch saint young men every year. It's got a new year's part too so I feel like you're still good to watch it now.
Their bromance is exquisite.
No.2643
I've seen some people online saying that the day when Hikaru died is a BL and others saying it's not, and some people say it starts as one and stops being one. What is the truth? I just got the second volume but I haven't read it yet, I'm not looking for spoilers, just for some answer. It's not sold and marketed as a BL where I am but that doesn't mean much, outside of Japan publishing companies will pretend a shojo manga is a seinen and that a seinen is a shojo just because of marketing reasons.
No.2644
>>2643I could be wrong, but from what I remember, the mangaka originally marketed the series as a BL herself, and when it got popular, she retracted her statement saying it was a BL. Some say that the mangaka did this just because the work got popular, and she wanted the work to be more 'mainstream' than a BL work. So she retconned her own category.
No.2645
>>2643Original pixiv oneshot was tagged as original BL, the published version isn't because it runs in a general magazine. The characters are still gay and it's still an element of the plot that can't be removed. People are doomposting about whether it will end with a couple or destroy it, and not being happily married means it's not gay at all or something.
No.2647
>>2644>>2645That makes a lot more sense now, thanks. Does the mangaka keep posting new chapters on pixiv these days? I remember Yarichin Bitch Club being posted on pixiv first and then being published by a publishing company and iirc the mangaka kept posting new chapters on pixiv regardless.
No.2670
Who is that semen demon in the /ot/ banner? The one that's got a cigarette (?) in his mouth and is pushing his hair out of his face.
No.2673
>>2670https://twitter.com/porong002/status/1406956961506099208Here's the source! It's apparently fanart and he's a character from a webnovel, "Guardians of The Video Game", named Manual I think?
No.2674
>>2673Wow the fanart looks nothing like the source material. Sasuga Korean fujos I guess. Thanks for the sauce nonna
No.2720
I want to listen to some BLCD that aren't uploaded anywhere online and I found that you can buy them on dlsite but I have a question. If I buy them there, would I get a physical copy and have to pay for shipping or will I get a digital copy I can download on any device? Because I don't plan on getting anything to read CDs just for BL.
No.2721
>>2720DLSITE is mostly digital products, but you should be able to check the individual specifications on each product. IE file type, compatability ect
No.2722
>>2721I'll check out what they have then, thank you! Unfortunately there's one BLCD I was curious about but they don't have it. However there's the option to buy the manga it's based on which is cool but I won't do it because for some reason even though there's no fan translation at all it's officially translated and published in my country. If there's any good BL manga that aren't translated yet I'll check if I can buy the chapters, the prices are cheap.
No.2724
>>2720For anything that isn't on DLsite, you may be able to find it on Amazon JP, but you need a VPN running to check out or it'll keep emptying the basket without explaining itself. A program like Audacity can record stereo speaker output so you can make copies of anything DRM won't let you keep on your PC.
No.2725
>>2723Anime gets less and less fujo friendly every year. There's so many straight romcoms and harems, and even a decent amount of yuri, but you see less and less actual BL or BL friendly anime.
No.2731
>>2730god i dearly wish i had fujo friends irl. the people around me are mostly normies and i don't have weeby friends. maybe it's for the better since im afraid id get cancelled for liking problematic shit or being twansphobic. perhaps im blackpilled from being too online, but i don't want to deal with mentally ill TIFs and overgrown womanchildren genderspecials. do cool, mentally well adjusted, reasonable fujos even exist in the wild anymore?
No.2732
>>2730I really envy you. I haven't even had a single friend who was into weeb stuff in general. When I went on a vacation to japan and visited toranoana and some secondhand doujin stores I was thinking it would've been great to shop with another fujo.
No.2734
>>2731They exist but good luck finding them. My friends and I met in uni because we studied Japanese and most students were weebs in the first place but we're all late millenials and most of us are either more like old school online nerds who believe in the "don't like don't read" motto, or found the perfect balance between being a normie and being terminally online. I'm not sure I can call my friends and I well adjusted though kek but it's completely unrelated to our hobbies.
>>2732I want to shop with you…
No.2737
>>2730I have an irl fujo friend and we always fight over top/bottom (half-jokingly) and complain about omegaverse fics kek. I'm very grateful for her, our friendship has an unique appeal compared to my other weeb friends because we can both sperg out to each other about whatever yaoiz we're currently into. She's quite normie aside from her weeb tendencies too so I don't have to walk around eggshells about troons or problematic tropes.
