No.2265
>connection to kiwifarms
What is it?
No.2268
>>2267No no I get that but I thought OP meant the admin of LC was in cahoots with null or something
No.2270
The fujos there are all welcome here
No.2271
>>2268>>2265it was a baseless accusation, that kiwifarm users had overlap with lolcow
No.2272
>>2269omg i remember this game it was so fun
No.2273
I was wondering what had happened. Crazy to find out it was because of the boobs teacher, of all the ridiculous things.
No.2278
>>2264>due to IRL MsWatt?
No.2279
>>2278>IRL Ms, GarrisonOP typo: "IRL Ms. Garrison", that shop teacher with the gigantic fake honkers.
No.2280
>>2279It's insane that this is how it all comes crumbling down. Kiwifarms, lolcow. All because they laughed at a few trannies.
No.2282
>>2280I hope the same doesn't happen with fujochan
But then again, we never doxxed anyone
If y'all know any lc fujos, tell them they're always welcome here
No.2283
It's simply unbelievable how racism, misogyny and homophobia gets a pass *everywhere* because of either muh free speech or faked inability to do shit about it but making fun of fetishistic white male trannies shuts everything down come hell or high water. I know why it happens but it never ceases to get bleaker.
No.2284
>>2280I've always found dumpster fire tourism inherently normie so I'm hoping they'll all just unplug instead of shit up another site. IMO if you aren't online for work, school, or to talk about dudes kissing you shouldn't have internet access in the first place.
No.2286
Can I get a rubdown on this real life Mr. Garrison? I've never heard of this cow before.
No.2288
>>2286Just look it up. Apparently some teacher wore huge fake tits to school.
No.2289
>>2288My googlefu sucks, but searching
>teacher wore huge fake tits to schoolbrought it up immediately, so thank you anon. Also wow, this is ridiculous. Way worse than I imagined.
No.2290
How can one random male betitted individual shut down all of LC and so quickly? There's cows on there who have been trying to take down the site or at least remove their thread for years to no success. Wtf is going on?
No.2291
>>2290>it's still downholy shit
could the site possibly get deleted?
No.2293
>>2285lolcow farm is dependent on obscurity to a much larger degree than 4chan. lc didn't have a committed admins, and they can't close registrations to fend off spam or fedposts.
4chan and kiwifarms have the capacitie to persist in the face of mainstream attention, LC does not.
No.2294
Oh no wonder this site is filled with 3d shit and twitter posts, you are all from kiwifarm
No.2296
>>2294>this site is filled with 3d shit and twitter postswhere ?
No.2298
>>2294The rest of us don't live in your delusional world, nona..
No.2299
>>2282But those sites never doxxed anybody either. All of the information on both platforms was publicly available. I feel like people don't know what a dox is.
>>2284If you're not online for just dudes kissing, you shouldn't have internet access altogether imo. God I hope the internet goes back to a nerdy cesspit one day because it's a bit fucked up you can't do certain things in life without internet access anymore.
No.2300
>>2282>>2299Yeah doxxing is banned on Lolcow, the rules literally state that you can't reveal any private/personal information of a cow or contact them in real life. The only person farmers actually "doxxed" was corpse husband and they didn't reveal nothing but his face iirc, and of course the zoosadists (that kiwifarms stole and got all the credit for) but they were literally murdering and abusing animals.
No.2303
Anons, I miss lc so much. Will we ever get news about what's going on? iirc there's a discord where the admin and farmhands could keep us updated but I never use discord so I have no clue if there are an explanations given there.
No.2304
>>2303I know the discord you're talking about. That server was removed due to transphobia.
No.2306
>>2303It took 11 days to get /ot/ and /m/ to work again and that was an internal issue, who knows how long this fiasco might last
No.2308
>>2285Because trannies like 4chan, they use it for porn.
No.2328
why do you lolcow tourists never talk about yaoi, only about how much you hate trannies and men
No.2332
>>2328How do you know what we post in BL general threads? You always come in to offtopic threads on /ot/ and /ffs/ and act all surprised when you're not finding us talking about anime men fucking there kek. Anyway men should die
No.2334
>>2333glad to see the site will come back
No.2338
>>2332>How do you know what we post in BL general threads?Cuz the BL threads are dead. Anyway, glad you admit you are from lolcow. Your site is shit and what you do is repulsive. Deserves to be taken down
No.2340
>>2327
Kinda cringe
No.2341
I dont care about lolcow or kiwifarm and obsessing over strangers on the internet lives is fucking weird. i dont even know why we are having this discussion here. fujochan isnt a gossip site so this is completely irrelevant. can people just stfu now and go back to fujoposting?
No.2343
>>2341i hope lolcow will go back up soon cuz it was such a good containment site
No.2345
>>2341A lot of anons use LC for the non-gossip boards, I know I do because I stopped caring about cows years ago.
No.2346
>>2339Go back where you come from and stop shitting this chan
No.2347
>>2339Ironic cause we all know kiwifarm is filled with dudes lol
No.2350
>>234295% of anything of note is generally men
Scientists, medical experts, manual laborers who built the cities and societies we live in, etc.
No.2351
>>2345I tried a few years back after finally getting fed up with the /pol/tards shitting up 4chan… and I got permabanned in a week for "being a male" since I went against the grain and defended an ecchi anime. It would have been 2017ish so I was still a retarded college student on a anti-SJW tirade (something I regret and look back on with shame) and I do believe I was probably overly confrontational, but I'm still bitter about being labeled a man for my interests. I can sit down and watch a fanservice-filled ecchi harem show and then read BL later that same evening. I get its not everyone's cup of tea, but me enjoying it doesn't mean I'm a lesbian or man. Having diverse interests isn't a crime. Though I do end up in rarepair hell since I end up shipping harem protag with the single other guy in the otherwise female cast. Lol
I know it's petty, but fuck lolcow. I prefer kiwifarms for the latest gossip. While it has a lot the same problems 4chan has, with people showing up just to say ochinchin and other racist trash without being banned. At least I can talk about all my interests without getting attacked. I still think women tend to overly police each other, and while it's important to have female spaces and keep creeps and trans out of them I think its also important to recognize that women aren't always going to like the same things, and being a tomboy doesn't make someone less of a girl.
No.2352
>>2351Oh nice we have an N-word filter, didn't know that. Good to know.
>>2350Only because of opportunity, it'll be interesting to see if and how the stats change in 100 or so years.
No.2354
>>2351>I still think women tend to overly police each other, and while it's important to have female spaces and keep creeps and trans out of them I think its also important to recognize that women aren't always going to like the same things, and being a tomboy doesn't make someone less of a girl.Yeah that's how I feel. Thank you for putting it into words. Women are not a monolith. I'm glad fujochan exists because at least here I get to be my unabashed self.
No.2356
>>2351You admit to being overly confrontational "anti-SJW" while defending an ecchi harem anime on a site that periodically gets male raids posting child porn, pictures of mangled female corpses and endless misogynist spam and men (including null, Kiwifarm's owner) trying to hijack and gain the site's ownership yet you're bitter about being "branded a male". My sister in christ you need to take some responsibility, the hypervigilance on Lolcow is often warranted and in 7 years I have never been once called a scrotum haver except obvious schizos who are probably trannies themselves.
No.2358
>>2353Thanks, but people come here to talk about BL, so hopefully mods do their job
No.2359
>>2356I recognize that the site gets attacked and spammed, I also recognize that I was dumb and young, but at the end of the day I made maybe 3 posts defending a show and that was enough to earn me a permaban after spending a week in the Husbando thread and other general threads.
I don't remember the exact contents of the posts, "something, something, who cares about pantyshots" probably, but while I'm sure it was annoying I'm positive it didnt warrant such a harsh punishment and I don't think my post history would have indicated I was male. Terrible first impressions, sorry if it's your favorite site but I'd much rather be where I can post about whatever series I want.
Oh well, in general I'm moving away from a lot of gossip and debate themed sites, I'm just too busy with my job to keep up with internet drama. With Kiwifarms being onion only for now, and my phone unable to access it when I'm at work I'll probably soon stop using it too.
No.2360
>>2351I've expressed opinions on hobbies that would make me look like a guy out of context too and never had issues, I think you got banned because of the way you expressed your opinion. Maybe you could still give lc a try someday if you want, it's been like 5 years since you got banned so I doubt you'd be acting the exact same way again. I only use /ot/ and /m/, and keep up with the MTF and FTM threads these days and it's comfy. btw post more Adachi please.
No.2361
>>2360Maybe I will at somepoint. I've checked their art commentary threads sincd a few times and enjoyed reading through them.
And yeah, if anything it was probably tone. I feel like I've grown a lot from high school to college, to now. I've come across old high school post before and i feel nothing but shame and embarrassment. I guess it is silly to hold resentment even if my first impressions were terrible.
>Adachi He's been my husbando for close to 7 years at this point and I've got tons of art. Would you be interested in a /f/ Persona thread? I wouldn't mind making on later tonight when I get out of work.
