No.10107
A comment in the rune factory thread about pedomoids reminds me of how as a teenager I was into Disgaea for a while because of the quirky world and characters and colorful art design but now I look back and feel that franchise was obviously aimed at moids and pedomoids more than anything else. I think at the time I just wrote it off as 'anime tropes.' I know there was a gay ship people were into in 4 but I remember finding out the tie-in manga had a teenage girl get clothing damage which weirded me out and it annoyed me that in Disgaea D2 they transformed the main character from a shota into a big titty woman for some reason and I ended up never even touching that game.
No.10202
I've been slowly making my way through the mana series and as I'm playing through the Trials of mana remake right now I find myself having a good time. The worst thing I have to say about the game is probably what most people end up thinking, that one of the characters has insanely obnoxious dialogue and even playing with japanese audio didn't actually make her likable. Though I just made an all male party because the game let me and to see if anything stimulates my fujo brain. Kevin is a cutie.
No.10264
>>10263I saw lots of fanart on twitter and thought it was from a new gacha game so I didn't even look that uo until the steam sales. My backlog is already big enough so I only added it in my wish list for now.
No.10468
>>10263As much as I like Maggie, I'm tired of her shit. I'm THIS close to murdering her so I can have a huge harem. I know the game is being worked on right now by the devs, but there is a huge lack of dating events for the other characters you can fuck/marry and you have no choice but to take her along and raising her passion. Give me a break.
I hope they make Nawfal a romanceable character because he's such an honest cutie.
Also still working on raping the Sultan. That fag's got it coming.
No.10470
>>10468There's a woman in there? Guess I lost my interest in it now.
No.10471
>>10468Very much agree. It's like the devs couldn't decide whether they want you to love your wife or fuck around. Some events garner resentment but others don't? And whenever a passion event comes up I always skip it. Stop wasting my time Maggie, I'm trying to create
a dildo to fuck the Sultan with.>>10470Yes, MC is married. But you can kill her off or cheat on her.
No.10473
>>10471>you can kill her offEasy choice hehehe
The fanart looked alright but I saw the pics on Steam and I was like, no way I'm going to deal with this nonsense.
Same thing with the Honkai game, I like the Mydeimos guy but I have no fucking clue when there games are so complicated.
I'll just look up vids and see fanart of the cute guys kissing and loving each other and be done with it.
No.10476
>>10466>>10475I respect this series for what it's trying to do but everything I read about it does sound like I'd just get frustrated. Particularly rng elements like having to flip a coin for your character to get a good rest. I enjoy the Persona series but I start malding whenever I get a gameover due to an enemy critting my MC to death from full health.
No.10516
>>10475>>10466I've finished the first game a number of times and I've gotten every ending in the second game as Marina! I plan to play as Daan next, who is the whole reason I got into the game for obv reasons hehe.
>>10476I also had this belief but I surprised myself by getting really into it! I guess it's cause of my foundation with RPGmaker games like Witch's House where it's mostly just memorizing what works and what doesn't and running through it a million times. It's a surprisingly fun gameplay loop.
No.10644
I've been playing the PSP version of Final fantasy tactics. I'm in chapter 3 and kinda mixed on it cause while the story and general graphics and music are fine there's some stuff about the combat system that irks me. At this point I'm just taking a detour to grind my units' Faith on random battle maps with Orators cause I'm sick and tired of Arise missing. Black magic is an annoyance too when friendly fire exists or when an enemy unit can just move out of range before it finishes casting. Admittedly part of my problem is that the only strategy game series I've been playing is Fire emblem and that just works differently.
No.10710
>>10708Huniepop is ok but the best thing in that set is Postal 1 and 2.
No.10711
>>10710That's also why I got the set. But I feel dirty having the other trashy shit littering my collection. Hid them away but I still know its there…
No.10713
>>10712There must be. Like I get being happy and for games like No Mercy being delisted from Steam, even I think those types of games should be dropped and only sold on porn sites. But some of those anons are really weird and keep ignoring the anons that are concerned with censorship because they can see the writing on the wall that this stuff isn't happening to "protect the kids" but rather just a push towards the government being given more control over what it's citizens can do on the internet.