>>2731Yes but you probably won't find them in the wild. I have 2 mutual friends that are reasonable fujos and aren't terminally online in the annoying SJW way. Like
>>2734 said this type of fujo is more common among old people, I'm a zoomer myself but sane fujos seem like a dying breed in my age group.
No.2738
>>2737I don't think I ever argued over who's top and who's bottom with my friend except for Kakyoin and Jotaro. One of them believes that Jotaro just HAS to be the uke every single time.
Once we were having a long discussion over FE3H and Sylvain and Lorenz's supports. About how Lorenz looks like he would be the type to get raped by a mob in your typical edgy doujinshi or fanfic and Sylvain would most likely watch from the beginning until it's over with a smirk on his face to mock him. Poor Lorenz kek.
>She's quite normie aside from her weeb tendencies too What do you mean? I feel like everyone's criteria for being a normie is a bit different. My friend and I probably wouldn't qualify as normies once you know us very well but I guess at first glance we're your average late millennial women just trying to get by.
No.2740
>>2738>One of them believes that Jotaro just HAS to be the uke every single timeBlasphemous. I would fight on that too.
Honestly Lorenz is too ugly for me to even consider him getting mobbed.
>What do you mean? I feel like everyone's criteria for being a normie is a bit different.Normie normie in an almost boomer-like way. Aside from basic stuff like having a very active social life and going outside often, she's more disconnected from internet memes/trends than the average zoomer and never participated in fandom either (as far as liking art/fics goes). If she didn't like anime and manga her personality would be indistinguishable from my parents kek.
No.2744
>>2740We were saying this about Lorenz because of his personality mostly. We agree that he's ugly, but he's ok after the timeskip.
No.2768
I hate French weeb influencers advertising BL, they're always cancerous. Just checking one who's always retweeted by the usual publishing companies and it's a gay guy who seems like he's in his 30s so he seems to be a long term fan but he's advertising some tranny shit that just got released really hard and everytime he talks about a cute and/or comfy manga it's always "this manga is soft and melancholic and 2deep4u, you wouldn't get it…" like? Shut the fuck up.
>>2762I've never used this forum but tbh I understand why it would still be somewhat active, I can't think of anything equivalent that users could migrate to, including Discord since it must have a lot of posts and data from way before Discord existed.
No.2769
>>2768NTA, but discord is so volatile it's hard for me to imagine it's great for sharing BL content long term. I've heard nightmares about fan translation groups disappearing overnight in discord servers, deleting all of their content after a fight or something similar. Discord is great for talking but maybe not sharing I guess.
No.2782
Considering opening a second Twitter account just for fandom stuff.
No porn, but embarrassing shipping comics and pics that do not look professional on portfolio-Twitter.
Is it worth it? Any tips?
No.2783
>>2782>Any tips?Lay the groundwork for archival of fanart/ists you really like before you start retweeting/liking stuff so you don't have to scramble to save things/track down pixivs/etc when Twitter inevitably shits the bed for a final time.
No.2784
>>2783are you seriously telling me that people use twitter/tumblr as an archive for fanart?
Faith in humanity -1000
(You're supposed to save them to your harddrive first….)
Anyway, I mainly want to share my own fanart, and retweet stuff that fits my standards. Only I'm an actual career artist elsewhere.
No.2787
>>2784>are you seriously telling me that people use twitter/tumblr as an archive for fanart?A lot of people think it's just gonna be there forever, yes. They just need one beloved fanartist nuking their shit to learn their lesson though.
No.2788
>>2787>>2784I personally retweet art I like and download my twitter archive/data from time to time so I have the pictures on my computer and the sources/artists even after they delete their tweets or accounts. But it doesn't work if you only like the tweets. I do that because it's safe to assume that these artists might delete their accounts anytime they want and sometimes if the artists become pros they'll delete all their fanart to then only advertise their own original manga. Especially if they do BL.
No.2885
>>2884Holy shit don't get me started.
I'm assuming the author is trying (emphasis on trying) to replicate what she did in BJ Alex but it's really dragging on. Every week I've been crossing my fingers for him to lose whatever match he gets next. He needs to be taken down a peg.
No.2890
>>2885Yeah it's getting really repetitive and annoying. Him flipping the fuck out over his birthday gift is just genuine mental illness and made him go from funny angry beefcake to a cartoon villain. I get that Mingwa is trying to build it up to some big reveal but it's been a long, long while since we saw Jaekyung's human side (that he showed when talking to Dan's grandmother at the hospital) so I keep forgetting that he's capable of being something else than a schizo roidpig.
No.2909
>>2885Does BJ Alex get better later? It got old so fast for the first third I read. The seme was such a cartoonish psychopath without any recourse, it got exhausting.
