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 No.1141[View All]

>what is transwashing
Transwashing is when a character is forcefully made into trans, even if they're just gnc, homosexual, or crossdressing. When a character dresses or behaves in a way outside of the gender stereotype associated with their biological sex, oftentimes fandoms (and, even the creators themselves to appear "woke") start percieving them as trans. And, sometimes, even if those characters don't have "any sign of being trans", some people's headcannons becomes too out of control and fall into the gender ideology. This unfortunately happens to real people too.

Post those characters, discuss why they're transwashed, and vent if you want to.
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 No.10018

>>10015
>a TIF
i thought he only had a fascination with mtfs, didn't know he liked aidens too lmao.
>he wanted Yusuke to look rude
he is a yanki that is willing to fight anyone regardless of gender and age so you're probably right. during that scene kuwabara tried to stop him from fighting because muh honorable men don't hit women so he wasn't portrayed that positively.
>found this arc very tasteless
i have no thoughts on alluka, as soon as it was revealed that the zoldyck sister was actually a man i ignored him completely. the zoldyck family are all mentally ill in some way, the fact that they have a tranny among them is not that surprising.
the one plus of togashi's obsession with trannies is that it bleeds into acceptance of homos so we get shit like hisoillu being married.

 No.10019

>>10013
>>10015
Considering some of the gender stuff in Sailor moon I guess he and Naoko Takeuchi have more in common than I thought.

 No.10023

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>>10015
Pretty sure that character is meant to have swyers syndrome or something so it's not really a trans thing

 No.10029

>>10023
I didn't read the manga, I remember the arc from the anime instead. Maybe that scene was a bit different or it's been so long I forgot some details, instead of talking about existing illnesses I remember the characters talking about how she was a woman who is a man deep down and that's why she keeps falling in love with other girls her age and keeps getting rejected and bullied for it. It's scifi so it's not like she transitioned in a realistic way, she becomes an actual guy at the end and starts dating some dangerous alien girl who threatens to destroy earth if she doesn't find a husband during her visit.

 No.10030

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I'm so sick of extremely popular trans headcanons like Dipper. It's so obvious that FtMs aren't attracted to vagina either but they make a character their self-insert or do it to make themselves feel better.

 No.10034

>>10030
>It's so obvious that FtMs aren't attracted to vagina either but they make a character their self-insert or do it to make themselves feel better.
I've always wondered about this. Most FTMs are straight women who are attracted to men, I don't know how they can stand seeing vaginas on beautiful boys. If you're attracted to dick, why force yourself to like pussy? I am straight myself and cuntboys disgust me.
If they're all just self-inserting and don't care I wish they would at least self-insert into the seme pounding an uke because that would at least keep the seme's dick on him. Women's sexuality is so controlled by men's demands they can't even imagine themselves as the dominant person in their fantasies. How can you be so pathetic?

 No.10035

>>10034
They're basically just yumes with extra steps.

 No.10036

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i despise the mgs fandom. it is full of genderspecials to the point where i can barely see any art of the guys without tits or ugly scars. seeing ocelot turned into this abomination hurts. i'm not looking forward to the mgs3 remake knowing that the only bosscelot art this fandom will produce will involve cuntboy ocelot. he is the only actual gay man in the games yet they still turn him into a woman.
and don't even get me started on raiden. trannies love him the most, i've seen people make him a tif, a tim and nonbinary all because he's a bishie cyborg. i know moids hated him for being feminine but it doesn't make him a woman.

 No.10037

>>10034
>>10035
This, basically. Literally every single "fujo" FTM I've met in my life has been a hardcore yume who self-inserts into the characters rather than enjoy two characters as a couple with their individual story, thus the need for them to have a pussy. I don't know if it's to make the porn more titillating in the sense that PIV is the only form of sex they can comprehend, or because they want to feel validated as an IRL anime boy by seeing more of them with vaginas, or both. Maybe both.