No.2362
>>2361If you create a Persona thread on /f/ I will post some of what I have as well then. It's art I've saved long ago so I'm not sure I'll have sources for everything though. Maybe it's best to keep Persona separate from the Megaten thread to not overtake it completely.
No.2364
>>23592017 was at least 2 admins ago and during the time when bans were handed out for literally everything due to the userbase getting out of hand and requiring a hard reset, I myself got banned multiple times for petty reasons albeit never permabanned. It's much more lax these days to the point it's almost too lenient. The good thing is that racism, misogyny and continuously replying to bait are an instant ban.
To be fair the userbase has split into two, the ones who come there for gossip and the ones who would much rather browse /ot/, /g/ and /m/. I'm one of the latter because I outgrew my interest in internet gossip and just want a space where to talk with other women anonymously.
No.2371
My problem with lolcow is that it feels like the average posters there are 16~20 year olds that spent their early teens on /r9k/. Then they turned into femcels once it settled in their dense ass heads that they're hated there. The amount of /r9k/ culture they try really fucking hard to copy is really fucking cringe and putting a female skin on it doesn't make it any better. The fact that /r9k/ is universally hated even on other 4chan boards should tell you enough about how cringe its culture is. I don't know why you'd want to copy it unless you're a dumb fucking kid. You're not "sticking it to the scrotes" by copying their lingo and letting them live rent free in your head. Same thing with Crystal Cafe.
No.2381
>>2371I love how scrotes keep repeating this "you're just like incels!!!!!!" rhetoric just because women want a space free of male bullshit kek
No.2382
>>2264Good, fuck that dramadyke gossip website. Hope it stays down.
No.2384
>>2371They could be naturals, there's a lot of bitter and hurt people out there
No.2387
>>2381Proved the point, really.
I wouldn't think "a space free of male bullshit" would look like a 1:1 copy of /r9k/, complete with ending every fucking sentence with "kek" 'cause that's what you think channers do. Embarrassing.
No.2388
>>2371I assumed anons are on average older tahn that but I his a bunch of threads on /ot/ and /m/, barely use /g/ and only check the tranny threads on /snow/ so I'm sure I'm missing a lot of conversations.
No.2389
>>2371for some reason a bizarre amount of them on there admit having bpd and one of the aspects of that is having no personality of your own and copying your fixation's. i can't remember if it was a confessions thread or "how did you get here" thread but a lot of them basically admitted to being failed pickmes on 4chan too so you're not far off.
outside of the designated fujo thread they have a seething hatred for fujos and will do crazy mental gymnastics to rationalize the hate. once a pickme, always a pickme, i guess.
i like fujochan cause in theory it's supposed to be fujo-only with a focus on fandom, but people need to leave outside culture at the door and start actually talking about fandom. i can only post up a storm on /bl/ and /f/ on my own for so long before it becomes obvious it's all me.
>>2385it's mostly young people with that mentality i think. truly what we need is a space that's not only woman-only, but zoomer-free.
No.2390
>>2389>not only woman-only, but zoomer-free.I would kill for a fandom space that didn't allow anybody under 25. There would without question still be drama, but at least you'd know it was simply a crazy person and not some dipshit kid who needs more time in the oven.
No.2394
>>2390Some literary and classic movies/series fandoms have a relatively old fanbase (as in avg fan age). Wish we could poach them and bring them here
No.2429
>>2386This is so cute. Sometimes i go on fit because the posters have yaoi energy when they bully each other into getting stronger.
No.2447
>>2385>>2386>>2432>>2446lmao I can't believe I'm actually starting to ship boards now
No.2450
>>2429/fit/ has always been so incredibly homo, it's honestly unreal.
>>2432I'm more of a /fa/ girl myself.
No.2455
>>2454Last pic is cute but cgl is dressed like an ita also why did someone edit her to be fatter in the last panel? Like the last panel just looks like an yaoi edit of the first panel but… I'm confused why they made her sad and fat?
should had made her a fujo instead No.2457
>>2455>Last pic is cute but cgl is dressed like an itaAgreed, I'm guessing whoever drew the last one didn't have a great grip on lolita? Maybe they're from /fit/ or something and have no fashion sense.
>should had made her a fujo insteadShe's usually depicted as one who also wants to be incestuous with her onii chan.
No.2484
>>2483which board should the thread be made in though ?
No.2485
>>2482Not to mention that the relationships between the board-tans would swing from furious hatefucking to gentle lovemaking.
>>2483You should start the thread, anon. It'd be fun to revisit old memories.
No.2491
>>24864chan x reddit
just imagine
No.2500
>>2496yeah that'd be a perfect thread, could someone make it
No.2510
>>2482>Tranny board x Nazi boardIt's the two things I hate most in their most scrotey form, yeah I'll pass on that one sis.
No.2554
>>2510I'm pretty sure back then the board wasn't that infested with trannies yet but i still agree with you
No.2555
>>2554>>2510Yeah I'm the anon that posted that image and while I love the trope of homophobic guy turns out to be gay the recent state of both boards is undesirable.
No.2556
>>2510I'm pretty sure /lgbt/ is just a gay guy
I really like the ship because /pol/ is exactly how I imagined it would look as a boy
No.2560
>>2555There was some shittiness to them even back in the day, which is expectable given what boards they are
I still think the ship itself is fine
No.2561
>>2560nice detail of /pol/ being depicted as non-white, its actually accurate
No.2568
>>2564On /lowcow/ or 4chan? Fujochan is the only imagebosrd I've visited in 6 months.
No.2858
>>2855CC has gone to shit for me. It wasn't that bad a few years (or even months) ago. There's this annoying influx of moids and trannies and I honestly have no idea why there's so many at a time at the moment.
No.2859
>>2850I'm glad tbh. I've been burnt out by Lolcow recently, there has been a huge increase in general scrottery and dumbassery, we're having the "muh twitterfagradfems ruining everything!!!" discourse repeated from 2017 AGAIN and one of the last posts in /ot/ is literal antivaxx sperging. The mods ban people sporadically but take ages to confront obvious bait, some people with certain opinions get to infight for hours on end despite being reported and it makes the entire modding process feel opaque as fuck. Also as a lesbian the homophobia on the site growing exponentially has made me pretty much stop posting because I'm a baby like that, it just hurts on another level to see (presumably) female posters whine about evil dykes trying to rape them.
No.2860
>>2859I'm sorry you had to be exposed to that anon. People are just trash sometimes.
No.2861
>>2860Thanks nonny ❤ Yeah I don't take kindly to people being openly racist and homophobic like I've seen a lot of threads devolve to, and I hate how one minute they're larping as based girlbosses calling for the death of all male babies yet then admire FDS-like bullshit of being fully dependent on a man staying willing to fund their lives. There's been a huge amount of anti-fujo sperging too and calling them misogynists because they're not into straight porn so I took that as my cue to fuck off.
No.2865
>>2861I get the feeling that most of them only hate men for personal slights like getting dumped/rejected/called fat once, and not because of actually concerning social issues like the insane rape/murder statistics for instance, and they'll quickly drop the act the moment some Nigel pays attention to them. Also they're way too enthusiastic to bully women over things like enjoying popular shounen because it's "scrote anime" that happened to have a distasteful fanservice scene at some point and they'll form their entire personality around that.
No.2870
>>2850It needs to stay down already.
>>2858Males, especially the trannies, fucking love infesting female-only spaces and ruining them like vermin. Luckily I think they'll steer clear from this board as it's revolved around fujoism, and men fucking hate that.
No.2876
It's up.
No.2883
>>2865It does feel that way, they will complain about the abusive shit their Nigels do day in day out but still pretend like they know their worth and make up for being a scrote enabler by policing other women and posting unhinged a-logging about male children. The historical pinkpill threads were full of that shit, literally just anons complaining about their boyfriends and then having meltdowns at other women for not staying in line for whatever arbitrary reason they came up with today.
No.3161
Anyone here still goes on lolcow? That place has been so puritan and anti-fujo lately. There was a whole yumejo vs fujo argument, i'm personally fine with both of them so it was crazy watching the infighting.
No.3162
>>3161most of the userbase here is from lolcow and they scared off users from other chans with their tranny sperging and moralfaging here. and yes, I’m also getting sick of the constant infighting going on there, that stupid rivalry between fujos and yumejos doesn’t happen anywhere else, who even fucking cares. the fujo thread especially has been degraded because of infighting, its sad to see how worse it got after the /m/assacre there were actually interesting discussions going on before. hope the sane nonas from that thread move here and make this place more lively.
No.3163
>>3162>most of the userbase here is from lolcow and they scared off users from other chans with their tranny sperging and moralfaging hereGood, no one wants troons here, Fujochan is a woman only ib. The moralfagging is cringe though.
No.3164
>>3162>that stupid rivalry between fujos and yumejos doesn’t happen anywhere elseBut even fujochan already had a heated rivalry thread about yume vs fujo some months ago. I know because I remember shitposting in it…
No.3166
>>3163You can dislike trans people without making a million threads about it. I don't care for them or for men, but it's tiresome to see that the bitching threads are 10x more active than the actual content ones.