No.2910
>>2909I say it does. Without giving too much away he does
end up regretting how he treated him and isn't immediately forgiven. I would give it another chance if you ever find yourself with the time.
No.2928
Looking at Haikyu BL just immediately transports me back to the early to mid 2010s on tumblr. It was pretty comfy and to be honest I'm still into Kuroken.
No.2936
>>2935I refuse to believe France is a real country. btw the prime minister is gay and may or may not have added his ex bf in the government. Who knows.
No.2939
>>2935this woman is so powerful i love her
No.2941
>>2936Gabriel Attal? He cute. Who's his supposed ex-bf? (Non french here)
>>2935Queen shit but how did she sneak this in lmao
No.3059
Any manga recommendations with frotting?
No.3060
I'm going to spend the weekend rereading my BL manga (and some other manga as well) and see if there are books I should sell because I'm running out of space on my shelves and some manga were better than others imo. I'm going to also make a list of BL manga I want to read, I'm considering reading longer series now instead of oneshots. What's everyone's opinion on Hanakoi Tsurane? You guys have recommendations for funny or comfy stories? Or ones with a lot of action?
>>3059I want to know too.
No.3061
>>3059me wo ubau wa hana no kao
No.3076
I know very little about Sword art online, just vaguely that it's about a VR game and there's waifus, so it totally threw me off when I found out there's a prominent BL ship in the fandom. Quite fascinating.
No.3113
>>3110Let's be real, it's obvious it was going to happen. It's been far too long since the last update we had. I'm disappointed but at least the anime was a complete story so the movie would have been more like a nice bonus, since it was supposed to be a prequel, it could have been worse. Even Suwabe posted about how he was disappointed that the movie is canceled.
No.3179
SPOILERS BELOW (pretty early ones but yeah)
Figure this fits here best? Just some mumbling about the Windbreaker manga.
So. I started the Windbreaker anime a bit ago, watched episode one then took a while to catch up as more came out. Ep1 wasn't bad but I did have a nicer time with ep2-4. I then decided, 'hey, why not check out the manga?' and so I started it last night, and took a break on chapter 27. Largely because there were a few things that just… really stood out, to the point I couldn't stop thinking about them.
The main thing, and most glaring is:
>Pacing
This started with chapter 6, because that's where we're introduced to Arima, Kanuma and Togame (second in command), a three-batch of antagonists from the rival gang, Shishitoren. The two following chapters we meet Tomiyama (SST's leader) and Sako, to round it out to five. They're going to fight against five of the main characters in a bout of one-on-one matches because of Sakura (mc) stepping into SST territory to save a Bofuurin affiliated student, during chap 5-6. This still isn't too bad, but the problems become apparent as soon as the matches start. The first fight is a total stomp, in Bofuurin's benefit. Okay. Second is essentially the same, with Suo toying with his opponent Kanuma. Sure, w/e. It's when we get to the third fight, Sako v Hiragi that I was kinda 'ehhh…'
So, Sako called out Hiragi for a fight back in chapter 7. Shows the two have history, right? Well, once their fight starts, we get that history within the same chapter that Sako loses the fight. Super fast, okay, but still no biggie. But it set a precedent for the two following fights: Fights starts>Lore for why the SST char is the way they are >SST member loses and has understanding beaten into them. As such, when all the fights are over, it's 5-0 in favor of Bofuurin, and Togame and Tomiyama now don't wanna be asshole leaders that focus on strength over all in place of caring for their members. Sako, Kanuma, and Arima don't get much screentime during this but I imagine they're probably in the same boat, too. Redemption for them isn't horrible but the issue is that they have hardly had any time to be antags and make it hit harder that they're now chill. To put it into perspective,
>Kanuma, Arima, and Togame introduced in chapter 6
>Tomiyama in chapter 7, Sako in 8
>Togame and Tomiyama redeemed and eating with the Bofu crew by chapter 27's end
No.3180
>>3179>Pacing cont.Again, Sako, Kanuma, and Arima aren't present but considering the change of mindset in both their leaders I imagine they're gonna chill out too. Put short, that's a redemption of five antags within 20-21 chapters, and if not five than at least two characters who were set up as major powerhouses and the most aggressive in their mindset and therefore the biggest opponents. As a whole it just means SST won't be a bother for Bofuurin anymore. I just wasn't feeling it. Especially since, until this point, they're the only antags for Bofuurin that weren't jerky randos on the street. But they're already not an issue now. And like, I can see what the mangaka was going for with the backstories, and such. They aren't horrible (Sako's the weakest imo) but again, the characters have just not been around long enough for it to hit home.
