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 No.300

Vintage Vinyl Edition

Discuss everything about shipping John Lennon and Paul McCartney from the legendary rock band The Beatles.

>Who the fuck are these guys?


John Lennon and Paul McCartney were the songwriting duo that created the majority of the Beatles discography. They wrote the lyrics and composed the melodies, allegedly writing more than 300 songs together though we only got to hear approximately 200 of them through out their Beatles career.

They met in 1957 at a church garden party. John had his teenage garage band, The Quarrymen, playing two sets at the party. After the first set, Paul was introduced to John by their mutual friend Ivan. Paul, who is left handed, took a right handed guitar from one of the band members and successfully played the song Twenty Flight Rock in front of John. witnesses to the scene describe it as an audition of sorts. John and Paul then circled each other like cats in heat and later they would both describe what they felt that day:

“I just thought, ‘Well, he looks good, he’s singing well and he seems like a great lead singer to me. Of course, he had his glasses off, so he really looked suave. I remember John was good. He was really the only outstanding member; all the rest kind of slipped away.”
>[Paul, talking about his first impressions of John, Record Collector Magazine, 1995]

“I was on a battered old guitar, which hadn’t cost much. A bloke named Rodney was on banjo, Pete Shotton was on washboard, I think Eric Griffiths was on another guitar and Len Gary [sic] was on box bass.

“There was a friend of mine called Ivan who lived at the back of my house and he went to the same school as Paul McCartney - The Liverpool Institute High School. It was through Ivan that I first met Paul. Seems that he knew Paul was always dickering around in music and thought that he would be a good lad to have in the group.

“So one day when we were playing at Woolton he brought him along. We can both remember it quite well. We’ve even got the date down. It was June 15th 1955 [sic]. The Quarrymen were playing on a raised platform and there was a good crowd because it was a warm sunny day.”
>[John, talking about how he and Paul met, quoted in Beatles Monthly No 2, September 1963 - and obviously getting the date really wrong - on purpose or not?!]

The rest is history. Through many trials, ups and downs, and stops/starts, John and Paul drove their band to become the most famous band rock and roll band in the world: the Beatles. For McLennon shippers, many of the songs they wrote are interpreted as being about one another: it seems almost all of their songs are McLennon songs.

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>>300
Tragedy struck as the psychedelic 60s dissolved into rampant drug use. John became an LSD evangelist and eventually got hooked on heroin, eventually marrying his heroin dealer Yoko Ono and infamously breaking up the Beatles. Paul was not an addict but misused drugs to the point of being heavily depressed by 1967, describing himself it as,

"I'd been doing a bunch of drugs, I wasn't in love with anyone, I hadn't settled down… I remember at the time feeling a little bit empty."
>Many Years From Now

Both men were mentally ill, depressed, overusing downers, and battered by the pressure cooker of being the most famous rock band in the world.

John Lennon initiated the break up in 1970 and after a tumtultous legal fight, the Beatles were no more. The Fab Four would never reform and play together as a group ever again. John and Paul remained in touch through out the 1970s but the relationship was stormy due to John's drug addictions and insistence on hiding behind Yoko and Paul's fleeing into his work and family life. Due to this they failed to resolve their existing emotional issues, including their fraught love affair.

John Lennon eventually moved to New York City with his heroin dealer-cum-wife Yoko, got into heavy PR battles with the US government when he used his fame to protest the Vietnam War, and produced eleven albums (one published posthumously.) He eventually became a hermit living in the Dakota until he was gunned down by a jealous attention-seeker on December 8, 1980.

Paul McCartney landed on his feet and formed the quirky band Wings with his wife Linda, had a family with her, and became a solo superstar in his own right. He is remarkably prolific, having made twenty six studio albums, four compilation albums, nine live albums, thirty seven video albums, two extended plays, one hundred and eleven singles, seven classical albums, five electronica albums, seventeen box sets, and seventy nine music videos.

While Paul denies having a romantic relationship with John Lennon he has publicly stated that he still loves and admires John and that he always has. His public regret is that he never made this clear enough for John to understand. He has since made his twilight years a living monument to his love for John, whether romantic or platonic. We will most likely never know if it was a romantic entanglement or not (there are multiple signs that point to "yes" including the fact that Paul has admitted they regularly masturbated together) but their love story is compelling despite its tragic end.

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>>301
>Youtube
Official Youtube Channel:
Contains the 2009 remixes of the Beatles albums and their more modern remixes. Skip the 2009 mixes when you can, they are gross and bad. Listen to the Super Delux mixes or to mono.

Understanding Lennon/McCartney: https://www.youtube.com/@breathless345

This user has gotten rid of a bunch of videos as of November 2022, do not know why so we're probably missing part of the series. Only the first two parts available right now.

>Movies

A Hard Day's Night - 1964 screwball comedy that studies a day in the life of the Beatles during their touring years.

Help! - 1965 James Bond parody with some magical realism thrown into it. Everyone is incredibly beautiful in it and it is delightfully fanfictiony if that's your thing.