 No.10038

>>10035
>>10037
Transing characters is so prevalent though. They can't all be yumes. Some of them started out as normal fujos, enjoying two boys fucking without self-insertion and yet they somehow psyoped themselves into liking PIV.
I simply don't understand their logic, if these girls have penis envy and seeing a man with a vagina triggers their dysphoria wouldn't they be more likely to seek out content with dicks only? Maybe ftms are different now but I used to see them crying everytime they were reminded of having a female body. Why did they start to like being female suddenly? Are they just pretending? I thought they wanted to be real men with dicks and flat chests but now they even turn real life men into smoll beans like them.

 No.10039

>>10036
I've liked MGS all my life without ever looking at a fandom at any point (there was a nice blog in 2013 for MGR stuff, back before anything gendie hit it) so this is pretty sad to see. Whenever I think of completely unreasonable gendie headcanons (all of them are) I always imagine people doing it to the most overtly masculine characters to overcompensate. CoD dudes, MGS, Golden Kamuy, etc. I guess it's a reminder they'll truly never look like a man.

 No.10040

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>>10038
>They can't all be yumes
>I simply don't understand their logic
Huge part of the FtM trans community is making posts and art about being FtM as "activism". They are obsessed with normalizing being transgender and spreading their ideology like how Christians make lots of art around their religion. It really can't be overstated how much of a social or community component there is to trans stuff online and how much trans (especially FtM) recruiting comes from fandoms.

They aren't all yumes, but a lot of it is just making themselves or other FtMs feel better. You know how very large women online will draw big characters as well? Same thing. They aren't attracted to it, but FtMs will see and create fanart of transed characters to feel less insecure about being trans.

>I thought they wanted to be real men with dicks and flat chests but now they even turn real life men into smoll beans like them.

There is no consistent logic. The trutrans / truscum mentality of "my body is female and needs to be corrected to my true gender soul" is unpopular now kek. These are just mentally ill women who hate being (straight) women so much that they would mutilate themselves to escape it.

 No.10041

>>10040
>trans (especially FtM) recruiting comes from fandoms
Yeah, I feel for kids today. When you see everyone around you changing their pronouns and making art of your favorite character wearing a binder you can't help but fall for peer pressure.
>FtMs will see and create fanart of transed characters to feel less insecure about being trans.
Art being valued only for entertainment and escapism helped foster this culture and now we all must pretend to like ugly men with boobs to not hurt their feelings.
>"my body is female and needs to be corrected to my true gender soul" is unpopular now
I used to see "You can't be trans if you don't have gender dysphoria" all over tumblr years ago, was not aware it has fallen out of fashion. I guess people that wanted to be a part of the special kids club but did not fit the criteria still wanted to be included. That would explain all the abundance of cuntboy art.

 No.10044

>>10041
>I used to see "You can't be trans if you don't have gender dysphoria" all over tumblr years ago, was not aware it has fallen out of fashion.
Logic itself has fallen out of fashion. I'll see someone unironically claim to be a "Nonbinary he/him lesbian" and I'm supposed to pretend like that makes any sort of sense. Words don't mean things anymore.

 No.10045

>>10044
I can understand a confused butch calling herself a he/him lesbian but all these "nonbinary women" just want to escape womanhood but still feel close to their sex due to lived experiences. They want to sit on both chairs.

 No.10203

Gendies are having a normal one over Mizuki again

 No.10204

>>10203
Could you elaborate? I don't personally know a mizuki that would be relevant here.

 No.10205

>>10204
NTA but he’s a trap from project sekai, the vocaloid mobile game

 No.10206

>>10204
NTA either but the character is technically still ambiguous which is why they're 1other on booru sites, but the fact that they look like a girl but are listed as "?" gives only one logical outcome. It will be funny if they are bio male and not just non-binary since the character is popular in yuri circles.

 No.10223

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>>10205
>>10206
Ok yeah I've never been into vocaloid so I had no idea. Cute character. I'm into otokonoko characters so if I was into this fandom I'd steer clear of western fans and see if any JP artists drew this character with a dick.