No.3168
>>3163You can keep males off and still focus on the point of the site, the tranny threads just make this lolcow 2.0 and prevent fujochan from having its own culture and dissections
>>3164Well as I’ve said already it’s because 99% of the users here are farmers
No.3177
>>3161People there seem more angry these days…
No.3260
Down again
No.3262
>>3260Good. That site is trash, imagine spending your whole life collecting infos about real people and doxing it.
No.3264
WHAT THE FUCK ITS BEEN A WHOLE DAY I need to shit post with my girls
No.3269
The hilarious thing about lol cow is that those morons there really think it's actually female site. You have 100 doing thread made to harass woken likely full of moids.
No.3277
>>3264admins said beforehand they were doing a maintenance update, it should take a couple days
No.3305
Some of the anons are being needlessly childish about the new appearance.
No.3306
>>3305It looks bad to be fair
No.3308
>>3305tbh the old site newer looked good
No.3309
Are all the threads permanently gone? I can't access any of them.
No.3314
>>3309apparently they plan to move them to the new site, but it will take some time and the mods only confirmed it for /w/ and /snow/ and not the other boards, so all the previous fujo threads are now only accessible on archive
No.3319
>>3309I can't even access the website at all, I just get a website not found screen lol.
No.3320
>>3314nta but I never cared about the cow boards. Some of my favourite threads where in /m/ and /ot/ so it's a bummer that they will disappear. I'm also weirdly obsessed with archiving stuff because I hate when site disappears from the internet forever. But the chow boards are lc main attraction so I understand why they are getting special priority
a part of me just feels bad for the cows that their behaviour will be archived forever. I just wish I had seen the maintaince announcement so I at least had a chance to read trough some threads for the last time and save some pictures and screenshot some things for my own amusement
No.3321
>>3320Anon, you're in luck. All the threads can be found at
https://original.lolcow.farm/ No.3322
After massive backlash it appears that the admins won't continue their plans and old lolcow will ve restored
No.3334
>The thread about the schizo moid site has more posts than most BL ones
Stay classy "fujochan"(you can stop complaining about /ot/ now that you're banned from it)
No.3337
>>3335It's probably the same infighting obsessed fuck going around literally every thread in /ot/ to bait by complaining about people not talking about "fujo topics". On a board literally titled /offtopic/.
No.3338
>>3314So they decided to essentially nuke the site without so much as a warning, it's clear as day that people are more interested now in the non-gossip boards and that Lolcow evolved into a community offering an anonymous female online space. People shat on the previous admin relentlessly but she was great at communicating, always put up a maintenance and a townhall meeting notification on top of the boards and answered user questions all the time in /meta/. I never had a problem with her and don't know why so many anons kept reeing about her and always brought up that leaked discord message of her complaining about the users bossing her around just because she called them "middle class white girls". Hit dogs holler I guess.
The current admin has never introduced herself, never replies to user issues, never explains anything, never posts about updates or downtimes, you're just supposed to be in some super secret lolcow discord you get in by doxxing yourself. We don't even know if the current admin is a woman or not.
>>3320I haven't opened /snow/ or /pt/ in at least two years except when there's some specific event going on, during which I read up on the news, leave and go back to /m/. It's mentally ill behavior to spend all your time camping drama threads to document every single social media post and nitpick it to death, but talking about your hobbies isn't. It's really no wonder that /m/ and /ot/ became the most popular boards.
No.3340
>>3338>So they decided to essentially nuke the site without so much as a warning, it's clear as day that people are more interested now in the non-gossip boards and that Lolcow evolved into a community offering an anonymous female online spaceYou know very well the site was infested with men, it's a doxxing site first and foremost and basically 90& of the topic are about harassing women.
No.3342
>>3340Not a user since I think the site is too bitchy but aren't most of the cows on that site about like makeup and beauty youtubers and other women who wouldn't be that interesting to men? I always thought it was similar to the lolcow salon section of kiwifarms. Bunch of women feeling better about not being as fat or ugly as the people they're following.
Agree with you though that most "female" image boards are crawling with men. I think fujochan is the only on I've used that doesn't feel like I'm talking to trannies since the main topic holds no interest to 90% of guys.
>>3341Because the BL discussion happens on multiple boards like /f/? Use /all/ and lurk moar.
No.3343
>>3341Why exactly are you trying to start such a pointless slapfight? Just close the tab and use another chan if you hate it here so much.
No.3344
>>3342>Because the BL discussion happens on multiple boards like /f/? Use /all/ and lurk moar.Lurk moar only works if your board is active. It takes 10 minutes to browse the whole site, especially if you are not interested in most of the 3d shit.
No.3351
>>3344It's not like we're trying to be the next 4chan; it's fine if the site is slow.
No.3353
>>3351Yeah I love making threads and then no one answers for months.
No.3354
>>3353Happens on the slow 4chan boards too and nobody throws a bitchfit about it. /w/ was always my favorite board and it'd have threads that lasted upwards of 3 years because of the glacial speed. Plus if you're using altchans in general you should be used to it.
I assume you're the one who complained a while ago about having trouble getting /f/ threads going since a few /ot/ threads were getting a lot of traction at the time. What show/topic did you want to discuss? I think trying to get something going is more productive than complaining and I'm willing to give a series I'm unfamiliar with a go for the sake of a thread.
Really it seems a lot of the people mainly interested in 3DPD have left, those threads only get a big boost when lolcow is down. All the threads bumped the last week or so have been primarily BL focused
No.3355
>>3353Post in your own threads. I'm sure that at least one nona will take interest in what you posted and will reply.
No.3356
>>3353I'd rather have a slower chan than one that's constantly moving to the point you're away for three days and first you have to waddle through loads of low quality shitposting before you can even begin to catch up. I have multiple other sites that I browse and I have hobbies, I don't need to depend on a single niche imageboard to provide entertainment for me all day long.
And since you're shitting up multiple threads complaining about this, what exactly would you like to even see? Personally, I want to discuss the fandoms and my ships (which I do) and talk about my experience in the fujo fandom (I have all of /ffs/ for that and I'm eternally grateful for it) because I can't do that elsewhere. If you want to just be spoonfed content to satisfy your dopamine receptors then I suggest you begin replying to threads and creating discussion. If people are talking about the fandom experience, then that means it's an interesting topic and generates a lot of debate. If you don't like it, hide the threads. Browse /bl/ and /f/ only. Tell your friends about the site if you want more traffic. Throwing tantrums about people not doing what you want isn't productive.
No.3357
>>3356>what exactly would you like to even see?NTA but since I value communication and expressing exactly what one wants, I'd like to see more BL recommendations in the BL threads, like what did Nonna read today from MrM and similar sites? Which whacy new BL is she reading? Provided with a pic or two of the cover page or a good panel shot wither the manga is worth it or not. I'd also like to see discussion regarding yaoi art styles and storylines, either if it's in an intellectual manner or in a "I like/hate ____ this for ____ reason" manner. In already satisfied with what we have so far since I'm mostly busy with work even on weekends so my one hour lunch break with the site's pace are the perfect match.
No.3360
>>3357This is a good idea, I don't read as much original /bl/ works anymore, more into doujin culture, but maybe a mega thread for current interests would be good?
What did you read/watch today?
Current interest thread?
Daily Fujo check-in?
Anything more generalized would be good.I think a problem with some of the /bl/ threads have with getting going is that they are too specific, like "2022 Shonen-ai" anime. There's been only two or so BL anime that came out this year, if it had just been titled " Modern Shonen-ai" I think it would have had more luck and captured other years. So anything which the most posters can contribute to would be awesome.
No.3362
>>3360but that thread is called "seasonal / recent anime" so already applies to all years like you suggested.
I think the problem is more simply that there aren’t enough posters who want to discuss new anime and manga.
Although I do agree it would be good to start those questions in the /bl/ general.
No.3387
>>3341/bl/ needs to be split into two, one just for posting porn like /y/ and one for actual discussions. I would make more porn threads but it feels awkwardly like it would bury the little discussion over there.
But I suspect that fujos just don't have that much overlap in media we actually consume. Most probably are mainly shippers rather than consuming original BL. If everyone is in their own niche fandoms it's hard to get much active discussions going. I still take the current state of the board over 4chan which is active but 99% of what's posted there is shit and real discussion is impossible.
No.3388
>>3387I don't think it would bury much. I like to think most people know to catalog browse by board if /all/ starts to look too crowded, as well as tag threads to watch. IMO the site isn't active enough for a split like that just yet.
I do agree with you on the second point. "Meta" and the general goings on in fandom/BL spaces is what all of us have in common, so for better or worse that is what will have the most discussion (and venting, lol). Even the biggest fandom thread on /f/ (Genshin) is slow, so I like that we have general topics to unite us. I read every post here and even if I'm not interested or disagree it's just nice to know a fujo is on the other side of the screen. :3
No.3389
>>3387>I still take the current state of the board over 4chan which is active but 99% of what's posted there is shit and real discussion is impossible.Isn't that the truth?