No.10715
>>10713>But some of those anons are really weird and keep ignoring the anons that are concerned with censorshipYep, I haven't seen a single rebuttal against the slippery slope of censorship or banking institutions/payment processors acting like power-tripping monopolies with no state oversight. The narrow-minded focus on thinly-veiled porn vids re-skinned as games makes those posters look like either clinically-diagnosed retards or paid shills who simply follow a script. I don't know whether to feel sorry for their shit-for-brains assess that are yet to experience the 'jailed for offensive memes and trolling' stage (already happening in Russia and the UK -
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-45247879 ;
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/moment-catholic-mum-five-arrested-25184858 ) or feel offended how they view us (silly girlies that know nothing about what the overlords are cooking for us and would support any banning of porn, regardless of the context and the means by which it's done).
Anyway, you can check which games get removed from Steam here:
https://bannedgames.netlify.app No.10722
>>10715>The narrow-minded focus on thinly-veiled porn vids re-skinned as gamesThis is what really annoys me. Like it’s pretty obvious by now that only trolls are saying they are sad that games like No Mercy was deleted from Steam. The real issue is that some games that weren’t literal porn videos got deleted, itchio straight up delisted any and all nsfw games (thankfully they seems to be trying to fix that), Europe’s retarded twitter ai thing going on, ID verification for sites that should really just require a credit card to be verified, this whole “protect the children” farce going on, and other stuff along those lines. And they keep saying that yaoi games won’t be affected, but blvns were already treated poorly by Steam even before this Mastercard/Visa issue, so of course fujos will be cautious.
No.10723
>>10722With what I just heard about youtube trying to guess users' ages based on what they watch with ai and blocking content if the ai guesses users are minors I don't find anything understandable about what's happening on itch.io anymore. I don't want kids to have access to porn at all, I block anyone on twitter I see who's underage despite me not even posting anything nsfw at all, but it's clear the goal isn't to protect kids at all. The timing is too perfect aside from mastercard and visa blocking purchases on some Japanese online stores just a few months ago. Keep in mind that:
>youtube kids exists and is full of garbage like elsagate and other thinly veiled fetish videos for kids>youtubers who exploit their kids for views are tolerated on youtuber and paid>youtubers targeting a general audience can be automatically relegated to youtube kids without their consent, which means these videos won't bring in any money regardless of how many people watch them. It's been a while but I saw a youtuber talking about pokemon in one video saying that's exactly what happened and he couldn't contact anyone about it>porn is already not allowed>youtubers censor themselves if they want to get money regardless of the topics they talk about, which can create weird as fuck dystopian sequences like when a youtuber will talk about health, weight loss and obesity censoring names for eating disorders despite not encouraging viewers to binge or starve themselves at all>plenty of people now watch youtube on their smart tv and not on their personal (important word here in particular) computer or smartphones, so one family can rely on one account and kids can use the adult parent's account. If that adult is considered as an adult by the ai the kids have access to content that should have not been visible to them anywayI bet there are more inconsistencies here, feel free to add them if you want. Again, the timing is too suspicious, I treat this as completely related to what's going on on twitter, which by the way doesn't even hide all nsfw tweets but also hide some normal, completely decent tweets. I suspect that EU and UK laws about this could potentially clash with GDPR rules which are also European so I wonder how this will work out at least from a legal point of view. You're telling me the EU keeps fining big American corporations for keeping European users' data for longer than legally required or for selling data without anyone's consent but is okay with these same companies requesting very sensitive official documents or drawing everyone's portraits with shitty robots that don't work? Yeah sure. The lawsuits will be funny.
No.10748
>>10746Keep us posted. I'm curious to know your choice.