>Bofuurin themselvesSo, I said the problems become apparent when the matches start, but that's not just for the pacing. I said Bofuurin won 5-0 and that was kinda lame to me. For a little context, Bofuurin is a gang dedicated to protecting and serving the town they reside in. The town was originally full of troublemakers but Bofu helped calm things down and just make it overall safer to live in and move to. Goody-goody delinquents isn't innately horrible to me, kinda funny but I can roll with yeah? But the fights rubbed me the wrong way. Besides the first fight, Sugishita v Arima, and Sako v Hiragi each one has the SST member getting a stern talking to and then getting whooped. Suo v Kanuma is actually the meanest for this because Suo just toys with Kanuma while shitalking him the whole time, and Kanuma is literally pissing himself because the dude he considers a brother just got dropped in one hit and thrown off the stage like trash. I understand the intent with this fight, make the cheeky asshole see that it doesn't feel good to be looked down upon and bullied, but Kanuma especially just hasn't done enough as an antag to deserve the absolute dragging he got. Kanuma and Arima as duo are just so pathetic, tbh. But I'm going on a tangent about the wrong thing. As I said, Bofuurin is a gang of nice dudes, they're our main cast. I fully expected things to lean toward them and their beliefs but with these fights it legit just feels that whatever opposition just won't have a chance in Hell. Like, not a single win for the
newly introduced antags, even if there were only 2.5ish fights that were one-sided.
No.3181
>>3180>Bofuurin cont.And it just has me worried: it's one thing to have the MCs prove SST's mentality wrong and succeed after a bit of clashing but for them to immediately smack down the first group that could be a legit issue for them is just weird. I don't mind Bofu being like they are but not if every altercation defaults toward them from the jump. Having them struggle/lose but ultimately prove that yeah, it's better to care and use your strength to protect instead of w/e nonsense the other gangs get up to would be simple and effective. Even with it being touched on that not just SST, but Togame and Tomiyama both used to be way kinder doesn't make the turn-around feel as good. I know the Bofu has the just and good mentality, but I'm worried that it could fall into the trap of conflict hardly ever lasting because they are just so Wholesome and Right. Really think SST was fumbled, but I'm hoping it was just a misstep and not a sign of things.
I could do a little more about Sakura himself but I do think I'd like to at least read a little more. I don't dislike it, though. Art is nice and the fights are alright. And Kotoha is fun, really like her design. Ofc cute guys too. And neck biting! I feel weird posting this much when I'm not even thirty chapters in, feels unfair toward it, lotta stuff can happen later, but couldn't shake these thoughts.
No.3202
Sorry if this isn't the place to post this, but which of CLAMP's manga would you all recommend? I've heard they do a lot of fujo-adjacent type work, and I'd like to get into it. I'm also open to suggestions for any other type of manga, book, or light novel with a sort of 'almost BL but not quite' vibe (basically, a lot of boys, emphasis on plot/characterization, decent number of shippers in the fanbase). I like horror, mystery, and psychological stories. I am okay with adventure and fantasy if a lot of characters die, but not if there isn't a bunch of drama or really high stakes.
No.3204
>>3202Clamp is what made me a fujo so they very much are fujo-related!
If you want actual BL Tokyo Babylon and Legal Drug are shonen-ai and blatently so. Of the two I like Tokyo Babylon more and its made me fall in love with them.
In terms of more general works xxxholic has the same BL "boys with emotions" feel though the series isn't explicitly gay. Cardcaptor and its sequel series Tsubasa both have canonically gay side characters though the lead pairing in both those series is hetero.
Really the only two I wouldn't rec reading first is X because its unfinished and works better if you've read Tokyo Babylon and Miyuki-chan because its tonally different from the rest of their works. I don't hate anything Clamp has done and I think all their works have strengths.
No.3227
>>3204Thank you, nona!! I was kind of missing the feeling of shipping two characters who weren't explicitly together in canon, and was looking for a series that allowed me to do so, since I mostly read actual BL these days (hopefully that makes sense). However, I just looked up Tokyo Babylon, and it looks like exactly my kind of thing, so I'm totally going for that first kek. I'll probably get around to xxxholic eventually, but I'm very excited to start Tokyo Babylon!
No.3234
>>3202CLAMP generally has top tier men even when they aren't tied to fujo fanservice.
For fujo I absolutely recommend Tokyo Babylon, RG Veda, X (but that is unfinished), Legal Drug and maybe xxxholic if you like the designs. Not the MCs, but Kurogane/Fye from Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle were one of the most popular gay ships in the late 00s afaik and they are generally top characters IMO so you might give this a try as well.