I don't see the point in splitting the boars though, you can already make a NSFW thread there to post just porn.
Personally I'd love to learn more about other peoples fandoms and try to get into them. I'm hoping we actually have that All Saints Street party and wouldn't mind getting together to watch other series.
No.3688
Necroing this thread to vent because I'm fucking done. One of the mods of lolcow definitely has a thing against fujos.
>"Yumejo cringe" thread gets locked immediately upon creation
>Same happened for the "husbandofag/waifufag cringe" thread, when someone unlocks it it gets locked again without explanation
>Meanwhile the antifujo thread gets to stay up with no penalty and people can post the stupidest shit imaginable while anyone who replies with a rebuttal gets banned and redtexted in 10 minutes
>"Psychology of fandoms" thread gets revived, when one person sperging for days about how fujos are misogynists who hate all female characters gets BTFO'd everyone talking against her gets banned and the entire thread is locked
>Any time other threads in /ot/ get baited by racebait or other political sperging and infighting the mods are nowhere to be seen and claim to be severely understaffed in /meta/
>Someone posts in the antifujo thread about how the yumejo vs fujo infighting is stupid because men will always collectively shit on our hobby and we will always be held to different standards than men while they get away with the most heinous damaging shit imaginable and people start agreeing, a farmhand immediately comes to ban people and posts a reply under trip to yell at people to "stay in topic"
Like what the fuck is this shit, just ban fujos off the damned site if you hate them so much. No need to dance around the subject like this, out with it you cowards. Imagine being this fucking childish because someone likes watching anime boys kiss.
No.3689
>>3688I heard somewhere that that one of the mods sperged about fujoshi being a TIF pipeline, but I wouldn't know because the site is so unwellcoming I refuse to use it.
No.3690
>>3689i will keep saying it: lolcow is the facebook of imageboards
No.3691
>>3688I've said before somewhere around here that so much of the fujo hate is just people butthurt that they don't get copious amounts of [whatever character/ship they like out of their favorite shows] fanart/fanfic for free. They will never say it because it makes them look like a fucking baby, but it is without question the heart of the matter. Why else would they give a shit about what bitches do on their own time? If it were not wanting to see the content itself, word filters and blocking exist. They hate fujos so much because we have the most fun and the most content in the majority all fandoms.
Honestly this is exactly why people hate furries. As a non-furry I recognize they are a strong/talented community and sometimes when I see an objectively high quality work I'm like "damn I sure wish they were into shit I actually liked" but the difference between me and the people on lolcow is that I don't make up excuses like "it's degenerate" or "tranny pipeline" to mask the envy.
No.3692
>>3689That's the go-to cope they have about fujos, they claim to hate them because "it's a TIF pipeline" but like
>>3691 said the real reason is that they're terminally asspained about their favourite husbando's solo content being drawn by fujos for other fujos and m/m tags dominating all fanfic sites. That's why they constantly bring up how fujos "hate female characters" (i.e. their self inserts) and that fujos should be "writing about female characters instead of centering everything around men", meaning that they believe to be entitled to more content they can personally enjoy. They're trying so hard to dance around the issue to avoid looking like a clown that they pretzel their jealousy into some bastardized version of radfem ideology. It's telling when they're not satisfied with f/f ships either, it has to be m/f ships and specifically with a female character they can project into.
No.3694
>>3689>unwelcomingthat’s one way to put it. i definitely feel like the mods/“farmhands” try to lean way too heavily into the “ooh edgy imageboard” culture, and the users follow suit, which just makes it feel like women larping as 4chan men. and the constant “sage your shit” annoys me more than the people who forget to sage.
despite all that, though, i do spend more time lurking lc than cc. unless this place is down and i’m in cc’s bunker thread.
No.3695
>>3689Isn't one of their admins literally a tif, too? I heard it was more than just a rumor, and that one of them actually is a tif.
>>3692Honestly I think that is a big portion of the hate. I notice that I would get more hate on my fanfics if their was even a semi-popular het ship including one of the characters in my gay ship. I can't imagine that it's a coincidence.
No.3697
>>3691>this is exactly why people hate furriesAs someone who did commissions on furry sites for years, that ain't it. Not even close. Furries are their own can of worms as a result of an all welcoming mantra of acceptance and creative individuality, with a broad as fuck theme. Plenty of honest to god good eggs, but thousands of creeps, edgelords, and many cults of ego for anyone competent. Leads to some awful behavior that's difficult to avoid in their spaces.
The het shippers though, definitely losing it over the abundance of content that isn't for them. They're stuck in the same boat as the male otaku who can't draw or write, or even better forbid themselves from drawing or writing because it's "cringe", and yet their favorite show is only getting fujo art because none of them is stepping up to the plate. Sometimes your fandom is only what you make. If you want your rarepair you better serve it up yourself. I've moved back to tumblr lately and the autorecs keep throwing me yumejo concept posts covered in tags, and good for them, they're making the content they want and they're enjoying themselves, instead of glaring at other people's treasures and bitching.
No.3699
>>3689There are a few threads/boards I like to lurk but the bitching has just become too prevalent. It feels like it there's always a risk of it seeping into a thread and it's annoying. I understand not everyone is into BL, and sometimes they'll wanna poke fun/criticize the community. Okay. But it's reached a point where all it takes is an anon bringing up yaoi negatively, that poster will get called out and oops! Time for a slapfight. Now the whole topic just leaves people with their hackles constantly raised and always prepared to lay down their lives in an argument for/against it. The advent of aidens has absolutely not helped with this.
>>3692>fujos "hate female characters"This has been driving me up the wall as well. Do some people mistreat otherwise nice-enough characters for shipping reasons? Sure, I've seen fics do that. Though I can't readily call to mind any fandoms that do this a lot these days, and character-bashing is not exclusive to M/M shipping. A lot of their opinions feel as if they just… have not moved on from how things were in the early 2000's. Like, a lot of fanfics include female characters. They aren't total sausage fests, whether the women are in in F/F pairings (just "performative" to get the girls out of the way of yaoi, apparently…) or just as recurring side characters. Or, gasp, sometimes they will actually have dated one of the male characters before and simply have ended the relationship on good terms! It is absolutely not the festering hive of woman-avoidance/hatred they make it seem to be. Some chicks simply would like to see two guys kiss and will focus on that, please stop feeling compelled to argue the totally deep and dark psychological/political implications of this. Please, I beg.
No.3701
>>3688> Imagine being this fucking childish because someone likes watching anime boys kiss.It's almost like the site is mostly guys and christian puritan girls.
Who would have thought!
No.3702
>>3699It's never valid criticism that you could discuss and learn from, it's just some anon saying "fujos are misogynistic trannies" and challenging that viewpoint gets you get banned. Immediately. It's clear that at least /ot/ has a janny with a severe hateboner for fujos and it's possible that it could be even the admin because one of the sperging antifujos used some relatively niche terminology that I had only seen the admin use on the entire site.
I'll be anywhere to discuss fujo psychology until the cows come home but I can't do it with people who obviously do it in bad faith and come up with insincere theories they don't even believe themselves. I don't think any of them really think that fujos will inevitably troon out because they read too much BL or that they really hate women, but it's convenient for them to claim so. Everyone knows that the hatred is always about female characters that are literally written as walking tits on legs but the main character is supposed to magically be attracted to her yet they act as if fujos are out there hating all female characters ever and purposefully avoiding stories with well-written women. And often consider just.. I guess ignoring a female character or simply having more enthusiasm for a male one "hating her". It's just that specific brand of lolcow faux feminism brainrot which isn't about appreciating, respecting, understanding and supporting women but more like policing them and refusing all forms of self reflection, compromises and constructive discussion. Like when they hate sex workers not because sex work industry is inherently exploitative and dangerous to women but because they consider sex workers disgusting degenerate whores.
No.3708
>>3699>There are a few threads/boards I like to lurk but the bitching has just become too prevalentSame. The golden kamuy thread and sometimes the fujo thread and some other series/genre/game focused threads might be nice, the rest is bad and at best you get threads like the general anime thread in which every fucking series you recommend or mention is triggering negative responses unless it's another anime about arranged marriages or something.
And I avoid everything that isn't /m/ like the plague. Also, up to this day I still don't really know who this pakichan is no matter how incapable they're to shut up about it for a day. Like on /a/ I skip posts that thematize famed shitposters or e-celebs. I feel the same about bringing tumblr and twitter drama up or hate against specific twitter users that everybody assumes I must know.
I don't condone the shit many of them do btw. Yeah, tumblr/twitter are full of idiots etc. blah blah sadly I am simply not interested in social media bitch wars, especially not when I am about to post in a thread about a series, character or genre I love.
No.3710
>>3699>please stop feeling compelled to argue the totally deep and dark psychological/political implications of thisPeople generally need to stop looking so deeply into media and character preferences.
A lot of fujos do and can ignore the female characters, it's just about preferences and attraction it's no rocket science and there isn't any hidden misogyny either. 90%+ of all fanart and fanworks from fujos are about their ships and fanfics aren't novels, they are short. So there is rarely a point in bringing other characters up, regardless of their gender.