Magical Mystery Tour - A series of music videos with only a thin veneer of plot. Paul's first big project after Brian Epstein's death. It's okay.

Yellow Submarine - A child friendly psychedelic animated movie featuring many songs from Revolver. Not voiced by any of the Beatles but it's still a good introduction to the band for kids.

Let It Be - A documentary filmed during the production of their last album, the titular Let It Be. Infamous for creating a narrative that the Fab Four hated one another in the last days of the band, notably coloring the memories of the suvivors.

Get Back - A 2021 recut of the surviving film and audio tapes created by superfan Peter Jackson, director of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Peter Jackson has created new technology that let him revive and remaster the original 1969 film in HD (yes really) and was even able to untangle the sounds to separate the voices from music. Peter's technological breakthrough was used to remix Revolver in 2022.

The Beatles Anthology - An 8 part documentary from the surviving members of the Beatles reminiscing about the early days of the band.

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>>302
woops forgot the beatles youtube link
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc4K7bAqpdBP8jh1j9XZAww

oh well

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>>302
>This user has gotten rid of a bunch of videos as of November 2022, do not know why so we're probably missing part of the series. Only the first two parts available right now.
They went down a few days ago it seems. Here they are archived on archive.org, thankfully.
https://archive.org/details/breathless345/Understanding+Lennon%3AMcCartney/Understanding+Lennon%3AMcCartney+vol+1_+Together.mp4
and on bilibili https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1H7411g794/

>>302
Maybe should have mentioned a few of the biopics.

- Two Of Us from 2000, directed by the guy who directed the Let It Be documentary footage. Essentially a professional fic about an imagined hang McLennon hang out in 1976. Paul liked it apparently.
Includes a kiss, so it's one of the favorites of the fandom.
Here's the kiss scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ep9EfP0BVs
I have no opinion about any other biopic.

 No.306

So I told him on the phone, “Either come or you’re out.” So he had to make a decision between me and his dad then, and in the end he chose me. But it was a long trip.
— John Lennon, interview w/ Peter McCabe and Robert Schonfeld. (September, 1971)

“I ruined Paul’s life, you know. He could’ve gone to university. He could have been a doctor. He could’ve been somebody!”
— John Lennon. (Anyone know the source of this quote? I've seen it around tumblr a lot)

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Anyone read the book of John's writing, Skywriting by Word of Mouth? Anyone know where to get a full rip of it online? Completely and utterly fascinating. Hopefully not getting too tinhatty and overly reading into stuff, but it is interesting.

Summary: While in a foreign location with an interest "methodist acting", a man is contacted by "Amie L'Nitrate" that she's waiting in Paris for him (note: amie is the french word for friend, also a possible pun on amyl nitrate aka poppers the gay party drug that makes anal more enjoyable). "Und then… God Only Knows by the Beachboys!" (note: Paul's favorite song). Great descriptions of fucking.
https://johnheartpaul.livejournal.com/1448574.html
Fascinating analysis in the comments too.

Connections to the 1966 trip:
https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/1966/09/paul-mccartney-meets-john-lennon-and-brian-epstein-in-paris/
"On this day, Paul McCartney, his secret lover Maggie McGivern and Brian Epstein travelled to Paris, where they met with Neil Aspinall and John Lennon (John had travelled from Germany to Paris and would flight to Spain, to continue the filming of “How I Won The War“)."
Paul, Brian and the girlfriend arrived in "seperately timed arrivals", so John and Paul having this time alone is possible.

And another story from Skywriting by Word of Mouth:
https://johnheartpaul.livejournal.com/2517644.html

Another one, mentioning a Max and "Amie" again, although the quotes are all annoyingly chopped up and edited in this post and I can't find a better one.
https://northernsongspeels.tumblr.com/post/188124259344/more-gay-excerpts-from-skywriting-by-word-of

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>>306
>“I ruined Paul’s life, you know.
I am thinking this is a fake quote as I can't find anything via search engine, probably from the LJ era since it's fairly old.

>>311
Check http://libgen.rs/, they have links to copies of Skywriting by Word of Mouth. You can find a lot of Beatles books on there too.

>Amie L'Nitrate

Absolutely. There's a lot there (analysis in the comments is indeed great) but to me the smoking gun is the poppers reference and IMO is the biggest indicator that they were having regular penetrative sex.

"Don't take me for granted," oof. Paul had a feeling about what was coming imo. And of course that's exactly what happened.

John was very revealing in his way, wasn't he.

 No.313

>>312
>Check http://libgen.rs/
Thanks I'm dumb. I only use libgen for comics so my setting were fucked.
>the smoking gun is the poppers reference
The thing is, with Brian also going on the trip, I had to consider that it might be referring to him. So the The God Only Knows reference, ending in a seething rage rather than death the next year settles it on Paul for me.
>Neither of them held each other down; in fact, they took it in turns. "One good turn deserves an encore" pretty well summed up their relations.
Favorite part.
Annoyingly, the livejournal post doesn't have the intro. (Character's name is Perry Maisonette, tying back into the granite/stonily puns. Also a type of apartment. Paul used Ringo's Maisonette as a demo studio in 66 and John and Yoko moved there later? Prob irrelevant.)

