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>what is transwashing
Transwashing is when a character is forcefully made into trans, even if they're just gnc, homosexual, or crossdressing. When a character dresses or behaves in a way outside of the gender stereotype associated with their biological sex, oftentimes fandoms (and, even the creators themselves to appear "woke") start percieving them as trans. And, sometimes, even if those characters don't have "any sign of being trans", some people's headcannons becomes too out of control and fall into the gender ideology. This unfortunately happens to real people too.
Post those characters, discuss why they're transwashed, and vent if you want to.
338 posts and 101 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. No.10423
>>10422just curious, what exactly do you think makes him shota-coded? just his height or his face or personality, havent played apollo justice yet but he doent look shota to me
No.10428
>>10414I've never been that hardcore into Klapollo but I remember the first time I saw a good artist on twitter who then jumpscared me with TIFpollo so I guess I shouldn't be surprised there's more of them out there.
No.10431
>>10414I feel like we need to do a bingo for characters that get turned into TIFs or TIMs (if there isn't one already) cuz there's always a pattern:
>manlet >crossdressed like once >somewhat kinda feminine>anger issues >androgynousDoesn't apply to every character mind you but they always go for stereotypes.
No.10432
>>10423ntayrt but i can kinda see where the other nonna is coming from. obviously you don’t get this much in the western fandom but i can see how apollo could come off as shota-adjacent specifically in the context of phoenix/apollo (and maybe klapollo if you’re depicting klavier in a certain way). like phoenix is basically a disheveled ojiisan in that game so i can see the vision.
No.10433
Shota-coded or shota-adjacent adults are absolutely not a thing.
>>10431I've seen Vash the Stampede and Dante from DMC get transified and they don't exactly match any of those criteria tbf
Then again its something I avoid entirely.
No.10434
>>10431The fact that these traits match a lot of my favorite character fucking pains me.
>>10433>I've seen Vash the Stampede and Dante from DMC get transified and they don't exactly match any of those criteria tbfI'm not the biggest Trigun fan, but I followed people at the time that were watching Stampede and from what I understand it's because
he is a plant alien and they really wanted his brother to impregnate him? Don't know why we couldn't just do good ol' mpreg though. Someone with more understanding of the series can maybe enlighten us further.
No.10436
>>10433>I've seen Vash the Stampede and Dante from DMC get transified and they don't exactly match any of those criteria tbfIt's not a definite list, it's just what came first to my head. I know Viktor from Arcane doesn't follow that criteria and also gets trooned out a lot, but that has something to do with his bodily modification arc. I haven't played DMC nor watched Trigun yet but there must be a cliché that attracts TIFs
No.10437
>>10434>>10433>>10436The common denominator could be that these characters aren't human? I've seen Raiden from Metal Gear get this treatment too because he's a cyborg. I guess in their brain non-human equals no dick, only vagina. Kinda demeaning now that I think about it…
No.10438
>>10437Its demeaning and straight up lazy. A male character meant to be an eldritch abomination beyond the understanding of humans, horrors beyond comprehension and all you can imagine is a VAGINA?
No.10439
>>10434It's because Stampede Knives identifies Vash's ability as opening a portal to the source of plant energy, visibly a big slit he enters (Japan memed it saying his tits emerge from the portal before his face), through which he wants to connect a nucleus to the female plants via penetrative cords as he impregnates them, in the belief that doing this will spawn offspring "with souls" and make new independents like him and Vash. (The plants can become pregnant and produce new plants asexually, but only make the same type that only live inside bulbs.) During his process he penetrates Vash the same as the females he impregnates. People take their two different abilities to mean Knives in a male plant and Vash is a female. I'm on Team Cloaca of the tight hole with surprise functions agenda because why wouldn't you give aliens tentacles to grab people's hips and pull them in.
No.10442
>>10431>>10433>>10434>>10436Anon was missing the most important part of the criteria which is "non-human".