Besides that, most series do one gender right and either suck with the other or simply have no interesting roles for them. Most sausage fests simply have no female characters that are just as nearly as interesting as the popular males, same as most girl centered series like mahou shoujo anime have good girls but no good male characters (or rarely) and the series that have them don't give them much screentime because they focus on the other "main" gender.
Would anybody ever assume that male yuri fans were misandrists?
No one ever did this. But for some reason some women are so paranoid that they believe that every woman who some hot male action must be a woman hater. I often feel like there is more of a projection or hate-fueled OC shipper mentality at play here rather than genuine observation of others.
No.3712
>>3710>Would anybody ever assume that male yuri fans were misandrists? No one ever did this.People do actually shitpost with that on 4chins, as well as tranny accusations. It's extremely performative though, like
>>3702 describes I don't think anyone who says it believes it, it's just a way to start an internet fight. When they're done chasing women out of their image boards they turn on the yuri fans who only ever want to be cutesy and consume conflict free fluff.
"Stop liking things I don't like" has been made needlessly political so people can have righteous fury on the web and always consider themselves the correct side of everything. You can't lose an argument if your opponent is inherently evil by nature. Mods who remove points from the opposing side are no doubt justifying their actions with that logic.
No.3733
I can't post a screenshot since the image uploading is broken and I don't want to bring it up there and risk angering jannies but is it true that some prolific mod there is involved with the husbandofag threads? It would explain everything listed here
>>3688 that has happened under cerbmin.
No.3734
>>3708>Avoiding everything except /m/Same, though the rest of the boards seep into it like cancer at times.
The fujo to TIF pipeline is such a painful argument to me because it's so stupid. None of these people understand that correlation does not equal causation. What I want to know is how people into hetships got such an upper hand that they created this whole movement of little haters against m/m content. It's fascinating to me.
No.3768
>>3734That also pisses me off so much because one of the reasons for why I am into m/m is that I hate self-inserting and rather want to enjoy good dynamics between two well-defined genuine members of a world and you rarely get anything het without one character working as (you), even when it isn't a romance story. Even rarer is that both of them are on the same level, which is the next reason for why I like m/me.
Sure, f/m characters that are close to each other and also strong on their own like Lina Inverse and Gourry or Entrapta/Hordak exist, but how often? I just want something else than devote housewives, insecure school boys or male or female wallflowers.
The gender is of course relevant too but it's so much more than just that. And even if it wasn't it's no rocket science that people attracted to one sex are capable of enjoying fictions in which two members of said sex are fucking or showing an interesting dynamic.
No.3769
>>3768This is what bothers me so much about hetships, as you said the dynamic is almost always written as you x a character you dream of and the rest is just a self indulging fantasy. Most yumes of lolcow even go on to admit this because it's exactly what they desire from their m/f romances. They don't want well constructed, interesting dynamics that explore how they complete each other as characters, they literally just want a husbando x self insert fic and after all that have the audacity to call fujos brainless coomer zombies. Often right after sperging either about how they want to be choked and brutally impregnated by their psycho boyfriend 20 years older than them or how they themselves want to be the overly attached bpd-chan yandere girlfriend. I will never forget the anons in the husbando thread talking about how it's a biological need to be abused, fuck the yumemod who locked the husbandofag cringe thread out of spite in five seconds because I would have had so much crackpot shit to share there.
I feel for the hetshippers who lament the lack of good hetships because it's fucking true, they never have any effort put into them and you have to fill in the blanks yourself because most authors think man + woman = true love with no variables in between since they're just self inserting instead of observing a developing relationship in their writing. Lina and Gourry is a wonderful example of a good hetship I can get behind because - guess what - they have an interesting relationship dynamic and are both strong characters on their own. I genuinely think trashy LN/YA novel adaptations and the overall parasocial waifu/husbando culture amplified by shit like vtubers just ruined writing for good, it's hard to comprehend that there was a time when male authors were creating relationships that weren't just thinly veiled nerdy self insert x the one who got away dogshit and female het authors had higher standards than "he's hot and I can fix him".
No.3770
>>3768>I hate self-inserting and rather want to enjoy good dynamics between two well-defined genuine members of a worldBIG SAME. The "NO YOU ARE A SELF-INSERTING TRANS MAN" clapback I've seen lately is so insulting. Even when I was a tween (the perfect age to catch self-insert rabies) I thought it was cringe and already eschewed many m/f pairings in the stuff I was watching/reading.
>>3769>I genuinely think trashy LN/YA novel adaptations and the overall parasocial waifu/husbando culture amplified by shit like vtubers just ruined writing for good,I definitely think it provided an easy lowest common denominator to milk for cash. People who enjoy their craft will continue writing/drawing, but what gets pushed to the surface these days is on average worse than (or at least extremely derivative of) what was available 10-20 years ago.
No.3771
>>3734I don't think it's a huge movement, it's just a couple very loud autists, one of which may or may not be a janny. To gas that tinfoil, lc admin is a fucked up alcoholic who never pays any attention to what her jannies do. In fact, she intentionally picks stupid ones that won't try to start shit with her, and all the old mods who knew what they were doing left long ago on bad terms. She also likes to hold grudges against "rival" boards, for example ccc which coincidentally got ddosed and spammed with gore and csam just like fujochan right after its owners recieved a schizo anti-moderation rant from lc admin out of the blue. Lc is a sinking ship, has been for years.
>>3689This could've been lc admin herself too if it was under a farmhand tag, as jannies can't make those and there are no mods left but her.
Regardless, lc users kinda have a history of being easily memed to believe and like certain things as it is. Post enough in the other direction and it'll catch on eventually, you'd be shocked at how effective a couple of vocal autists can be.
No.3772
>>3771Wait, what's CCC and is there any proof of this or is this another Elaine schizo tinfoil? I haven't kept up with site drama since oldmin left.
>Regardless, lc users kinda have a history of being easily memed to believe and like certain things as it is. Post enough in the other direction and it'll catch on eventually, you'd be shocked at how effective a couple of vocal autists can be.Yeah well this is why I'm asking for proof here. To see if this is another stupid psyop.
No.3773
>>3772Okay so apparently this is what has been going on:
>Choachan.cafe (CCC), an imageboard created by Lolcow refugees who wanted to gossip about k-pop after the site banned k-pop discussion, is raided>CCC mods (or someone posing as them), for whatever reason, think it's the doing of the Lolcow admin>And for even weirder reason they think Lolcow's admin is some woman named Ashley who's the said "fucked up alcoholic" I guess?>This is based on her having pinterest pins of the mythical dog Cerberos, an entity associated with the current Lolcow admin "cerbmin" >They decide that all of the notorious child porn, gore, nikocado avocado asshole spam raids etc are done by this "Ashley">They spam "hello ashley" and "ashley is spamming gore again" on Lolcow and Crystal Cafe accusing anyone of asking proof about this of being her>They claim that their deranged schizoposts and random discord discussion screenshots on /meta/ being deleted is proof of their theory being right>In fact they are claiming that the last 3 admins were actually all Ashley's roleplaying personalities>We are hereLike didn't they accuse cerbmin of being blaine just recently? Seeing this levels of schizo behavior is bizarre.
No.3774
>>3773 (1/?, sorry this is a long post and fujochan has a small limit)
The CCC site admins were formerly the to most active mods and by two most active, I mean two *only* active mods aside from schizomin herself because all the others left. They blabbed about what she said to them right before it happened to another old mod which led that mod to do some digging, and eventually uncovered all of this.
>This is based on her having pinterest pins of the mythical dog Cerberos, an entity associated with the current Lolcow admin "cerbmin"No, this is the least of the evidence of it being Ashley.