 No.10224

>>10223
he's a lil faggot with cock n balls

 No.10230

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>>10206
He is a dude, it's basically confirmed in the middle school flashbacks where he's wearing a male uniform. Mizuki has a gay ship too but it's not as popular.

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happens to every short male character these days

 No.10415

>>10414
Maybe this would happen less if more anime dudes were realistic average asian guy height instead of being in the model range. The few average ones end up standing out.

 No.10416

>>10415
tbf most anime guys are conically short, I think goku is is like 5'7

 No.10421

>>10414
Please someone save the manlets from this madness

 No.10422

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>>10414
I'm know they do this but I'm still malding seeing best boy Apollo in this thread. He's just shota-coded but even 2000s games are not safe. REEEEEEE!

 No.10423

>>10422
just curious, what exactly do you think makes him shota-coded? just his height or his face or personality, havent played apollo justice yet but he doent look shota to me

 No.10428

>>10414
I've never been that hardcore into Klapollo but I remember the first time I saw a good artist on twitter who then jumpscared me with TIFpollo so I guess I shouldn't be surprised there's more of them out there.

 No.10431

>>10414
I feel like we need to do a bingo for characters that get turned into TIFs or TIMs (if there isn't one already) cuz there's always a pattern:
>manlet
>crossdressed like once
>somewhat kinda feminine
>anger issues
>androgynous
Doesn't apply to every character mind you but they always go for stereotypes.

 No.10432

>>10423
ntayrt but i can kinda see where the other nonna is coming from. obviously you don’t get this much in the western fandom but i can see how apollo could come off as shota-adjacent specifically in the context of phoenix/apollo (and maybe klapollo if you’re depicting klavier in a certain way). like phoenix is basically a disheveled ojiisan in that game so i can see the vision.

 No.10433

Shota-coded or shota-adjacent adults are absolutely not a thing.

>>10431
I've seen Vash the Stampede and Dante from DMC get transified and they don't exactly match any of those criteria tbf

Then again its something I avoid entirely.

 No.10434

>>10431
The fact that these traits match a lot of my favorite character fucking pains me.

>>10433
>I've seen Vash the Stampede and Dante from DMC get transified and they don't exactly match any of those criteria tbf
I'm not the biggest Trigun fan, but I followed people at the time that were watching Stampede and from what I understand it's because he is a plant alien and they really wanted his brother to impregnate him? Don't know why we couldn't just do good ol' mpreg though. Someone with more understanding of the series can maybe enlighten us further.

 No.10436

>>10433
>I've seen Vash the Stampede and Dante from DMC get transified and they don't exactly match any of those criteria tbf
It's not a definite list, it's just what came first to my head. I know Viktor from Arcane doesn't follow that criteria and also gets trooned out a lot, but that has something to do with his bodily modification arc. I haven't played DMC nor watched Trigun yet but there must be a cliché that attracts TIFs

 No.10437

>>10434
>>10433
>>10436
The common denominator could be that these characters aren't human? I've seen Raiden from Metal Gear get this treatment too because he's a cyborg. I guess in their brain non-human equals no dick, only vagina. Kinda demeaning now that I think about it…

 No.10438

>>10437
Its demeaning and straight up lazy. A male character meant to be an eldritch abomination beyond the understanding of humans, horrors beyond comprehension and all you can imagine is a VAGINA?

 No.10439

>>10434
It's because Stampede Knives identifies Vash's ability as opening a portal to the source of plant energy, visibly a big slit he enters (Japan memed it saying his tits emerge from the portal before his face), through which he wants to connect a nucleus to the female plants via penetrative cords as he impregnates them, in the belief that doing this will spawn offspring "with souls" and make new independents like him and Vash. (The plants can become pregnant and produce new plants asexually, but only make the same type that only live inside bulbs.) During his process he penetrates Vash the same as the females he impregnates. People take their two different abilities to mean Knives in a male plant and Vash is a female. I'm on Team Cloaca of the tight hole with surprise functions agenda because why wouldn't you give aliens tentacles to grab people's hips and pull them in.

