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>what is transwashing
Transwashing is when a character is forcefully made into trans, even if they're just gnc, homosexual, or crossdressing. When a character dresses or behaves in a way outside of the gender stereotype associated with their biological sex, oftentimes fandoms (and, even the creators themselves to appear "woke") start percieving them as trans. And, sometimes, even if those characters don't have "any sign of being trans", some people's headcannons becomes too out of control and fall into the gender ideology. This unfortunately happens to real people too.
Post those characters, discuss why they're transwashed, and vent if you want to.
258 posts and 85 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. No.5043
>>5020Trandom is split on whether he's a MtF or FtM. Shockingly and to my great relief, there's basically no Kaworu/FtM Shinji on aO3(there's more of the reverse, which is weird). It's inescapable in most fandoms, but Evangelion isn't MHA/JJK/whatever level popular in western fandom so maybe that's why
>>5016The show had legitimately progressive things to say about how gender roles prevent people from being their true selves and bonding properly(Asuka forcing herself to be a girly girl to attract Kaji when that's not her, Shinji being more comfortable being a passive homebody, Asuka and Shinji clashing when they expect the other to fulfill their gender's typical role). To turn around and say that Shinji is actually just a girl is missing the whole point. These people, I swear
No.5046
>>5043>The show had legitimately progressive things to say about how gender roles prevent people from being their true selves and bonding properlyThat reminds me, I'm genuinely worried that if Persona 4 ever gets a remake they're going to give Naoto the Bridget Guilty gear treatment. That would piss me off so much but in this current political climate you never know.
No.5047
I doubt Atlus would do that because that would mean rewriting her whole arc and they're too lazy for that. And they doubled down with Fullbody.
No.5078
/co/ content has it much worse than animanga, to be honest.
No.5132
>>5131The faux underbust corset look it creates is appealing, but that can also be done with tattoos. Maybe it will evolve into a scarification fetish.
No.5133
>>5131It pretty much is, because people still do the scars even in advanced futuristic or magical settings. It's all about making their headcanon visible in fanart, similar to 'autism headcanons' where people draw a character stimming or give them that chew necklace or whatever. They've got to make their headcanon 100% clear and obvious to everyone in some way or they won't get any asspats.
No.5134
>>5133>>5131My 'favourite' instance I've seen personally is in the final fantasy 14 fandom with Au Ra characters because canonically the race has exaggerated sexual dimorphism between males and females. The males are naturally tall and buff while the females are naturally small and skinny. Yet the TIF Au ra OCs I've seen are always built like the males in every single way except they have the huge tit removal scars and a vagina. I know this is because they just use mods on their male player model but in-universe it implies that somehow the character could change their body enough to grow twice their size but not enough to just get rid of the other female qualities in a world where body-altering magic is canon.
No.5137
>>5134It's also funny when it goes the other way in low technology/historical settings, where you'll have trans 'headcanons' of super buff tall guys and tit surgery, when realistically if you want to make this character trans then they wouldn't have access to HRT, so would still have a female body type, and would be binding their chest (not to mention they wouldn't be sounding like the cis man who voice acted them). They rarely want to engage with the impact it would have on their upbringing due to gender roles either. It makes the 'any character can be trans!! my headcanon is totally valid!!' insisting extra empty.
At the end of the day it just comes down to projection fantasy and/or feminization fetish and it wouldn't even be as annoying if more people admitted it. This is why 'headcanon' is the worst possible term to use.
No.5202
Getting into Sebaciel has been a mixed bag cause while the western twitter fandom has been a great source of Yana Toboso's official art and stuff like old drama CDs I've also noticed that half of them are Fakebois who are obsessed with Mpreg and giving Ciel a vagina. There's gotta be a thing going on like in the third pic of OP's post where these women see a sexually abused teen boy and project onto him.
No.5205
>>5202These woman find a small shota with a vagina hot but they can't admit it.
No.5207
>>5202I honestly don't get how these people just don't see Ciel as a little girl with short hair if they're doing that. It'd be one thing if it was magical assbabies mpreg but mpreg plus cuntboy is literally just reinventing women.
No.5216
>>5202Back when I was a teen right before the first anime we also had mpreg, but Ciel still had a penis that touched his bump and we were all pretty sure that wasn't a baby in there.
>>5207Yeah it's missing a great deal of the point. If it were a demon or shinigami you'd still have some wiggle room for excuses, but this is just rewriting it into not-so-identical twins and making yet another female victim. I'm not reading BL and hoyay for more girl rape victims.
No.6158
Do you guys ever wonder why trans people insist on referring to themselves as trans? I was thinking about some ex friends. Now, when I was a wee lass, I never told anyone I was a girl. And this is the Internet. You can be anything you want to be. If somebody told you they were male or female, you'd never know.