>I am thinking this is a fake quote as I can't find anything via search engine, probably from the LJ era since it's fairly old.

I found SOMETHING.
https://beatlebioreview.wordpress.com/2020/09/21/new-podcast-interview-satb-and-the-two-great-debates/#comment-2580
>Having more time on my hands than you at the moment, I looked around for the interviw you can’t quite remeber and found this bit in Ray Connolly’s Beatles Archive book:
>“Editing this article more than forty years after it was written what doesn’t emerge is that John was usually a witty and funny man with me. ‘I ruined Paul’s life, you know,’ he would say mock seriously. ‘He could have gone to university and become a doctor or something like that.’ Then talking about Paul’s happy and faithful marriage he would be mischievous. ‘For years he couldn’t keep it still, could he? Now look at him.’ ’”

However now I can't find a copy of The Ray Connolly Beatles Archive to truly confirm. I'm truly terrible at finding copies of stuff.

 No.314

Sleepy so onlu a small image dump for now but will take a stab at the Ray Conolly stuff later, good find on the quote!

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>>314
Small image dump from me too. v sleepy too haha.

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>>317
Feel like maybe we should ask mods to remove RPS from the front page images. I always feel bad because I know there's a lot of girls on here who hate real men and it makes me a bit hesitant about sperging out about them.

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>>318
I think that would be overkill, RPS is simply another form of slash fiction. Fujochan users are big girls, they can handle it.

Happy Thanksgiving nona, I hope you're having a good turkey day.

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Which album do you think the Most McLennon?
As a new fan I have no opinion and need guidance!

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Also Beatles manga, for your consideration. I can not find the full thing, but it appears to be Weekly Margaret1978年7月2日号(28)
according to here http://www.kudan.jp/EC/mrg1978.html
芳村梨絵「ビートルズ物語」 読切
Rie Yoshimura "The Beatles Story" One-shot
Third pic is John and Paul sharing a room, I think.

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>>320
Hey there! It's a little slow around here since it's the holiday season but we're glad to see a new fan!

IMO the most McLennon album is A Hard Day's Night followed by Rubber Soul!

>>321
Oh wow this is a wonderful find, thank you! I'll try to track this down and get a copy!

 No.323

>>322
>glad to see a new fan
Haha not a new fan to the thread, just the fandom in general. Only got into them like a month ago.

Currently listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DskYl2sF2wc

>>322
I found it on Japanese Twitter. It seems strange how small the JPN fandom is.

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Hello friends, I have returned. Its been a very busy December for me so fan stuff has fallen down the wayside. I have been thinking about doing a scheduled watch a long where we can watch Understanding Lennon and McCartney, might be fun to do discussion afterwards? It would have to be sometime in January though.

Other than that I've been soaking up McLennon screencaps. I'm constantly bowled over by the fact that Paul fell in love with John on the bus.

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>>361
>watch a long where we can watch Understanding Lennon and McCartney
That would be fun. It's all back on youtube, I think. I think I remember cytu.be being easy to use to watch youtube vids together if you wanna look into that. Maybe advertise on Tumblr and try and lure some people over here haha.
I've been slowly reading Tune In.

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What's the best resource for photos? I was considering trying to put together a little personal collection of best McLennon pics and vids in chronological order. Know of any projects like that?

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>>362
I never tried cytube before, I use watchparty. I'll check it out and see how usable it is.

>>363
Only blog I can think of is amoralto.tumblr.com, otherwise I don't think anyone has tried tackling this yet. Would be awesome to have as a resource!

 No.365

>>364
>I use watchparty
Oh no, watchparty seems easy I've just never heard of it, use that if you're use to it!
>Would be awesome to have as a resource!
Yeah it would. I'll have to look into getting it started.

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Three times Paul twirled John around while dancing.
Probably posted these before but wanted to post them all together. Very cute.

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I might try and post my favorite may/may not be McLennon lyrics every day or something for this thread. Feel free to join (1 per day maybe)

Day 1:
"Just Fun", written around 1958, a year after they met, a snippet is recorded during the Get Back sessions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFK37u9I6FM
[…] They said our love was just fun
The day that our friendship begun
There’s no blue moon that I can see
There’s never been in history
Because our love was just fun […]

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>>371
Well, I'll try and do it every day for a week maybe.
Day 2:
In Spite Of All The Danger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hADNCcYFjc0
In spite of all the danger
In spite of all that may be
I'll do anything for you, anything you want me to
If you'll be true to me

 No.470

sorry for the necro but this is weighing on my mind: is the appeal of mclennon purely a rpf thing, or is it more a conspiracy theorist “there was something more between them” sort of thing? i actually asked this before, but it was lost in the last raid. and the release of now and then has thrown me back into another (casual) beatles phase.

(and as a side note, what do the beatles nonnas here think of now and then?)



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