No.9407
>>9399This is what it is and why more and more old fans abandon anime or watch less, despite that the medium itself is gaining traction.
There are still always gems to be found in every season, but most anime aren't stories anymore, they're products to consume. The way an addict consumes alcohol. The context and surroundings do not matter, not even the taste matters, the only thing that does is that the person gets drunk because they want to be.
It's like this with most modern anime. Romances barely even have drama anymore because the men watching it don't want drama or any sort of conflict or story. They want a simulation. Just a MC meeting his waifus and becoming the subject of their adoration. Drama and twists would be nothing but a disturbance, so series avoid them. And I cannot watch that shit. I liked men-targeted romances in the past. Like many of the drama romance VNs. But they had stories to tell and problems to resolve.
No.9411
>another one of those threads
"Anime is stupid and bad" has been the nonstop main topic for years now. Guess it's the sad part about /a/ being gone, there arent many places to have a seasonal thread that isn't either reddit tier or "ANIME… BAD"
No.9416
>>9411Last shows I've watched have been great, really liked Classicaloid and Golden Kamuy.
This isn't a seasonal thread though just anime in general. I can never keep up with stuff while it's still airing since I tend to forget it or find the weekly release schedule isn't as enjoyable as watching at my own pace. NU anime isn't all bad, but it takes me a few years to get to the shows I find interesting.
No.9435
>>9411Sorry you find your strawman of my opinion not to be very original.
>>9408>his guy is a isekai loser protagonist?! Kek no he's not I'm just using the isekai slave waifu as an example of what the trend for current day love interest is in anime. The MC of To Be Hero X is a regular modern day guy who worked in hero marketing and is forced to impersonate a hero who's the embodiment of perfection. So of course he gets his girlfriend too, which triggers one of the most interesting episode I've seen in a while. So please don't drop it because of my stupid post.
>>9407I mostly agree, but then again it also depends of what constitutes "the disturbance". I remember getting love triangle burnout 10 years ago. When the conflict is just heroine 1 getting in the way of heroine 2 instead of both having their self contained conflict with the MC to overcome it gets real old real fast.
No.9438
>>9411I didn't mean to imply that. I just complained about certain trends. There are still (and there will always be) good seasonal anime out there. It's just the majority that is bad and honestly most female characters are really bad since they're written as wishfulfillment, even/especially in girl-only shows.
Right now I do enjoy Kowloon, Kijin Gentoushou, Ranger Reject and the new Gundam a lot. Still, the women=love interest/perfect housewife trope kills my interest in a lot of series. Even most battle shounen can't depict women as anything but MC's fangirls that beg him to marry them and become his devote wives. It's especially stupid if you aren't very girly yourself because it makes female character unrelatable but they have to be girly, motherly and lovely to not scare the otaku away.
Speaking about it, even if you don't count TbH X the four anime I mentioned have good female MCs and side characters.
No.9483
>>9442Thanks for mentioning this, I would have ignored this, assuming it was just another CGDCT show in a pseudo-apocalyptic setting but it's actually intriguing and kinda creative.
Door opening addict is the best bot.
No.9484
>>8179I started this and I've been enjoying a lot, unfortunately the teen protagonist is the guy I'd least like Mori to end up with. Both Franken and the teacher are much better imo.
No.9486
>>9484Based. I want Franken to win the vampirebowl.
No.9490
>>9484I am not following it but the bland MC was one of the reasons for why abstained from it. I wish manga and anime would stop making the MCs the blandest members of the cast.
No.9504
>>9500I find it a bit violent.
No.9513
>>4513shouwa genroku rakugo shinjuu
i've been trying to watch more josei anime
shin is a cute
No.9516
>>9513Good. When I started watching this I got so hooked that I binged it which I don't usually do. It also gave me a fascination with rakugo.
No.9569
I'm watching Black Butler right now. I just watched the Public School arc and started the new season. I assume this one will be just as short? I'm not watching anything else at the same time, I'm hesitating between starting Bravern, Sk8 the infinity and Bucchigiri for this weekend, and I'm only really looking forward to the third season of JJK later. There are other anime I could watch as well but they're longer so I keep them in mind for later.