Evidence that "Burritomin," Shaymin's predecessor aka the admin active while the ccc owners were at lolcow, is still on the team
>The unusual deleted posts and bans a former mod recieved in /meta/, which started with an innocent conversation between former staff being critical of site management and direction until she got involved. One of "cerbmin"'s most recent announcements promised that they would not be deleting this exact type of post in meta, tinfoil and all.>Another of her former staff recieved angry manipulative DMs from confirmed at the same time all of that was happening, posted in the CC thread>The sudden site change that happened last Christmas. Burritomin was the only one working on that, she talked about switching to lynx constantly and wasted a lot of time gathering codemonkeys to make it happen. An admin as detached as "Shaymin" would not have bothered. The meltdown that insued after the userbase wasn't happy with being dumped onto an empty new site with no notice was extremely in character for her as well. No.3777
>>3774*Two not to in the first sentence kek
No.3778
>>3774 (2/3)
About "Burritomin"
>This is the admin a rogue mod went to Kiwifarms to shit on a few years ago after they felt they weren't being listened to>From then on she ruled a much tighter ship, wiped the entire mod discord, moved to a new sock discord to help cover her tracks>Also kept janitors separate from mods to prevent communication (why the moderation quality began to fall so far: mods stood as mentors to jannies and Burrito herself was always a terrible mod) and deliberately chose stupid ones to ensure they wouldn't act up>Likes to hold grudges. Relevant ones are Null whose infiltration she became so paranoid about she feared any new mod or admin being a trojan horse for him, the CCC owners after they left her high and dry to tend to their website, her own userbase–something she was very vocal about in private which might explain some things to said users, and the lc old mods who worked under her>Developed a hatred for moderators in general. As I mentioned before, she sent the ccc owners a bizarre rant about mods being a hindrance and how good boards should only have an admin and some jannies (because that's working so well for lolcow now kek)>Is currently trying to drag several unrelated parties into this drama as best she can, one of which is another kpop board admin who has and wants nothing to do with anything lcf related>This other kpop board admin went through the same situation with the same spam (contact from "burritomin" which is who was active during the ccc owners time here -> gore, animal abuse, and csam spam under vpns) before this, only came into the CC thread after being namedropped directly by Burritomin who added another weird comment about how the CCC mods could've gotten in with her (that reeked of projection)>Is on bad terms with all of her former mods for reasons that should now be obvious, most of whom left lolcow entirely during her reich. The moderator posting in the CC thread most convinced she's Ashley is the oldest and historically best mod LC had by the time Burrito became admin.>Janny on /meta/ revealed that when the site was "given" to shaymin, she came into their discord and informed them they would all be fired without notice. The jannies were known to be treated as disposable losers who should be grateful to have the privilege of cleaning up cp and their own admin's shitposts. What followed this was a period of near absolute unmoderation and no communication, giving some credit to that janny's story. No.3779
>>3778 (3/3)
>But how does all this relate to AshleyAshley is a megalomaniac who wants to seize control of as many of these shitty little imageboards as she can, exactly the same thing she used to accuse Null of doing. She's a dramatic nutjob alcoholic who likes to pretend to be other people due to having no life of her own and is constantly on the search for lackeys to do her bidding. She has a deep hatred of Null just like Burritomin did. One of the potential lolcow admin candidates was going to be a husband and wife team, and she has an ugly husband who she would gladly drag into this mess. The Pinterest full of cows and cerberus pictures belonged to her. The timing of Lcf's tone shift to be more of a tumblr radfem sanctuary aligns with her being doxxed, i.e. she could potentially be trying to meme the site away from that scawy moidy kind of behavior to prevent prying. She is also friends with Elaine, something that could explain why despite her/Blaine being retards who shit up the board using free mobile VPNs they have not been banned and rarely have their posts deleted unless it's Nikocado's big fat moose bussy.
>In fact they are claiming that the last 3 admins were actually all Ashley's roleplaying personalitiesLook back at all 3 admins posts and behaviors and remember that the first of the 3, burritomin, is still working behind the scenes. Do you think any sane new admin would keep contact with an admin that atrocious after all this time? Especially after the shitshow today, she should've been fired immediately and she does not have the coding knowhow to add in a backdoor for herself. The moderation quality is at the lowest it's been since there were none at all and cp stayed up for hours, pointing to there being another bunch of jannies she couldn't be bothered to train or pay any mind to being the main moderators right now. Everything going on on Lcf aligns with her past behavior. The radio silence of """cerbmin""" during all this drama doesn't raise any alarms?
May have forgotten a few things but that's the jist. And no I am not the old moderator making those Ashley memes in CC right now. It isn't schizo, it makes a lot more sense than Burrito's side of the story. But Burrito/Ash is definitely trying to push the schizo narrative, it's proven effective before, and I'm sure all this does sound farfetched without the insider context.
No.3781
tl;dr Lolcow is fucked in hell forever and its admin is the satan of that hell. Sister sites will continue to be spammed with gore and cp which will all be pinned on le ghost soyjakkers and their notorious raging vendettas against teh yaoiz and kpoop.
Here's another cc post that summarizes things as well
https://crystal.cafe/b/res/251577.html#251922The difficulty in posting screenshots comes from her regularly hopping from sock account to sock account and nuking the mod discord servers without notice to prevent exactly that
No.3783
>>3701This is what i've been always saying but no one believes me, lolcow is made up of annoying gay guys and puritan tumblr females/so called "radfems" even though they don't respect other women.
No.3793
I can't post on CC because the mod is apparently big mad, so I'm posting this here. Do wish they'd given us any warning before deleting a bunch of posts I'd have liked to archive for summary reference, but not much I can do about that. If anyone has a cached version of the 1st cc thread open and can save the webpage or screenshot all of burritomin/relevant posts that'd be highly appreciated.
As for where to go:
Since there doesn't seem to be any related ibs to host us, can we temp communicate with something like a livejournal or some such?
If no better place comes up I'll post my summary once it's finished in the LCF KF thread, I guess. I really don't like KF at all but I'm not sure where else it won't be deleted from.
No.3796
>>3793Use livejournal, or if you're worried about places it'll be deleted just pay for a cheap $5 or so server to host a website with all the info plus a discussion board.
No.3797
>>3793godspeed nona, livejournal will work fine
No.3798
>>3795Thank you very much anon, that's perfect! I was able to fully save #5 since I had it open in my browser, but dumbly deleted my cache before seeing the mod post. Instead of showing me a ban on CC it just kept saying 'captcha verification error' and I didn't realize that meant I was banned, thought clearing cache would help. Going to start saving everything on an external HD (already started), real tired of having to tell curious onlookers that all we have is our word because deletions.
If any of the former mods are around, there was something I wanted to verify:
>who first made the connection between burrito/cerbmin/ashley? I know someone has said the 3c admins said something, but is there any more information on that? Were any of you told this by someone (or directly by 3c admin), or are you all in the same boat as the other anons here, lead to believe it is plausible due to the amount of 'coincidences', reactions and connected dots?
I don't plan to focus on this point because to me everything that has happened the past bit has been much more damning than any rumor. I onlu want to be able to cover this area so I can fully distinguish the current happenings from the claims of schizo spam drama.
>>3796Yeah, I've considered the latter as I have some experience with website design/coding and an offshore BBS board or chan is very easy to set up. Sadly I'm not sure I have the time to deal with it if someone decides to DDoS. I'm more or less hopeful LJ would be 'safer' on that front.
I haven't used LJ for literally like 10 years. Give me a second and I'll make one as a hold-over and post it here for everyone.
No.3799
Ashley immediately showed up to wk herself in her kf thread when I asked about her. Also apologies fujosisters for the invasion.
No.3800
I know this has to be the least important thing ever, but any input/care on community name?
I'm not super creative.
>dairydrama
>factfarm
>trulymilk
>farminglies
>milkmyths
>farmytruths
>commoncow
>uddertruth
>uncensoredmilk
>rawdairy
No.3801
>>3800+1 For uddertruth or something incorporating unpasteurized kek
No.3802
>>3800I like uddertruth and trulymilk. They role off the tongue nicely
No.3803
>>3800maybe
>unpasteurized milk?
No.3804
>>3801Alright, unpasteurized schizos it is! (I joke).
>>3801>>3802>>3803General consensus towards 'uddertruth' for the community name and 'unpasteurized milk' for the community title?
I'm going to give this 30 minutes more from the time of this post before creating, but if anyone wants me to wait longer for more input opportunities let me know. (going with the short wait span because I'm assuming this isn't super important to anyone?)
No.3805
Ashley was sperging in her onion farms thread under a new sock (axdes) just a little bit ago, even quoting posts directly from Crystal Cafe kek
No.3806
>>3798Someone named dropped her directly not just in a recent thread but even as far back as January in meta. It made people look into it more
No.3807
>>3806You mean when Hex name dropped Ashley randomly on meta and said she was a farmhand with zero proof? The time Hex posted alongside Blaine and Elaine to make up grooming rumors? Yeah that sounds like m.o of chronic dramafags. These messages from February with the admin/nyang/ami are illuminating. It's funny that boardowner never clarified if a moid did infiltrate, and if all her devices were really hacked. How embarrassing for them. The only thing I can appreciate is that they're not actually trying to dox me, because the information is so bad and off the mark. Not that they didn't obsess over deducing my true race and ethnicity for months beforehand, and tried spreading rumors that I was a tranny on cc bunker threads.
https://envs.sh/2c5.png No.3808
Alright, sorry for the delay, here's the bunker LJ:
>https://uddertruth.livejournal.com/Please consider creating a new LJ with a throwaway e-mail if you're going to join, to avoid our doxx friendly schizo from identifying anything personal about you.
If someone would kindly post this to the CC thread as well, that'd be great.
I'm a little sus about modding help for the community because, well, obviously infiltrating it would be right up our lil schizo's alley… but if anyone wants to discuss it or would be interested, please feel free. Discussion or suggestions on how to avoid issues with accepting mods would be cool too, if they even end up being needed.
I've got a work deadline to meet for tonight, but I'll check every hour or so to accept community member applications. I'll also try to spruce it up a bit when I've got more time. Any suggestions welcome - would prefer this all continuing as a group effort and will try to make any choices involving the LJ as neutral as possible, lol.