Trans weebs, they always have to let you know. When they could easily just pretend they are anything so long as it isn't obviously made up xir shit. It's just so baffling. Like I have a new fandom friend and I have no idea what they are, it could go either way and I never bothered to ask. I just assume they're female because we talk about yaoi. Idk. Shower thoughts.
No.6159
>>6158It's because the idea of being trans is more interesting than being the gender they wanna become. Aidens for example say they're men but usually draw pregnancy art or impregnation, it's complicated but they wanna seem like a third gender that looks masculine but has feminine biology. Biological men don't represent them because they don't wanna be that, they just wanna be their idea of what a man is and for that the trans label fits like a glove.
Also it can be because trans is a fetish for a lot of modern day trannies, zippertits at this point are a fetish.
I hope what I said made sense lol, it's late and I need to sleep.
No.6161
>>6158For the first part, I used to be the same too that I'd never tell anyone what I was (but that was because back then you'd get a lot more flack over being a girl on the internet) and I'd roll with whatever people said.
I feel like this whole trans thing is done just as a way of decoration to feel unique, specially more so the people who give themselves unrealistic pronouns like it/doll/bun or whatever. Not only is it not a real fucking pronoun, they'll force you to call them fucking bun. And not only will they force you, they'll try to drag that on to reality as well.
Also, I genuinely feel like some people took the self-insertion too far and really convinced themselves they like yaoi because they wanted to be a man deep down and eventually stop talking about yaoi and start talking about their T-shots and being horny.
No.6163
>>6161>I feel like this whole trans thing is done just as a way of decoration to feel unique, specially more so the people who give themselves unrealistic pronouns like it/doll/bun or whatever.I agree. It's the same with those DiD/system people who demand specialised discord bots for their larp and make cringy social media posts like "Omg one of my alters put coffee powder in the bath water!" In the past these people would just be goth/scene/emo.
No.6169
>>6158Even when they don't, you can always tell because the vast majority of cis men don't put 'he/him' in their bios. Unless it's one of those discords where they make you choose a pronouns role but it's usually optional in the ones I've been in.
No.6240
>>6158This reminds me of how I am/was in fandoms where almost everybody else called themselves trans and each of them knew they were women and just played the he/them game, but then it turned out that I was the one user and artist most assumed to be a dude. I never corrected them, by the way. Not because I identified as dude but because I have a "0 private info" policy on places that aren't anonymous. No age other than clarifying I am an adult and no gender etc. So guess they still assume I am a dude, probably because I am rather silent and serious, not sure.
I mention it because how odd it is and it matches to the phenomenon you describe. You would assume that if a woman considered herself a dude she would just.. well, call herself a dude. Not "trans". Dude. And maybe not constantly post photos of herself wearing pink skirts and showing tits. I never really understood that mindset.
>>6159 has a good point here. It's more like "trans" was a third gender to them, not the opposite one. That would also explain why they are having an issue with people saying there are only two genders. Something that a trans-person shouldn't be mad about. The very concept of transsexuality demands that there are only two genders. You need an opposite gender to be "trans", technically.
Anyway these complexities are part of the reason for why I never talk about gender stuff outside of FC/4chan. It's hard to me to understand what they are even about and to know how to avoid sandtraps. I just want to draw and post about my favorite 2D men in peace.
No.6241
>>6240>I just want to draw and post about my favorite 2D men in peace.Amen. Unfortunately, personally I recently got a job where I am in direct contact with many trannies so I can never turn my brain off about it and just be like "whatever I guess."
I'd say leave them alone if they weren't such a blight on irl life and then my online life too.
No.6342
>>6339no no they're right, all mtf trannies want to do is become 'lesbians' to hit on women they couldn't get as men so it's actually a perfectly fitting representation of trannies kek
No.6344
>>6339Smh I dread what this gendie thinks of Chihiro and Korekiyo
No.7013
>>7012This was drawn by an actual lesbian, a freaking lesbian, using troon logic
No.7014
>>7013I mean, to give them the benefit of the doubt they might just like the idea of the default state being Ranma-chan. As in switching and never going back. But yeah canon-wise he is clearly male and anyone who says otherwise hasn't read it.
Gender-swap stuff is always so weird because the author is playing with weird ambiguous stuff. I used to like it way back when because I saw a lot of it as being yaoi-adjacent. "Oh he's attracted to me but only as a girl, but I'm not gay!" sort of things. I can't enjoy it anymore because it toes to close to IRL gross men for me to enjoy and I'd rather just read trap-shit for that kind of weird relationship blurring since at least the character is physically male and they can't pretend he's secretly a woman.
No.7017
>>7013It's a handmaiden obviously, a yume one at that, because Akane x Ranma was THE yume ship back in the day.
To be honest as an oldfag this fandom has always been kind of crazy, like it literally had countless ship wars since the 90s. If you were a girl who liked any other ship that wasn’t the main yumecope ship you were basically isolated. Even the classical rival bl ship, ranma x ryoga, didnt get much traction unfortunately
No.7429
viktor from arcane. impossible to find any nsfw fanart of him were they kept his dick
No.7430
>>7429I rarely check Twitter for Arcane fanart unless it's from an Asian artist because of this. They ruined my boy.