Dante is a demon, Vash is a plant alien thing, Viktor transformed into a cyber god, Raiden is a cyborg
who unironically is basically the equivalent of a brain in a jar.
The more "detached" they are from a regular standard human, the transfication increases.
It's not an exclusive thing though, you'll see perfectly normal 'cis' men get transfied but it's definitely more common if they aren't straightfowardly human.
No.10444
>>10442I am forever grateful that my favorite Superman ship peaked in 2002. All the alien biology fanfics of that time were creative and gave Clark a tentacle dick.
No.10445
>>10431Some others I've noticed (these aren't referring to the same character, just patterns I've noticed among different sets of characters):
>mommy/daddy issues>emotionally stunted or mentally ill in some way>has some sort of "edgy" element while still being an okay person otherwise>gets shipped with or has bait with a more dominant or aggressive character>commonly headcanoned as autistic by the fandom No.10447
>>10431>>10445>>10446Anyone care to add more to the list so that it can include literally any single character in any media?
No.10448
>>10442This is definitely the main aspect I've observed as well. Yes, it'll happen to other characters, but with the non-human element it turns into a fucking plague. 100% increase if the character is most commonly designated as the bottom, but that goes without saying.
I tend to like these sorts of characters, so alien genitalia, or out-there body horror stuff for nullo genitals scratch an itch for me that's already rare… but nope!! Yes, the man-turned-eldritch-horror was actually a TIF and keeps the vagina and births tons of babies xdd!!! Perfect. Just perfect. Yes, I'm salty.
No.10449
>>10446They probably just relate because of the fat part, no need for the rest of the essay. The standard ftm bodytype is chubby and pear-shaped and this gets applied to ftm art, I remember Karkat from Homestuck being drawn like this a lot.
No.10450
>>10446I like how that tumblr person scoffs at the 'Gender essentialists' for saying there's only one way to be a man. Meanwhile the moment a guy on the internet tries to be nonconforming he'll get flooded with pressure from gendies to transition cause you gotta crack that egg and if he gives in people will say "Yeah it was so obvious, we all saw it coming".
No.10451
>>10446lmao I'm sorry but if I ever transition the first thing I would be doing would be taking advantage of the energy boost of testosterone and go wild building my muscled physique. Become that flamboyant jock I've always wanted to be.
No.10452
>>10451Be a gym fujo without T and live out your wildest dreams. Read yaoi while on the treadmill and between reps
No.10453
>>10452No, Ive legit wanted to be a boy since decades ago. It is what it is, but…its just different.
No.10454
>>10447Feel free to add the patterns you've noticed with whatever characters you've seen.
No.10663
Personally, while I find all transwashing very annoying, what I hate the most is when the characters are transed to the opposite gender. Since the first one can be somewhat ignored but the second is impossible.
Its gotten to a point where crossdressing characters(who I used to love) have been ruined for me, particularly the male ones because I keep thinking about how if the character was popular in the west they would definitely be called a trans woman. There are two shows that I like which have this trope and I feel bad because I want to see more English speaking content of them but also if it became more popular in the west the trannyfication is inevitable.
I hate it because it reminds me of IRL MTFs who are extremely creepy and annoying, and it makes me feel disgusted by the character sometimes even though they didn't actually do anything wrong. I keep thinking that if they were real they would 90% become a tranny since I've seen so many femboy types IRL who did that shit to the point where it feels inevitable.
Also I see some fans on tumblr and such who HC characters as opposite gender trans with no basis and get mad when people use the canon pronouns on their posts which is just so dumb.
No.10724
>>10663I think I know what one of those fandoms you're talking about is, nonny. Would it happen to have ninjas in it?
No.10734
>>10727Nah it isn't Naruto, I don't want to say the fandom cause it's kind of small.
No.10736
>>10734Not Naruto but Nintama is a show with ninjas that has crossdressing as a running gag, and it's pretty much unknown in the West. But I guess even the Japanese fandom for that has a lot of TF art.