No.3809
>>3807If I'm reading this image correctly, Ami is literally saying everything you just claimed is illuminating is not true? Did you just… dismantle your own argument with your 'proof'…?
Why exactly are you following this from board to board to argue anons if it's just a silly, super off mark rumor, again? Aren't you supposed to be *checks list* spending time with your friends and family? I'm surprised you aren't disappointed in yourself for doing this thankless self-WK job.
No.3810
>>38071. I never named dropped Ashley in /meta/. I never came up with the idea she was cerbmin, nor did I believe it when I heard about it. I don’t know what to believe and I don’t really care that’s why I am not contributing.
2. I don’t even know what you mean by grooming allegations I have never spoken to Blaine. I don’t even know what grooming allegations have been spoken about regarding this.
I don’t know who you are or am going to assume who you are, but I did not do that.
No.3811
>>3807Oh and,
3. I have never said I was a farmhand. I have never been one. The only things I’ve know about is the Christmas shitshow; I don’t know anything past that.
No.3812
>>3810>>3811oh wow, that hex character who ashley namedropped before actually showed up. this marks the fourth person ashley has tried to pin this on who has come in to call her out on her lies kek. would you mind giving us some proof of your identity as the others did? most of us are unfamiliar with you. aside from ashley, who is most likely the anon you're replying to.
to the lj summary anon, this would be good to add.
No.3813
>>3812Can anyone clarify who Hex is/where they come into things, outside of Ashley's schizo obsession with them? Ie. were they a former LCF discord member, user of some other forum, staff of another LB, etc?
No.3815
>>3812>>3813 I really have little to none involvement in this. I posted the nenetl site on crystalcafe in December after the site shit itself, and I haven’t heard the end of it from this bitch since. This person does nothing but complain about how I fail doxxed her because the person on the site she was pretending to be isn’t actually her and thinks we’re out to doxx her. I just noticed the admin personas having similar personalities and suggested they were probably the same person. I don’t have 100% confirmation on who this person is but I would think that burritomin = oldmin = shaymin.
Here’s a pic of her badgering me after I posted her site. I don’t plan to contribute more because I honestly don’t know much past the incidents I know. However I have always been pretty open about correcting things said. So if that happens I’ll try to contribute but I don’t really think there’s anymore that needs to be said. You can go back through the older threads and see other posts. I don’t want to make any accusations but I can see why anons think Ashley could be the admin. There just isn’t really any definitive proof.
I modded the discord back in 2020 and got close to her but never really had any site involvement. She’d just vent to me about how she didn’t have a successor to the site and how she wanted to give it up and proceeded to never do that. In the choachan cafe downfall thread on /ot/ I posted a montage of different screenshots to try and give a rundown on why I thought they were the same person.
Sorry for the ramble!!
https://discord.com/channels/1068933870663241779/1068933872177401948/1150260646923993158 No.3817
>>3807so cerbmin just -happens- to finally post in /meta/ within the same hour as this post? after being radio silent up until? I can see why it seems schizo to point that out, but how many coincidences can we have…
No.3818
>>3815I appreciate you clarifying/giving this information! As someone who hasn't fully followed the /ot/ thread, could you kindly confirm if I've understood correctly:
>You used to mod the LCF discord(?) in 2020>You got close with burritomin but never had any site involvement with LCF >After you posted the nenetl site on CC/etc, burritomin went after you (?) – Could you explain how she knew you were who posted it on CC/etc? Sorry if this is already outlined better in the /ot/ thread
& Did she start becoming obsessed with you 'faildoxxing' her before or after you posted the similarities you noticed?
>Here’s a pic of her badgering me after I posted her siteSorry, are you saying that pic was after you posted nenetl, and it was run by burritomin? Or were you admining it, since in the pic she says 'your site'? (I'm not familiar with nenetl, sorry!).
And in the image you (Eris/Hex?) say
>because you didn't get the site? Do you mind explaining what that implies? Was burritomin trying to admin it, or are you implying she didn't understand the point of the site, or?
No.3819
>>3815Sorry for the double post, I'm
>>3818 just forgot to ask:
Did you ever voice chat with/hear burritomin's voice?
No.3820
>>3818>>3819>Could you explain how she knew you were who posted it on CC/etc? Sorry if this is already outlined better in the /ot/ threadI found the site through our mutual friend and she showed me it. At the time she didn’t know it was the admins site, the admin was in lolcow discord groups posting it. I think I mentioned how I found it on the thread and she put two and two together considering the only person who it could have been was our mutual. You can find more detail on this on the previous threads where the drama spilled.
>Sorry, are you saying that pic was after you posted nenetl, and it was run by burritomin? Or were you admining it, since in the pic she says 'your site'? (I'm not familiar with nenetl, sorry!). Nenetl was the oldmin’s persona, they used that username a lot. The reason she said that was because during the time I offered to take lcf when she struggled finding a successor. I retracted it after because I realized I am not a leader nor would I have the mental strength to. I don’t think it was a serious offer now of what I know.
>Do you mind explaining what that implies? Was burritomin trying to admin it, or are you implying she didn't understand the point of the site, or?See above. You can find a lot more context in the previous threads.
Check out the crystal cafe bunker threads if they’re still there
The choachan cafe downfall thread
And meta during January
No.3821
>>3819>Did you ever voice chat with/hear burritomin's voice?No, I did not.
No.3822
>>3820Thank you for explaining! Sorry for my confusion/I'm working on reading the /ot/ thread and such now. There's just a lot to go through.
tl;dr - I had it backwards and Eris was oldmin/burritomin/whoever talking, and the blocked out user is you, right?
I'm still kind of confused, though. if 'netnetl' is the nic of oldmin, then what is the 'netnetl site'? Or the site you posted on CC, etc?
No.3823
Can someone explain why this schizo keeps going on about choachan and why she keeps saying they have made allegations when I have seen 0 official statements from then anywhere since the site went down and just a lot of schizo infighting on the site about them? What's with the weird hate obsession for people that are seemingly not even involved
No.3824
None of you sound schizo btw, it's very telling how both CC and LCF banded together to call all of these concerns schizo and try and steamroll it as "gayops" or whatever other scrote term they like to use from their internet infight spheres. Also very frustrating for any anon interested in the truth but imo it's an obvious tactic designed to make you feel crazy, frustrate you, shame and embarrass you, so you will stop asking uncomfortable questions. When that doesn't work she will insult you with personal information.
There's two instances in the hate threads where this Burritomin thinks she has figured out it's someone and then insults them with personal info (Tesco - onlyfans whore blabla), (Hex ldr bf dumped you blabla) and when that also doesn't work she just locks threads, bans and deletes.
That in itself is suspicious and probably will make people get autistically obsessed with uncovering just what the fuck these idiots are up to so idk what they think they are doing but it's very stupid either way
No.3825
>>3824>That in itself is suspicious and probably will make people get autistically obsessed with uncovering just what the fuck these idiots are up to100%. I would've remained an oldfag primarily lurking and ignoring this entire thing if she didn't retard all over the place, now all of my attention is focused on it. whoever said the thing about streisanding was on the money
No.3826
>>3822It was a neocities site that she sent to people claiming it was her personal site. I only really know one instance of her sharing the site to another discord group. I don’t know if she shared it to other groups but Blaine managed to get it through the neocities discord or whatever. I don’t really know about that part people always correct me about it but I never care to remember kek.
I don’t know if there’s an archive link out there, but it held a list of accounts she had listed in there with the same moniker. Which is why we know she used by nenetl in other sites. I don’t understand why she shared it to others and then proudly admit she was pretending to be another person and it was a fail dox. I do believe it was a faildox I just don’t get why anyone would do something like that.
No.3827
>tl;dr - I had it backwards and Eris was oldmin/burritomin/whoever talking, and the blocked out user is you, right?
yes it is, I’m willing to answer any questions regarding what I know about the December incident but it’s been explained in previous threads like I said. Let me know if you have any other questions once you’re done skimming through them.
Also I’ve never used this site before and didn’t know Sage was implemented through the options kek sorry.
No.3829
>>2264We should compare Ashley’s posts to burritomins to compare writing styles
No.3830
>>3829I've done this for a few, at least for her onion/KF posts that are under her name - don't know about the socks. She doesn't repeat the same insult choices to the point it could be deliberate as many of them are so common in these circles it's weird for them not to be -ever- be used, especially when Ashley has such an extensive posting history. Other things like admin posts all do 'realise' and 'apologise' where as ashley uses 'realize' and 'apologize', however those could also be deliberate as they are common choices for samefagging. Other things, though, like circular logic arguments, accusations, the manner in which she insults, the threats, the 1-100 schizo tier tantrums, the love of gore/'spooky' 'witchcraft' shit, the… I'm not sure what the right word for this is, the 'phrasing', are all the same. There are many insults that are 'similar' despite using different words, if that makes any sense (I'll have to find a way to explain that better or document examples because it sounds ridiculous on its own). I think it would be ideal to go through her lists of socks and those that have documentations on various sites (like reddit) to see how she tries to make them seem different from each other.