No.7431
>>7429I've never watched Arcane and I don't think I ever will, but I know a TIF irl who goes by Victor, wonder if she got that name for that character? What even makes Viktor from League of Legends so interesting to TIFs?
No.7432
>>7431I googled him and he looks like prime 2010 Sherlock fandom era tumblr bait. Other than that not sure.
No.7433
>>7431They see a skinny sickly moid and go into projection overdrive.
No.7434
>>7431Aside from the twink build he's paired up with a beefy "straight" guy so it's prime yaoibait. Also has a transhumanist/body modification-related storyline which I can see them easily projecting into.
No.7435
>>7431> What even makes Viktor from League of Legends so interesting to TIFs?He gives himself a robotic body so quite literally everything that is non-human/doll-like/robot/alien/etc is now forever associated with trannism for some reason
like this one anon in a different thread that pointed out how aidens are seeing Hikaru ga Shinda natsu as a trans story, purely because Hikaru is a fucking alien
No.7436
>>7435Man, this is reminding me of that retarded trope of making any character or location that is meant to be nonhuman or eldritch into either having a vagina or being in the shape of one.
If the only type of crazy weird alien genitals you can think of is a normal vagina then it says a lot of shit about you.
No.7443
>>7435If he has a robot body shouldn't he have ken doll anatomy or robo-dick? Why would he choose to have robo-vagina? Or is all the porn of him pre-robot? I don't go here.
No.7444
I wonder if it's even possible to do western zine for BL pairing without tranny shit at this point
No.7445
>>7444If it's SFW yes, or at least none of the zines I participated in had anything visibly trans in them.
If it's NSFW though it's getting problematic.
I think that one day we should make a FC zine.
No.7446
>>7444Probably only if you make it entirely yourself or keep it to you and your friends.
No.7447
>>7443Canonically he has no genitals but in the absence of a dick trannies are obviously going to choose a vagina. The trans headcanon applies even before the body change stuff anyway.
No.7449
>>7447Back in MY day the cyborgfuckers mostly did wireplay, or other more interesting shit, there was some robo pussy but not a ridiculous amount and it was usually a fetish thing without the character being trans.
No.7450
>>7443Arcane made this more exploitable in that regard. The original game Viktor modified himself and became a robotized monster, so he might have given himself a laser penis that blasts people's heads off because he could and fuck you I won't be weak. The Viktor in Arcane however is some mythical eldritch entity who has taken the power of an unknowable force in the no nipples galaxy wallpaper dimension, so what happened to his body when he stepped free of the goo cuboid is unlikely to be his choice and more the will of the arcane adhering to the base structure of a human form. The arcane doesn't know what to do with a penis or vagina, it transforms almost everyone into the same genderless robot. Viktor even states that the intent he is giving to the arcane's power is to make everyone connected as one, to create a hivemind with no differences that would spawn conflict.
So he isn't discovering or choosing to be another gender, he is quite purposefully filing off the notion of gender or sex as something that creates discord among humanity. No rod, no hole, only galaxy wallpapers far as the eye can see.
No.7459
>>7450Sounds like people need to nut up and write that null crotch sex, where are people getting vagina from?
No.7564
>>7459I wish this was a thing because I have a fetish for uncommon porn due to the lack of genitals of one party. It can make porn so much more creative and sometimes rubbing or foreplay and dick/vaginaless orgasm can be hot too, or cable pull, whatever creature it is.
They stole that from us by making everything PiV. Cool male alien? A hot robot? Sorry bro, all no different than generic het sex!
No.7576
>>7564I wouldn't even be mad about all this cuntboy content if it wasn't just an excuse to make everything into PiV. If you are so woke why not turn BOTH guys in a BL ship into cuntboys? But no, of course, because ultimately they want to turn everything into heteronormative PiV. It's so boring.
No.7665
>>6344i have ptsd from 2013ish chihiro gender discourse on tumblr lmao
No.7667
>>7564I agree, I also like to see people get creative with nonhuman sex because it's nice to have variety. Even with regular human male x human male I want to see more non anal stuff, I always like to see some intercrural. I want to write docking for my current ship because it doesn't exist and I think it would be really hot for them.
The older I get as a fujo, the more I want to see less common sex acts because my fanfic suspension of disbelief at guys being able to have so much spontaneous anal is wearing thin. Always wish there was more frotting too, that's also good.
No.7672
>>7667I really like dicks so any sexual act that has a dick as the focal point and not stuffed inside a hole is amazing.
No.7675
>>7667Personally I like entertaining the idea of a guy with a big dick frotting from behind, so there's a bit of intercrural and ass slamming included. Have to pick a couple with a fair size difference though and frankly the logistics are silly porn territory.