No.10752
>>10746me too actually! most of the LIs are ugly doe…
No.10753
>>10752The DCBurger portraits are pretty good if you want to ignore the original ones. There's plenty of replacement mods out there on PC.
No.10755
>>10746I also started playing it. Decided to start a single player save cause I’ve been playing vanilla with my friend but I wanted to try out some mods.
>>10752I found out the anime portrait mod has an unofficial update that completed the 1.6 update, so now I get cute boys all around, including no-mustache Harvey.
No.10866
I've been playing a pokemon fangame called pokemon Sage. I just met the secondary rival character and I like him already. He's a smug bastard (affectionate).
>>10746I went for Sebastian. I find him the most attractive and I vibe with his personality too.
No.11082
So… no bully, but I've been giving Date Everything a shot and it's such a weird game. I think the core concept is interesting, and the presentation is fantastic (character encyclopedia, each character has a unique song, fully voiced) but the writing just is not for me. It's very tongue in cheek in a way that's annoying and dripping with self-referential irony. Like if the writing was just a bit more earnest it'd be so much better. I don't know why western visual-novel-adjacent games at like this.
Also there's a gend
No.11083
>>11082Oof, accidently deleted half the last line before hitting send. Was going to say there's a gender selection at the start but I think it changes like two lines of dialogue doesn't block character interaction or anything.
No.11085
>>11084Oh man, one of these days I need to replay it with the updates. It's such a so-bad-its-good game and both intentionally and unintentionally hilarious.
No.11086
>>11085YIIK IV was genuinely really good, I recommend it! I played the original version and it feels like an unfinished build when compared to IV.
They redid the battle system entirely, lots of old text-only scenes were given pretty new cutscenes, there's an entirely new subplot with Michael and Alex's sister.. I won't sperg but it was good kek.
There's a sequel too once you finish the main story.
No.11087
>>11082>It's very tongue in cheek in a way that's annoying and dripping with self-referential irony. Like if the writing was just a bit more earnest it'd be so much better. I don't know why western visual-novel-adjacent games at like this.I avoided that game cause I could see it coming from a mile away. It's a subject I've complained about before here:
>>5801 but clearly ironic dating sims are effective youtuber/streamer bait so they keep getting made.
No.11094
>>11087>but clearly ironic dating sims are effective youtuber/streamer baitYou would think that the fact that VNs are "static" visually would prevent most of them from being made for a letsplayer crowd but it must work.
If I may complain some more. Another issue besides the dripping irony is that most of the characters are very foreword and sexually charged. Like maybe it's just me, but when I play a VN I don't want the character to be attracted to me right away, I want interactions and a bit of slow build-up. Ideally the game has a non romantic plot that can occupy most of the characters time. But in this one half the characters want to fuck you right away or the dialogue options you have are seeping with innuendo you'll naturally steer the conversation that way regardless. There's over 100 "Dateables" in the game, I get that you can't have a 20 hour slowburn romance but it makes most of the cast off-putting and conversations uncomfortable in a way I've never seen in a dating game before. Like I've played eroge less charged then this.
I bought it and it's not objectively bad so much as it's not for me, so I'll probably beat it. But unless the overarching plot really nails it in the second half I can't recommend it.
No.11096
>>11087>>11094Ironic and satire are a shield or an excuse for lazy writing at this point. It's more subversive to make a straightforward OELVN in whatever genre. If I'm a fan of VNs I don't want to see constant irony and outdated jokes about western perceptions of VNs. It reminds me of anime giant robot jokes in American cartoons 20ish years ago.
Give me a good fucking story with cute and sexy characters. Give me good art. Give me an immersive experience and sincerity. We don't need random wokeshit, ugly characters for "diversity", or spinelessness for people on Twitter who won't even play the game either. Pander to me, the playerbase, unapologetically. Be fucking confident in your game and concept.
Stuff like K-Pop Demon Hunters and Hazbin Hotel / Hellua Boss are taking off partially because they have a concept and stick to it. Vivzie makes gay cartoons for theater kids unapologetically and it works.