No.9588
>>9584I totally forgot to start Kowloon Generic Romance even though I was looking forward to it, thanks for reminding me of it.
No.9590
Watching Basilisk and it looks so polished for its age. Can't comprehend the downfall of GONZO - how do you go from animation excellence to slideshows done on a shoestring budget? What a waste.
>>9086>skipped the whole rescue missionWhy do modern anime viewers do this?
>>9089I agree. It's just another self-insertion otome fantasy. It's ALWAYS the most popular guy in school/prince/brilliant loner detective/etc. I don't need to see it for the n-th time. There is no new ground to cover. No interesting, novel point to make.
>>9313How I wish they made an anime set in ACTUAL Hong Kong.
>>9407>And I cannot watch that shit. I liked men-targeted romances in the past. Like many of the drama romance VNs. But they had stories to tell and problems to resolve.100%. Something like Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien would never be allowed to air now. It would make people rage, nobody would support it. Angel Beats would result in Maeda's cancellation campaign.
>>9513Just a word of warning: you can't trust josei mangaka to deliver [WHOLESOME]. The voice acting was so brilliant though.
>>9569https://fujochan.org/f/res/3378.html No.9591
>>9590> Angel Beats would result in Maeda's cancellation campaign. I never thought about this from that angle but you're absolutely right. I was baffled about the outrage that time considering that his last anime did exactly what Maeda is known (and was loved) for. But it makes sense if you assume that the current viewerbase isn't used to twist of that kind anymore and so they were shocked and raged.
It's funny. Back when I got into anime around 2000 teens loved them because they were morally greyer, more daring and more provocative and shocking/surprising than the western cartoons we've gotten fed up with. Now I feel like it's moving into the opposite direction. The last few cartoons that I enjoyed were genuinely refreshing for doing things anime creators are too scared do while most anime fans are loving /a/ content now for delivering the flawless fluff wish-fulfillment they want to daydream about.
And yeah I watch a bunch of series this season too. There ARE still good anime out there, but this is still a problem.
No.9592
>>9590>>9591>Angel Beats would result in Maeda's cancellation campaign. >I was baffled about the outrage that time considering that his last anime did exactly what Maeda is known (and was loved) for.As someone that watched AB! while it aired with my school friends and never looked online for opinions about it, I'm curious about this since I can't think of a single thing to cancel Maeda/AB! for.
No.9600
>>9592Maybe AB already hints the dark stuff early enough to keep these people away but for the last anime of Maeda it was literally otaku raging because their sugary fluff comedy turned into drama at the end. Something they should have expected from Maeda if they ever watched his shows as they were airing. You can also tell by the engagement nowadays that everything just remotely serious is getting ignored by everybody but a little group of mostly older fags unless it happens to be one of the shounen that go mainstream. The most common complaints I see anons posting is them being afraid of any sort of future drama. Everything is supposed to be just a happy sim.
I would LOVE to see how a series like School Days would fare today. Must be fun.
No.9657
>>9656I've been a MikiShin fan ever since hearing him in YamiMatsu and I was so pleased to get another lively character from him again. There was a rough patch where he ended up doing perverts and LN adaptations in the 2010s, but lately his schedule seems to prioritize comedy and especially originals. I don't know what it is about his voice, he and Onosaka Masaya have a certain twang that's great. Wish there were more tired immortals for him to mumble and purr on though.
No.9663
>>9105Gotta stop lying to myself and admit that Night Head is on hold for a bit at this point.
>Sengoku Basara/Sengoku Basara NiSuper over the top and very fun because of it, and Date's engrish is 10/10. Not sure when/if I'll get around to the movie + Gauken Basara but I'm pretty confident I'll enjoy them when I do.
>RevengerHad a blast with this. It just clicked for me really quickly and I had a great time. Enjoyed all of the main cast, the fights were fun, liked the plot, just a solid experience all around imo. I wish I had watched it back when it first aired because I'd see it here and there on /a/, but it is funny looking through the archives now and seeing all the unhinged screeching about "fujoshit" though, kek. Kurima IS majorly cute, though, and I really liked his interactions with Souji.