No.10744
>>10736There's a small community for it, but I think it's completely obnoxious.
No.10745
>>10663>what I hate the most is when the characters are transed to the opposite gender.Okay but… what does this actually mean… Do you mean when a male character is turned into a TIF? Or a TIM? What the "opposite gender" is for a character turning into a tranny is just a matter of perspective, right?
No.10750
>>10745They mean when people insist a male character has to be called "she" all the time because they wore a dress or act fruity. It's there in the post.
No.10757
>>10750>It's there in the post.Sorry I'm not attuned to tranny """logic."""
No.10877
>>10446jack black is about as masculine as what 99% tifs can get
No.10926
>>10922>is jewish coded lol
No.10928
>>10922>>is jewish coded That's just being female, nonna
No.10930
>>10926>>10928>>10929tifs think that Jewish men are all effeminate and weak (at least before the Palestinian fiasco) and Simon Petrikov being Jewish is a pretty popular hc
No.10932
>>10930I had no idea but I think that's hilarious
No.10933
>>10930Lmao are there any other nationality headcanons going around? Like if Jews are ftm, are Arabs always semes or bisexual or something?
No.10934
>>10930This was seen in rpf where Ben Shapiro is pretty much always the uke in slash fanfic.
>>10933Black guys are almost universally headcanoned as semes. It’s rare to even find oc content where a black guy is an uke unless he’s with another black guy or a moid fetish
like buckbreaking. The same tends to apply to interracial Yuri ships where the darker girl is made more dominant.
No.10936
>>10933>are Arabs always semes or bisexual or something?For some reason when thinking about this question all the characters I could think of were the mandatory exotic love interest from otome games so I have no clue what the answer is. The vaguely middle eastern guy from LKYT is an uke but all the love interests are anyway so this doesn't mean much.
No.10938
>>10930I remember that in the FTM threads, every few days there was some tif naming themselves Asher or Elijah and some outright converted to Judaism. That only stopped a year ago.
No.10939
>>10938Changing religions just for the larp? They're going all in, damn. I wonder what the next "in" FTM type will be. Get a slight tan, dye hair darker, pretend to be an exotic hunk? Or back to the good ole all-American christian boy, fishing and hunting and taking testosterone? I'm so curious
>>10937That actor is quite cute, I recall him from GOT. I haven't seen that movie, but going by the actor's vibe alone he does have uke energy
No.10945
>>10938But why would they do that? Judaism is like super matriarchal and femme it makes no sense. Just be tomboys.
No.10949
>>10945TIFs are typically not traditionally feminine, but they're aren't girls who play sports or have masculine interests. Jewish men (at least in the US and Europe) are seen as nerdy and weak and TIFs are nerdy and weak, so it's a natural fit.
No.10950
>>10949This is why I don't understand those TIFs. If you say you are a man in a female body, why are you identifying as weak men who act no different from women? That's how you can tell its an act from their part for sure.
No.10951
>>10950At least to me it always seems like a complex of wanting to still be as femme as they want, but without attracting any straight male attention. Like, as if growing a beard/removing your chest or just simply slapping a he/him label on your tits out photo is a magic shield that will do that. News flash, as soon as a man can tell you've got a vag, he will treat you differently than he would another man and you can't do shit about it.
No.10956
I think I posted about this recently, but it happened again with a different author where there was untagged vagina on the uke. What kinda factory are these assholes coming from where they don't tag their hetbend in any capacity? It feels like every time I go into my otp's tag with my thousands of excluded tags, there's always a new troonfic that leaks through because they don't tag it. It sucks that they also aren't that popular (especially in the western side, but even in the asian side) so I'm stuck with what occasionally gets published. I know I should just write my own shit, but I still haven't finished the media they're from and I get imposter syndrome any time I try writing anything for something I haven't finished even though I'm sure some of the people writing my otp probably haven't touched the series at all.