No.11097
>>11096Overseas former anime fans in general have this weird perspective that because they've "grown out" of anime (chances are they were never that heavily into otaku culture to begin with) they're only allowed to be super ironic or try to make it "lol deep" (see that tranny student film about the guy putting on a cat girl mask). It's so bizarre to me to see concepts that would be a shitty seasonal anime (like a magical girl who wants to be a normal girl) get treated as something new and revolutionary because someone overseas is making it.
My favorite terrible example is this video where he acts like DDLC and class of 08 are totally not kusoge and are actually very original (just ignore Totono and 08 basically being poor man's south park I guess…)
No.11100
>>11096The worst thing is that oelvns that are sincere don’t get popular so the funded groups are less likely to make them because they’ll make more money trying to be subversive and ironic.
>>11097>like a magical girl who wants to be a normal girlThis is unironically the most unoriginal idea out there because it’s actually been done so many times, just not with “traditional” magical girls. Like pretty much every superhero teen or teen with powers has this phase. And making her a magical girl doesn’t somehow make it more original. It’s an overdone concept. Having it be a single arc in her overarching story could be neat, but as the entire concept it’s lame and boring.
No.11111
>>11097>>11096>>11094>>11087As a VN dev myself who wants to use the medium to tell stories, I'd rather kill myself than making any of ideas into streamer bait. If it does, cool, but don't expect me to double down and make more slop to make the youpoops and streaming piles of shit happy. I've pretty accepted my starving artist fate after seeing date everything gets its money back while generally good uses of the medium get forgotten everyday.
>characters feeling too sexually chargedI wouldn't mind if the work established itself as a borderline nukige but it doesn't. Everything feels horny but at the same time oddly safe for a game where you date almost everything. I'm not a huge slow burn person, but people don't jump at any chance to get into people's pants. That's simply unsexy. I love some mild flirting and double innuendos when the scene calls for it but again, that requires understanding people. It's like the writers at Date Everything take what they saw from tumblr, put it in, and that's it.
No.11113
>>11111>Everything feels horny but at the same time oddly safe for a game where you date almost everythingThey scrub the game of anything that could potentially be problematic or anything that could exclude anyone. They water down everything.
>It's like the writers at Date Everything take what they saw from tumblr, put it in, and that's itI don't get the point of the game. It's like a free joke game you would play for an hour if you were bored. I don't want 100 joke routes with ugly characters, give me like 5ish good options you put your heart and soul into. Same with The Office Type and that Dream Daddy game.
The entire idea of an Amare VNs is really dumb. I don't know why these developers are afraid to cater to a specific audience who would otherwise play your game. VNs are supposed to be self-fulfillment anyways.
No.11115
>>11113A case could be made for bisexuals but amare games also shove in gendie shit and far too many scope creeps for my liking. At least each guy has time to shine in a otome. The average amare scrambles around like files over who gets dibs.
I had an idea for a VN where you romance both male and female gods but I'm debating if I should just distance myself from the words "VN" and "amare" for my own sanity. I don't want these people whining about the characters being too hot or anime when they got the thing to begin with. No.11116
>>11113Funnily enough, "amare" became a thing because otome fans become raging autists at the mere idea of their preferred LI being with a guy.
No.11117
>>11113I’m confused, is amare not just joseimuke?
No.11119
>>11117Isn't 恋愛ゲーム the even broader term for romantic VNs that can apply to all categories? They definitely don't need to make a new term for this. I get that 'dating sim' in English is a specific genre so you can't use that for a plain VN but you could still just say romance VN/game.
No.11120
>>11116>otome fans become raging autists tbh I'm siding with them on this one. It's how I feel about "BL" involving trans men (needs its own special name, like "TBL" or something) so anything but support feels hypocritical.
No.11122
>>11120But the thing is that these guys aren't even bisexual/gay, nonna, a MC with a selectable gender makes each MC effectively an AU of each other.