No.53
>>52I shouldn't be finding this hot but I find it hot?? Help?
No.63
>>53lol same nonnie, if it makes you feel better digging deeper I later found out those are actully just oc's that were very "inspired" by the colombain case
No.64
>>63Definitely makes me feel better! It adds a bit of disconnect to the irl person so knowing that is comforting
No.101
>>52I adore that first pic, holy shit.
>>98This makes me really want to make a Metalocalypse thread on /wes/.
No.102
>>98Varg was so cute when he was younger. Now he's just a boring old white supremacist Twittard.
>>101Shit, I'd contribute to that thread. Why not?
No.103
>>102Hell yeah! (not sure if this crossboard links correctly lol)
https://fujochan.org/wes/res/106.html No.105
>>103Like this, nonna
>>>/wes/106 No.403
Nona who got way too much into Leopold & Loeb here
Has anyone heard about the new film about them? Anyone looking forward to it? I just hope they milk the whole black comedy angle for all it's worth.
No.404
>>403I have not, what's it called nonna?
No.405
>>404https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpLCovsrbhk&t=9sI found a trailer! The name is American Criminals.
What do nonas think?
Personally I'm not impressed by the modern-looking ballgowns.
No.406
>>405Not big into fashion so I'm not going to comment on the dresses, but the guys look alright to my untrained eye.
Also, it looks like they aren't aging up the victim either, which I appriciate because a lot of media like Dahmer is too afraid of making the murders actions unpalatable. I hope that is a sign this movie will be accurate in other ways too.
>>403I wanted to thank you for bringing these guys up. I don't know if you've mentioned it before and the posts didn't make it, but I was watching the Hitchcock movie The Rope (1948) and about halfway through they started talking about the Übermensch and the twisted ideas of superiority and I remembered your posts and realized it was based on them.
What I'm saying is you taught me something that I actually was able to apply in everyday life. :p
No.407
>>406Yeah, guys look ok, I'll give them that. Apparently it's a low-budget B-movie which explains the dresses.
Rope is definitely based on them! It's actually based on a play where the boys are more implied to be explicitly homo in a slightly more sinister way, as they're also stated as making passes at their poor manservant. There are double entendres and an implied crush and perhaps relationship with a former professor(Who in this version is a dreamboat, WWI veteran with a bum leg), which adds another layer to the whole 'gay as evil' thing, given the fact that the boys were sexually abused irl. The author of this play was an irl homo, for context.
My understanding is that quite a few adaptations went in with the idea of 'disturbingly close friendship 4 creepy' instead of homo.
Hitchcock found the homo so important to the plot and characters that he a) Didn't play it up for sensationalised creeps, and b) hired explicitly gay actors so that the chemistry would be authentic. Keep in mind that the Hays Code forbade showing homo at all. In a subtle chamber drama like that, I'd say it made all the difference.
(Feel free to disagree tho!)
I'm glad to hear you learned something from my rabbit hole diving xD What did you think of Rope?
I'll put up pics from a stage version of the original play once we can post images again :)
No.409
>>407Please, please, please post pictures of the stage play! I'm assuming there sadly isn't any good way to watch it? I'm not too familiar with theater.
I thought Rope was the best Hitchcock I've seen, liked it more than Vertigo and Psycho. When I originally decided to watch it I chose to do so because I'd heard it was shot like one long take, and I thought the closed room nature of the film played to that strength. I also liked how organic the film felt, there are a few scenes where the two leads are having a conversation of their own while the party guests are talking and it almost muffles them. Really adds to the feeling of the movie events happening in real time.
>Hitchcock found the homo so important to the plot and characters that he a) Didn't play it up for sensationalised creeps, and b) hired explicitly gay actors so that the chemistry would be authenticI definitely caught some of this but figured it was because old movies tend to accidently cast male friends in gay situations. Time to rewatch it knowing Hitchcock was fulling intending to convey the gayness of the real killers
No.410
>>409Tangential, but sometimes the homo subtext is definitely there and meant for dramatic effect, even if the director can't say it outright. The Hays code forbade it, but there are films that definitely make it come across as intentional.
Hitchcock knew how to use gay subtext for predatory and creep reasons, and did it well. Predatory homos can be hot as well, so not knocking that, but I found it really sweet that he saw the potential for drama in the gay couple in Rope, without having to explicitly play it up for creep factor. It's one of the more 'low-key' adaptations I've seen, I think it works very well because the characters seem like people one would know irl.
At one point, I recall it's made clear that there's _one_ bed in the apartment. One. A single one. Now why would that be :D
No.428
>>427Oh my gosh Nonna thank you for remembering! The posing on these images are so elegant remind me of doujin covers especially the one with his hand on the others shoulders. Thanks for posting them!
No.437
>>436ooh, great find nonna!! i’m basically never on ao3 for tcc content since so much of it is either edgy shit or reader-insert fics, but that art is fantastic.
No.453
>>452he’s def the most fascinating mass killer to me, although i’d never actually fallen down the rabbithole on him until this past march. i spent about a straight week doing nothing aside from researching him. what a fucking trip. the fact that he had a tcc blog is still one of the wildest details to me, aside from all the culturalphilistine stuff.
No.454
>>453It's really interesting, especially since he was super active on Columbine forms and such. I think his motives and such are talked about way less in the media as most drama is about the shooting being "faked." Do you think he is gay? A lot of evidence seems to suggest so.
No.455
>>454oh, 100% agree with you, especially on your second point. nothing worse than when the potential for a good discussion is stamped out by people who need to own alex jones. i get that the denialism and conspiracy aspect is arguably just as big as the shooting itself now, but i wish people would talk about something else in regards to the case for once. they’re the sandy hook equivalent of people who read anything about columbine and start ranting about wether or not eric and dylan were actually bullied.
as for wether or not he was gay, that is an interesting question. there’s the “queerforkimveer” account and its other associated usernames, but that could have been tongue-in-cheek much like his joke posts about eric/dylan and columbiners. homosexuality being a punchline was not uncommon in 2012. and there’s also that one email where he said a gif of james holmes was “cute,” but that’s just anecdotal. honestly, i think that due to his abnormal psyche and documented sensory issues (as well as all of his problems with society), adam could better be described as having been basically asexual. but in another world, i think he’d seem bi-curious, at least.
there’s also the theorizing about wether or not he could have been a pedophile, but that’s another tangent for another comment. No.486
>>485I think tcc generally faded, both in terms of shipping and general "fan" activity. I remember browsing tcc stuff in like 2017, 2018 and everything was much more overt. Nobody wants to get banned or called out for condoning now.
No.487
>>485Yeah, mostly on Tumblr. People constantly get banned though so it's hard to sustain a community.
No.488
>>98I want to send this shit to him on twitter and see what he does lmao
No.489
>>488tbh…. do it that would be funny
No.490
I think it'd be cute for a puppy ship between Kip Kinkel and Michael Carneal. They were both schizo shooters around the same age, and Michael was bullied due to rumors about him having a crush on a male student.
No.493
>>491that's why every teenage girl in the tcc was into hawkins tbh. he was pretty open about having a crush on kimveer though