I also would like to go through Ashley's pinterest fully and compare it to netnetl.me's tumblr posts, but the archive will only load a small amount of the tumblr posts for me… not sure if it's not fully archived or if my browser just gave up.
>>3826>>3827Thank you. I apologize for not mentioning anything about the sage sooner. I didn't mean to be rude, but I honestly didn't say anything because it made it easier to keep track of your posts (just incase, kek). I think I understand a bit more now, but I'm still reading through the full amount of the /ot/ thread and others (it's really all over the place, especially for someone who had no involvement/knowledge of discord or ccc).
If you so happen to have any lingering screenshots of your interactions with her where she uses words like 'realise' or 'apologise' and 'realize' or 'apologize' and such like that, for added reference, that would be great. Otherwise I will continue to compile things and try to put as much of the similarities/differences together as I can.
No.3831
>>3830Doubleposting to add:
It is well within Ashley's MO to racebait under the cover of SJW-woke-isms, much like netnetl did. I would have to review things more to see if there are any overlaps in their choices of feminism, but I believe an anon previously said they were different in those ways. However, that doesn't really set much for me, considering there are many posts of burritomins' where she outright rages at radfems/gc. Since Ashley is well known for changing her views based on her environment or sock larp of choice, despite being outright crazy of her, this wouldn't be fully disproving of anything.
No.3832
>>3830Interesting that the oldweb/nenetl was posted on Christmas and quickly swept under the rug as a 'faildox'. From what I remember of it, it was a sort of 'edgy girl' persona, kind of punk/goth, similar to burritomins ingenue persona. It wasn't quite as mystical/orientalist as the Pinterest.
https://crystal.cafe/b/src/1671883014978.png No.3833
So was nenetl a fake personality crafted by burritomin for reasons unknown? Her interest in feminism is completely different from Ashleys distaste for it.
Even kiwis think Ashley is too spergy to admin an imageboard and keep quiet about it, but what I'd like to know is where this came from
>>3779 >Ashley is a megalomaniac who wants to seize control of as many of these shitty little imageboards as she can, exactly the same thing she used to accuse Null of doingWhat's the source for this? Has she mentioned this before? Has someone close to her? I'd love to understand how the hell this connection was made, because up until this point she's only been known as an alco 40 year old that cannot keep herself from sperging and defending herself on all fronts… except she was never really mentioned on imageboards as much as she has on kiwi splinter forums, in recent history.
Both her and burritomin love to create sock accounts. From what I've seen, Ashley loves to create socks to defend herself and not much else (for example her creating 11 accounts just to react autistic to some kiwis post kek) but nenetl/burritomin seems to create socks more to remain anonymous, although badly so sometimes, and snoop around and not stick with one account for too long.
No.3834
>>3832Samefagging to add, this list of imageboards was found on the nenetl site. The site owner claimed to post it as an example of reprehensible behavior (i.e. keeping track of websites like shinigami eyes) that she disagreed with. But now I'm not sure.
https://crystal.cafe/b/src/1671885180451.png No.3835
>>3832>quickly swept under the rug as a 'faildox'Frankly I immediately dismissed it because I found the claim wild and it came out of nowhere, but once someone mentioned the yesterweb it was easy to find that she literally called herself the admin of lcf under the nenetl name which to this day I do not understand the thought process of. By far one of the most low iq moves of burritomin kek.
No.3836
>>3833It is not impossible that it is a false lead, or someone was wrongfully told/convinced of it and then spread it. However, I think we all sit in a position now where there are so many strange coincidences and abnormal reactions that it makes it hard to let go of it without first digging deeper.
I also have some consideration that the truth may lay somewhere in the middle:
>It was brought up that Shaymin was really a '3 person' identity >It was also brought up that there was originally a wife+husband team >There is a lot of weird admin incest in all the admin take overs, and times where former admins are remaining in the background to 'help' but 'not really' and often their departure is never fully clarified or confirmed. It is *possible* she, then, does have some involvement. But it's also possible our repeat admins have been a mix of people, hence the erratic but repeat behaviors. It is, though, very difficult for me to believe there are *three* admins currently, when there is not the presence or coherency of even half of a single admin. I could also believe that someone like burritomin or nenetl or whoever has crafted more and more larps over time because she really is a paranoid schizo and thinks she'll be doxxed. If she was not Ashley, then I would believe that Ashley did infact have some role to play, and(or) knew some personal information on her, and that is why she's flipping out so hard now, paranoid it would get out. They may be good friends in private, for example, and that would explain Ashley getting the Borzoi banner, or pushing the Cerebus character, out of collaboration over it being directly her. It does rub me the wrong way though there is that poster who is so insistent on saying 'but I thought Ashley is too dumb to code?'
- That really feels like burritomin-nenetl-whoever's ego piping up that she can, in fact, code, even though she is Ashley, because she had a weird fucking hang up about people thinking women can't code and blah blah blah. (Although knowing how to myself, I can tell that if she did know how to, she sure as shit didn't utilize it on the website kek…)
No.3837
>>3835everyone knows if it's a faildox you shut the fuck up and act like it's a realdox to get them off your ass.
No.3838
>>3834The transphobic etc sjw stuff is something Ashley is really big on yammering on about in her KF/onion threads, too.
No.3839
>>3830Kek no worries I just didn’t realize until I clicked on the options.
Here’s a screenshot of her using realize. Context in question is her talking about Elaine. She’s really obsessed with her for some reason.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068933872177401948/1150326690300571708/IMG_2935.pngHere’s another screenshot of her admitting to working on the lynx chan site to prove it’s her account.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068933872177401948/1150327101396897792/IMG_2936.png No.3840
>>3836I think ashley is definitely on the team or used to be at least, because the deletions are too obvious. Someone is definitely running scared and skeletons are being dug up. the deletions are the most suspect part of this entire thing and vindicate the accusers the most.
I will admit to posting some of those questions because the person on ONF/KF just seems incredibly low-functioning. Barely functioning enough to type out their repetitive insults let alone craft alter personas, and most kiwis seem to think so as well. Someone else pointed out that she probably just used code monkeys for the actual site and that makes sense, I guess she could even manipulate some low ranking tard into playing the burritomin persona.
The behavior of a new admin taking the crown, promising to be more present and implement changes, then basically go AWOL has repeated twice now. Also, this might be tinfoiling, but the insistence on ending things in '-min' rather than just introducing yourself with a first name like Ian and Regina seems sus to me.
similarities:
>both like to make socks and alt accounts>some branch of leftist politics>hatred of null, snail, girl IBs>insults about peoples weight>paranoid behavior differences:
>burritomin presented herself as very detached and above it all (despite how she felt inside), while ashleys posts are pretty emotional and quite obviously mad>burritomin bothered to use capitalization and format her posts>burrito was pretty manipulative and secretive whereas Ash seems to just go straight for the 'you're dying alone fucking autist' approach, which is pretty unsubtle. No.3841
>>3836>I also have some consideration that the truth may lay somewhere in the middlePretty much my opinion at the moment as well
>It is, though, very difficult for me to believe there are *three* admins currently, when there is not the presence or coherency of even half of a single adminThis can very conveniently be explained (which does end up making it sound sus I agree) that only one of the admins was tasked with the public relations aspect. The other two are in charge of coding apparently, which yes the site has received a few small improvements since they took over but their plan is on making a whole new imageboard. Frankly it's been 9 months already so I'm not too optimistic because there's been 0 progress updates.
>then I would believe that Ashley did infact have some role to play, and(or) knew some personal information on herThis sounds plausible to me because burritomin is a retard that willingly engaged with Elaine out of all people so it wouldn't surprise me if she somehow ended up communicating with Ashley as well. I wouldn't put it past someone that went into an actual tranny central to admit she owned an evil terf website kek
>>3834Do you remember which part of her site this was posted in?
No.3842
>>3841Sorry, all I have is the old bunker thread. It was linked to her through a now-deleted github.
https://crystal.cafe/b/res/198870.html#199196 No.3843
>>3839Ha, interesting, so she uses 'realize' in private (as Ashley does publicly), but from what I could see all ## admin posts in meta preference 's' (I will double check this). Don't recall off-hand if any of her recent posts on CC had any words that would show that, will check what we have archived.
>>3840>>3841Another similarity that still strikes me as interesting is that Ashley and Burrito were both very involved with Elaine. Ashley, for example, is among the first posters in Elaine's thread on Onion (and continues consistently posting throughout it for some time). Might be worth cross referencing if the dates on Ashley's onion posts have any cross over with the Elaine-hunt on LC/old screens (haven't looked myself, so maybe a dead end there).
Welp, I'm going to bed. This is the most milky autistic fun I've had involving cows for years, though, even if we're only speculating some things for now. Thanks all.
No.3844
>>3842So it came from the github, thanks. Her neocities mirror of the site is still up btw, which is why I was asking
No.3845
>>3843keep up the good work, anon!
>>3827>>3826>>3820>>3815and thank you, dear.
No.3848
thread locked, please do not discuss other imageboard related drama here.