>Aldnoah.ZeroIt's interesting, I was able to get seven episodes in before I was just… struck by the desire to stop. It's not that surprising though, the whole time I was watching I was just barely lukewarm to everything. The Martians were so cartoonishly dickish, but not even in an especially fun way. Just flat, and I wasn't super invested in any other characters in the show, either. I did like the protag's sister, Yuki, well enough + the doctor if nothing else. I have no idea when I'll get back to it because it feels weird to drop it with only 5 eps left but yeah, very low priority watch for sure.
I'll probably step away from backlog/impulse watches for a bit because I gotta catch up on some of the things I picked up this season.
No.9729
Has anyone seen Damepri? Apparently it's based on some mobile otome game but I've never played that I just own the blu-ray.
>>9727Is this the one that replaced the cast with female VAs?
No.9733
>>9732What show? I agree traps are better when they don't full pass.
No.9737
To be Hero X is getting some cool fanart
>>9732I actually like that, maybe I should watch s2 after all. I usually hate "draw girl, call it a boy" characters because they're such an obvious attempt of creators wanting to eat a cake and have it.
No.9738
>>9737I didn't think I'd enjoy it this much, definitely a season favorite. It's a manic mix of plot from BnHA, Tiger & Bunny with the violence of The Boys and yet, it's got heart. It's from the creator of Link Click and his filmography is pretty homo. I actually want to check out To be Hero and To be Heroine.
No.9739
>>9729I love Damepri, but your mileage will vary. It has a female protagonist who acts as the common sense straight man calling everyone out on their shit, and helping them to resolve diplomatic disasters as the only person with brains. There's a cutesy pink mascot creature that helps the one time but mostly eats apples. However, as a fujoshi, it's got quite some things going for it. For starters, all of the guys are undesirably stupid for the MC, she can't possibly marry any of them, they are nightmare fuel manchildren who need babysitting, and that's deeply unsexy to her. Her childhood friend has a far better chance of meeting her standards. Most of the guys she meets have a connection to another guy who is easily shipped with him. Narek has ~~his father~~ Riot, the serious knight assigned to keep him from getting himself killed, as well as Vino, his childhood friend who has a better head on his shoulders but would rather flirt around. Ruze has both his shut-in depression-anxietycore brother Mare and his sado-masochist PM Chrom. The guards under Riot can appear close, though I particularly liked the one in a relationship with a pigeon and the one who appears perpetually tired and anxious. There were more side character things going on with older men and Chrom's young priests, but basically, MC and her mother aside, everything is dudes conversing with dudes and being absurd about it. It helps that all the fanservice is focused on the guys, with pinup eyecatches in each episode, one ep devoted to age regression trope, another where everyone is naked while trying to solve something. If you can stand a female protag then it's a fun time.
No.9740
>>9739Strikethrough formatting didn't work again, boo. Might as well add that Narek and Vino come across as the most heterosexual (not counting Mare's magical girl waifu puppet obsession, but he pretty much states that 3DPD and he won't accept real women. Also MC's childhood friend who has actually been asking her out for years, but he doesn't have an obvious male ship to sink with that). Narek however is THE most manchild of them all, him blushing at a girl is easily hand waved as him not having any experience of anything. Vino on the other hand plays around, so he has no sense of commitment and is only trying to amuse himself and tease information from people. The only person he is committed to is Narek, despite Narek's total retardation and extreme vanity.
Also Chrom is just too much. Even with what he does at the end of the show there's no way that was all an act, he's so into it. He wants to get stepped on by shota 100%.
No.9857
>>9855I wonder if the show's viewership dropped massively or increased after the introduction to this character. I know lots of s1 fans who were there for just the shounen fights and have a peculiar taste incompatible with actual gay stuff.
No.9862
>>9857Are there any examples of a major series dropping fans due to manservice? I'd be curious if there are stats on that.
No.9864
>>9855please tell me he's a gay man and not a tranny
No.9865
>>9864He a gay man that identifies as a man
No.9866
>>9855This was a great week for gay shit.
>>9857I wish I knew as well. Would be interesting to see stats for Golden Kamuy too. Albeit historical seinen are more likely read by a whole different demographic. I doubt that there are many het male anons who are still watching Wind Breaker and Kowloon by now but image boards aren't very accurate representations of the audience as a whole.