 No.10442

>>10431
>>10433
>>10434
>>10436
Anon was missing the most important part of the criteria which is "non-human".
Dante is a demon, Vash is a plant alien thing, Viktor transformed into a cyber god, Raiden is a cyborg who unironically is basically the equivalent of a brain in a jar.
The more "detached" they are from a regular standard human, the transfication increases.
It's not an exclusive thing though, you'll see perfectly normal 'cis' men get transfied but it's definitely more common if they aren't straightfowardly human.

 No.10444

>>10442
I am forever grateful that my favorite Superman ship peaked in 2002. All the alien biology fanfics of that time were creative and gave Clark a tentacle dick.

 No.10445

>>10431
Some others I've noticed (these aren't referring to the same character, just patterns I've noticed among different sets of characters):
>mommy/daddy issues
>emotionally stunted or mentally ill in some way
>has some sort of "edgy" element while still being an okay person otherwise
>gets shipped with or has bait with a more dominant or aggressive character
>commonly headcanoned as autistic by the fandom

 No.10446

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>>10431
>short, softboi, twinky
>dorky / shy / non-threatening
>transhumanist themes (alien, robot, monster, etc)
>teenager with self-esteem issues
>character with ironic swaggy subversive energy like how TIFs say Jack Black has transmasc swag

 No.10447

>>10431
>>10445
>>10446
Anyone care to add more to the list so that it can include literally any single character in any media?

 No.10448

>>10442
This is definitely the main aspect I've observed as well. Yes, it'll happen to other characters, but with the non-human element it turns into a fucking plague. 100% increase if the character is most commonly designated as the bottom, but that goes without saying.

I tend to like these sorts of characters, so alien genitalia, or out-there body horror stuff for nullo genitals scratch an itch for me that's already rare… but nope!! Yes, the man-turned-eldritch-horror was actually a TIF and keeps the vagina and births tons of babies xdd!!! Perfect. Just perfect. Yes, I'm salty.

 No.10449

>>10446
They probably just relate because of the fat part, no need for the rest of the essay. The standard ftm bodytype is chubby and pear-shaped and this gets applied to ftm art, I remember Karkat from Homestuck being drawn like this a lot.

 No.10450

>>10446
I like how that tumblr person scoffs at the 'Gender essentialists' for saying there's only one way to be a man. Meanwhile the moment a guy on the internet tries to be nonconforming he'll get flooded with pressure from gendies to transition cause you gotta crack that egg and if he gives in people will say "Yeah it was so obvious, we all saw it coming".

 No.10451

>>10446
lmao I'm sorry but if I ever transition the first thing I would be doing would be taking advantage of the energy boost of testosterone and go wild building my muscled physique. Become that flamboyant jock I've always wanted to be.

 No.10452

>>10451
Be a gym fujo without T and live out your wildest dreams. Read yaoi while on the treadmill and between reps

 No.10453

>>10452
No, Ive legit wanted to be a boy since decades ago. It is what it is, but…its just different.

 No.10454

>>10447
Feel free to add the patterns you've noticed with whatever characters you've seen.

 No.10663

Personally, while I find all transwashing very annoying, what I hate the most is when the characters are transed to the opposite gender. Since the first one can be somewhat ignored but the second is impossible.

Its gotten to a point where crossdressing characters(who I used to love) have been ruined for me, particularly the male ones because I keep thinking about how if the character was popular in the west they would definitely be called a trans woman. There are two shows that I like which have this trope and I feel bad because I want to see more English speaking content of them but also if it became more popular in the west the trannyfication is inevitable.

I hate it because it reminds me of IRL MTFs who are extremely creepy and annoying, and it makes me feel disgusted by the character sometimes even though they didn't actually do anything wrong. I keep thinking that if they were real they would 90% become a tranny since I've seen so many femboy types IRL who did that shit to the point where it feels inevitable.

Also I see some fans on tumblr and such who HC characters as opposite gender trans with no basis and get mad when people use the canon pronouns on their posts which is just so dumb.



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